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Supreme Court Health Care Law: Justices Come Down Hard On The Mandate

Posted: 03/27/2012 8:06 am Updated: 03/28/2012 2:35 pm

WASHINGTON -- After the Supreme Court oral arguments in the health care case Tuesday morning, the Obama administration better start preparing for the possibility of a future without the individual mandate.

From the very start, things did not go well for the government's argument that the requirement under the Affordable Care Act that virtually all Americans have health insurance or pay a penalty is constitutional.

U.S. Solicitor General Donald Verrilli began his argument not with his usual calm and clear delivery, but rather with a case of coughs that seemed to take him off his game.

And just as he was starting to recover his composure, Justice Anthony Kennedy, a key swing vote, asked, "Can you create commerce in order to regulate it?" Kennedy's question adopted the framing of the case put forward by those challenging the mandate.

From there, the barrage against Verrilli did not relent until he sat down nearly an hour later.

The conservative justices appeared particularly concerned that if they upheld the mandate, Congress would be loosed to regulate nearly anything else it deemed a national problem.

Verrilli argued that the health care market's unique features allow Congress to require the uninsured to purchase health insurance.

"The health care market is characterized by the fact that, aside from the few groups that Congress chose to exempt from the minimum coverage requirement, ... virtually everybody else is either in that market or will be in that market," Verrilli said. Plus, he said, "people cannot generally control when they enter that market."

Chief Justice John Roberts responded, "The same, it seems to me, would be true, say, for the market in emergency services: police, fire, ambulance, roadside assistance, whatever."

When Verrilli said those services do not constitute markets, Justice Samuel Alito asked what would keep the government from applying to burial services -- which Verrilli conceded do constitute a market -- the same rationale about preventing cost-shifting that it used for health care.

Verrilli never quite answered that question, pointing instead to the "billions of dollars of uncompensated costs" that distort the health insurance market.

Alito then flipped the tables, saying that the mandate will require young, healthy people to pay more per year for insurance than they would pay for health care out-of-pocket, thus forcing them "to subsidize services that will be received by somebody else."

"If you're going to have insurance, that's how insurance works," Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg argued back, in the first of the four-justice liberal bloc's attempts to shore up the government's case.

She and Justices Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor would all leap in to make the government's case themselves after Justice Antonin Scalia invoked the prospect of a broccoli mandate.

Verrilli could not gain traction with his alternative argument that the mandate falls within Congress' ability to pass laws "necessary and proper" to effectuate its constitutionally enumerated power to regulate commerce. Scalia, who relied on this clause in 2005 to uphold a federal ban on cultivating marijuana for one's own state-legalized medical consumption, said the individual mandate may be necessary to carry out the Affordable Care Act, but it is not proper "because it violated the sovereignty of the States."

"If the government can do this, what, what else can it not do?" Scalia asked.

Before he sat down, Verrilli offered his remaining justification that the mandate, with its penalty for non-compliance to be paid through one's tax return, was constitutional under Congress' taxing power. But the justices, from Ginsburg to Scalia, seemed unswayed.

After a brief halftime, Paul Clement, a former U.S. solicitor general, began his argument on behalf of the 26 states challenging the mandate.

If Verrilli struggled, Clement shined. The conservative justices remained largely silent as he skated through the liberals' heavy questioning.

"The mandate represents an unprecedented effort by Congress to compel individuals to enter commerce in order to better regulate commerce," he began, employing the same terms Kennedy used to describe the mandate throughout the government's argument.

When Breyer rolled out a multi-part question seemingly designed to be his tour de force on the mandate's obvious constitutionality, Clement cut the legs out from under it, noting that Breyer was talking about the wrong constitutional provision.

Roberts then asked Clement to address the government's contention that "everybody is in this market, so that makes it very different than the market for cars." But it was hard to view this question as anything but diplomatic after Roberts' own clear antagonism to the same contention during Verrilli's hour.

Instead, Roberts appeared to favor the challengers' belief that the mandate regulates the insurance market, not the health care market, and the consumption of insurance, unlike health care, is not an inevitable fact of life.

"We don't get insurance so that we can stare at our insurance certificate," Justice Elena Kagan responded when Clement offered her that argument. "We get it so that we can go and access health care."

Clement parried that remark and concluded his time before the justices apparently unscathed by the liberals' attacks.

Michael Carvin, representing the National Federation of Independent Business and several individuals, used his half hour as a sort of end-zone dance for the seeming defeat of the mandate, going so far as to chuckle at questions from Breyer and Sotomayor.

Towards the end of Carvin's argument, Justice Kennedy said that maybe the health insurance market, after all, is unique enough from other industries to allow a mandate to prevent cost-shifting where it might not be permissible in another market. "[M]ost questions in life are matters of degree," he said, softening from the hard line he seemed to take against the mandate during the first half of the argument.

On rebuttal, Verrilli gamely repeated the mandate's justifications that the conservatives already frowned upon, parting with the one arrow left in his quiver: a plea to the justices' "solemn obligation to respect the judgments of the democratically accountable branches of government."

