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First Posted: 03/28/2012 4:47 am Updated: 03/28/2012 2:31 pm


By Jonathan Standing

TAIPEI, March 28 (Reuters) - It promises to revolutionise television in the way the iPad did computing, and the chance to make Apple Inc's much-anticipated smart TV could explain Taiwan's Hon Hai Precision Industry's bold move to buy into 100-year-old Japanese firm Sharp.

Hon Hai took around a 10 percent stake in Sharp Corp, with the Taiwanese firm's billionaire founder Terry Gou putting his own money into a deal that marries Sharp's advanced TV technology with Hon Hai's expertise in making Apple products.

That could put the Taiwan firm in a strong position to push for orders to make the Apple TV, potentially taking the business from Korean rivals such as LG Display while furthering Hon Hai's aim to move beyond contract making and boost its brand profile.

"Hon Hai is already the assembler of Apple's iPhone and iPad, it needs the next driver, which is Apple TV," said Yuanta Securities analyst Vincent Chen. "It's something that Terry Gou cannot afford not to do. But this is a very big gamble."

It's a gamble because, Chen said, there is no guarantee that Sharp/Hon Hai would actually get the orders. For example, if Apple wanted to use the new AMOLED technology, an alternative to LCD displays, in the TV, Sharp would have to develop it because it does not yet have it.

Then there is the question of whether the device would be a big seller - not necessarily a given in the fast-moving technology industry just because other Apple products have been blockbuster successes.

The TV, said to be coming to stores later this year at the earliest, has, like most of the company's products, been the subject of much talk and rumour on Apple-related and other we b sites.

Likened to a giant iPad and christened by some the "iTV", the device could possibly have a 42-inch screen, and may have voice control via the Siri technology that runs on the latest iPhones. Reports have also said that Apple is seeking exclusive content for the device.

"We expect Apple to debut the iTV by the end of this year, and it is likely to adopt Sharp's 10th generation TFT production line to produce TFT LCDs for iTVs," Daiwa Capital Markets said in a research note seen by Reuters, referring to a technology that uses thin film transistors for improved LCD image quality.

"We believe Hon Hai will have better vertical integration in manufacturing for the Apple iTV following its stake acquisition of Sharp's (LCD) plant (in Japan)," the report said.

Hon Hai is the flagship listed unit of the Foxconn Group and the major manufacturer of Apple gadgets such as the iPad and iPhone.


OTHER BENEFITS

While landing the Apple TV would be a coup for Hon Hai, it also stands to benefit in other ways from the deal with Sharp, through increased involvement with Apple on other products.

Sharp, unlike South Korea's Samsung Electronics, is not a competitor as well as a supplier to Apple. That could give the Sharp/Hon Hai team an edge, especially as Apple and Samsung are fighting patent lawsuits that could th r eaten their supplier relationship.

Hon Hai may also get orders from Sharp for contract making of the Japanese firm's TVs as well as more orders from Sharp customers, giving it a further benefit.

"Sharp is also one of the suppliers to Apple, the deal will help Hon Hai to tighten its relationship with Apple and give a boost to its capability," said Jamie Wang, Taipei-based analyst at technology research firm Gartner.

" Sharp will have the ability to compete for Apple orders; with Hon Hai's involvement it will be more competitive because they can offer better pricing," she said.

There are other risks too, however. For example Sharp rival Sony Corp is also a Hon Hai customer, and said on Wednesday it would not make any further investment in the Sharp LCD plant that Hon Hai acquired a stake in and in which Sony also has a stake.

Hon Hai would also become a competitor to fellow Foxconn Group company and LCD maker Chimei Innolux, increasing the group's output of panels while demand still remains subdued and prices fall.

Analysts at Macquarie noted in a research report seen by Reuters that as the top shareholder in Sharp, Hon Hai may face losses from its stake and may have to inject more money into Sharp.

The Japanese company has forecast a record 290 billion yen ($3.8 billion) net loss for the year to March..

Shares in Hon Hai rose as much as the maximum 6.9 percent allowed in a session in Taipei on Wednesday, before closing up 4.6 percent in a broader market up 0.11 percent. Sharp shares jumped 15 percent in Tokyo.

