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Budget Battle: Republicans Prepare For Fight With Democrats, Obama

By ANDREW TAYLOR 03/17/12 07:07 PM ET AP

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Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., is fashioning a sequel to last year's "Path to Prosperity" manifesto that ignited a firestorm over Medicare.

WASHINGTON — After a few months of relative peace on the budget front, Democrats and Republicans are readying for a party-defining, election-year fight over trillion dollar-plus deficits and what to do about them.

The focus in the week ahead will be on the conservative-dominated House, where the Budget Committee chairman, Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., is fashioning a sequel to last year's "Path to Prosperity" manifesto that ignited a firestorm over Medicare.

The upcoming debate gives Republicans a chance to show how they would tackle out-of-control budget deficits and rein in the cost and scope of government. Those are top issues for the conservative supporters counted on by Republicans to turn out in large numbers in the fall to maintain the GOP's control of the House.

President Barack Obama played it safe when he released his spending blueprint last month for the budget year that begins Oct. 1. It calls for tax increases on wealthier earners and modest spending curbs. But it would not address the spiraling costs of Medicare and Medicaid, the health care plan for the poor and disabled.

Last year's GOP measure proposed replacing Medicare fee-for-service payments to doctors and hospitals with a voucher-like program in which the government would subsidize purchases of health insurance on the private market.

Democrats said the subsidies would not keep up with inflation in medical costs and would shift costs to older people, and they accused Republicans of plotting to "end Medicare as we know it." The uproar was an important factor in a special election in which Democrats seized a longstanding GOP-held House seat in upstate New York. Republicans showed less enthusiasm for the plan after that.

Ryan has since come out with a less stringent version of the measure, in concert with Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., that would keep the traditional Medicare "fee for service" program as an option along with private insurance plans. It features more realistic inflation increases, and less resulting savings for the government, than last year's measure.

"This coming debt crisis is the most predictable crisis we've ever had in this country," Ryan said in a video statement. "This is why we're acting. This is why we're leading. This is why we're proposing – and passing out of the House – a budget to fix this problem: So we can save our country for ourselves and our children's future."

Ryan has yet to disclose the specifics of his plan. But the committee announced Saturday that Ryan would introduce the proposal Tuesday; that would allow his committee to sign off on it by the end of the week.

Pressure from conservative lawmakers has prompted GOP leaders and Ryan to reopen last summer's budget pact and impose further cuts on domestic agencies such as the departments of Education, Energy and Housing and Urban Development.

Last year's deal with Obama set a $1.047 trillion cap on the annual operating budgets of Cabinet departments and other agencies for the upcoming 2013 budget year.

GOP aides say Republican leaders want to cut that figure by $19 billion, or almost 2 percent, leading to protests from Democrats that Republicans are going back on the deal. The move would make it more difficult to pass follow-up spending bills setting agency budgets for new fiscal year.

Tea party lawmakers on the House Budget Committee, such as Rep. Mick Mulvaney, R-S.C., have pressed for even deeper cuts, leading to a push-and-pull match with the more pragmatic Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee.

The annual budget debate is conducted under arcane rules. The main budget document, called a budget resolution, is a nonbinding measure that sets the parameters for follow-up legislation on spending and taxes. Even though its broader goals usually are not put into place, it is viewed as a statement of party principles.

Democrats controlling the Senate do not want a budget debate. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has said he will instead rely on language he inserted in a budget pact last year that allows for floor action on the annual spending bills without a budget resolution.

By avoiding a budget debate, Reid protects several vulnerable incumbent Democrats from politically dangerous votes.

Despite the GOP proposal's sharp cuts to agency budgets and Medicaid, and its call to repeal Obama's health care law, it is certain to leave substantial annual deficits over the next decade. That's how bleak the nation's underlying financial picture is.

Democrats and independent budget expert are sure to cite the resulting deficits as proof that new tax revenues are needed as part of any comprehensive answer to the fiscal crisis.

GOP aides, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss party deliberations, say the measure may include special instructions to other House committees to scrub the programs under their jurisdiction for savings that could be used to forestall about $100 billion in across-the-board spending cuts set to take effect in January.

Those cuts, including $50 billion in defense spending, are punishment for the failure of last year's supercommittee to come up with a new package of $1.2 trillion in deficit cuts over the next decade as part of the deal to let the government keep borrowing.

The GOP plan would bundle the new cuts from various committees and try to pass them as early as this spring. They might include various proposals discussed by the supercommittee and earlier spending cuts that the House considered as a way to pay for a Social Security tax cut without adding to the government's long-term debt.

