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CIA Secret Prison: Polish Leaders Break Silence About Black Site

By VANESSA GERA 03/31/12 01:45 PM ET AP

WARSAW, Poland — For years, the notion that Poland could allow the CIA to operate a secret prison in a remote lake region was treated as a crackpot idea by the country's politicians, journalists and the public.

A heated political debate this week reveals how dramatically the narrative has changed.

In a string of revelations and political statements, Polish leaders have come closer than ever to acknowledging that the United States ran a secret interrogation facility for terror suspects in 2002 and 2003 in the Eastern European country.

Some officials recall the fear that prevailed after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and defend the tough stance that former U.S. President George W. Bush took against terrorists.

But the debate is sometimes tinged with a hint of disappointment with Washington, as if Poland's young democracy had been led astray – ethically and legally – by the superpower that it counts as a key ally, and then left alone to deal with the fallout.

Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Thursday that Poland has become the "political victim" of leaks from U.S. officials that brought to light aspects of the secret rendition program.

In his most forthcoming comments on the matter to date, Tusk said an ongoing investigation into the case is proof of Poland's democratic credentials and that Poland cannot be counted on in the future in such clandestine enterprises.

"Poland will no longer be a country where politicians – even if they are working arm-in-arm with the world's greatest superpower – could make some deal somewhere under the table and then it would never see daylight," said Tusk, who took office four years after the site was shuttered.

"Poland is a democracy where national and international law must be observed," Tusk said. "This issue must be explained. Let there be no doubt about it either in Poland or on the other side of the ocean."

To some, it sounded like a long-delayed admission that Poland allowed the U.S. to run the secret site, where terror suspects were subjected to harsh interrogation tactics that human rights advocates consider torture.

"This statement is quite different from any others," said Adam Bodnar, a human rights lawyer with the Helsinki Foundation in Warsaw. "From the general context, he's kind of admitting that something is in the air. You can feel that this is an indirect confirmation."

For years Polish officials and the public treated the idea that the CIA ran a prison in Poland as absurd and highly unlikely – even after the United Nations and the Council of Europe said they had evidence of its existence. Polish officials repeatedly rebuffed international calls for serious investigations. The idea slowly only began to get serious consideration after Polish prosecutors opened an investigation into the matter in 2008.

A new breakthrough came Tuesday when a leading newspaper, Gazeta Wyborcza, reported that prosecutors have charged a former spy chief, Zbigniew Siemiatkowski, for his role in allowing the site. Siemiatkowski was reportedly charged with depriving prisoners of war of their freedom and allowing corporal punishment.

Siemiatkowski has refused to comment, telling The Associated Press he was bound by secrecy laws on the matter. But he did not deny the report.

The issue is hugely sensitive because any Polish leaders who would have cooperated with the U.S. program would have been violating Poland's constitution, both by giving a foreign power control over part of Polish territory and allowing crimes to take place there.

Any officials who were involved could – in theory – be charged with serious crimes, including crimes against humanity.

Former U.S. President George W. Bush writes in his memoir "Decision Points" that he ordered the CIA to subject about 100 terror detainees to harsh interrogation techniques, arguing the methods did not constitute unlawful torture and that they produced intelligence that prevented further attacks. Neither he nor the CIA have officially said where the "black sites" were based, but intelligence officials, aviation reports and human rights groups say they included Afghanistan and Thailand as well as Poland, Lithuania and Romania.

Former CIA officials have told the AP that a prison in Poland operated from December 2002 until the fall of 2003, and that prisoners were subjected to harsh questioning and waterboarding in Stare Kiejkuty, a village set in a lush area of woods and lakes. Human rights groups believe about eight terror suspects were held in Poland, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks; Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, a Saudi national charged with orchestrating the attack in 2000 on the USS Cole that killed 17 sailors; and Abu Zubaydah, a Palestinian terror suspect.

Poland is the only country that has opened a serious investigation into the matter, something which Bodnar says is a sign of maturing in this 23-year-old democracy, with prosecutors, journalists and human rights lawyers all trying to seek truth and accountability.

"Poland deserves credit for this step, as the first European state to begin to deal with CIA torture on its own soil," said Cori Crider, legal director for Reprieve, a British human rights group.

The Polish leaders in office at the time – former President Aleksander Kwasniewski and former Prime Minister Leszek Miller – have vehemently denied the prison's existence.