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Thinking Conservative
To err is human to forgive is not my policy
06:16 AM on 03/30/2012
Hey Lemming . . . . . . apple sez jump off a cliff? I mean run out in front of that truck? Er . . . .drink some kool aid. apple sez . . . . . . . . . . . ?
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Channa
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
02:46 PM on 03/29/2012
Wake me when the holo deck is available.
08:03 AM on 03/29/2012
An Apple TV will change television, just like the I-phone changed the phone and the I-Pad changed the tablet computer. Most people, including myself, want an easy and integrated interface. I do not want more obscure options or 100000 channels or 50 buttons on a remote. I want an elegant TV that I can control with my I-phone. To all the Apple haters, keep playing with your hard plastic toys and medieval operating systems while the rest of us play with beautifully designed, simple, integrated products.
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jgeurian21
10:51 AM on 03/29/2012
Just because something is beautiful or designed well or simple or integrated doesn't mean it is better or others are worse. For example Apple lacks any HD capability for TV whereas Windows has PlayReady to allow encrypted HD streams from cable companies. Or how about the fact that Windows allows shared tuners with the extender capability allowing 1 central PC to stream/record TV for multiple users? Or what about that WMC on the 360 supports IPTV from U-Verse, FIOS and a slew of other providers? There is a reason why anyone that actually knows HTPCs, uses WMC. For one places like Engadget have ranked it one of the best products ever made by MS and has been the best HTPC for almost 10 years.
09:34 PM on 03/28/2012
Sharp?

The ONLY time Sharp has made a TV that's cracked the top 10 panels @ CNet is with the new 'Elite' model that's the most expensive unit for it's size by a factor of about 50%.

But even then, this is a bad time for Apple to be thinking about launching their TV. That's cuz OLED is here...sort of...and will become mass-market affordable within 18 months or so. Like the article said, Sharp has ZERO OLED research/infrastructure in place, so anyone ponying up the huge 'Apple premium' that any iTV will have will be SOL when they see the mind-blowing OLED panels LG & Samsung will have launched...at the same price-point or lower.
07:13 PM on 03/28/2012
Well, I would be interested in a sleek, unobtrusive, single remote, hidden speakers, disappearing-when-not-in-us media system, without a monster-in-a-closet control center. I know, some people like all their big boxes and dangly bits and flashing lights on display. NOT ME. I want elegant, reliable delivery when I want it. I want it to be intuitive. I don't want " have to flush the toilet to make toast" technologoggly.
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Pectin
Lie to me...
10:25 PM on 03/28/2012
"have to flush the toilet to make toast"

