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Turkey Clashes: Female Kurdish Rebels Killed In Southeast Of Country

By SUZAN FRASER 03/24/12 01:23 PM ET AP

ANKARA, Turkey -- Turkish forces killed 15 female Kurdish rebel fighters in clashes in southeast Turkey, officials said Saturday, in what is believed to be the largest one-day casualty toll for women since their guerrilla group began fighting for autonomy nearly 28 years ago.

The clashes occurred in a mainly Kurdish province of Bitlis, and in addition to the women it killed a government-paid village guard helping Turkish forces and wounded three others, the government said. The private Dogan news agency said the clashes occurred all day Friday.

The PKK, which is fighting for autonomy in Turkey's mainly Kurdish southeast, was born out of Marxist ideology and believes in equality between men and women. It is believed to have several female units. Female PKK militants carried out suicide bombings in 1990s, killing dozens of troops and civilians.

Many female fighters have been killed alongside male comrades in clashes, but Saturday's toll was the highest number of female PKK casualties killed in clashes at any one time.

Earlier this month, unconfirmed Turkish media reports said eight female fighters were killed in an avalanche in neighboring northern Iraq, where the rebels maintain bases that launch hit-and-run attacks on Turkish targets.

The clashes in Bitlis coincided with an upsurge in fighting between the rebels and the security forces. At least seven Turkish security force members and 24 Kurdish rebels – including the 15 women – have been killed in fighting this week. Spring is the time when fighting picks up as snow melts from mountain passes, which the rebels use to sneak into the country from Iraq.

The PKK, considered a terrorist organization by the European Union and the United States, took up arms in 1984. The conflict has killed tens of thousands of people since then.

A government campaign to reconcile with Kurds – who make up around 20 percent of Turkey's 74 million people – by granting them more rights stalled in 2009 amid a surge in fighting.

The government has also acknowledged that officials have held secret talks with the PKK, but has since vowed to maintain its military drive until the group lays down arms.

However, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and other government officials have left the door open for dialogue with Kurdish groups not involved in violence.

Still, Kurdish politicians accuse the government of insincerity, citing police roundups of Kurdish activists, journalists and others suspected of rebel links.

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ANKARA, Turkey -- Turkish forces killed 15 female Kurdish rebel fighters in clashes in southeast Turkey, officials said Saturday, in what is believed to be the largest one-day casualty toll for women ...
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06:11 AM on 04/01/2012
What sort of culture Turkey has

Other than stories of genocides . . .!

Its ground full of stagnated blood

Of innocents who raced for their lives…!
What sort of culture Turkey has . . .

Recently killed 15 young brave Kurdish girls

Calling them rebels

Even not written in Arabic Quran…

That they’re allowed to kill young girls

Those beautiful . . . soulful girls

Just few years ago were dancing on their beds…

They never carried any guns…
Who wrote their book

And called it Quran (Allah’s Book)

That book must be written by Latin alphabet

And changed the way they like

It is written there you can kill young children and women . . .

Hence … definitely that book called ‘A Turkish Quran’
Shame who supports them

Without looking at their bloody hands

And their feet step on every day

On skeletons that are still harder than iron
Even if they search and clean them

From Turkey’s earth one by one…

That task seems Impossible

As all are composed of billions’ DNA . . . sssss . . .!
I hope one day must be analyzed
To tell the universe who were they…!

(C) Sylva-MD-Poetry
01:58 PM on 03/30/2012
http://news.am/eng/news/98930.html
Turks advertise tourism for Armenian Highlands called City of Ani build in 5th century,
but they never mention that this was Armenian Highlands
Like to say Pyramids doesn't belong to Egypt to Pharaohs...!
Denial after denial...Do they think every one are illiterate like them...
Who visits there he knows...he has aim to see the ruins and that beautiful city ...
One day people were calling silk road...
01:36 AM on 03/28/2012
Turkish flag are red because it is full of blood since 11th century ...They invaded and killed and established their state ...USA respect them because they know how to kill confiscate and live...
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Volkan Koknar
05:09 AM on 03/28/2012
Yeah Turkish flag is red, it symbolise the blood we sacrifice in wars. It's not symbolising the dirty blood of others.
We invade this land on 1071. And we fought against Byzantine not against Armenians. So when we came here there were no Armenian country, there were no Kurdish country...

