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Allen West Is Upset About Rule Allowing Handicapped Access To Commercial Swimming Pools

Posted: 03/28/2012 11:36 am Updated: 03/28/2012 6:36 pm

Allen West

So, hey, what's Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) upset about today? Oh, you know, the nanny state and its terrible impositions, same-old, same-old. But more specifically, he's mad about a regulation that requires all public pools, hot tubs and spas to be handicap-accessible and have a permanent lift, which is now going to force South Florida hoteliers to -- um...allow handicapped patrons to access the swimming facilities, I guess? The Sun-Sentinel's William Gibson has the congressman on the record about this:

"This is another example of the bureaucratic nanny-state not considering the economic ramifications of its insidious regulatory policies," said West, a Republican from Plantation. "I have talked with and received letters from several South Florida hotels saying this is a wasteful exercise that will cost Florida businesses a lot of money and accomplish nothing."

I'm pretty sure that the rule won't, in fact, "accomplish nothing." Just off the top of my head, it seems to me that it will allow a lot of handicapped hotel patrons to go swimming. If it succeeds in doing so, then the rule will have accomplished 100 percent of its goals, actually.

The Sun Sentinel also features a quote from the president of a company that operates 46 hotels in Florida, declaring the rule to be "an economic disaster to hotels in Florida." And West returns toward the end to say, "With such a short amount of time given to implement the new regulations, many hotels will be forced to shut down their pools." Ahh, there's the problem: West seems to think that everyone's had but a "short amount of time" to install these lifts and bring their swimming pools into compliance with the Americans With Disabilities Act.

But that's not the case. As WJHG-ABC News in Panama City, Fla., reported back in November of 2011:

The Americans with Disabilities Act swimming pool guidelines became the law of the law of the land in April 2011, but many commercial pool owners are still unaware of the law, which requires all commercial pools to be handicapped accessible. Those pool owners will now have to install wheelchair lifts or sloped entries at their own expense.

[...]

Edgewater Beach Resort is one of the few along Panama City Beach that is in compliance with the ADA regulation.

“We’ve had the chair for 15 years, we knew the importance about being accessible to the pool water while they’re here to enjoy their stay” said Michelle Lacewell, Edgewater Beach Resort Marketing Director.

One Edgewater Beach Resort Resident, Ed Thomasson, told WJHG that he's "pleased" by the resort's "early compliance," saying, “You have handicap people all the time. If they know they can get in the water, they do. It’s amazing how many people use that chair, it’s a wonderful thing.”

So, let's get it straight. Hotels that have facilities in compliance? Everyone's happy! Hotels that have done nothing to comply with the law after months and months and now have 72 hours before the rule goes into effect? Complaining to Allen West.

Meanwhile, I note that one company that can provide these lifts to area hotels is South Daytona's Aquatic Design Systems. Why does Allen West want to hurt this small business in his own state with his job-killing declarations?

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So, hey, what's Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) upset about today? Oh, you know, the nanny state and its terrible impositions, same-old, same-old. But more specifically, he's mad about a regulation that requ...
So, hey, what's Rep. Allen West (R-Fla.) upset about today? Oh, you know, the nanny state and its terrible impositions, same-old, same-old. But more specifically, he's mad about a regulation that requ...
 
 
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goodmarina 12:54 PM on 03/28/2012
Two thoughts:


1.  The American's with Disabilities Act was passed under President George H. Walker Bush in 1988 and gave businesses until 1990 to comply.   It is disgraceful that some businesses that make their profit because they deal with the public cannot get their act together after 22 years. 