But they nonetheless have voiced support for the rendition program in principle, arguing that the U.S. and its allies were at war with terrorists after the Sept. 11 attacks and that tough measures were needed.

"I will always stand on the side of hurt women, children and the victims of attacks," Miller said in a radio interview this week. "I won't shed tears for murderers. A good terrorist is a dead terrorist."

Even former President Lech Walesa, the iconic democracy fighter, said he is "against torture ... but this is war and war has its particular rules."

Miller, the head of the Democratic Left Alliance, an opposition party, has been the main target of criticism by political opponents this week. Some even say he should face the State Tribunal, a special court charged with trying state figures.

Wlodzimierz Cimoszewicz, a senator who was the foreign minister when the site operated, said Miller should take responsibility for what happened 10 years ago.

"About a CIA prison in Poland, if it existed, I didn't know," Cimoszewicz said on Radio RMF FM. "But everything indicates that the CIA used a villa in Stare Kiejkuty."

Human rights lawyers and activists welcome the new openness.

"There is some satisfaction here," said Bodnar. "The most important thing is accountability. Intelligence agencies cooperate with each other, but after this they will remember that they need to obey the constitution and that some things they cover up could become public at some point."

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Vanessa Gera can be reached at http://twitter.com/VanessaGera

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the99pct
12:51 PM on 04/10/2012
This report talks about prisoners held in N. Korea. If you read the report, it is easy to ask where was this group when Bush ran Abu Ghraib and secret CIA torture prisons like the one in Poland? Talk about hypocrisy when it comes to human rights.

http://news.yahoo.com/more-150-000-languish-north-korean-prison-camps-124343396.html
02:22 AM on 04/09/2012
Documented war crimes by the Cheney/Bush Junta. Not to prosecute them should be an impeachable offense ...
12:25 PM on 04/08/2012
The POLES are heros in my book! They know what will happen if we lose this pissing contest the Muslims have started!
10:35 AM on 04/04/2012
It is a tragedy the Poland which so heroic resisted the evils of the SS, the Gestapo, and the Soviet secret police should have been seduced into abetting the crimes of the CIA -- an organization modeled on the former.
09:24 AM on 04/14/2012
they did not know and if ppl knew the general population would be VERY pissed...
09:47 AM on 04/02/2012
Is the CIA similar to the Mossad???
02:23 AM on 04/09/2012
Comrades in arms ...
09:26 AM on 04/14/2012
the CIAis by far the worst in the world, MOSSAD is a mere shadow in comparison, the CIA has dealt drugs to fund black ops, also it was them that flooded America with crack in the 80s
02:59 AM on 04/02/2012
For those interested, the top award winning Polish film of 2010-11, Essential Killing, by Polish new wave/avant garde director Jerzy Skolimowski was predicated on the existence of this very prison and the nearby airport. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1561768/
07:33 AM on 04/02/2012
yes i've seen the movie, gripping.

and is there any other bases like this all around the world not just in poland ? i mean american leader are so paranoid and decadent, they need to dragg the whole planet into their imperialist war and they see terrorist everywhere, i wont be surprised if each allied country had his own torture camp
07:48 AM on 04/02/2012
As far as Europe, apparently Rumania and Lithuania as well. Who knows where else? Skolimowski just happens to live right by that base in the Mazury forests.
09:40 PM on 04/01/2012
Good for the CIA. I hope they waterboard all the terrorists until they have web feet. I don't care.
08:01 AM on 04/02/2012
You look suspicious to me. We need to know what you know.
08:42 AM on 04/02/2012
That would be a good start but I'm not telling. Just wait for the surprise!
10:12 AM on 04/02/2012
There it is, folks: modern "conservatism". A sadistic fascination with torture.
11:05 AM on 04/02/2012
Because the MSM, the far left, terrorists and their American supporters say water boarding is torture doesn't make it so. Water boarding is effective. But you know that. emm emm emm
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cobry1112
07:24 PM on 04/01/2012
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06:29 PM on 04/01/2012
Has everybody forgot what is happening with Obama and Gitmo.
Oh, I forgot he can't blame Bush for that any more. Keep quite, keep quite.
09:42 PM on 04/01/2012
You can bet he will still try to blame everyone except himself for making such a stupid promise. Maybe folks will actually think before they vote this coming Nov. emm emm emm
08:02 AM on 04/02/2012
"Congress" is what happened to Gitmo... They would not allow him to close it. Cut off all funding to move it and basely screamed Not In My Back Yard.
06:28 PM on 04/01/2012
and obama will open his mouth ans say i did not know anything about this hahahahahahahaha!
01:29 AM on 04/02/2012
as he was President in 2002-2003 when this was happening?....
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HawaiiShira
He that knows & knows he knows is wise.
06:05 PM on 04/01/2012
George Bush & Dick Cheney did more to undermine democracy in 8 years than anyone could have possibly imagined. We cannot afford not one more day of those policies & Romney, inept in terms of his foreign policy bonafides, has surrounded himself with Bush Cheney cronies & advisors to help formulate his foreign policy position.

