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Obama Ignores Realities In Major Campaign Speech: Fact Check

CALVIN WOODWARD   04/04/12 06:02 PM ET  AP

WASHINGTON — Republican presidential hopeful Mitt Romney accused President Barack Obama on Wednesday of inflicting a "government takeover of health care" on Americans, even though Obama's law is closely modeled on the plan Romney achieved in Massachusetts.

Romney's speech to news leaders, like Obama's the day before, was a roll out of the head-to-head rhetoric that will increasingly define the campaign until November. Each aggressively criticized the other side and, in doing so, warped some realities.

Obama ignored divisiveness in Democratic ranks and his own political drifts when he accused Republicans of disavowing anti-pollution legislation and health care changes they once supported. Romney again portrayed Obama as a leader who apologizes for America even though the president has no history of saying "sorry" on behalf of the nation.

A look at some of their statements and how they compare with the facts:

ROMNEY: "The president's attention, it was elsewhere, like a government takeover of health care and apologizing for America abroad."

THE FACTS: Obama's law keeps the private insurance industry at the heart of the health care system and avoids a single-payer government system like Canada's. It seeks to achieve universal coverage by requiring insurers to accept people regardless of medical history, subsidizing costs for many in the middle class as well as the poor, establishing new markets for those who don't get insurance at work and requiring most Americans to obtain coverage, with penalties if they don't.

That's precisely what Romney did, first, as Massachusetts governor.

Romney argues that states have the right to establish an individual insurance mandate and Washington doesn't – a question the Supreme Court is deciding. But whether the federal law is found constitutional or not, it does not add up to a government takeover.

Even when fully implemented, if the court allows that, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates that 58 percent of working-age Americans and their families will be covered through employer plans – about the same as now.

In his world travels, Obama has said at times that the U.S. acted "contrary to our traditions and ideals" in its treatment of terrorist suspects, that "America has too often been selective in its promotion of democracy," that the U.S. "certainly shares blame" for international economic turmoil and has sometimes shown arrogance toward allies.

Obama's statements that America is not beyond reproach in its history usually come balanced with praise, and he is hardly alone among presidents in acknowledging the nation's past imperfections.

But these were not apologies, formal or informal.

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OBAMA: "There is a reason why there's a little bit of confusion in the Republican primary about health care and the individual mandate, since it originated as a conservative idea to preserve the private marketplace in health care while still assuring that everybody got coverage, in contrast to a single-payer plan. Now suddenly this is some socialist overreach."

THE FACTS: True, but not the whole story.

Many Republicans into the 1990s, and in some cases beyond, supported the idea of requiring people to have health insurance, even if they disagreed with Democrats on how universal coverage should work. Now that idea is decidedly purged from the GOP mainstream.

But until he became president, Obama, too, thought a mandate was a bad idea. In the 2008 campaign, it was his "core belief" that everyone would get health insurance, without the coercion of a mandate, if only high-quality coverage were affordable.

He relentlessly criticized his primary opponent Hillary Rodham Clinton in debates, speeches, ads and mailers for proposing a mandate, taking it so far that she waved one of his mailers in the air and barked, "Shame on you, Barack Obama," slamming "your tactics and your behavior in this campaign."

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ROMNEY: "The administration pledged that their stimulus would keep the unemployment rate below 8 percent. It has been above 8 percent every month since."

THE FACTS: Obama never said that he would hold unemployment below 8 percent if Congress adopted his stimulus package. The 8 percent figure cited by Romney, and many other Republicans, comes from a transition staff-written projection written by economists Christina Romer and Jared Bernstein that was issued weeks before Obama was sworn in and long before there even was a stimulus plan before Congress.

Romer, who went on to head Obama's White House Office of Economic Advisers, said after she left the White House in 2010 that the projection was so far off because she – like nearly every other economic forecaster – had failed to anticipate how deep the recession was and the extent to which conditions would continue to worsen. Their report was never an official Obama administration assessment or projection.