2.  Alan West - being an  Read More...
08:52 PM on 10/02/2012
I manage a hotel in the Florida Keys. We purchased the portable version of this pool lift about 2 years ago to become ADA compliant. This lift, at the time, cost about $5,000.00.
Since the purchase of the lift we have not used it even one time. I think West has it right here, it was wasteful spending imposed on us by the ADA.
Not intending to offend anyone here, just telling our experience with this issue.
Would you want to spend $5,000.00 on something you only store in a room "in case" you need it?
I doubt it.
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Q45
I'M IN
09:36 AM on 11/20/2012
$5,000.00? Our Veterans are worth far more than $5,000.00, after all they fort for your freedom and IMHO, that's a small price to pay for the sacrifice's they've made.
10:28 AM on 02/20/2013
i think its better to have something than when a pwd like myself comes to your hotel and wants access to the pool i have to hear "Oh i'm sorry mame but we don't have access to the pool for you, most times people don't see the need for something until they are the ones in the position or as some say "until the booth is on the other foot"
12:03 AM on 04/11/2012
Handicapped are people too, you harsh insensitive, you call yourself a man
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12:59 AM on 04/01/2012
I believe "all access" to a facilities recreation is not a whole lot to ask. Disabled guests pay the same rate as able bodied ones do. I happen to be disabled, not to the point of a chair, yet. I love to swim, and it is one of the very few activities that I am still able to do. But if there was a pool at my hotel, and I couldn't use it, well I wouldn't stay in a hotel like that. It is unjust to make people give up simple pleasures because it may cost some money to the owners. I am old enough to remember the "whites only" signs on public pools, restrooms, etc. Is that kind of discrimination happening again, but to the disabled populace? Looks like Mr. West thinks it a fine idea. Me, not so much. But I am one of THEM.
11:10 PM on 03/31/2012
You are a bunch of tools. It's not so much about forcing these small business hotel owners to put in a lift that MAYBE 2% of their yearly patrons will use. It is the s**t-bag, ambulance chasing lawyers who will do the "drive-by lawsuits" of the hotels that are non-compliant. THANK GOD that we have men of HONOR like Allen West who will stand up and fight for true American ideals. Like the greatest President we have ever had once said, "Government is not the solution. Government IS the problem."

Allen West for President!!!
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19th Amendment
My vote negates your legislative vjj wand. :o)
05:06 AM on 03/31/2012
My dream sign next to our pool; 'No Republicans Allowed In Pool' (I don't have the courage to really put that up in this conservative stronghold.)

Democratic challengers to Allen West's Congressional Seat:

Patrick Murphy: murphyforcongress dot_us

Lois Frankel: loisfrankelforcongress dot_com
07:47 PM on 03/30/2012
After 26 years, I recently had occasion to visit the place where I spent part of 3 of the happiest years of my life--my Boy Scout camp ( I worked there over the summers) and I noticed that they had taken steps to make the facilities accessible to those in wheelchairs.
Now if I was a Republican, this would make me foaming at the mouth angry, because I know the cost of these sidewalks and lifts would be passed on to all the other campers for the next 30 years and all the able bodied will be have their liberty infringed by having to wait on some handicapped kid to make his way slowly into the dining hall or the swimming area. OH, the bother!
But since I am a liberal (and I would like to thank the GOP of making me prouder of that every day), these changes make me HAPPY because it would mean the circle of people that would have a shot at the pleasure I had would be widened and the world would be that much a better place for the increase in that joy for the handicapped kid, his friends and family.
Conservatives need to realize there IS a place where trolls like them would be happy--just look under a bridge in your average Brothers Grimm fairy tale.
02:02 PM on 03/30/2012
I do not believe the tail should be wagging the dog.
01:52 PM on 03/30/2012
What's next? Mandated lifts on all rivers and swimming holes in the nation?

The only thing I require in a pool is WATER. Everything more than that is an amenity; a hotel with a bigger pool, or deeper, or cleaner, is to be preferred.

Let those hotels that want to add lifts do so, those that don't take their chances on fewer customers.

Sometimes I try to estimate when the land of the free stopped being free, but the ADA was certainly a big step in that direction.

