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Philip Zelikow, George W. Bush-Era Official, Objected On Interrogation View

Philip Zelikow

PETE YOST   04/ 3/12 09:28 PM ET  AP

WASHINGTON — A memo released Tuesday on harsh interrogation techniques shows that a former State Department official strongly dissented from the George W. Bush administration's secret legal view in 2005 that an international treaty against torture did not apply to CIA interrogations in foreign countries.

Until now, the February 2006 analysis by Philip Zelikow has been a high-level, classified, internal critique of the Bush administration's controversial interrogation policies. At the time he wrote his criticism, Zelikow was Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's representative on terrorism issues to the National Security Council's deputies committee.

The State Department released Zelikow's memo under the Freedom of Information Act to the National Security Archive, an advocacy group for openness in government.

In late 2005, Bush signed a bill containing a provision sponsored by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that the senator believed applied international standards of cruel and degrading treatment to U.S. interrogation practices.

However, a May 2005 secret Justice Department interpretation of the law exempted CIA interrogation practices like waterboarding carried out in foreign countries.

In his five-page memo, Zelikow wrote that the State Department earlier had agreed with the Justice Department's view.

But "that situation has now changed" in light of McCain's amendment, Zelikow wrote.

"Under American law, there is no precedent for excusing treatment that is intrinsically `cruel' even if the state asserts a compelling need to use it," Zelikow's memo stated.

"If the techniques, taken together, are intrinsically cruel, inhuman or degrading – i.e., if under American constitutional law they would be either considered cruel and unusual or shock the conscience, then they are prohibited."

It "appears to us that several of these techniques, singly or in combination, should be considered `cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment,'" Zelikow stated.

"The techniques least likely to be sustained are the techniques described as `coercive,' especially viewed cumulatively, such as the waterboard, walling, dousing, stress positions and cramped confinement," Zelikow's analysis concluded.

In an interview Tuesday following the document's release, Zelikow said, "I believe that the Department of Justice's opinion was an extreme reading of the law and because the Justice Department opinion was secret, the only way the president could hear an alternative interpretation was for someone like me to offer it."

"It was bureaucratically and personally awkward for a State Department official to challenge the Department of Justice on the interpretation of American constitutional law, but I had worked on constitutional law years earlier," said Zelikow.

Zelikow said that "the problem of the codes of conduct we adopted in a twilight war like this have been alleviated in recent years, but the basic issues are not going away."

The document released by the State Department on Tuesday was marked "draft," but Zelikow said it was in fact the version circulated within the Bush administration.

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10:53 PM on 04/09/2012
This raises the very crucial issue as to why the Obama White House decided that there should be no prosecutions of Bush era officials for torture, war crimes, or covering them up from Congress. And also why Eric Holder had the DOJ go along with a political decision that had nothing to do with the law. As a result, David Addington, Alberto Gonzales, Dick Cheney, and John Yoo will never see the inside of a court room.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/us/politics/24detain.html

http://select.nytimes.com/2005/11/27/opinion/27rich.html?_r=1

The real problem in regards to anything changing or history being told is that the Obama administration and the Holder Justice Department have granted the equivalent of immunity from prosecution to any Bush administration who engaged in torture or war crimes. Cheney, Addington, Yoo, Gonzales, are all off scot-free. Where is the deterrent to stop future government officials from engaging in the same sort of action?
11:48 AM on 04/09/2012
The real problem in regards to anything changing or history being told is that the Obama administration and the Holder Justice Department have granted the equivalent of immunity from prosecution to any Bush administration who engaged in torture or war crimes. Cheney, Addington, Yoo, Gonzales, are all off scot-free. Where is the deterrent to stop future government officials from engaging in the same sort of action?