That stimulus plan, with a price tag of $787 billion at the time, wound up costing $825 billon. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has said that the stimulus increased the number of people employed by 1.4 million to 3.3 million and cut the unemployment rate between 0.7 and 1.8 percentage points. Economists continue to debate whether the stimulus lived up to its promise or was worth the cost, but few seriously argue that it failed to create jobs and many believe it helped to end the recession.

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OBAMA: "You'd think they'd say: `You know what? Maybe some rules and regulations are necessary to protect the economy and prevent people from being taken advantage of by insurance companies or credit card companies or mortgage lenders.'"

THE FACTS: As zealous as they sound on the subject, Republicans aren't proposing to throw out all regulations. Romney, for one, proposes changing, but not repealing, the Sarbanes-Oxley law that tightened accounting regulations in response to corporate scandals. He does want to repeal the Dodd-Frank law toughening financial-industry regulations after the meltdown in that sector, and he wants environmental rules loosened to spur energy production.

Even in the heat of GOP primaries, however, Romney wasn't talking about throwing out the federal rulebook. "We don't want to tell the world that Republicans are against all regulation," he said. "No, regulation is necessary to make a free market work. But it has to be updated and modern." He said as much Tuesday night, that "we, of course, understand in a free market that regulations are necessary and critical."

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ROMNEY: Obama "is destroying the Medicare Advantage program, eliminating the coverage that millions of seniors depend on and reducing choice by two-thirds."

THE FACTS: The Medicare Advantage program seems to be doing quite well. Premiums, on average, are down 7 percent while enrollment is up nearly 10 percent this year. About one-fourth of Medicare beneficiaries currently get their coverage through private health insurance plans available under Medicare Advantage. The program provides a choice of private plans that usually offer lower out-of-pocket costs than traditional Medicare.

Under the George W. Bush administration, the plans had been overpaid when compared with the cost of care in traditional Medicare. Obama's health care law scaled that back, cutting more than $130 billion over 10 years. Critics warned of an exodus from the program, but that hasn't happened, partly because the health care law staggered Medicare Advantage cuts to make them more manageable.

The Obama administration has also worked to soften the impact in the initial years, for example, by pumping in $6.7 billion in quality bonuses, most of which will be awarded to plans rated merely average.

There are fewer Medicare Advantage plans now than when the health care law passed, giving rise to Romney's complaint about less choice. But administration officials say seniors have an average of 26 plans to choose from in nearly every county.

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OBAMA: "Cap and trade was originally proposed by conservatives and Republicans as a market-based solution to solving environmental problems. The first president to talk about cap and trade was George H.W. Bush. Now you've got the other party essentially saying we shouldn't even be thinking about environmental protection; let's gut the EPA."

THE FACTS: Obama is right that cap and trade was a Republican idea – first put in place to control sulfur dioxide emissions, or acid rain, under the 1990 Clean Air Act amendments that passed overwhelmingly. The idea is to cap overall emissions of a certain pollutant while letting companies trade pollution allowances, essentially using a combination of the government and private market to make the environment cleaner.

But in recent years, cap and trade failed when Democrats controlled the Senate and the House. Moreover, Republicans argued the legislation was not a truly market-driven mechanism. It would have auctioned off pollution allowances to companies, raising money for the government to help offset higher energy bills and invest in cleaner energy technologies.

Republicans wanted a system that would distribute the allowances for free, letting the private market determine their value. That's how it worked with acid rain.

Republicans have not abandoned the notion of environmental protection, although the presidential primary rhetoric – all geared to more drilling and energy production – could lead one to think so.

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Associated Press writers Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Dina Cappiello and Tom Raum contributed to this report.

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03:40 PM on 04/05/2012
You "fact check" Obama and allow the Republicans to tell lie after lie after lie about him. Do you ever "fact check the Republicans?" You work for Fox, right!
10:18 AM on 04/05/2012
This post should go in the dictionary next to the term False Equivalence.

