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Dozier-Libbey Medical High School Grading Changes Has Some Students Asking For Fs Back

Posted: 04/11/2012 3:54 pm Updated: 04/11/2012 4:19 pm

What most students would likely consider an unsightly blemish on their report card is what some California students are asking to have back: the "F" grade.

When Dozier-Libbey Medical High School opened in Antioch, Calif. two years ago, students were graded on an A, B, C, F scale. Ds were banned from report cards in an effort to set higher standards for students, according to the Contra Costa Times.

Parents began complaining, however, that the rigorous system was so stressful that children were driven to depression. It was also negatively affecting students' GPAs, sports eligibility and ability to earn scholarships. So in response, the Antioch Unified School District retroactively changed F grades to D grades in cases where Ds would have been awarded without the policy.

But students like junior Prechous Hodges aren't too keen on the new grading system that introduces D grades, which they say is actually negatively affecting their college prospects, the Contra Costa Times reports. Now that Hodges' F grade in geometry was changed to a D, she can no longer retake the course over the summer in hopes of earning a C or higher. Antioch students can only retake courses they have failed.

But the no-D policy left room for other issues, like students intentionally performing poorly so they can attend summer school. From the Dozier-Libbey student handbook:

At Dozier-Libbey, we believe a student should achieve an acceptable level of proficiency to pass the class. Earning a D grade does not meet this standard. To this end, a grade of A, B, or C is needed to pass. A student with a 69% or lower needs to work with his/her teacher throughout the semester to develop a plan of what must be completed to bring the grade up to a C before the semester grading period. Students will be given an opportunity to re-do certain assessments to show that they have mastered the concepts and bring up their grade. If the work was not turned in originally, there will be no opportunity to re-do it and a zero will remain for that assignment. If the student does not complete the agreed upon work within the time required, the grade for the course at the end of the semester will be an F and no credit for the course will be received.

The grading controversy at Dozier-Libbey reflects a growing national emphasis on higher standards and rigorous coursework. Under a new policy in Georgia's Lowndes County Schools, report cards and progress reports will reflect a 60 out of 100 as the lowest grade, and teachers must offer students opportunities to retake tests and redo assignments until a passing grade is earned. The highest grade earned will be recorded, and teachers cannot record zeros, but can give an "incomplete" for work not turned in after insisting that the assignment be completed.

"Assigning a grade of zero is equivalent to giving up on a child," Assistant Superintendent of Lowndes County Schools Troy Davis told The Valdosta Daily Times in February. "In education, the goal is to truly learn the material rather than simply earn a grade."

The debate around no-zero policies goes various ways. Supporters say it forces teachers to coach students through material until mastery, versus ending a lesson with a test, which a student may fail but not have an opportunity to thoroughly learn it at his own pace. Critics frustrated with these policies argue that it allows students to skirt responsibility and when a student simply refuses to commit to learning or complete assignments, there's little a teacher can do.

A number of districts across the country have toyed with similar policies and have seen mixed results. Schools in Virginia have adopted variations of no-zero policies or guidelines in an effort to curb failure rates -- and increase student chances of graduation. Those in Tennessee are targeting lagging students, offering them more time and attention to make sure they don't receive zeros on assignments.

When school districts in Texas tried to adopt a no-zero policy, however, a judge ruled that schools are required to give students truthful grades under a 2009 state law. School officials fought back, arguing that prohibiting teachers from issuing low grades can help curb student discouragement and dropouts.

To appease the controversy at Dozier-Libbey, the district has made exceptions to their summer schooling policy to allow students with D grades to retake some courses during the extra term.

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What most students would likely consider an unsightly blemish on their report card is what some California students are asking to have back: the "F" grade. When Dozier-Libbey Medical High School op...
What most students would likely consider an unsightly blemish on their report card is what some California students are asking to have back: the "F" grade. When Dozier-Libbey Medical High School op...
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acumenguy
It could be carried by an African swallow
12:24 AM on 04/17/2012
Possibly the most ignorant, bass-akwards group of parents and students in the country.
foresure
Brash and Harsh
07:29 PM on 04/14/2012
Now here we are moving in a truthful, honest educational system.

