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Pittsburgh Priests To Bishop: Listen To Laity On Contraception

Posted: Updated: 04/11/2012 12:29 pm

Bishop David Zubik
Bishop David Zubik of the Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh. (AP Photo/Keith Srakocic)

By Joshua J. McElwee
National Catholic Reporter

Several priests of the Pittsburgh diocese have met with Bishop David Zubik -- the prelate who said in January that the Obama administration's mandate regarding coverage of contraceptives in health care plans told Catholics, "To Hell with you" -- telling him his stance on the issue was alienating women and creating "a lot of anger" among laypeople.

The meeting took place in mid-March between four priests and the bishop and lasted about two hours. NCR learned of the meeting Monday through a fax sent from the Association of Pittsburgh Priests, an area group known to accept women and married men into its ranks.

The meeting was "cordial" and Zubik "took the time" to listen to many of the priests' views, Fr. Neil McCaulley, one of the four priests, told NCR in a telephone interview. He also said the bishop had agreed to meet in the future with groups of women and laypeople to hear their views on the matter.

Speaking to NCR on Tuesday, Zubik said the meeting was amicable and that he wanted to meet with the priests because "it's important for me to be able to respond" to their concerns.

The bishop also said he is open to meeting with laypeople. "I think that as many people as possible need to hear from me" on the issue, he said.

Zubik's January column, published in the Pittsburgh Catholic newspaper, caught the eye of some in the church for its strident tone on the issue of the health care mandate.

"The Obama administration has just told the Catholics of the United States, 'To Hell with you!' There is no other way to put it," the bishop bluntly wrote in the column, which was printed following the administration's first announced version of the mandate in late January.

That version of the mandate garnered protest from a wide range of Catholic groups -- including the U.S. bishops' conference, NETWORK and Catholic Charities USA -- who said it didn't include an appropriate exemption for religiously affiliated employers opposed to artificial means of contraception.

Since then, the administration has sought compromises in implementing the mandate. In February, President Barack Obama made a televised announcement of an accommodation for religiously affiliated employers that he said would ensure they didn't have to pay for contraceptive coverage.

In mid-March, the administration announced a "proposed rulemaking" and opened a 90-day public comment period.
According to a Catholic News Service report Tuesday, an internal memo from the bishops' conference released to the news agency said the contraceptive mandate "remains radically flawed."

McCaulley, who is retired after serving 46 years as a parish priest in the Pittsburgh area, said the idea for the meeting with Zubik first came as members of his group talked with others and decided "we owed it to the people ... of the church to let the bishop know that not everybody out there agrees with the bishops."

Pointing to a number of studies that show that about 90 percent of Catholics don't follow the church's official teaching on birth control, McCaulley said the group thought that since the bishop is "always willing to meet with priests," they could raise the issue with Zubik and ask him to meet with laypeople, as "we didn't feel competent to speak on women's issues."

Zubik said he replied to the priests' request that he meet with laypeople with, "'Why wouldn't I?'"

Pointing to a series of sessions he plans to host in each of the diocese's four vicariates, the bishop said he is will also meet with members of the diocese on a larger scale, "so that we can really listen to each other."

Those meetings, the bishop said, will also include a historical presentation on the issue of religious freedom in the United States.

At the beginning of his interview, Zubik first said he wanted to offer a "clarification" about the Association of Pittsburgh Priests, which came into some controversy in 1999, when it withdrew its membership from the National Federation of Priests' Councils, claiming the national body was too passive.

The title of the group, Zubik said, "is not reflective of what that organization is."

"As a matter of fact, the majority of people who belong to it are laypeople; they don't come under the umbrella of the church at all," he said. "I have to say that over the years it has a caused a great deal of confusion among people who think that they represent the priests. They don't."

Asked what he might say to a Catholic woman who had attempted to follow the church's official teaching on contraception but had found it painful or difficult to do so because of health or other reasons, the bishop would only say that he thinks "that really is an issue that's between a confessor and a penitent."

Saying he would "rather not want to mix that in" to the discussion of the mandate, Zubik said, "I think if we're going to address religious liberty issues, then we have to stay focused on what the issue is."

"Maybe we need to be able to do a better job of adult faith formation around the church's teaching on contraception, but what this issue is about is religious freedom," he said. "It's about religious liberty, which is guaranteed by the first amendment of the Constitution."

