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George Papandreou, Former Greek Prime Minister, Warns Of 'Vicious Circle' Of Recession

Posted: 04/ 5/2012 4:36 pm Updated: 04/ 9/2012 12:02 pm

Greek George Papandreou
Papandreou sat down with editors and reporters at The Huffington Posts offices on Thursday, April 5

NEW YORK -- Europe's austerity fever is creating a "vicious circle" of economic pain, former Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou said on Thursday -- though he still wants Greece to stay in the eurozone.

Papandreou, former leader of the socialist PASOK party in Greece, told The Huffington Post that the European Union is being driven by a "dogma" of belt-tightening that he describes as "too mechanistic."

"The European Union is very conservative now," he said, noting that the vast majority of governments in the EU are conservative governments, adhering to what he called a "dogma" of austerity in their approach to solving Europe's sovereign debt crisis.

According to this dogma, he said, "If you put your house in order and you cut your debts and deficits, everything will go fine, the markets will be happy, and so on. But in fact, that’s too mechanistic. It’s creating ... a sort of vicious circle ... of further recession because as you’re cutting, you have less revenue, and you cut more, and there’s slow growth."

Though Papandreou wouldn't go so far as to say he regretted Greece joining the EU in the first place, he said that countries joining the union generally should be better prepared than Greece was when it joined.

He also said he thought the EU should have been created with better tools to handle economic crises. Some of those tools are available now, he noted, including bailout funds like the European Financial Stability Facility. But he said more changes are necessary, including the ability of Europe to borrow collectively in the form of "euro bonds."

Germany, one of those conservative governments Papandreou mentioned, has vehemently opposed issuing euro bonds, while also pushing austerity for Greece and other troubled nations.

Papandreou stepped down as prime minister during last fall's nasty flare-up of the European debt crisis, making way for an unelected national unity government.

Despite his differences with other European governments and the pain austerity has caused and is causing to Greece's economy, Papandreou said it would be even more painful for Greece to leave the euro zone.

"You can't push a button and change currencies," he said. Dropping the euro would lead to a run on Greece's banks and a collapse in foreign investment, he warned, making Greece's position in international markets even worse than it is now.

Papandreou also wanted to talk about "lots of spots of light" in the pitch darkness of the Greek economy, including the reforms Greece has made and Greek entrepreneurs like the makers of Lambda olive oil, sold at Harrods and other luxury outlets as the world's most expensive olive oil.

Correction: Papandreou stepped down as the leader of PASOK last month. An earlier version of this post said that he was still PASOK's leader.

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NEW YORK -- Europe's austerity fever is creating a "vicious circle" of economic pain, former Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou said on Thursday -- though he still wants Greece to stay in the euro...
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11:41 AM on 04/07/2012
George Papandreou is a bold statesman! A kind of catalyst that uncovered greek pathogenic conditions in the economy and society, which is the first stage of solving them!
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stephan67
Eternity and a day
03:07 AM on 04/07/2012
George Papandreou is a failed prime minister . He was forced to resign by his own party . His popularity in Greece is near zero. I don't think that anybobody cares about what he says.
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Guvner Purry
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03:36 AM on 04/07/2012
I'm glad to know your opinion, it is very important to no one. Thank you.
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stephan67
Eternity and a day
03:44 AM on 04/07/2012
I suppose you have psychological problems . Everything you write is absurd.
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rtx47
06:29 PM on 04/06/2012
Viper: You should say that we need to underSTAND THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE ECONOMIC HIGH MULTIPLERS LIKE mfg or ionfrastructure, VERSUS MUCH LOWER ECONOMIC MULTIPLERS SUCH AS THE SERVICE INDUSTRY or especially DEFENSE...
We have an upside down economy where the middlemen of wallstreet/insurance went from 5% of our economy to 44% now.

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Well said! Not all economies are created equal. Some economies create wealth with a high mutiplier. Others, in the long run, deplete societies' wealth directly and indirectly with misplaced and displaced resources and priorities.