Whether one or more of the Supreme Court's conservatives will ultimately come to that conclusion, and thereby defy the expectations they set on Tuesday morning, is anyone's guess.

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WASHINGTON -- After the Supreme Court oral arguments in the health care case Tuesday morning, the Obama administration better start preparing for the possibility of a future without the individual man...
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onlyme9999
03:50 PM on 04/08/2012
maybe we should have national health care for everyone but 2200 pages lead me to believe that there is more to it than we know, medicare for everyone, raise taxes on everyone to pay for it, and before you say no, what do you think Obamacare will cost you
02:26 PM on 03/31/2012
Ths is the bottom line for me: WE are the ONLY Major economy in the Free World without a national insurance plan, which costs us TrillIONS of $s a year. This is ridiculous. If the health care rule is found constitutional, and I hope it will, it may not be perfect, but it is a start! And we have to start somewhere....let's we, the People put down our political affiliations and do something for ourselves...Let's say we have rehaul health care in this country and we will start here.. Republicans I will if you will. See I care, and Caring comes before my political affiliations. Anybody want to join me?
05:24 PM on 03/30/2012
Don't understand why people on the right don't get it???

If you drive an auto - you can be a liability to others, therefore must carry an auto insurance.....

Same way--

Those who live and breath, be a liability to taxpayer when to land up in ER's, due to sickness or accident, therefore must buy HC insurance...
03:33 PM on 03/30/2012
IF AN EXTREMIST RIGHT WING SUPREME COURT KEEPS DESTROYING THE DEMOCRATIC FIBER OF THIS COUNTRY ,SHOULD WE WATCH WITHOUT ACTING? ARE SCALIA,THOMAS and ALITO DRASTIC IDEOLOGIES MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR BASIC RIGHTS TO HEALTH CARE and PUBLIC EDUCATION?
09:57 PM on 03/29/2012
Does this mean I won't be mandated to pay car insurance anymore either? Or is that different?
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emanonecafon
01:24 AM on 03/30/2012
Yes, driving a car is very dangerous. When you operate a very powerful and dangerous machine in the immediate vicinity of hundreds of other people, you are required to have a license and insurance to cover the people you place in immidiate danger with your large, powerful, dangerous machine. Operating a dangerous, deadly machine in the immidiate vicinity of hundreds of other people is very much different than simply just being alive in the US. If you really want to keep using this car insurance analogy to argue for every citizen needing insurance, then you must agree just like everyone needs a picture ID to drive a car, everyone must have a picture ID to be a citizen, which they will use to vote. OH NO! What about the poor people, and the disadvantaged minorities? They could never do that. You want to force everyone to get insurance (like for your car) but you don't want everyone to get a picture ID (like for your car). You liberals are hypocritical fools. Take your unconstitutional socialist revolution and shove it.
02:14 AM on 03/30/2012
Dude, calm down. It was an honest question and you went way off on a tangent.

Still, a law mandating that i buy car insurance from a 3rd party is taxation without representation
05:15 PM on 03/30/2012
Yes, having a contagious disease is very dangerous. When you have a contagious disease in the immediate vicinity of hundreds of other people, having insurance to help cure you to prevent the spread of your contagious disease would be very helpful to the people you place in immidiate danger with your contagious disease
09:39 PM on 03/29/2012
If the Supreme Court strikes the Afforable Health Care Act Americans should take to the Streets. Scream to the powers that we are tired of being murdered by insurance company greed. Show the World that Americans aren't frightened or complacent. Prove Americans will stand up for their rights. Medicare for All Single Payer Insurance is the Only Solution and it would be Constitutional.
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soma77
Author, Speaker, Retreat Facilitator
09:02 PM on 03/29/2012
The Republican answer to healthcare is to get rid of medicare. The Republican death panels have decided it is best if the poor and elderly just die and die quickly so they can't vote in the next election.
08:10 PM on 03/29/2012
For all those cheering the demise of healthcare reform, and the individual mandate (i.e. personal responsibility) I have a question: I am self-employed--thus a 'job-creator.' More and more people are becoming self-employed and I believe more would if it weren't for the issue of health insurance. Rates for individuals made it IMPOSSIBLE for me to afford insurance--until 'RomneyCare' was passed. Now I have a job--AND peace of mind. Because unlike some people I do not consider going to the emergency room to be healthcare, nor do I consider it the responsible thing to do.