Zubik said he was unsure of where discussions on the mandate between the administration and staff members of the U.S. bishops' conference were. While the bishop said he knew bishops' conference staff members were meeting with the White House weekly, he hadn't seen anything official from the administration.

Zubik said he thought any comment on that process "has to come from the [bishops' conference], because they are engaged on the discussion and they know what is being brought up around the table."

Regarding whether he thought the tone of his January column impeded discussions with the administration, Zubik would only say, "That's exactly what I felt that the government said to us when I heard about the announcement."

"I don't want attention to be focused on the use of the word Hell as much as I want it be on what it feels to be dismissed," the bishop said. "And I think that's the issue."

"We haven't been heard. The issue is now we're being told not only do we not hear you, but that you're going to have to violate your own beliefs."

This column was originally published at the National Catholic Reporter. Joshua J. McElwee is an NCR staff writer. His email address is jmcelwee@ncronline.org.

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psnyder325
Yep, I'm a Socialist. Deal.
05:15 AM on 04/18/2012
The Catholic hierarchy does not listen to people. They believe that they and they alone speak for God, which is very different from ancient Christianity. Fortunately for the world, their arrogance and hubris will cause the Catholic Churches to be empty within a generation. A bankrupt Vatican and bankrupt sees throughout the world will mean a much safer world....especially for little boys. The sooner Catholic bigotry and dogma can leave this world for good....the better.
KenInd
We too shall get through this.....
09:49 PM on 04/17/2012
If 98% of Catholics use contraception, it seems to me that the Church's first duty is to tackle that issue before declaring war on Obama. It seems as though its 'teaching' needs a bit of a kick start.
07:41 PM on 04/17/2012
I am alarmed that in all the recent discussion about contraception, there has been so little discussion of the potential health risks.

The potential health risks of oral contraceptives are varied and many, and laid out in detail in the essay at the link:

http://allhands-ondeck.blogspot.com/2012/03/dangers-of-contraceptives-part-2.html
11:11 AM on 04/17/2012
Remember, we all have to stand before the throne of God oneday.
KenInd
We too shall get through this.....
09:50 PM on 04/17/2012
Indeed..what is the relevance to this story?
11:10 AM on 04/17/2012
You folks spending time in vain writing something against God's will.
KenInd
We too shall get through this.....
09:51 PM on 04/17/2012
Please tell me the Biblical reference to not using artificial contraception.
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psnyder325
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05:18 AM on 04/18/2012
He can't. There IS no verse in the Bible that prohibits contraception, abortion or polygamy (except for Bishops and Deacons). Most of what Christians believe ISN'T in the Baaaable. Even the condemnation of homosexuality is quite questionable. Would Jesus discriminate against LGBTQ persons? I'm sure he wouldn't have....
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pjlim
04:13 PM on 04/19/2012
Wait! Did "god" tell you that? You hearing little voices in your head? Indoctrinated much? How much does the Vatican set aside to help care for all of those unwanted children that the "faithful" believed that they were supposed to have but could not afford? Most of the writings in the bible are not the word of god but the word of men trying to maintain power over the people. Fairytales.......
April Dancer 25
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08:35 AM on 04/17/2012
The hierarchy much realize that the church's stance against birth control is the first step that many adult catholics use to completehly ignore church doctrine. The ridiculousness of this edict makes us all question and conclude that most of the vaginal theology of the church is just dumb. We generally conclude that the church is anti-woman, for all of their invocation of the Virgin Mary. I just keep telling myself that the hierarchy is not the church, we the people are. But my real problem is that as an American woman, I am not important to my church except as a mother. Or when they want something done in the parish, or when they need a singer for a wedding, or when there's a bake sale, or when some older person needs a ride to church, or you get the picture.
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andrc657
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10:17 PM on 04/16/2012
Let women make their own decisions about contraception and let Bishops spread the words of the Gospel message of love and peace and caring for the poor, sick and suffering.
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psnyder325
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05:21 AM on 04/18/2012
The Roman Bishops DON'T preach love, peace or caring for the poor, sick, suffering or oppressed. They live in luxury and spend billions each year on building churches while their people suffer and starve and die for lack of medical care. The small amount of charity work they do doesn't make up for their extravagant spending, or their ignoring of Jesus' words. If there is a hell (I don't believe in it....), I'm sure there is an especially hot place (or cold place if you believe in a Norse hell) for the clergy. I should know. I used to be clergy myself, but got disgusted.
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Conservatively Yours
Yes, some of us believe in freedom.
08:59 PM on 04/16/2012
Hmmm...a question for practicing Catholics. I'm so curious.