We took this land from Byzantine and we finished Byzantine Empire. So for 1000 years this is our land. You must learn the fact, noone can move Turks from here.
01:04 PM on 03/30/2012
Was Ani (Armenian high land) Byzantine Land or Armenian Capital with 1001 Churches. Still some churches remain there vandalized ...
There are churches in Arab and persian lands no one can vandalize ...
Aren't they muslims before you read Quran ...But they respect every religion...
In 1064 a large Seljuk Turkish army, headed by Sultan Alp Arslan, with the help of the Caucasian Georgians headed by King Bagrat, attacked Ani and after a siege of 25 days they captured the city and slaughtered its population. An account of the sack and massacres in Ani is given by the Arab historian Sibt ibn al-Gawzi, who quotes an eyewitness saying:
“The army entered the city, massacred its inhabitants, pillaged and burned it, leaving it in ruins and taking prisoner all those who remained alive . . . The dead bodies were so many that they blocked the streets; one could not go anywhere without stepping over them and the number of prisoners was not less than 50,000 souls. I was determined to enter city and see the destruction with my own eyes. I tried to find a street in which I would not have to walk over the corpses; but that was impossible.” (ref: Wikioedia)

If you are turkish go and visit...
01:12 PM on 03/30/2012
One day some one will move when the Earth turns upside down...
If you believe in miracles ...Every thing is possible ...
I don't there is God... we are all cheated if there was a god and ottoman's had fear from God will not kill my grandfather and confiscate their lands...
and leave Immigrants ...
You know your history, we know hours that lands belongs to us and never you...
You are killers invaders as Arab calls you Saffahs (butchers)...
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08:23 AM on 03/26/2012
Why is it a big deal that women fighters/soldiers are being killed alongside men? This is the way it should be.
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07:56 AM on 03/26/2012
Reason number 153,456th to deny Turkey EU membership.
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10:58 AM on 03/26/2012
No need for so much reason. One reason is enough for christian bigots. Turkish nation is muslim. The rest is your game on international politics.
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02:02 PM on 03/26/2012
Koknar, reason number 153,457th why Turkey and its people don't belong in the European Union.
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07:54 AM on 03/26/2012
So much for hearts and minds thing.
These 15 Turkish women were executed without a trial. This oppressive Turkish violation of human rights must be condemned by United Nation resolution. This repressive action by Turkish oppressors will inspire a new, larger generation of Kurdish freedom fighters to emerge to take on neo-OttomanTurkish overlords. Free Kurdistan! Free Cyprus! Free Hagia Sophia.
11:40 PM on 03/25/2012
When the Turks declare a War on Women, they use real bullets.
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11:06 AM on 03/26/2012
Some western guys really has submassive fantasies. If you can see mountain monkey guerillas who carry ak-47 as women then don't make war, make love with them..
08:49 AM on 04/01/2012
Because they don't feel they have mothers ... sisters... daughters... wife...or wives
They enjoy killing because
The kurds do not don't belong to their race
They call every one rebels...
They are people of God
God gives them Scimitars to kill and
Kazookhs to induce the most sensitive part of body...!
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03:39 PM on 03/25/2012
"The PKK, considered a terrorist organization by the European Union and the United States, took up arms in 1984. The conflict has killed tens of thousands of people since then."

Hmm. That's a lot more than have been killed in the far more publicized clash in the ME.

So where are the UN condemnations? The aid "flotillas/caravans?" How can Turkey back Hamas when they fight the PKK their own backyard?
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05:04 PM on 03/25/2012
Who do you want the UN to condemn? Why would anybody send a flotilla or caravan, that region of Turkey is not under blockade.
05:16 PM on 03/25/2012
Palestinians ARE under a brutal military occupation and denied their very basic rights on a daily basis. Turkish Kurds are NOT. But you knew that already, right?
08:56 AM on 04/01/2012
They can't speak their own language
No kurdish schools No T.V
No radio in Kurdish language
they put their journalist in jails
Do you call it they have rights...!!!
Awake you are confusing new Internet cohorts ...
No one can believe you now a days...
The world is changed...!
11:17 AM on 04/01/2012
Of course they can speak their language. There are Kurdish TVs, and even Kurdish schools in Tukey. The World has changed, better catch up!
11:15 AM on 03/25/2012
A terrorist with a gun is a terrorist first, a man or a woman second. When one takes on a massive army, certain outcomes are inevitible.

Turks have come a long way adressing their Kurdish problem, it is way past time Kurds start adressing their Turkish problem.
08:58 AM on 04/01/2012
You have no humanity
You carry Ottomans genes
Clear your sense
Pray to Chenkis khan
Not to Allah...
Allah did not allow you yo kill...
11:20 AM on 04/01/2012
Do not leave your day job. What are Ottoman genes by the way, a racist would know I guess... Did you check your own genes?
05:32 AM on 03/25/2012
its reported that the PKK boys ran and escaped the encirclement but the girls were not that fast...such a shame for those PKK men for leaving their women behind ;)
02:14 AM on 03/25/2012
Brutal Turks, give the Kurds they're land you thieving Turks.
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04:54 AM on 03/26/2012
There's no kurdish land. That land never belong to kurds in whole history...
As a Turkish i can tell i would prefer to give that land to Armenians instead of Kurds.
Because the place where they call Kurdistan is old Armenian land not Kurdish.
And to take a land from Turks there's no nation in middle east ready to spare enough blood for that.
Because in Turkish tradition we are ready to give our lives and blood instead of giving one single rock. If someone want to take that rock, they must be ready to spend more blood than us...
01:17 PM on 03/30/2012
See you are correct that was armenian highlands ...Kars ...Ani... Ararat...Even you moved mount Ararat and called it Agre ...still no body agrees ...
You changed anatolian animal names from encyclopedia...If you can change Arabic alphabet of Real Quran to Latin ...you can change any thing ...
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02:03 AM on 03/25/2012
Ankara is considering abolishing the reservations it has put on the Council of Europe’s Charter of Local Self-Government in an attempt to address the demands of the Kurdish population. The move may be part of a new, officially unannounced strategy, to both solve the Kurdish question and end terrorism.