The teachers have already repeatedly said that it is quite impossible to teach anything. So lets cut the scam.

We cannot have adolescents running the streets freely. So permanent dances, basketball games, movies and video games need to be installed in the school. We need to be sure that lots of junk food is available., and cheap ice cream.

Also private rooms with beds.

If need be, with parents' permission sedatives and salt peter can be put in the ice cream.

The teachers have already realized that the best they can do is prevent felonies in the classroom, they have long abandoned the idea of teaching.

Of course the teachers will be allowed to use all the facilities, and will be paid an appropriate some for keeping order.

For 90% of students, this would have no impact on their educational achievement passed the fifth grade.
01:57 PM on 04/15/2012
you have missed the whole point of the article...it was about students who were motivated by a possible F and would work harder for a C instead of getting a D grade which would not qualify them for college. The system was working. The school district reacted to a few angry parents and ordered grades to be changed going back 4 years. That was the whole point. Nothing else.
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Brash and Harsh
07:30 PM on 04/15/2012
Honor-N-Valor:

Yes you are right. We really need to go further. See if we can more D/F sudents into college. You are so right can you imagine the improvement the college students when they have more diversity. Perfect.
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Brash and Harsh
07:22 PM on 04/14/2012
Here's a way to save money and save all the disturbances in school

Give up the idea that teachers are their to teache. That means two things, then there need not be any grading of students, and of course then there will be no grading of teachers.

The money saving solution. Pay teacher $11.75 an hour for each hour they choose to work.

The compensation for students actually coming to school, will be a 'A' for 75% attendance, and a 'D' if they attend 10% of the time. An 'I' if they never attend.

Tha way teachers will honestly be paid what they are worth, children will not ever have to face any consequences, and paretns will leave the children along.

No more worries about teachers having abusing sick leave, no more truancy problems for teachers or student.

That eliminates all the mysticism about what actually happens in school.
02:02 PM on 04/15/2012
your response shows that you have not understood the original article. This is not some joke here. It is about students who find the possible F grade motivating to work hard for the C. The D grade is not an acceptable grade for colleges and could not be made up. The system was working and the achievement gap was closing. The district took something that was working and chose to listen to a small group of angry parents over respecting the data. They ordered grades to be changed going back 4 years. That was the point. Nothing else.
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Brash and Harsh
07:34 PM on 04/15/2012
Honor-N-Valor

Actually there is an easier solution. It would also reduce the terrible stresses teachers are under when as hard as they try, they some of their out of date ideas doesn't allow they to give all "A's"

If a parent is willing to come to a "parent/teacher conference", that shows that the child has such potential that the student should be given any grade the parent chooses.