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03:19 AM on 03/20/2012
Boy I dont think anyone here has done real research into how bad the debt is this is one of those problem you can just say oops do over. feel sorry for people who do a least try to do their own research stop being controlled by D's And R's. just with a little education you will find they are all lying to you the new peasant class.
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eilish
Life ain't like a box of chocolates
02:01 PM on 03/19/2012
Do these yahoos not realize that after attacking women, the usual attack on Medicare and Social Security are going to get them elected? Are they really that danged dumb? Or are the American people dumb enough to fall for this garbage?

I like to think not.
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emmanuel kalu
information is knowledge, knowledge in power
11:03 AM on 03/19/2012
This is yet another useless plan by the republicans and baggers to try to cover up their lack of any plan on the economy or budget. They are trying to go back on a deal, trying to avoid the necessary cuts to defense spending and they are looking for more ways to slow this recovering economy down. There is no plan by the republicans but to destroy the economy for political gain, divided and destroy the country for yet more political gain. republicans have shown they don't know how to govern, have the desire or the ability to get our debt and deficit in control. it is time we the people take this into our hands, vote all republicans out and let the progressive grow the economy, which would help reduce our deficits. let the progress help make the cuts and tax increases necessary to move us toward a balance budget and reducing our debt.
10:47 AM on 03/19/2012
1. Cut the massive defense spending to somethign more resonable.
2. Eliminate the SS payroll tax ceiling and apply SS and Medicare taxes to all income.
3. Slightly raise taxes on the wealthiest.

Budget problem solved.
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rvrrat69
Theory vs. Reality - Who ya bettin' on?
10:54 AM on 03/19/2012
99% of Americans benefited - 1% will have bruised egos and get all pouty - otherwise no damage.
10:27 PM on 03/19/2012
You risk angering the "job creators". They'll close all the factories and move their money overseas. We'll be reduced to fighting over jobs at McDonalds and Taco Bell. Then we'll be sorry for asking the wealtiest to pay their fair share.
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eilish
Life ain't like a box of chocolates
02:02 PM on 03/19/2012
So simple and yet I think you would see that but for Republican grandstanding and obstruction.
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
10:44 AM on 03/19/2012
"Tea party lawmakers on the House Budget Committee, such as Rep. Mick Mulvaney, R-S.C., have pressed for even deeper cuts,.."

I watched the Tea Party ralleys in 09 and what I remember was that the median age of the protestors must have been late 50s easy if not older. I wonder what they think about the Medicare plan Ryan is presenting? Are they simply brain dead Republican voters who haven't realized what that means to them or are they just mean spirited people who like the idea of screwing othere believing that it somehow won't impact them? Either way they are fringe extremists that don't have the backing of 80% of the country.

You have to love the fact that the Republicans are so tone deaf they think this is a good issue to bring up in an election year.
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eilish
Life ain't like a box of chocolates
02:05 PM on 03/19/2012
In AZ the old people wearing fishing hats dangling teabags didn't seem very well informed or educated. Kept screaming stuff about Obama leaving his hands off their Medicare - that was in '08 when it had never come up except in the avid minds of the Koch brothers. They simply do NOT listen, and when they open their mouths the most ignorant parroting occurs: "Obama's a Muslim" was a fav. Got my car dented by their signs after I moved from CO and thoughtlessly forgot to remove my sticker....
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
02:09 PM on 03/19/2012
I feel for you. I have visited Arizona several times and have to remember to keep my mouth shut so I'm not accused of being antiAmerican. It is a strange state no doubt.
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Joey Blau
sharp and factual analysis
10:20 AM on 03/19/2012
Rep. Paul Ryan is going to reneg on the deal and try and cut everything but defense.

Let's remember that Social Security has never contributed one cent to the debt. It has always ran a surplus, and now it will start to COLLECT BACK the loans it gave to the Federal Budget.

