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New Bush-Era Torture Memo Released, Raises Questions About What Has Changed And What Hasn't

Posted: 04/ 6/2012 3:40 pm Updated: 04/ 9/2012 6:43 pm

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WASHINGTON -- A six-year-old memo from within the George W. Bush administration that came to light this week acknowledges that White House-approved interrogation techniques amounted to "war crimes." The memo's release has called attention to what has changed since President Barack Obama took office, but it also raises questions about what hasn't.

The Bush White House tried to destroy every copy of the memo, written by then-State Department counselor Philip Zelikow. Zelikow examined tactics like waterboarding -- which simulates drowning -- and concluded that there was no way they were legal, domestically or internationally.

“We are unaware of any precedent in World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, or any subsequent conflict for authorized, systematic interrogation practices similar to those in question here," Zelikow wrote. The memo has been obtained by George Washington University's National Security Archive and Wired's Spencer Ackerman.

On his second full day in office, President Barack Obama formally disavowed torture, banning the types of techniques Zelikow had objected to so strongly in his memo.

But while Democrats are using the memo as evidence of a new post-torture era under Obama, human rights activists, civil libertarians and opponents of excessive secrecy say they see many ways in which the country's moral compass is still askew -- and in some ways even more so than before.

"If your baseline is the Bush years, it's night and day," said Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive. "If your baselines are a set of first principles, as the ACLU calls for, or as us openness advocates call for, then your situation is: Is the glass half full or the glass half empty?"

Obama has refused to pursue legal action against those who may have engaged in law-breaking under his predecessor's watch -- saying he prefers to "look forward instead of looking backward." To some, this indicates there is little assurance that the U.S. won't torture again in the future.

"The administration has clearly disavowed torture, and that is an important and welcome thing," said Jameel Jaffer, a national security expert at the American Civil Liberties Union.

"But they're steadily building a framework for impunity."

When it comes to issues like warrantless surveillance, "continuity is the rule and not the exception and in fact in some very important areas this administration has gone even farther than the Bush administration did," Jaffer said.

Most alarming, says Jaffer, is the issue of the targeted killing of American citizens who are terrorism suspects.

Jaffer said the idea that the government can mark an American for death without any judicial oversight is something the framers of the Constitution "would have found totally foreign to the project they were engaged in."

"I think there are many Democrats out there who are quiet because they trust President Obama," Jaffer said. But, he added, "there's no doubt that the power we're giving President Obama will be available to a future president."

Jaffer noted that another way things may be worse today than during the Bush era is that at least back then, many people thought things would change dramatically once Bush left office, and that his actions wouldn't establish legal precedents.

"We didn't worry so much about that because the Bush administration was seen as an outlier and an aberration, and the Bush precedent wouldn't have been seen as weighty," Jaffer said. By contrast, "It's not at all difficult to imagine [future presidents] citing President Obama in their defense of carrying out more targeted killings of American citizens."

"Now we're making many of these emergency powers permanent ... and bipartisan. We're enshrining these things into our permanent law."

Kate Martin, director of the Center for National Security Studies, sees some good and some bad in terms of where the government stands on national security issues today. "The Obama administration has made significant and substantial changes to counterterrorism policy as it relates to human rights and civil liberties -- for example, in their detention policies and their recognition of the limits of military power and the importance of following traditional laws of war in an armed conflict," she said.

And yet, she said: "The administration has done much less to fix the problems of too much surveillance, without enough good reasons, of too many people."

Transparency about what the administration is doing and why "is mixed," she said, with both "important disclosures and inexplicable withholdings."

Blanton, director of the National Security Archive, said he doesn't think it is all Obama's fault. He blames congressional Republicans for blocking Obama's attempts to close the Guantanamo prison, for instance, and the intelligence agencies for much of the rest.

"The intelligence agencies are at the front of the resistance," Blanton said. "They're resisting accountability for what they themselves did."

Ten months into Obama's presidency, White House Counsel Greg Craig resigned, a move some saw as a purge and grim sign for any hope that the president would keep fighting on these issues. Craig is known to have advocated strongly for Obama to hold fast to the principles that he has espoused in regards to dealing with torture suspects -- regardless of the immediate political consequences.

Where does that leave us? "I wouldn't call us an outlaw nation," Blanton said, "but I don't think we've come to terms with our gang period."

