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Leon Panetta: Afghanistan War Can't Be Guided By Polls

By LOLITA BALDOR 03/27/12 06:54 PM ET AP

OTTAWA, Ontario — The war in Afghanistan can't be determined by polls, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Tuesday, asserting that the U.S. must continue with its strategy in the decade-old conflict despite plummeting American confidence in the war.

Panetta said that there is no question that the American people are tired of war. But, he said, the public understands the U.S. is engaged in Afghanistan because of the attacks on Sept. 11, and to prevent al-Qaida from again finding safe havens there to launch attacks.

"We cannot fight wars by polls. If we do that we're in deep trouble," Panetta told reporters at a press conference after a day of meetings with Canadian and Mexican defense ministers here. "We have to operate based on what we believe is the best strategy to achieve the mission that we are embarked on. And the mission here is to safeguard our country by insuring that the Taliban and al-Qaida never again find a safe haven in Afghanistan."

A New York Times/CBS News poll found that 69 percent of those questioned believe the United States should not be at war in Afghanistan, and roughly the same amount say the fighting is going either somewhat or very badly. The numbers are up sharply from four months ago, when a bit more than half said the U.S. should not be at war in Afghanistan.

The survey reflects a growing frustration among the public and on Capitol Hill with the war, even as the Obama administration tries to map out an exit strategy that would shift the security lead to the Afghans by mid-2013.

Canadian Defense Minister Peter MacKay was even more blunt about the poll, saying that as one prime minister of Canada put it: "Polls are for dogs."

"This is our generation's war, this is a test of perseverance," said MacKay, whose country has about 1,000 troops in Afghanistan, largely doing training. "Our ability to carry through for the long-term security of not just Afghanistan but the region and also the entire world, so there is a lot at stake. Canada will be there with our NATO partners."

Panetta said that a lot of lives have been lost in the war, and "our commitment must be to insure that those lives have not been lost in vain." He said that he and his military commanders are convinced that 2011 was a turning point in the war and that the levels of violence are declining.

Panetta was in Ottawa to meet with his defense counterparts, in what U.S. officials hope will be a continuing effort to address shared security threats, including drug trafficking, cyber breaches and border issues.

MacKay, Panetta, Gen. Guillermo Galvan Galvan, Mexico's national defense secretary, and Adm. Mariano Francisco Saynex Mendoza, Mexico's Navy secretary, all said that the three countries must improve their defense cooperation because many of the threats that cross the North American borders. The leaders agreed to formalize the process and continue to meet periodically on the issues.

In other comments Tuesday, Panetta restated his support for the F-35 stealth fighter, and said the U.S. needs it for the future. But said the U.S. needs to continue to do as much oversight as possible over the contract process. And MacKay said the fighter is still the aircraft that Canada wants, but there will be careful monitoring of the program.

Canada's associate defense minister, Julian Fantino, said earlier this month that his government could back out of its multibillion-dollar plan to buy as many as 65 of the F-35 stealth fighters from the United States. The Lockheed Martin-manufactured fighter is the Pentagon's most expensive weapons program and it has been troubled by schedule delays and cost overruns.

In January, Panetta took the program off the probation which had been imposed by then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates a year earlier because it was experiencing "significant testing problems." But Panetta has warned that the troubled program is not yet out of the woods.

Ten years in, the total F-35 program cost has jumped from $233 billion to an estimated $385 billion. Recent estimates suggest the entire program could exceed $1 trillion over 50 years.

The developer of the aircraft, Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co., is building three versions of the F-35 – one each for the Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps. The plane would replace Cold War-era aircraft such as the Air Force F-16 fighter and the Navy's F/A-18 Hornet.

In outlining next year's defense budget, Panetta said the administration would slow the purchase of the F-35, a step Congress would have to approve.