So, please explain to me why others who are self-employed but don't have the good fortune to live in my state should not have access to affordable healthcare? What would you suggest they do? Just not get sick? Not get hit by a bus?
02:50 PM on 03/30/2012
Well, If you understand history, which you probably understand some. Before the US got involved, churches and charities played a HUGE role. People who had jobs paid MUCH less, which made health care much more affordable for more people. Now this also made it possible for churches and charities to take care of even more people than they can today. Use food as an example. Everyone needs it, should the government pay for everyones food? should we have food insurance? If so, why get the hamburger when you can have the filet. You'll be charged more, and there for your insurance on food would rise. This is what's happening now! Health care has gone up 5% annually cause hospitals are charging more and more now. That's higher than inflation.
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sheaintsayin
Is my micro bio winking at me...? ;-)
08:01 PM on 03/29/2012
The supreme Court will do what they will; either uphold the law, or ultimately force it to get better. Not a problem, and maybe even better 'cause when November 7 dawns, we will witness the urgency of now and the all out effort on the original program we wanted, as in single payer. We will get this done with the help of the election of the Democrats to once again control both houses of Congress, and the White House.

Obama/Biden/Clinton 2012: There is a plan B - it is the original Plan!
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Ossit
Ossit
02:52 PM on 03/29/2012
Please forgive my awful spelling. It'll take me a few weeks to write legibly again without typing really really slow like now. It takes longer and longer to recover from my TIA's. The words are in my head but I can't get 'em out right.
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Ossit
Ossit
02:49 PM on 03/29/2012
To this day, I still have trouble communicating with writing so sometimes what I see may seem a little garbled. When I had insurance it didn't stop these TIA's. I have two or three a month. It's absolute heck! My memory gets shot, my writing is affected, I get tired typing, I have little grip in my left hand. When I had insurance it didn't pay for adequate treatment. MRI showed nothing. Well guess what, in a TIA it never SHOWS. People say there's no damage. Well I've rewired my noggin so many times I'm surprised I'm still able to. It's a pain in the butt when one comes and I can barely speak. I'm supposed to run into an ER every time? Not on your life!

The only thing different about when I had insurance compared to now not having it, was the MRI. I've had to get used to these attacks that come without warning. They used to come after a migraine. I was on medication paid for by insurance. What did they do? Get me even more confused. I had to stop them. Not so much because of the confusion, but because of constant blood tests to check my levels.

My point has always been, long winded though it is, no one should be forced to buy anythin whether you're sick or never have been.
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Ossit
Ossit
02:38 PM on 03/29/2012
I explained to one poster, who asked me, what was my point in relaying my TIA story. Buy medical insurance through force! It'll help you pay for a catastrophic illness. Well when I went into the hospital, having a TIA(mini stroke)being paralyzed on side, having NO power of speech, that WAS a catastrophic illness. What insurance get me? I was NOT treated with kid gloves. I was forced to walk when I physically couldn't very well. Did I get speech therapy? NO! It was never offered so insurance could pay for it. Did I get physical therapy?(my left hand is still weak and barely have a grip to this day)NO! Never offered so insurance could pay for it through my father's business paying the insurance premiums.

People say buy medical insurance it'll pay for things! I still had to pay a BIG bill that insurance didn't cover. My parents didn't help.

Does my insurance buy considerate staff? It didn't me and I had a "catastrophic" illness people are always warning about. Do you still have to buy supplimental insurance to cover non covered things? Yes. Can that insurance company still deny you? They'll find ways to get around that. Should you be forced to pay for insurance when you're NOT sick? NO! That was the point.
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KarenBryanBSRN
God does for us what we cannot do for ourselves...
11:48 AM on 03/29/2012
The Supreme Court will ensure the Constitutional right of all Americans is upheld.

That will likely be a complete overturn of this ridiculous "reform" mandate which is one of the steps the current inexperienced leader was allowed to run with in his efforts to take over a country built on a foundation so strong that even his damage will wash away with the next outgoing tide.

This is not a party statement this is a statement of return America to her tenets and mandate the Constitution in all areas of life; economic, government, and business to allow each American the opportunity to be all 'he or she' can be...
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KarenBryanBSRN
God does for us what we cannot do for ourselves...
12:31 PM on 03/29/2012
Yawn. Just another "fantasy trumps reality" type of coughed-up, hallucinogen-riddled hairball, showing all observers what manner of garbage you've been ingesting.
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KarenBryanBSRN
God does for us what we cannot do for ourselves...
12:59 PM on 03/29/2012
You can't even spell did you ever get to school?
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KarenBryanBSRN
God does for us what we cannot do for ourselves...
01:00 PM on 03/29/2012
Not to mention your slander and libel (do you know what those words mean)? The Supreme Court is not high they are right on the mark old boy get with the program or move to Cuba...
10:17 AM on 03/29/2012
A Supreme Rejection may be the last nail in the GOP's legislative coffin on healthcare. Since this was obviously their alternative to Single Payer - let's have that debate again with this option CLEARLY off the table.

Thank the Roberts Court for Single Payer.
10:15 AM on 03/29/2012
We may have to accept that insurance companies are not a necessary component of healthcare - and thus any scheme which requires their perpetual existence is unwise.

The best outcome would be a full repeal which once again energizes voters, provides an army of bald poster-children denied care, a return to the evils of insurance company schemes, and the nerve to more thoroughly solve Healthcare - let's admit, the Insurance Company Protection act is so ugly even it's own mother wants nothing to do with it.

Next Stop Single Payer.