Once we eliminate grading for teachers and students, we will have overcome one of the great problems of educations.
06:11 PM on 04/16/2012
The grade changes did not go back four years, it is from here on out, unless you know something we students do not know then please share, otherwise the D policy is from here on out.
08:41 PM on 04/13/2012
This school is a complete joke, and I hope more people are willing to see that. I hope this real honest opinion will spread of someone who believes people should really mind their own business. I get people will argue about if there is a D policy people won't try as hard, well If people do not try as hard it is on them, it up to the person to do their best, and a good parent pushing them to achieve better, not a changed policy, if I didn't have a good mother and father I wouldn't be doing great at all, which is called meritocracy and laziness, both being two words which this school is, and the students and teachers can be also. I hope this sum up my thoughts and feelings of a school that should have been thought up more before it began! P.S I had to split this up into three posts.
01:08 AM on 04/14/2012
If this school is such a joke, then leave.
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03:28 AM on 04/14/2012
here, here!!!
05:32 AM on 04/16/2012
Why leave? Graduation is almost here ;)
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03:08 AM on 04/14/2012
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08:40 PM on 04/13/2012
The people who do have 3.0's and above shouldn't worry about something that does not affect them in the first place! And by the way, the D rule has been a part of the Antioch Unified School District for a long time and after that school was established, almost 4 years ago, that proves our principal is an IDIOT! If people get D's which I know some do and that is the best and hardest they can try, who are people to judge and criticize them for trying their best and trying to get rid of the policy? Well the policy will stay no matter how many petitions will try to go around.
11:49 AM on 04/14/2012
totally disagree
08:58 PM on 04/16/2012
Why should we not worry about the future of this school? no matter if you liked it or not it still is your high school. What is wrong with students petitioning for no D's when that is what made our school different than the other high schools? We're proud out school is different and we want to keep it that way.
08:38 PM on 04/13/2012
Well to start off I am a student at Dozier Libbey and to get one fact straight the scghool has been open since August of 2008, not two years ago like the article says and In my belief the changed rule about the grading policy, I believe, was a smart thing and my fellow classmates who wanted to have a petition to start the no D policy have no lives. They spend all this time worrying about something that does not pertain to them. I know many people who agree with me that the D policy could have saved a lot of parents money from not having to take their child to summer school.
11:52 AM on 04/14/2012
your views are your own, however you certainly do not represent the view of most students at Dozier-Libbey
05:31 AM on 04/16/2012
I respect your view, and as I stated before they are my views but I also stated a handful of students that I know agree with my view also, the real question here is why all of a sudden did we magically start to have a D policy again? It is most likely because when WASC came to our school and interviewed the students, they got what actually went on at the school, and then we started having D's again. It was always apart of the AUSD policy and our school went against that. I hope this broadens your view just a tiny bit.
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Natalie Worlow
03:25 PM on 04/13/2012
I'm a teacher in Tennessee, and I'm not allowed to give below a 59. If a kid is actually trying and just doesn't understand the material, I don't mind the 59 -- it gives them a chance to fail without totally sinking their grade. However, when students plain don't do the work or don't try at all? Ooh, it pisses me off not being able to enter that zero into my gradebook. Kids have no accountability nowadays (and I only graduated high school in 2003, so I'm not an old-timer who's out of touch with today's youth or anything). They're going to have it tough when they get into the real world and get fired instead of being given a third, fourth, fifth -- ninth -- chance to do something right.
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tosc
11:52 AM on 04/15/2012
how are they going to get hired? they will mispell words on their application and writing short essays has become a common practice for employers to ask in order to get a feel for the applicant's professional abilities.
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Ariel Bonzai
Naked is the best disguise.
01:15 AM on 04/13/2012
These kids are smarter than the morons running schools now, I am so proud of them, and they deserve so much better than Micelle Rhee flavored kool aid. It's encouraging to see tem and some of the nations parents taking a stand about education. Our school are beefing stolen by the filthy rich but something tells me they've met their match in American students-- te good, the bad ad the ugly. http://newpol.org/node/485
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April Elisabeth Markov
10:32 PM on 04/12/2012
If life there are winners and losers. Just check out how Ohio State choked in the Final Four or, though we always hope, the Browns have yet to make a Super Bowl. School is suppose to teach kids about life. Making kids pass a test that has nothing to do with fixing cars, landscaping, cutting hair, or picking garbage (I respect my garbage men, all that crap they have to deal with) is bogus. What can you learn from these state tests? Nothing. Just that the state holds the schools money as ransom until the student passes the state's test that the tax payers have to pay for through levies that are unconstitutional. I learned about this practice back in 1993 when my school tried to make me take a class to learn how to pass the math test instead of geometry. My parents and I told the counselor NO. It may have taken 3 times but I passed that darn test. The state held out money for the school until I did. Let the kids learn a life lesson in how to come back from failure. If the school doesn't want them to re-take a course, have the course book state "This course may only be taken once".
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11:56 PM on 04/14/2012
I teach a "test prep" course for seniors who have taken and failed the 10th grade level math test four times. In the final semester of their senior year, they are placed in the class to give them the best chance of passing the test. It is not offered as a math credit any more. It is merely an elective credit. Of course if any of those kids wanted to take Geometry in its stead, I'd sure be their champion (since I'm the only geometry teacher as well as the only test-prep teacher). I think the problem with education, and comments about education is consistently compounded by a simplistic view of the variety of influences that make or break the act of LEARNING. It's too simple to blame any one cause. BAD teachers have their place in this, as do BAD parenting, unfunded mandates, overemphasis on standardized testing, and the gutting of public education through efforts to privatize. Anything for a profit, yes?
fisch123
For those of you who don't know 1T = 1000B.
09:31 PM on 04/12/2012
"But the no-D policy left room for other issues, like students intentionally performing poorly so they can attend summer school."