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juzcuz 10:40 AM on 04/07/2012
In November, let's all remember, when we're getting ready to mark our ballots, what it was like for 8 very long years with the Georgie Porgie regime. Cheney was the ventriloquist and pulled Georgie's strings, causing all kinds of havoc and taking our country into hellish depths. If Willard got into the White House, the ventriloquist would be his cult Mormonism, they would govern him and he would DICTATE to  Read More...
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LeLoup
Res ipsa loquitur, ergo tace!
02:59 PM on 04/25/2012
So much whitewashing, so much bending over in public from those who were interviewed for this story.

"I wouldn't call us an outlaw nation," Blanton said"

Is this guy trying to insult the intelligence of every reader here? Indefinite detention without charges or trial; assassination without any due process of law, surveillance without any judicial oversight, constant appeasement of the intelligence criminals, refusal to OBEY THE LAW (re; Convention Against Torture)...but we're not an outlaw nation.

Sure!
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Gail Cerridwen
04:53 AM on 04/16/2012
Terrorism suspects? That word has grown to such appalling size that it apparently obliterates all semblance of rule of law or adherence to formally recognized international moral codes.

"Suspect" means UNPROVEN charges and charges can so easily be leveled at anyone. As we saw after 9-11, hundreds of innocents were rounded up as "terrorists" with loud fanfare, then later quietly let go. Their real sin? They tried to exercise that famous "freedom of religion" thing by being Muslim.

We are STILL using rendition and there is only ONE reason for doing so. We just don't talk about it anymore.
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joeyfoto
“Écraser l'infamie!”
08:41 PM on 04/11/2012
War Crimes? What War Crimes? Now that you've got a new heart, Dick, can we fly to A'dam and take a train to den Haag? I'm sure you want to clear up these absurd charges.
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Zonie
Right & Left are part of a whole. Divided we die.
01:37 PM on 04/10/2012
In a nutshell for those who believe torture is an effective interrogation technique....or to put it euphemistically, enhances interrogation....

In case those of you so shaken in your shoes over the imminent threat of spectral terrorists dropping the bomb on you have lost your blooody minds and cannot recall our collective human history with torture over the couple of thousand years, let me remind you...

Torture....obtained confessions during the Inquisition...torture...obtained confessions from accused witches. Torture was a technique employed by the Japanese and Nazis. Torture is a technique that was employed by Pinochet in Chile. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge used torture. Torture was what you got when you were thrown in the Gulag.

Torture destroys the dignity, privacy, freedom and integrity of it's victims. It is a rape of the soul and is morally reprehensible and does not facilitate obtaining the truth.

So before those of you supporting it's use give a free pass to the criminals using it, authorizing it and condoning it...you better think about whose company we're in...that of Pinochet, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler et al.

Company I would prefer my country not be touching with a ten foot pole, let alone associated with.

And those on the partisan train....Do not forget that folks like Pelosi knew....Do not forget that it is likely the practice has continued under Obama's watch.
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christina444
One must tremble indignation at every injustice...
03:03 PM on 04/10/2012
How do you feel towards the groups that spew hatred towards the Jews...or African Americans?
Perhaps you could learn something from them...
and no one is condoning Castro or torture.
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Zonie
Right & Left are part of a whole. Divided we die.
03:40 PM on 04/10/2012
Well...since you're asking...I don't think that folks who spew hatred towards anyone...whether they are black, Jewish or white should be tortured.

But I am a bit confused regarding your assertion that I have something to learn from the folks who spew hatred. Please clarify.

As for condoning Castro...gee, I never said anyone "condoned" Castro.

But I'll put money down that people have sure as hell condoned torture in this country.
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
01:26 AM on 04/11/2012
Not likely Zonie, fact. From obamatheconservative.com " As confirmed by an Open Society Institute report by Joseph Horowitz, released in October 2010, and as reported earlier by a number of media outlets, the U.S. maintains a (formerly secret) prison in connection with the Bagram Airbase, operated by the Joint Special Operations Command and the Defense Intelligence Agency, where abusive interrogations continue. [46] As Scott Horton of Harper’s Magazine wrote: “The Horowitz report … helps establish that the Obama Administration brought change to the formal, public detentions policy while continuing the abusive secret operations of JSOC and the DIA.” The Red Cross is denied access to this facility, known as the “Tor Jail” (Pashtun for “Black”). [47]

The nearly 400,000 reports written by military personnel in Iraq and published by WikiLeaks confirm that U.S. troops, as a matter of policy, handed detainees over to Iraqi forces for torture, and have interrogated them after torture while they were still visibly injured. The leaks also document cases of detainee abuse by U.S. troops. The forms of torture used by Iraqis included electric shocks and drilling holes in kneecaps. The revelations prompted immediate and world-wide calls for investigation into possible war crimes by coalition and Iraqi forces under Bush and Obama, voiced by, among others, the United Nations and by Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg of Britain. [48][49][50][51][52][53]" Obama didn't put a stop to torture, he simply outsourced it. He's just another neo-con.
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Zonie
Right & Left are part of a whole. Divided we die.
01:49 AM on 04/11/2012
Then we agree. I said that it is likely the practice is continuing...outsourced or not.