The press is doing a terrible disservice to the public by refusing to report any facts in an objective way. Look at this post - we've got outright, outrageous lies by Romney and statements by Obama that can be nuanced by adding some fine points and ambiguity. And he presents them as the same thing! Outrageous lies are NOT the same thing as basically true statements that can be nitpicked for a few fine differences.
09:30 AM on 04/05/2012
This isn't the same article that was here yesterday.
08:16 AM on 04/05/2012
@Calvin Woodward

If you were my student, you would receive an F for this post. You have conflated or misrepresented several of your responses. For instance, you say "But until he became president, Obama, too, thought a mandate was a bad idea." Yes, but not because it was "socialist overreach." He preferred either single-payer or some hybrid with a public option. That plan was much closer to the "government takeover of healthcare" that the mandate is mistakenly called. As such, it has nothing to do with the "constitutional concerns" that popped up once the President adopted the GOP plan. You say "But in recent years, cap and trade failed when Democrats controlled the Senate and the House. " But that is not what the President asserted in his comments. He said that cap and trade was an idea originally put forward by Bush 41. In the full AP version, you said that the President moved to "the left" and adopted the individual mandate, when you know that the mandate was a move to the RIGHT, not an example of each side moving to its ideological pole.

The infatuation with "blaming both sides" or presenting "balanced views" cheapens fact-checking. The point of fact-checking is to point out objectively incorrect (or correct) information that is being questioned or spun. Until the AP is willing to admit the sky is blue - even when one side says it"s green - people's trust in the media will continue to erode.
06:32 AM on 04/05/2012
I really like our friend "For Realz" comment:

"He is an amalgam. He has trampled the sacred cows of each side while patronizing the complainers. He has embraced the worst characteristics of each side while looking doe-eyed and shocked when questioned. He has handled our foreign policy in a similar manner of treatment; embolding our adversaries and shunning our allies. Obama's m.o. is vile and self serving. Whispering to the Russians to call him after the election, was not said with the "if" he wins, it was said with the aire of "no matter what happens with the election, call me mid-Nov.... I have power until January."

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06:17 AM on 04/05/2012
After this article, can we have one on Obama trashing Romney with his Lies?

You know, to keep it Fair and Balanced, so we can make up our own minds, who is the BIGGEST and BEST LIAR.
06:16 AM on 04/05/2012
GREAT PROPOGANDA for Obamacare - and Obama, HuffPost.

Have any of your journalists read the 2900 page legislation - known as Obamacare?

Or, are these TALKING POINTS from the WHITE House?
08:17 AM on 04/05/2012
I have read each page. What does that have to do with this?
09:50 AM on 04/05/2012
Now we can ask you questions about it.
10:11 PM on 04/04/2012
GAHH! Obama makes one of the most pointed, well argued speeches of his presidency. Factchecker McGee over here has the opportunity to say, "Wow, a politician saying things that are true and substantive. Doesn't happen a lot on either side. Nice work Pres. Kudos for the facts. Breath of fresh air, really." Instead, Factchecker McGee just farts into this breath of fresh air, ruining it for everyone.
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03:44 PM on 04/04/2012
If we are serious about bringing government spending under control then removing special-interest tax breaks is the first place we should start.

Without a doubt tax breaks are a form of government spending. As Howard Gleckman of the Tax Policy Center points out, tax breaks fail the duck test, “If it looks like spending and quacks like spending, it is spending– even it resides in the Internal Revenue Code.” http://bit.ly/GVrWuY

Removing a few tax breaks is only the first step in the right direction. Americans deserve full scale tax reform along the lines of the Bowles-Simpson plan, which would increase tax fairness and corporate competitiveness by lowering the marginal rate and removing tax expenditures. http://bit.ly/noTDPF
03:37 PM on 04/04/2012
Wow, every single one of your false equivalencies is based on the fact that the Republicans moved to the right, and then rebuffed Obama after he move TO THE RIGHT to attempt a compromise.