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08:42 PM on 04/07/2012
Obama promised he would get us out of Afghanistan, now they tell us they don't listen to polls. So, how about telling us the real reason why we are staying in Afghanistan. Why do we have to watch soldiers drive over IED after IED. Why do our soldiers stand alongside Afghan security forces who shoot them. Why do we put soldiers in the path of suicide bombers time and time again. We the people would like to know.
01:09 AM on 04/06/2012
He is right. Why should generals build their policy around the thought of people who have no idea what they are talking about? That puts those in uniform in danger. Less than 1% of the population is on active duty, even less than that has ever deployed to a combat zone, Simply put, if you have never been to Afghanistan (or another war zone) and seen it first hand, keep your horribly uninformed opinions to yourself. If you want a RIGHT to an opinion, the Armed Forces Recruiting Center can be found easily.
08:13 AM on 03/29/2012
Any war is long over, and it is not the job description of the military to "nation build". That effort is shear folly, as you will never bring a Stone Age tribal society into the 21st Century. It is a total waste of lives, time and money.
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03:00 AM on 03/29/2012
Eventually democracy has to prevail. In other words, the time will come when nobody who supports continuing the war in Afghanistan can win an election in the USA. Global strategy, anyone?
02:24 AM on 03/29/2012
It went down to the wire when the were picking the Defense Secretary, it was either Pee Wee Herman or Leon and Leon knew people.
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Jimmy Gitz
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01:07 AM on 03/29/2012
Prevent al-Qaida and Taliban from "finding" safe haven? The rules-of-engagement hamper a realistic effort to actually reach such a goal. There has never been a greater "Hell" than what our troops are facing in Afghanistan now. Worse than Vietnam, when our troops could not always ID the enemy, this time the enemy may be an "allied" Afghan soldier or policeman, or other. We need to train Afghan troops here in the USA - little risk to our troops and much more cost effective. We also need to concentrate our efforts to foster and bolster the Arab Spring. Get our troops out of danger, now. An as for Canada, 1000 troops - you should be ashamed to even comment.....jcg
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Chopin
Multiply the truth. Speak truth through power.
11:44 PM on 03/28/2012
Here's an ironic twist in this human story:--

One man (that every American knows about) profitted so SO MUCH from nobid war-profiteering contracts that he wants to live forever by extending his life to be the oldest heart transplant patient, while young men and women are sent to kill and die in a war he started.
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Chopin
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10:41 PM on 03/28/2012
"And the mission here is to safeguard our country by insuring that the Taliban and al-Qaida never again find a safe haven in Afghanistan."

That statement of mission by Secretary Panetta is arid nonsense. Afghanistan is a nation with population of 30 million people. "Never" means not ever, or indefinite duration into the future. That is the best succinct definition by a US Secretary of Defense of what a "mission impossible" is and constitutes. In order to succeed in that mission as stated, it would implicitly mean turning Afghanistan into an American colony or "protectorate" for an indefinite future duration. It would be unachievable at unacceptable costs. It would contravene foundational principles of the UN. It would garner no international acceptance of such stated policy as it is defined. It would be utterly unachievable mission militarily or politically by U.S. It would not be an acceptable mission for the vast majority of Americans.

The central issue is not Americans' war-weariness, although that's the main symptom precipitating total rejection of such impossible mission. The central issue is an American imperial mission and goal that is utterly unachievable militarily and politically, counterproductive, and self-destructive of USA as a democratic republic. In plain language, this imperial policy would fundamentally subvert and inevitably ultimately destroy what remains of the democratic governance of the American republic.

Secretary Panetta should be mindful of the proven adage:
"Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires."
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MikeDu
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03:42 AM on 03/29/2012
Al Qaida, if they wanted to, could set up shop in any of a dozen countries, some of which you'd be hard-pressed to find on a map. They tried to set up shop in Iraq but the Iraqis militias turned on them. Occupying foreigners are occupying foreigners, whether they're Americans or Chechens. The only reason why Al Qaida happened to be in Afghanistan circa 2001 was because the CIA had been financing foreign mercenaries to fight there for years.
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Withiur Konsent
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10:29 PM on 03/28/2012
Translation: Democracy doesn't apply to the wars of the bank cartel.

Shut_up and argue over_abortion please.
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shewolf2002
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08:55 PM on 03/28/2012
Translation: the American public has no idea why we are fighting a war in Afghanistan (and we're not sharing why), so their uninformed opinion should have no bearing on our strategy. What do you think we are, a democracy?
01:12 AM on 04/06/2012
We aren't a democracy, we are a republic. You are right, Education is a national security issue. I am sorry your educators failed you.
07:45 PM on 03/28/2012
In other words, pay no attention to what the American people want and continue onward in folly.
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Druid Priest
09:43 PM on 03/28/2012
And let's just wait for another 9/11.
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grant06
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06:56 PM on 03/28/2012
When JFK was assasinated LBJ became President and Vietnam became his war. He eventually became so unpopular that he gave up running for a second and a half term. We started hearing the same sort of comments from Dean Rusk and all of the funny hats in the Pentagon as this one from Panetta. This leads to the question: If our opinions are so unimportant, why is the President raising so much money to infuence our vote?
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Jimmy Gitz
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12:47 AM on 03/29/2012
We have power at the polls. The problem this year is if we go with other than Obama -- the war will flourish. Catch 22.....jcg
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05:44 PM on 03/28/2012
Wanna bet?
05:38 PM on 03/28/2012
LEON: Once you've lost public support for a war ... you've lost the war.
02:38 AM on 03/29/2012
This was never about winning. It was always about profit. The longer they can drag this on for,the more money there is to be made. Innocent people getting killed is a minor inconvenience.
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05:09 PM on 03/28/2012
The strategy can't, but whether we are at war or not can, and should.