Is it against church doctrine for men to use condoms? After all, that is also an artificial means of preventing pregnancy. What about vasectomies? Are those sinful, too? Oral sex and masturbation? All of these are means of preventing contraception. LOL

Or is it just women's reproductive issues that are the target?
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kaykaythere
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12:44 AM on 04/17/2012
All are supposedly against Catholic Doctrine

What I do find interesting is that some fertility treatments are acceptable and even encouraged. The logic I was given is that if God allowed the development of fertility methods they must be good. But the opposite is not true.
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Conservatively Yours
Yes, some of us believe in freedom.
06:23 AM on 04/17/2012
Thanks for the answer.

Okay, so couldn't you also say that about anything that's been invented? LOL If God didn't like it, he wouldn't have allowed it to be invented. Why did he allow someone to come up with the birth control pill then?

Smh...that's very convenient logic.
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02:41 PM on 04/16/2012
The way to settle this question is to imagine for a second whether the sermon on the mount would remain intact if we would add a line on the subject of contraception.

Case closed.
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
06:43 AM on 04/16/2012
Please don't forget - women are for breeding and only for breeding. Got that! Sick!
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
06:42 AM on 04/16/2012
To give a person like zubik 'power' over anything is frightening.
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phal4875
The world is run by cats; we just feed them.
03:12 PM on 04/16/2012
Didn't he make a fortune when he invented that cube?
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invisbl
same as it ever was
10:20 PM on 04/16/2012
hehe cute :)
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
01:09 AM on 04/16/2012
The worst hypocrisy in this is the claim that the anti-contraception stance is based on "human dignity."
First off, there is no dignity in poverty, overpopulation, and breeding women to death.
Second, how could "dignity" be more important than the human misery this policy leads to?
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QueenoftheSilverDollar
Compassion is the root of morality.
03:14 PM on 04/16/2012
At the core of teachings of the men who run the RCC on birth control, is the attitude that sexual desire and the act of sex are inherently evil.

The Bishops can dress up their directives all they want, but peel away the mumbo jumbo, and all you're left with is "the act of sex is evil."

If the men who run the RCC didn't believe the sex act was evil, they wouldn't feel compelled tie it so intrinsically to procreation.
10:40 PM on 04/16/2012
"At the core of teachings of the men who run the RCC on birth control, is the attitude that sexual desire and the act of sex are inherently evil."

Where do you find that in Catholic doctrine?
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
07:44 PM on 04/17/2012
I know. That is why I call it the most revolting hypocrisy--they want to pay for feeling righteous with other people's misery
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kaykaythere
Game of Global ThermoNuclear NukeATroll anyone?
12:46 AM on 04/17/2012
The dignity comes from having to be thankful you are not in worse position. The very poor feel they are fulfilling a destiny, and are being brought closer to God through their struggles.

(I was very poor as a child, and this is what I was taught)
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
07:45 PM on 04/17/2012
Me too--but as I grew up, I began to have too much respect for God to buy into that warped logic.
06:26 PM on 04/14/2012
Abortion is so unimportant it is not even mentioned in the Bible. Life does NOT begin at conception. On the very first page of the Bible, in Genesis, it says that when Adam was fully formed, God “breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” Fake Fundamentalists can take some obscure verse and twist it however they want, but the Bible clearly says it is only after taking that first breath after birth, that one becomes a human.
El Justiciero
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06:44 PM on 04/16/2012
OOoh, I'll have to remember that one!
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kaykaythere
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12:47 AM on 04/17/2012
There are also statments about the first quickening... (movement) but no one ever preaches those doctrimes. Now woman can be pregnant 2 weeks before we can possibly be pregnant.
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JShankel
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06:32 PM on 04/13/2012
The church pays their employees, yes?  And money can be used for all kinds of sinful purposes, yes?  Okay, then what's your beef with insurance?
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
09:41 AM on 04/13/2012
The Boys of Rome have a great deal of catching up to do; in order to keep up with their flock.