http://www.salon.com/2009/08/24/holder_9/

http://select.nytimes.com/2005/11/27/opinion/27rich.html?ref=frankrich.
10:46 PM on 04/08/2012
Every Great Leader wants to know the pros & cons of every major move. I'm
sure President Obama has people giving him reasons why he should or should
not go into Syria, Libya &/or Iran. A leader who does not want to hear the other
side of a plan doesn't stay a leader for long.
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BRAINS4USA
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05:55 AM on 04/09/2012
Thanks for another clueless and baseless post.
07:17 AM on 04/09/2012
You seem to LOVE my posts.
07:24 AM on 04/09/2012
Stop calling yourself Clueless.
11:48 AM on 04/09/2012
Good point. Every decision is a double edged sword of sorts.
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HenHouse
WhoWhatWhyWhereWhenHow and how much?
10:00 PM on 04/04/2012
When does the Statute of Limitations run out on this?
07:24 AM on 04/05/2012
On a war crime? In case your being serious, NEVER!
People are still being hunted for war crimes from wwII.

In case your joking, five minutes before this memo was released.
05:21 PM on 04/04/2012
In a country with millions of people acceuillit period W looks more like Rome during the takeover of an emperor Commodus as well as the tradition of freedom that represents the U.S.
Congratulations to the various comments that reassure me about your country
A PEIT Vaud Switzerland
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Haters are my motivators
12:38 PM on 04/04/2012
During the Bush era the constitution was just a piece of paper.
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sugarmoes
what doth life?
09:07 AM on 04/04/2012
fact: dick cheney and george bush cannot travel abroad for fear of arrest. shame on the u.s. for not having the guts to arrest them ourselves.
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08:52 AM on 04/04/2012
War crimes! I love that Bush and Cheney dare not travel in Europe in case they are arrested and sent for trial. Torture is torture wherever it is committed...
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
08:31 AM on 04/04/2012
Has Beck (or Rush) ever followed through on their waterboarding offer?
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HenHouse
WhoWhatWhyWhereWhenHow and how much?
09:59 PM on 04/04/2012
nope, waiting for Hannity first
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demisfine
Often correct, NEVER right.
08:28 AM on 04/04/2012
How can it be that there are only 36 comments here???
This is huge.
Are we so exhausted by W's 8 year reign of incompetence that we can't stomach his name just yet?
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sugarmoes
what doth life?
08:23 AM on 04/04/2012
so bush/cheney were advised to not torture if it "shocked their conscience"? no wonder they went ahead and did it.
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bluewolf
Read about Operation Northwoods
02:39 AM on 04/04/2012
Philip Zelikow, Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, who limited commission members' access to classified documents from the White House (only two members were allowed access and their notes were then subjected to "administrative review") He also wrote the preemptive war strategy that was eventually used for the Iraq War.
06:16 AM on 04/04/2012
I also believe that a "preemptive strategy" tactic was used by the Romans, which justified their expansion when the Republic felt threatened.
12:15 PM on 04/04/2012
The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was a preemptive strategy as well, was it not?
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ttsgw
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02:20 AM on 04/04/2012
It was torture, and I believe that the kick Bush and Cheney got from it was more important than whatever confessions it resulted in. Any professional intelligence officer knew that these confessions were useless.
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Bushwhacked
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01:22 AM on 04/04/2012
At least he hat the temerity to offer the legitimate viewpoint, even if it was ignored by BushCo.
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Siera Griffin
College Student & Proud Liberal
12:46 AM on 04/04/2012
Where is George Dubya these days anyway? I'm surprised he hasn't come forward and offered an endorsement to Romney like his father and brother. I guess he knows it's not safe for him yet...
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ColoradoCool
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06:48 AM on 04/04/2012
He's riding his bike round and round his gated community and avoiding leaving the country for any reason.
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pmoschetta
Where are the Jobs, Speaker Boehner?
08:12 AM on 04/04/2012
He is still clearing the brush at his ranch in Texas like he was in August of 2001 when his own Intelligence was forewarning him that Al Qaida was planning an attack inside our country