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Obama Administration Releasing New Rules To Expand Ability To Hold Citizens' Data

By EILEEN SULLIVAN 03/22/12 09:36 PM ET AP

WASHINGTON — The U.S. intelligence community will now be able to store information about Americans with no ties to terrorism for up to five years under new Obama administration guidelines.

Until now, the National Counterterrorism Center had to immediately destroy information about Americans that was already stored in other government databases when there were no clear ties to terrorism.

Giving the NCTC expanded record-retention authority had been called for by members of Congress who said the intelligence community did not connect strands of intelligence held by multiple agencies leading up to the failed bombing attempt on a Detroit-bound airliner on Christmas 2009.

"Following the failed terrorist attack in December 2009, representatives of the counterterrorism community concluded it is vital for NCTC to be provided with a variety of datasets from various agencies that contain terrorism information," Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said in a statement late Thursday. "The ability to search against these datasets for up to five years on a continuing basis as these updated guidelines permit will enable NCTC to accomplish its mission more practically and effectively."

The new rules replace guidelines issued in 2008 and have privacy advocates concerned about the potential for data-mining information on innocent Americans.

"It is a vast expansion of the government's surveillance authority," Marc Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, said of the five-year retention period.

The government put in strong safeguards at the NCTC for the data that would be collected on U.S. citizens for intelligence purposes, Rotenberg said. These new guidelines undercut the Federal Privacy Act, he said.

"The fact that this data can be retained for five years on U.S. citizens for whom there's no evidence of criminal conduct is very disturbing," Rotenberg said.

"Total Information Awareness appears to be reconstructing itself," Rotenberg said, referring to the Defense Department's post-9/11 data-mining research program that was killed in 2003 because of privacy concerns.

The Washington Post first reported the new rules Thursday.

The Obama administration said the new rules come with strong safeguards for privacy and civil liberties as well. Before the NCTC may obtain data held by another government agency, there is a high-level review to assure that the data "is likely to contain significant terrorism information," Alexander Joel, the civil liberties protection officer at national intelligence directorate, said in a news release Thursday.

The NCTC was created after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks to be the central U.S. organization to analyze and integrate intelligence regarding terrorism.

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06:52 PM on 04/05/2012
Wow, what a coincidence, a bill that was signed but "didn't agree with" followed by collection of data on anyone. Thats weird. Ot would almost be like saying one thing to appeal to everyone, but doing something else. You can not just say you're suspending habeus, you have to say your targeting outlaws for your protection. Or better still, just hide it in a stack as a rider.
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trekie70
Lifelong bibliophile and political junkie
10:24 AM on 03/24/2012
This is very troubling to me. I applaud the goal but condemn the method by which the Administration wants to achieve it. I see no reason to store my information if I have not demonstrated that I'm a threat and the same is true for anyone else.
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EdCorner
Now what - more of the same...
11:09 PM on 03/23/2012
Amazing, he's all for keeping private data on American citizens for up to 5 years but says nothing about the SEC destroying records less than 2 years old. The SEC is doing that so there are no appearances of repeat offenders or a record going back years of similar offenses. The man is not doing his job and neither is his justice department. What is he so concerned about keeping private citizens records for 5 years when egregarious crimes are going on right behind his back ??!!

Obamathebanksterinchief. Gotta go in 2012
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
05:56 AM on 03/26/2012
Ed,

I would completely agree with you regarding Obama's poor handling of the Dept of Justice. But do you think that any of the leading GOP contenders would do a better job? Isn't the problem that moneyed-interests who don't want the SEC to effectively police the financial markets AND SEC bureaucrats who don't want to be accountable for doing their jobs implicit collude to stunt the regulatory intent--even if they have it--or the two leading political parties?

TTG
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EdCorner
Now what - more of the same...
12:26 PM on 03/26/2012
Yes, Ron Paul is all for enforcing the rules of contracts and against the too big to fails and the hold they have on our government. There would be prosecutions and the SEC would be held accountable. Mitt, Rick and Newt, not so much and would just be another O b a m a as far as justice enforcement imo.
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09:31 PM on 03/23/2012
I think this is good. They can start with any frist name that starts with Al.
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MacTheCat
Those Clouds You See Aren't really clouds at all
08:13 PM on 03/23/2012
Collecting data on anyone not accused of a crime is Unconstitutional.