Neo-con...yes. Unfortunately, his actions cannot bring me to any other conclusion.
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Zonie
Right & Left are part of a whole. Divided we die.
04:46 AM on 04/11/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZFeO2t4luQ

Says it all.
07:02 PM on 04/09/2012
Who do Republicans troll through huff post? Shouldn't they be whining on the Republican internet newspaper better known ad The Drudge Report. Go cry over there!
06:57 PM on 04/09/2012
Romney - Let Detroit go bankrupt. Poor people don't concern me.
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
01:30 AM on 04/11/2012
Your ultra partisanship is showing as usual. Just because most Republicans are horrible hypocrites doesn't mean Obama and a really lot of Democrats are not also. A pox on both parties. I will vote for Rocky Anderson in 2012. He is a candidate of both the Justice Party and Americans Elect. I bet most of the posters here have never even heard of either.
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Zonie
Right & Left are part of a whole. Divided we die.
01:52 AM on 04/11/2012
I haven't. Tell us more.
04:44 PM on 04/09/2012
Obama, like most Authoritarian Progressives doesn't promote an ideology of Liberty and Individual Freedom.

Instead we have ever encroaching Central Authority posing as helping the little guy .. via the Tax Laws, EPA, TSA, Justice Department, Executive Orders, Energy, 30 Czars,... by the time we get done .. everybody will be the little guy .. equal, equally poor and subject to the whims of Bureaucrats in the Central Authority..
04:50 PM on 04/09/2012
Get out the hip-waders... the BeckBot sofaparrots-of-silly have landed.
06:23 PM on 04/09/2012
Actually, I haven't listened to Beck since he left Fox. Whether you like Obamacare or not .. would you agree that it puts a lot of power in a Central Authority? ... limits YOUR power in the realm of Health Care ??

When he's done we'll all be equal, equally poor.
06:47 PM on 04/09/2012
Obama 2012
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
07:09 PM on 04/10/2012
Yeah Boshaw47, Facism isn't as bad as some people claim. I mean really, NDAA is a very docile and gentle plan. You'll love it. Rocky Anderson in 2012. www.voterocky.org
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Jerry Vasquez
A Unapologetic liberal
04:27 PM on 04/09/2012
The country had just rid itself of the bad taste it suffered under bush&cheney, but recent events remind us that additional mouth wash is required..
FIRST, cheney got a new heart at taxpayer expense.
The right so loves to reference, smoking Guns, well one has been found.
The hard evidence that bush&Co. lied about the war crimes they committed in our name.
Lets hope that should either of them leave this country to go abroad, some other country
grabs them, thus saving us the cost of a trial.
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Max Load
Politicians: What you see is never what you get.
03:43 PM on 04/09/2012
Didn't GWB craft (or have crafted) a memo/signing statement/or-some-such, that absolved him and his administration retroactively from prosecution for any "war crimes"?
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charleshbuchannan
My microbio does not meet guidelines?
04:08 PM on 04/09/2012
Like a magic wand. Hey presto.
12:04 AM on 04/11/2012
romney did it with his etch a sketch method
06:49 PM on 04/09/2012
Yep but you won't find that News on Fox
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dim
one in a can
03:31 PM on 04/09/2012
All this song and dance, when it's clear that the Bush administration violated the Convention against Torture (signed and ratified by the USA). Bush and Cheney both admitted authorizing waterboarding of prisoners and sent others to be tortured by other parties (both clearly banned). Meanwhile the Obama administration is in direct violation of Article 12: Each State Party shall ensure that its competent authorities proceed to a prompt and impartial investigation, wherever there is reasonable ground to believe that an act of torture has been committed in any territory under its jurisdiction.
04:47 PM on 04/09/2012
Yes, let's put all the Americans in Jail and free the Muslim Terrorists !!