In many situations there is initially a growth curve; but the same trajectory can lead to a decline after achievieng peak efficiency. Unfortunately many feel if a little is good; a lot is much better. And then they creat their own spin to retain their perch and feather their nests.

Any comprehensive dialog in this situtation is difficult because some dialog about extreemes. As an example, surgery can be very good; but too much surgery is always detrimental and can even kill the patient.

So clearly too much of a good thing is bad. In many situations (like military) we have reached the point of negative returns and are facing the widrespread ill-effects of the unintended consequences of very good intentions and good beginings.
02:32 PM on 04/06/2012
Every country needs to develop a plan to balance population, resources, food, water, energy and jobs.

Sustainability needs to become better understood.
11:36 AM on 04/06/2012
What we need is direct democracy. Representative democracies are not working because they do not represent us. They represent the 1% elites who are destroying the world. The only real democracy is direct democracy. This is what we need to fight for. Elites created these fake democracies because they despise us, the great unwashed, telling themselves that we can't be trusted to make responsible decisions about what is good for us. This is arrogant, self-serving nonsense. An excuse for domination by elites for elites.
10:26 AM on 04/06/2012
But of course austerity measures have been and will be adopted by western political leaders because their job is to provide more wealth for the 1% even though our economies are collapsing. They have to get the money from somewhere, so it will be from us. Until OWS includes every citizen of the USA who isn't part of the 1%, so many people they can shut down our criminal government so they cannot avoid spinning our situation as better than it actually is.
10:15 AM on 04/06/2012
I thought Obama was our President , its sounds an awful lot like his work
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humanbeing-rick
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10:13 AM on 04/06/2012
"Europe's austerity fever is creating a "vicious circle" of economic pain" -- Agreed!
The recent popularity of the austerity hawk era is due to it's promotion by the shadow elite, who want to keep the people repressed and poor, while they set up their new world order.
Austerity only leads to more pain and more shrinkage.
Get a clue people!
iam99
To know what you prefer...
10:12 AM on 04/06/2012
The more austerity is agreed to, then all the more is demanded. Same as it ever was.
PROGRESSISGOOD
Without Economic Justice, There Is No Justice!
10:08 AM on 04/06/2012
Austerity only benefits the rich and superrich. Why else would the European governments impose austerity on their people.
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09:38 AM on 04/06/2012
  Another name for austerity is national shutdown of economic, commercial, business activity. The advantage of such desultory action is to provide poverty and destitution for the citizens and opportunity for the monied managers to buy up a nation's assets at bankruptcy proceedings and then wait for windfall profits.
   When nations come under the control of usurious lending and unrestrained monopoly, as with Ancient Rome. empire and totalitarianism  for declining centuries may result.  The human race is in deep trouble as an elite cabal is determined to turn the people of the world into a totalitarian governed  mold.
10:08 AM on 04/06/2012
aren't public sector unions and pensions part of the diaster over there?
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10:22 AM on 04/07/2012
In ancient Rome? Not so much.
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07:49 PM on 04/08/2012
No.  Public pensions and their unions are symptoms subsumed under monopolistic and licentious  monopolistic manufacturing and financial institutions (Wall Street and big banking).
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09:17 AM on 04/06/2012
Blame the Greeks for everything
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mountainweb
Conservative Commonsense
09:07 AM on 04/06/2012
All Papandreou is doing is spewing the stupidity of socialism, we spent all of our money and have sunk the country into massive debt and as long as anyone else has money, they should give it to us so we can continue to dig the debt hole deeper. Not unlike California by the way...
10:09 AM on 04/06/2012
sounds kinda like someone we know huh? hmmm
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
09:03 AM on 04/06/2012
95% of the world's goods are moved by ship. Greek citizens own 17% of all commercial shipping capacity.

Reference: http://www.amb-grece.fr/economie/la_grece_et_la_marine.htm (in French)
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stephan67
Eternity and a day
09:02 AM on 04/06/2012
America,bad paid jobs is your future .