Catch me havin' breakfast at your house!
04:20 PM on 03/28/2012
Reading all these negative comments make me wish Steve Jobs was alive today. Just so he could prove all the naysayers wrong... just a few more times.
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Thinking Conservative
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06:17 AM on 03/30/2012
Dig him up!!!!!!
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George Cummings
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02:48 PM on 03/28/2012
Streaming of course has yet another likely fatal flaw. The internet itself doesn't have the capacity to deliver HD streams during primetime to everybody who wants one. People who have been streaming will attest to that. Some individuals do well..many do not. I personally just downgraded from 30 megabit to basic because it was doing me no good whatsoever. NOBODY has incentive to increase capacity to match need.. like your health club, everything these days is designed for average use, not peak.
02:34 PM on 03/28/2012
Companies have been offering "internet TVs" for almost 10 years now. Each one fails worse then the previous one. The public has spoken time and time again - we simply are not ready for "I-TV."
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jflorish
07:13 PM on 03/28/2012
We weren't ready for tablets. We weren't ready for smart phones. We weren't ready for internet music. Clearly, we're not ready for the tv either. :)
02:17 PM on 03/28/2012
It's not difficult to develop a really nice video client with a 10-foot interface. The difficult part is convincing the television and movie industries to license their content under reasonable terms. Lightning struck once for Apple, but Hollywood has seen the effects of iTunes on the music industry, and they have no intention of letting that happen to them.
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George Cummings
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02:51 PM on 03/28/2012
precisely. they are not going to let the streaming model succeed at reasonable cost. DVD is only dead if we let them go.. don't go 'media center and cloud' and allow them to remove the ability to buy it once and be done.
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02:03 PM on 03/28/2012
I already have apple TV. A 27" IMac does everything. What I don't need is my 27 inch screen next to my 62 inch screen TV hanging over it. Overkill.
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jflorish
07:14 PM on 03/28/2012
I'm interested in it .... waiting on getting a new tv to see what they offer first.
01:10 PM on 03/28/2012
Apple TV? iPass.
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George Cummings
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12:05 PM on 03/28/2012
Internet TV is all about content and the people that actually OWN the movies and shows do not like the streaming model and do not intend to let it succeed at any reasonable price. It just AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN.
Check out Amazon Streaming prices for a look at the future.. $2 an EPISODE to watch TV reruns?? Over $500 to watch a long run favorite series? No thanks.
01:37 PM on 03/28/2012
TV is ad supported. Those streaming episodes are ad free. Bad comparison.
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vidtrainer110
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01:44 PM on 03/28/2012
An inexpensive set of DVD's don't have ads. I know, DVD is a dead technology, but it is cheap and the quality is high.
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George Cummings
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02:08 PM on 03/28/2012
You'd hope the third or fourth time an already paid for asset is put out they could ease up a little. If Amazon is the model they're gonna price themselves out of a mass market for the streaming. If a dvd set is the same cost, you get to see them more than once, don't ya?
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02:08 PM on 03/28/2012
I don't know where you are getting your prices from but I canceled my cable -185.00 mo. and I have everything I want streaming. Somethings I want cost 1.99, but even if I buy 10 of them, I have saved a bit, and I get to keep them. Also streaming IS the future - it keeps expanding, AND there are more ads now on streaming to prove it.
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02:23 PM on 03/28/2012
i am getting my prices from going to the amazon streaming page and LOOKING AT THEM. i recommend you do the same if you doubt what im saying
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jgeurian21
11:28 AM on 03/28/2012
It is going to be interesting to see how Apple manages to sell this in the US. FCC regulations provided a minimum set of requirements for TVs sold in the US. For example for a product to be classified as a TV it must contain a TV tuner capable of playing ATSC/NTSC signals for either OTA or QAM. If Apple didn't want a set-top-box their could go the MS route and have an iPTV app (AT&T U-Verse/360), but that would require Apple to partner with a provider for content. Imagine buying a TV and being told you can only use 1 provider for TV? MS has the apps (U-Verse, FIOS, ect) and then an extender function for WMC that could have its own tuners so you have some choices. But then again this requires a PlayReady PC that handles the DRM instead of the TV or 360 and that is something Apple lacks. Going to be interesting to see how Apple deals with these issues.
12:58 PM on 03/28/2012
Very interesting! I speak three languages other than English, but now I'll have to add a fourth. jgeurian21, I understood hardly anything about your comment. Not a criticism, just wondered how far and how fast the English language will change this century, and how us old geezers will manage to keep up. I've made it through eight decades with my limited language skills, so I hope for the best!!!
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jgeurian21
10:36 AM on 03/29/2012
LOL....I hear you. TV streaming naming is about as obscure as legal language. Almost need a degree to figure it all out. I started streaming TV back in the early 90s with the first TV tuner cards and a lot has changed since then. Things were a lot simpler back then. Just a pair of rabbit ears and a TV tuner card and you were good to go. Now you need to now things like QAM, Copy Flags, and DRM.
02:04 PM on 03/28/2012
It probably will be classified as a monitor or display. Or perhaps an integrated PC...
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jgeurian21
10:40 AM on 03/29/2012
That is an interesting thought. The only real difference in a monitor and a TV is one lacks a tuner. Some people have thought it was the integrated PC route with an iMac that has a TV tuner card (EyeTV).
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Drama Llama
11:24 AM on 03/28/2012
55" iPad?

Yeah no desire at all
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jflorish
07:14 PM on 03/28/2012
That sounds pretty cool to me.
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bryanzth
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11:13 AM on 03/28/2012
The Apple deniers are in a long line here, eh?

Personally, most TV interfaces are not any better than VCR interfaces from the last century. It would be refreshing if someone, not just Apple, put their thinking caps on to make a much better way of searching, sorting and selecting media to watch or listen to. Thinking in terms of a numeric listing of cable channels is so 20th century.

I don't care if Samsung, Google, Apple, or IBM makes it... anything is better than what we have to use now. Well, I do care if Apple makes it, but that's my pref. I don't care if MS makes it, since that will only be the continuing saga of melodrama such as the Zuen (which is dead, of course), and I won't get stung again with a lousy Barbie Dollhouse interface such as that of the Vista series of OS's (any worse and MS will be taking us back to MS-Bob).

BZ.
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jgeurian21
12:35 PM on 03/28/2012
3 words, 1 product: Windows Media Center. Their is a reason why places like Engadget rate it as the best DVR-HTPC software on the market today and has been since 2003 I believe. Of course you have to know what you are talking about, which you clearly do not. Maybe you should broaden your understanding of technology.
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dwhuston
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01:23 PM on 03/28/2012
You are correct. My son and I both use it. It still takes a little effort to put the software and hardware together though. Of course I have not really looked at whats available for the last three or 4 years. DVD's are gone except for Blu Ray, I moved all mine to the media center.
02:02 PM on 03/28/2012
BZeun is stuck in 2007, which is the year Vista was released.