Really? is that a problem?
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XV8 Crisis Suit
06:43 AM on 04/13/2012
Apparently, yes. Summer Schools covers way less material. so it is much easier to pass.
fisch123
For those of you who don't know 1T = 1000B.
01:26 PM on 04/13/2012
I just have trouble imagining any kid wanting to go to summer school.
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07:39 AM on 04/13/2012
Yes.
08:55 PM on 04/12/2012
A new employee at my company was recently fired because of his inability to learn the job. He was a nice guy who was articulate and basically smart. However, he never figured out how to learn the job. The supervisors sat with him to train him the same way they did with me. He never took notes or otherwise tried to figure out how to learn the job. I didn't get the impression that he was lazy or unintelligent. It looked to me like he never learned how to learn. There has got to be a way to teach students and to motivate them to want to learn and to learn how to learn. Teachers aren't always going to be there to spoon feed information.
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DanInLA
09:12 PM on 04/12/2012
Our schools have taught students that it's someone else's job to teach them, not that it's their job to learn.
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06:43 AM on 04/13/2012
EXACTLY! I am borrowing that quip from now on.
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Lady Lithia
Etiquette and Protocol...
12:03 AM on 04/15/2012
As a new teacher, most common complaints I heard from my fellow teachers began with "These students don't know how to..." and then it was learning, studying, taking notes, etc. I took it as a challenge rather than commiserating with other teachers. I cannot change the raw material that walks into my classroom at the beginning of each semester. I can only make changes within my own sphere of influence. Over the years I've worked very hard to help my students learn HOW to learn, HOW to study, HOW to use the resources available to them. They will not ALL take advantage of what I provide for them. But rather than bemoan the gaps they bring with them, I work to provide them all with instruction on how to learn. I consider myself successful when they stop in to see me the next year or even years later and say to me, "My math teacher doesn't do what you do, but I learned how important it was, so I do it for myself, and it's helped me a lot" I do agree though, they won't always have stuff spoon fed to them... which I remind them about frequently during the course of my teaching them. I provide a template for learning that the smart ones learn from.
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Bill Jones123
08:51 PM on 04/12/2012
The D policy is the school's.

Plenty of very high achieving high school allow their students to retake course in which they got a D.

The University of California considers the retake grade and the originally earned grade.

In fact, the UC system would wonder WHY the student DID NOT retake the course.

It sounds like IDEOLOGY is getting in the way here of customer service to students and parents.

This school needs some firm discipline from the SDOE.

The rule is stupid.

Keep the D and change the repeat policy.

Administrators and school reformers are some of the dullest sticks around.
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11:01 AM on 04/13/2012
I agree. The desired outcome is knowledge of the information, not pigeonholing. Summer school retakes should have the same content, though, and not easier.
06:41 PM on 04/12/2012
I am a substitute teacher and I am constantly shocked by the number of students who do not complete their homework. When a student waits until the end of the term to turn in a semester's worth of work- it sends a bad message to students who do get their assignments finished and creates a burden for a teacher who must go through weeks of assignments making copies of materials and assignments, changing the grade-book and resubmitting final grades.
Egos are earned. Skills are earned. Driver's licenses are earned! Grades should also be considered earned- like your paycheck? Your boss doesn't give you extra opportunities to constantly fix your work, nor does he keep you if you fail to do your work in the first place. We set up our kids with unrealistic expectations about what happens when they must take care of themselves if we allow them to turn in assignments late, give an incomplete instead of a zero or allow them more opportunities for extra credit than the rest of the class is given,
Childhood is to learn to function as an independent person- an adult.We get 18-21 years to learn how to behave as society expects in order to contribute to said society. It is not for ego-stroking, pandering to laziness, making concessions and constantly giving extra chances. Bosses, spouses and friends don't accept excuses for long. Why should teachers have to?
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07:26 PM on 04/12/2012
While I agree in principal .. You asked the question "Bosses, spouses and friends don't accept excuses for long. Why should teachers have to? " Because it is their job . Teaching is about getting the student to understand what you are teaching . Understand most students who have trouble with school work will not go on to become scholars , but as the saying goes the world needs ditch diggers also ..be happy that a ditch digger somewhere knows how to multiply because you taught him how .
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Bill Jones123
08:56 PM on 04/12/2012
Baloney. Pure baloney.