According to information gathered by the Hürriyet Daily News from senior government officials, the abolition of the reservations on the charter could be discussed among Cabinet members in the course of the implementation of a new anti-terror strategy in combination with democratic and security measures. A Cabinet decree is sufficient to end the reservations on the charter, which was signed by Turkey in 1988 when reservations were put on almost all charter articles amid concerns about threats to the country’s unitary structure.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkish-government-could-broaden-local-ruling-rights.aspx?pageID=238&nID=16774&NewsCatID=338
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06:33 PM on 03/26/2012
Nice that they're considering this. And so patient of you to not criticize Turkey vehemently on human rights issues as long as someone is thinking a different way.

It would be nice to see you apply this same patience, optimism and apologist attitude toward Israel. After all, no government policy in Israel is universally supported by the people or the politicians, and in Israel, there are always committees "considering" various strategies.

Unless of course, you just hate Israel for your own xenophobic and anti-Semitic reasons.
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12:15 AM on 03/27/2012
It just must be my own xenophobia and antisemitism because clearly the two issues are about the same.
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02:01 AM on 03/25/2012
The Turkish government’s reported new strategy for solving the Kurdish issue has sparked controversy, as a senior minister said he was not aware of such a plan, while leading Kurdish politicians bluntly dismissed it, and the main opposition party has called for an open debate in Parliament.

Deputy Prime Minister Bülent Arınç said that he was not informed of the new strategy, relayed to the media by anonymous top security officials, which does not include negotiations with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/new-strategy-stirs-politics-in-ankara.aspx?pageID=238&nID=16775&NewsCatID=338
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03:19 PM on 03/25/2012
Did Turkey offer a state to the Kurds?
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11:57 PM on 03/25/2012
Yes, South Carolina but the immediately rejected it. You can't really blame them.
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05:05 AM on 03/26/2012
Why do we need to offer state to Kurds? %75 of the Kurds are living outside the region some people try to call as Kurdistan.
Do you think Kurds who are living on agean, mediterranean sea coast will go back to their states?
If %75 of kurds will be living with Turks in Istanbul and other west cities why Turks will give a state to Kurds?
Do you think Kurds are ready to loose all their lush business on western cities and of turkey and move back to south east cities which are under high pressure of clanist system and terror organisation?
PKK just want authorithy they are not representing all Kurds, even represent only %25 of the Kurds, other Kurdish citizens are giving their votes to ordinary Turkish political parties.
The leader of PKK has told in 1980's after they killed kurdish civilians that they blamed to cooperate with goverment, "KILL TO EARN THE AUTHORITHY"...
So if someone believe that they can kill to take authorithy, why europeans are so sensitive when they and their supporters dies?
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12:03 AM on 03/25/2012
Wow, that's an amazing story--who knew there were such female fighters as those Syrian-Kurdish girls. Maybe it's time everyone should read the history of the Kurds, because I'm beginnng to think teir cause may be the most legitimate of all the Islamic groups fighting for justice.
08:22 AM on 03/27/2012
Thanks. If you read more about it, you'll quickly realize we have a much stronger case than the Palestinians for instance. In fact Turkey should go back to Central Asia where they belong. This land have always been non Turkish until some 900 years ago when Turkish nomads started to arrive from Central Asia.
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06:19 PM on 03/28/2012
You are a comic bigot. Who will send Turks back? Your girls? hahahaha.
You kurds sell your girls for money as a bride.
You can't marry with a kurdish girl unless you give money to her parents.
So i guess terror organisation bought some kurdish girls.
And i wonder how they use those girls more than guerilla actions?
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Volkan Koknar
06:21 PM on 03/28/2012
They are not Syrian.
And if you read much about Kurdish culture you can see it is one of the worst primitive in middle east. Everything they blame Turkey about is coming from kurdish citizens, like honor killings, secondary citizenship of women, violence to women, clanist mafia system, drug and human trade...
10:13 PM on 03/24/2012
Kurds. Armenians, Turkey

I love this issue. It splits pretty much all the gangs here at HP.

The UN/NATO gangs.
The Israel First gangs.
The anti-Muslim gangs.
The pro-Muslim gangs.
The pro-Syria intervention gangs.