This is normal and taxes will need to be increased (best on capital gains and estates) and defense spending needs to be cut. Too bad we didn't use the budget surpluses to pay down debt instead of giving tax cuts to millionares.. oh well... now we will need to have even more debt.
10:03 AM on 03/19/2012
Have you ever noticed how the republicans never talk about cutting one of the biggest give away programs of all the Dept of Agriculture. Let's cut all the New Deal farm welfare programs. Get rid of ethanol subsides and 10% mandates for fuel and allow Brazil to import ethanol.
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Joey Blau
sharp and factual analysis
10:23 AM on 03/19/2012
of course corn ethanol is the worst.. but sugar cane ethanol exported from Brazil is not much better. We need bio-diesel from geneticly modified algae.

we can use the nitrogen rich water from farm run-off to grow vats of algae and bacteria. also, the warm water given off by power plants would be useful. This absorbs more CO2 and can be designed to run as a continuous process, rather than the plant, havest, ferment cycle of ethanol.
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rvrrat69
Theory vs. Reality - Who ya bettin' on?
11:12 AM on 03/19/2012
Algae has the most potential at this point. With a combination of advances in propagation(vats have been replaced by a continuous, circulating system), algae "potency", CO2 enrichment, and refinement techniques, this has REAL potential.
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eilish
Life ain't like a box of chocolates
02:07 PM on 03/19/2012
Thanks! I don't understand this stuff so now I'm going to look it up and find out.
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AJ in ATL
34 years of being a Liberal and proud of it!!!
09:58 AM on 03/19/2012
Why am I not the least suprised by these Republicans breaking their word and going down this path again....? I hope that if we do travel down this path again Obama instead of caving to Republican demands holds a line in the sand as it would be an election year disaster for the GOP in bringing a manufactured crisis up now.
09:50 AM on 03/19/2012
I started reading comments and the first one were my sentaments exactly. Your gonna go away anyway ryan, so why not pitch a fit?
09:25 AM on 03/19/2012
paul's got nothing to lose- he's going down in November! he's looking for a job at a right wing think tank.
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jtwalk45
09:08 AM on 03/19/2012
we must vote these nuts out of office,they have one plan "cut taxes on the rich" =trickle down economics.did not work then and still won't work now.
Obama/Biden 2012 is a must
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WOODSTOCKER60
EYESIGHT ISSUES.I TYPE IN CAPS....HAVE A NICE DAY!
08:30 AM on 03/19/2012
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19105.htm

HEY RYAN...YOU CANT FOOL US AGAIN!

"ANOTHER ACT OF TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL BE YOUR FINAL SWAN SONG!"
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OLEGAR
When you want to fool the world, tell the truth
09:40 AM on 03/19/2012
I CAN READ "ALL CAPS"!
08:28 AM on 03/19/2012
AS a person who has always voted rep. having 2nd thoughts as i am a sr. who has children & grands. if they wk their magic and hurt medicare s.s. and yes even medicaid they lose me and the boat i,m in is getting full . pay bk what has been taken from s.s. no more bail outs , jobs in u.s, no more overseas fine these companies that go overseas, no more aid other countries period, no more assist illegal aliens period, no more free rides cars, jets need a vac. pay your own way we do {{ if we could afford one }}} no more wars we have lost to many of our young as it is.congress could take a pay cut , and have the same ins. as we do yeah right.
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rvrrat69
Theory vs. Reality - Who ya bettin' on?
09:28 AM on 03/19/2012
F & F for a logical Republican.
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eilish
Life ain't like a box of chocolates
02:10 PM on 03/19/2012
I've lived in AZ the past 30 years and the people there are tone deaf when Republicans constantly spout cuts to Medicare and Social Security. Of course, the Koch brothers are paying a lot of money for the whispers that Dems are trying to destroy both. The Democratic Party, the one that advocates programs for the poor and slightly higher taxes for the super-rich who want to cut paying their firms' employees any raises or benefits.
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davegstein
07:46 AM on 03/19/2012
So Ryan is going to offer up another bait and switch on Medicare? Good.Americans have short memories.So,as we head full speed towards November,another reminder of why the GOP is so dangerous is a good thing...
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WOODSTOCKER60
EYESIGHT ISSUES.I TYPE IN CAPS....HAVE A NICE DAY!
08:31 AM on 03/19/2012
WORD IS HE WAS A USED CAR SALESMAN BEFORE BECOMING A THUG FOR THE KOCH BROTHERS........
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Lawyer13
retired Lawyer, General and Psychiatric Nurse, wit
07:42 AM on 03/19/2012
A view from across the pond : The GOP are both politically and morally bankrupt, their behaviour is so opposed to getting things done for the GOOD of your GREAT COUNTRY. All they do is put out HATE and BLAME the President for ever ill that befalls you.
Take a close look at what is really happening JOBS UP, Consumer spending UP, the ECONOMY and STOCK MARKET AT HIGHEST LEVEL since 2007, so you see that the President is doing a good job considering what he inherited.

TEAM OBAMA 2012 the ANTIDOTE to ALL T/Republicans !!!
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