I will admit that not stubbing my toes on curbs has been pretty nice.
12:15 PM on 03/30/2012
This law is a good one but the real problem is that most state office, cities offices, country offices are in violation of the handicap laws which is even worse. They need to shut down all of these offices until access is for everyone.
01:53 PM on 03/30/2012
"They need to shut down all of these offices until access is for everyone. "

Shut down the whole stinking nation until everything is for everyone!
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medic628
10:31 AM on 03/30/2012
A true leader of men. NOT!
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Proud Progressive
danger may be real, but fear is a choice.
09:52 PM on 03/29/2012
You know, I can't help but feel that this guy has a few screws loose. Or maybe he is emulating his hero, and is vying to be the black Sarah Palin.
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sethplatt
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07:56 PM on 03/29/2012
The former disgraced soldier might want to take into account wounded soldiers who might require a respit or exercise in a swimming facility.
West believes in or just preaches social Darwinism ,a deplorable concept.
He is happy to spend money on killing people, but has zero compassion for those less fortunate than him.
I would like a congressman who has compassion for his fellow man and less contempt.
01:54 PM on 03/30/2012
"West believes in or just preaches social Darwinism ,a deplorable concept."

Your displeasure does not alter the reality of it. A nation that weakens itself through poor decisions will be replaced by a nation that makes wiser decisions.

If you do not know whether your decisions are wise, make them, see what happens.
07:52 PM on 03/30/2012
Do you think that maybe a nation that restricts access to things to just a very narrow minority of people that are white, male, able-bodied, rich and Christian is stronger or weaker? Before you answer, Stephen Hawking is probably the smartest person in this country and he has been disabled for decades. If you guys had your way, people like him would not be able to go to work, use recreational facilities, shop, vote, or any of a zillion other things without quite a bit of help and a lot of discomfort and wasted time. I think a more practical solution is for you guys to just stop being selfish jerks.
05:26 PM on 03/29/2012
Disabled does not mean helpless as some of you seem to think. I have had friends in wheelchairs with various degrees of disability. Both of them could drive specially equipped cars or a van. Ramps and a lift would give disabled people access they are entitled to under the law. All the arguments against access just show ignorance on the part of those who want to deny other people the same rights they have. The cost over time is minimal. Yes, insurance rates might go up some, but not likely to be excessive.
01:59 PM on 03/30/2012
"who want to deny other people the same rights they have."

What rights might those be? The only rights that seem to be at risk is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness -- instantiated in the First Amendment particularly. Freedom of speech? Hardly -- be careful what you say and where you say it! Freedom of Association? Hanging on by a thread; the Boy Scouts of America barely managed to keep this freedom. Freedom of Religion? Gradually fading. Speedy trial and habeas corpus? Zimmerman has already been found guilty by nearly everyone.

Having a servant to help you do everything you wish -- even if they don't want to -- has never before been a "right" for anyone! Now, suddenly, it is. But it was also the case 150 years ago when privileged southerners also had servants.

Is this some kind of flashback where every American needs to look deeply into his soul and find some sort of disability so extra privileges kick in and you have to serve me?
10:45 AM on 02/20/2013
were you smoking some seriously bad weed when you wrote that last bit, since when and how long a person with sever disability that needs a personal assistant has a servant?giving a person enabling conditions so the can be a part of society isn't a privilege, PWD didn't ask for their disabilities. its ignorance spoken like that in which your wrote that make it hard for people with disabilities like myself have our Human Rights violated.
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
04:56 PM on 03/29/2012
Allen West is the caricature that the GOP paints of Obama.
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John Wade
09:35 AM on 03/30/2012
yep.
01:48 PM on 03/29/2012
Jason, why don't you challenge these allegations? Ask West to produce the letters, and talk to the hoteliers' assns, and the particular one the Sun Sentinel cites, and see EXACTLY what their issues are.

And talk to the ADA groups, and compare notes. Who knows? some people may be able to find agreed solutions.