1. Specific points: Obama opposing the mandate was a center-left position. So Obama agreeing to the mandate was a move TO THE RIGHT, to implement MITT ROMNEY's program. Your ignorance on this point is inexcusable. Merits a retraction.

2. Second point: on cap and trade, to make all polluters pay for their pollution rights is to ensure that the market rights go to the highest value. If you give away the pollution rights to the current polluters, then you entrench existing polluters and in essence pay them billions dollars, because they polluted. Obama's -and the Democrats' - starting position was that all polluters had to pay. the Republicans insisted on free pollution credits as a form of corporate welfare. They succeeded in doing that in the acid rain wars. They were just repeating the RIGHT WING playbook. Again, Obama's attempt to compromise was a move TO THE RIGHT. Do you get all your "facts' from lobbyists?

3. Finally, you cannot talk about "regulation" in the abstract. Republicans do favor regulation, if it enhances the power of monopolists to set pricing and exclude competitors, or if it is so ineffective that they can say they favor it but it has no effect. In short, you have to do your job and deal with substance!

Better journalists, please!!
06:22 AM on 04/05/2012
Obama FAVORS regulations - with his BOGUS JOBS BILL - "pretending" it was to provide employment for the "little guy" - when it was to HIRE MORE EPA officials - TWO HUNDRED THIRTY THOUSAND more Bureaucrats - with an expanded Budget of $23 BILLION -

when the EPA already has 17,471 BUREAUCRATS - with a Budget of $10.3 BILLION.

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No wonder The Communist Party USA endorsed Obama for 2008, endorsed Obamacare, endorsed Obama's JOBS Bill - (when not One Democrat would sponsor it) - and The Communist Party USA endorses Obama for 2012.
08:29 AM on 04/05/2012
Your facts are simply wrong. First, regulations have grown at a slower rate than under Bush. Second the EPA officials things is hilarious... and not actually true. That was a figure put forward BY THE ADMINISTRATION to illustrate that they didn't want to drop in new regulation all at once because it would overwhelm the system. The Daily Caller started this false claim by using only half of a sentence. This claim has been debunked by every non-partisan fact-checking organization. As far as the Communist party thing, do you realize that many white nationalist groups have un-wantedly endorsed GOP candidates? Do you hold that against the candidate?
03:25 PM on 04/04/2012
What a lousy article and lousy excuse for "fact checking". I don't know where to start... the author compares campaign rhetoric from an unelected candidate to show how the GOP is pro-regulation? If the author can't actually find an instance of actual regulation being put in place to protect consumers by this Congress then he should just admit that the President is 100% correct.
The author states that candidate Obama talked against mandates for private insurance policies (see how relying on a candidates talk is not a god measure of policy?) then changed his mind when he got into office. As if it was some sort of flip-flop. But he didn't change his mind, he moved to the right to embrace the conservative mandate policy as a compromise with the Republicans who invented the mandate idea. But only a few paragraphs back, the author tries to say that Obama moved to the LEFT on health care!? When you can't even figure out your position in your OWN article, you should give up the "fact checking" business and go back to the editorial page, proof-read the obituaries or something more suited to your talent.
06:23 AM on 04/05/2012
"pezdrake":
It is all Propoganda - to trash Romney on behalf of Obama. It has nothing to do with Facts or Reality.
02:39 PM on 04/04/2012
wow! Major fact check FAIL!
02:32 PM on 04/04/2012
Fact: Obama is wrong.
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Hooponopono
From Maine to Hawaii
04:06 PM on 04/04/2012
And, it is proof enough that you said so, is it???
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Jehosafats
Modus Vivendi
02:09 PM on 04/04/2012
Dina Cappiello and Tom Raum, thanks for the strawman extravaganza.
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bobdob
Chug-a-lug, chug-a-lug
01:47 PM on 04/04/2012
Since Obama actually preferred single-payer (and stated as much on many occasions as senator), I'd say he moved to the right. But what do I know? I'm not AP, after all. Their job is to find false equivalency. My job is to ignore their idiotic nonsense.