Don't bother interrogating them, waterboarding them like in Navy SEAL training ..
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dim
one in a can
08:42 PM on 04/09/2012
Wow, you sound extreme. I suppose we could do that. But how about we just jail guilty politicians (to discourage further abuse) and keep violent fanatics in jail, just not torture them - it's better for own reputation and does not throw a giant brick at putting them on trial (what's extracted under torture is not admissible in court).
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dim
one in a can
09:05 PM on 04/09/2012
PS Budding Navy seal VOLUNTEERS know they won't be REALLY drowned, for it will be at the hands of our OWN, for training purposes. It's a ridiculous comparison.

You seem to be a right winger, so you should appreciate the actions of one of your own: Hannity. In a fit of faux bravado he promised to get waterboarded for charity. Olbermann immediately put up some money. More than a year passed, we are still waiting on Hannity. We EXECUTED Japanese soldiers who did it to our guys.

Interrogation in and of itself is not torture. Naturally they should be interrogated and I challenge you to find anything written by me that says otherwise (or anything about releasing perps or jailing all Americans or whatever your fevered mind comes up with next).

So don't put words in my mouth any more, keh? It just looks stupid.
07:22 PM on 04/09/2012
Dim - They have violated much. Too much to list.
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dim
one in a can
09:09 PM on 04/09/2012
Yeah, there is that 250 word limit. :)
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ehjay
VOTE DEMOCRAT & SAVE AMERICA
02:43 PM on 04/09/2012
Is America's excessive anxiety about terrorism real or is it a cover for some other purpose such as the creation of a dystopian American society? Is America being evolved into an Orwellian Oceania?.Daily reading makes it appear so.

As some people would say, if it walks like a duck, quacks,like a duck, swims like a duck --- It's a Duck.

Dystopian societies are recognized by their social control systems and forms of coercion of the citizenry.. When reading about Homeland Security's repeated treatment of certain American journalists, whistle blowers and anyone associated with them, the interception of personal & private communications, detention and search without a warrant, para military personnel "tasing" children and the elderly, one realizes that the seemingly phobic administration introduced by Bush/Cheney after 9/11, can have serious present and future consequences for the American people. Israel is an example of a dystopian society, a society brought about by irrational fear. imo. Irrational meaning excessive fear relative to the probable threat
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JazzyJim
Nuzis stay to the Right
03:54 PM on 04/09/2012
Republican's "Project For A New American Century" - which sounds like Old Imperial Britian. The PFNAC, courtesy of Bill Kristol and his father's "Heritage Foundation" a GOP PAC/THINK TANK on how to incorporate the successes of the Third Reich by using propagand and brainwashing the uneducated and fear based citizen into doing their Republicorp and Corporate Citizens bidding. Considering the GOP has done nothing "for America" - it's quite impressive that they've kept to the playbook and have convinced the easily mislead blind faith into believing they're helping - when in fact they're killing them and us for their profit cloaked in faux morality and faux patriotism.
04:50 PM on 04/09/2012
Ugh, can you say Annenberg ??
How about Move On ..dot org ...
Or "Center for American Progress" .. sounds nice doesn't it??

Let's not pretend like all nebulous Organizations or Corporations are GOP ..
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
01:55 AM on 04/11/2012
And now we have NDAA. By the way Obama wasn't against it as he claimed. He was against the way it was worded. He thought it took away some of his authority. Anyone who voted for it does not deserve re-election this fall. Anyone!
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02:38 PM on 04/09/2012
"The current administration, were it to prosecute Bush/Cheney for knowingly sanctioning the torturing of terrorist suspects, would paralyze this country due to political antagonism."

Hardly. They are no longer in power and the DOJ could have simply done it's job in our courts. It would have been fine and Obama wouldn't have turned into that which he campaigned against.
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Huah
Political-Scientist/Historian/Raconteur
02:28 PM on 04/09/2012
More incredible 'drek' from the Bush administration. And let's not forget the many military and civilian lives lost because of two totally unnecessary wars, and the imploding of our economy. But the biggest secret may never be known.
07:06 PM on 04/09/2012
Fanned
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johngary66
Accused of heresy and decided to go with that.
01:58 AM on 04/11/2012
You mean how Obama has stepped into Dubya's neo-con jack boots and actually become even worse?
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Bob Blinick
02:28 PM on 04/09/2012
The only prosecution that makes sense is the one history will provide. The current administration, were it to prosecute Bush/Cheney for knowingly sanctioning the torturing of terrorist suspects, would paralyze this country due to political antagonism. Obama and the Justice Department's decision not to prosecute means that he still has goals he would like to accomplish, like the continued economic recovery of our country.
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02:00 PM on 04/09/2012
When is jailing someone (citizen or non-citizen) without charge or trial going to be equated with torture?