The Bush-Cheney agenda was an utter failure, leaving this country with huge deficits & unending wars. Romney would adapt these same abysmal policies. This nation cannot afford Romney.
06:22 PM on 04/01/2012
But....but they tell me its all Obama that did that.
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Budd B
07:21 PM on 04/01/2012
Well Said, Shira. The right wingers still have their heads in the sand when it come to Georgie.
06:00 PM on 04/01/2012
Good for Poland - If indeed there was a CIA facility there, then the Poles helped interrogate people who would just as happily bomb Warsaw as they would Washington. We are talking about terrorists, not peaceful Muslims. The type of captivity the terror suspects presided over involves unspeakable torture and beheading, wonder if someone would like to talk about that. Poland has a right to decide how they want to proceed with the war on terror, but at the end of the day, it's the same evil foe that Polish and American forces fought together against in World War 2 - this group just calls itself something different. No matter what, America and Poland will still be friends and allies, I just hope that this won't push the two countries on divergent paths to resisting the terrorists and keeping the average citizen safe - evil is evil, fight it any way you can!
07:35 PM on 04/01/2012
Then why do it Poland? Why not in the US?
09:44 PM on 04/01/2012
Poland has more water for waterboarding. And it's colder too.
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03:24 PM on 04/02/2012
Except for all those people who were found to have been kidnapped off the streets of soverign nations and tortured for no reason. How about waterboarding the real threat to the U.S., namely, domestic terrorists? How can you call them terrorists when there's been no proof, no trial, nothing at all--which has been proven too many times to be baseless.
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Mesure et Demesure
05:44 PM on 04/01/2012
Once again, the untrustworthy Obama Administration is hurting our standing in the world. I wonder what took the Poles so long after Obama threw them under the Russian driven bus on missile defense. Perhaps they thought the Marxists in the Obama Administration would change their minds?
05:54 PM on 04/01/2012
umm... this has been a controversy in Poland since at least 2008 - prior to the ABM missile defense cancellation (at least as many here in Poland were happy about that being cancelled as not - and the US now has Patriot missiles/crews here) - see this article from 2010 from the (conservative) Washington Times: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/22/polish-probe-urged-of-cia-black-site-torture/ Sorry, but this has been brewing for a long time and was not related to Obama.
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Mesure et Demesure
06:27 PM on 04/01/2012
Well, the state controlled news here in the US said that you no longer have any missile shield. If you say the Patriot system is deployed in Poland, I'd have to say I'm glad of that, as the Iranians are pushing forward on both missiles and nuclear weapons. You should be aware, though, that the Patriot system is an anti-aircraft system, and had to be enhanced to counter Saddam Hussein's primitive Scud missiles.

As an American of Polish descent, I am very aware of my mother country's vulnerabilities. And I am aware of he Russian's ambitions in including Poland in their "sphere of influence". While issue has been around for awhile, I wouldn't put much faith in the Obama Administration. As they are willing to forego the wishes of very close to 50% (+/- 4%) of the Americans' wishes, guess where Poland ranks among their priorities?

The Poles live in one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the world. I am trying to help provide the country of my forefathers an American administration worthy of their trust.
09:48 PM on 04/01/2012
It's no wonder the Russians laugh at Obama.

"Speak softly and carry a big stick"-----Roosevelt

"Speak, beg, whine, blame Bush and carry a twig------Obama
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So how did that one-term thingy work for you?
05:44 PM on 04/01/2012
Bush/Cheney might not end up getting off as scott free as they thought. :)
05:17 PM on 04/01/2012
Th e CIA is moving inland to Colorado for the new world order. Be Happy.
07:38 PM on 04/01/2012
From Mexico or Canada? Possible from a friendly ghost.