I did not understand your post. Rotten syntax. Poor logic.

You failed. Try again, and you will not eat, drink, or sleep until you get it right.
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Bill Jones123
08:59 PM on 04/12/2012
principle.

Obviously your education was always someone else's responsibility.

When you make the reckless statement that you, you enable generations of weak minded students who want to blame someone else for their intellectual lethargy.

Brain research clearly states that brains mature at different rates and that young brains may not be ready for some mathematics and science courses.

Giving the students another year, or even six months may make a big difference.

Of course, what I am talking about here is science, and we know the edu-reformers and the right wing hate science. They do, nevertheless, love their ideology.
08:59 PM on 04/12/2012
I think it's important to, not simply penalize students who don't do the work, but figure out how to motivate them to want to. I know that you get students with a wide variety of personalities, abilities and home support. Some students are going to have more difficulty in school due to their own abilities and for some, add to that a non-supportive home life. Each kid is different, and we should find a way for kids to learn to earn their grades and motivate them to want to.
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DanInLA
09:14 PM on 04/12/2012
The more you motivitate students to want to learn the more they will need others to do that when they graduate from school.
05:35 PM on 04/13/2012
Motivation is tough when a kid has anything and everything he or she desires and a parent will not enforce rules about school. Teachers do adjust the curriculum for students who are learning slowly or need extra support. We also adjust instruction for high ability learners. We are willing to stay after school, help at lunch or on our plan hours to give students who are struggling the support they need. Many of my district's schools have after-school programs that offer not only tutoring, but a place to hang out where they get supervision and support.
But constantly offering rewards actually decreases the level of intrinsic motivation a kids feels to learn for their own sake, pride, ego...
05:51 PM on 04/12/2012
It really shows the character of people when their posts make fun of kids who are struggling with certain subjects in school. Once a bully always a bully, I guess.
05:43 PM on 04/12/2012
Please read this repost:
1. There is a lottery to get in, so DLMHS gets a cross-section of district students
2. The no "D" policy was working. The school API was 823 in 2010 and 798 in 2011
3. They received two California Distinguished School Awards in 2011
4. There is a no late work policy in place at this time
5. There is a tutorial period for academic support daily.
6. Students who scored below 70% received an F AND there is a safety net to work with individual students to bring up their scores to at least a C level after further remediation and hard work. Nothing is being given away for free. Students with an F desire to bring up their grades.
Dozier-Libbey is closing the achievement gap. 85-90% of the first graduating class will have met the A-G requirements. The curriculum is rigorous. The Antioch USD School Board chose to listen to a few angry parents who were threatening to sue and ordered the school to go back 4 years and actually change the grades that the teachers gave after the fact! Do you target one school that is actually high scoring in your district and take away one of their signature practices? Do you ever change teachers grades 4 years later? Are you getting the drift here? If you think this is outrageous, contact the Antioch USD School Board members in Antioch, California and let them know.
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Bill Jones123
08:48 PM on 04/12/2012
You are not special.

When you thought you were opening and running your own school you were wrong.

You are there for parents and their children.

If that does not suit you, then quit. We can find someone else to do your job.
07:56 PM on 04/13/2012
Again, careful reading helps. I/we did not open or intend to run our own school. This school is a pathway option, open to all students in the Antioch Unified School District. There is a lottery to get in. This school gets a cross-section of students who know about the high expectations before they apply. It is one of 6 pathway options but the only one with a waiting list. Yes, the teachers and administrators are there for the parents and their children, all of whom know about the high expectations in advance. The article was shortened on the huffington post website. For the full article see http://bit.ly/J9rtU8 The questionable action of the school district was changing teachers grades retroactively (going back 4 years) and imposing changes midway through the year without any input. Period.