Period!
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04:21 PM on 03/23/2012
Oh, they probably just want to do something harmless like following up on the descendants of the people they injected with plutonium 50 years ago.
bullthull
Enemy of all that is stupid
02:53 PM on 03/23/2012
Flipping through channels I watched a documentray on american jihadists, it was interesting but was 20 minutes in, so I when I saw it coming on again I watched it from the beginning and then told my wife about so she watched it to .
So under DFA if they cart me away will the report be " he repeatedly watched terrorist programming "
You think you are "normal" and "safe"
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Marxsuxd
Define Fundamental Transformation of the US
03:02 PM on 03/23/2012
Not only that, you recruited!
bullthull
Enemy of all that is stupid
03:07 PM on 03/23/2012
Good point ! Sh** I think my son watched it too,
bullthull
Enemy of all that is stupid
02:46 PM on 03/23/2012
JD Edgar still running around -- I have a file on you !
Orwell was a visionary
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Unlisted2u
...but not polls, pols or 3rd party affiliates.
12:33 PM on 03/23/2012
Once upon a time when applying for a low-level security clearance I got caught in a Catch-22 'lie' (arrest expunged from everywhere except FBI files.) This lead to a huge investigation into my past. When all was said and done I was able to deficate out of two body cavities instead of one. I didn't get the clearance, but didn't lose my job either.
This was wayyy pre 9/11, and as it turned out, at least at that time, all 'they' were looking for was honesty. Seems one's past didn't matter; the granting of those low-level clearances was mainly based on 'are you truthful today'.

The investigation turned out being extremely freeing for me, since there was absolutely nothing Our Gov't didn't know about me and I was burdened with no skeletons in any closets.
That file was stuck in a box with thousands just like it and stacked away in a dark corner of a warehouse, since Win95 was still years away from release and there was barely a thing known as computer-file storage much less near-unlimited storage.

Today? Completely different story.
Most peope, initially, have only themselves to blame. Social networking comes with a HUGE price. You allow yourself to be tracked, freely volunteering information about your every move.

This isn't violation-of-privacy as made out being, most are already there on their own accord.
The REAL problem is Gov't now being able to hold citizens indefinitely.
THAT'S the rub!
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miz-ribble
Some will rob you with a six gun, other's with a f
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miz-ribble
Some will rob you with a six gun, other's with a f
11:50 AM on 03/23/2012
Sorry , the last post was wrong link ...
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miz-ribble
Some will rob you with a six gun, other's with a f
11:49 AM on 03/23/2012
Pretty interesting read.....it all relates...
http://intelligence.house.gov/about/hpsci-majority-members
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miz-ribble
Some will rob you with a six gun, other's with a f
11:53 AM on 03/23/2012
Even though this is the wrong link ...... I have to wonder how Michelle Bachmann got on any intelligence committee.
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Midnight Cry
Tax Reform Now!
10:59 AM on 03/23/2012
His background is sealed off, but ours is not. Not very fair is it?
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Marxsuxd
Define Fundamental Transformation of the US
11:59 AM on 03/23/2012
He should be transparent as promised and start leading by example.
If he's not going to release his background then at least release the Huffinpuff and Justin Bieber posts.
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Angrykitteh
You're on double secret probation....
10:50 AM on 03/23/2012
I personally have nothing to hide. Not even an unpaid parking ticket. lol However, the thought of someone, anyone, poking around in my "private" records, and then possibly maintaining them for 5 years, disturbs me greatly.

What's the criteria for this? Would it be something as innocuous as posting here? Maybe writing an article that decries the current administration? Freedom pf speech?

In any event, bend over America, because here it comes.
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Marxsuxd
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12:10 PM on 03/23/2012
"Bend over America"? Now you've really done it, that one goes into the posterity pile along with that long Walmart shopping list you put on your iphone that includes nail polish remover, hair bleach and a few other verry suspicious lawn care items.
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Angrykitteh
You're on double secret probation....
08:28 AM on 03/24/2012
Boy are you ignorant making assumptions based on a few sentences. Proves you know nothing.
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babyspittle
Fox Fake News kills brain cells
12:39 PM on 03/23/2012
you drama queens should finish reading the article before you comment.

if you DID read it, your reading comprehension skills need work.
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MacTheCat
Those Clouds You See Aren't really clouds at all
06:32 PM on 03/23/2012
Yes. Everything is fine. Back to sleep..............
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Angrykitteh
You're on double secret probation....
08:29 AM on 03/24/2012
As do yours. There's nothing "dramatic" about my post.
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lemmyk73
When you see a Rainbow, it is God having gay sex.
10:10 AM on 03/23/2012
Of course- Obama is a neocon hawk corporatist who has his own interests above those of the American people.

And the Progressives cheer for Obama.
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babyspittle
Fox Fake News kills brain cells
12:40 PM on 03/23/2012
conservatives don't have the ability to comprehend what they read.
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MacTheCat
Those Clouds You See Aren't really clouds at all
06:32 PM on 03/23/2012
do you have any rebuttal or just rovian put downs?
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Unindoctrinated
Delusion free.
12:27 PM on 03/24/2012
Only because he's better than the alternative.
Maybe one day there will be a sensible way to choose a nations leader but this current pick-your-dictator, two party system is rotten to the core. There is simply no way a person could run for power without major party support or even if it actually happened Congress and the Senate would never pass anything because they just default to it's not my parties proposal therefore I won't support it. There are fewer ethical politicians than there are gods.