iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Sam Stein
GET UPDATES FROM Sam:

Mitt Romney And The NRA: A 'Diss' Before Courtship

Posted: 04/12/2012 8:00 pm

Romney Nra
Mitt Romney signs legislation to extend the Massachusetts' ban on assault weapons on July 1, 2004.

WASHINGTON -- Two hours before then-Gov. Mitt Romney was to sign a bill outlawing assault weapons and small handguns in Massachusetts, John Rosenthal, a leading gun control advocate, received an unexpected phone call.

Rosenthal had worked with statehouse leaders on the legislation, which would replace the expiring federal assault weapons ban. Through all that time, he had never had a conversation with the governor. He wasn't even sure if Romney would sign the bill into law. Now, without warning, Rosenthal had the governor's spokesman Eric Ferhnstrom on the phone asking if he'd attend the signing ceremony.

Rosenthal scrambled. He arrived at the statehouse 30 minutes before the ceremony, met with Ferhnstrom -- who remains Romney's top communications hand -- and was notified that he would be standing behind the governor on the podium and allowed to speak. What happened next remains a subject of contention for those in attendance.

Minutes before the bill signing, Romney's staff tore down a sign listing the name of Jim Wallace, an official with the National Rifle Association-affiliated Gun Owners' Action League and the top gun rights advocate in the state. In its place, they installed a Rosenthal placard.

"The National Rifle Association and Jim Wallace were completely dissed," Rosenthal told The Huffington Post." Romney "shook my hand, thanked me for being there and for my leadership, and he listened to my remarks in which, frankly, I applauded him for signing the bill."

The moment would mark a high point in the relationship between Romney and gun control advocates. Within a year, Romney would designate May 7 "Rights To Bear Arms" day in Massachusetts. A year after that, he became a lifetime member of the NRA. Around that time, he began plotting a presidential campaign that required him to bolster his support among Second Amendment enthusiasts. From there, the schism grew wider.

On Friday, Romney will appear as the de-facto Republican presidential nominee before the NRA annual convention in St. Louis, delivering what's expected to be a full-throated endorsement for the organization's objectives. He will get a strong reception. The NRA has no alternative candidate to back.

Still, the speech will not be without underlying tension. More than any other constituency, save the anti-abortion crowd, gun owners have proved difficult for Romney to court.

The trajectory of that courtship provides as clear an example as any into Romney's own evolution -- from a professed moderate to a self-described "severely" conservative lawmaker. It also underscores the difficulties that the Massachusetts Republican continues to face among key portions of the GOP political base. After all, the ideological distance Romney travelled was fairly vast.

During his failed Senate campaign in 1994, Romney came out in favor of the Brady Bill, a Clinton-era touchstone for gun-control advocates, and a ban on specific assault weapons. To the chagrin of gun owners, he bluntly declared, "I don't line up with the NRA."

In his second run for office, the framing was similar. On his 2002, gubernatorial campaign website, Romney declared his support for "the strict enforcement of gun laws" as well as "the federal assault weapons ban." The website covered all bases, noting that "Mitt also believes in the rights of those who hunt to responsibly own and use firearms." But the campaign left the impression that Romney appreciated Massachusetts' famously tight gun laws.

"I won't chip away at them," he said. "I believe they protect us and provide for our safety."

The candidate who exhibited no fear in standing up to the gun lobby quickly showed those same traits in office. In his 2003 budget, Romney proposed tripling fees for gun owners to obtain ID cards for firearms and to obtain a license to carry a firearm. The legislature went further, quadrupling them. That same budget proposed eliminating "minor funds" in the state accounting system, including the Inland Fisheries and Game fund, a near-and-dear agency for hunters and fishermen.

It wouldn't take long for Romney and the gun rights lobby to clash. Gun owners quickly formed a group to protect the Fisheries and Game fund and ultimately won its reinstatement. They also complained loudly about the increased fees.

"It's not a service," Jim Wallace told the Boston Globe in February 2003. "It's a tax on your rights. We're not getting anything."

The frictions continued. With the federal assault weapons ban set to expire in 2004, members of the legislature pushed a copy of the ban in Massachusetts. No other state had enacted its own ban. And while Romney, according to Rosenthal, wasn't active in shepherding it through the statehouse, he was perfectly comfortable cheering its passage.

"I believe the people should have the right to bear arms, but I don't believe that we have to have assault weapons as part of our personal arsenal," Romney told Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes during an August 2004 taping of their Fox News show.

The law included provisions designed to appeal to Massachusetts gun owners. But it received a tough reception nationally and, to this day, the signing ceremony snafu with Wallace remains a sore spot for those involved. A spokesman for the Gun Owners’ Action League refused to answer questions about the law, referring The Huffington Post to the group's website. That site, included a defense of the bill -- insisting that it was "completely wrong" to call it an extension of the assault weapons ban -- along with an oddly-phrased excuse for Romney's past statements.

"Unfortunately for the governor, someone had also wrongly briefed him about the bill," the Gun Owners' Action League site reads. "As a result the Lt. Governor and the Governor made statements at the bill signing ceremony that angered GOAL members."

As Romney embarked on his first run in the GOP presidential primary, it became clear just how enraged those advocates were. Romney struggled to sell himself either as a born-again Second Amendment champion or an authentic gun-rights advocate. But it wasn't for lack of trying. Romney declined to stand by his support for the Brady Bill. He joined the NRA in 2006 and began talking about his own hunting exploits, often awkwardly. In 2007, he appeared at the Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor Trade Show with Wayne LaPierre, the NRA leader. Around that time, Romney bought two shotguns, his campaign said in February.

During a January 2008 debate at Florida Atlantic University, Romney declared there was no need for new legislation "of an assault weapon-ban nature" or dealing with "semiautomatic weapons." He's continued his courtship of gun owners since then. In 2011, he delivered a video address to the NRA's annual conference.

This year, the NRA address will be in person.

"It is no more complicated than the fact that he is untrustworthy," Rosenthal said of Romney, who he praised in 2004. "His positions on any issue are going to change according to his audience. That's his history."

Ferhnstrom did not return a request for comment on that 2004 bill-signing. But in a statement to the Associated Press, Romney spokesman Ryan Williams declared that Romney has "always supported the Second Amendment and as president would continue to support the Second Amendment."

In the end, the most effective move Romney made to dispense with the skepticism was locking up the Republican presidential nomination. Few figures in politics engender as much paranoia from the gun rights lobby as President Barack Obama, whose administration has made minimal attempts to tinker with gun laws, even after gun-related violence that includes the maiming of former Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in a mass killing. Faced with a choice, even those chaffed by Romney during his time as governor are willing to let bygones be just that.

"I'm willing to give him a chance on these issues because I think his heart is much closer to being in the right place then the other guy," Henry Dane, president of the Concord Rod & Gun Club in Massachusetts, said with respect to a Romney vs. Obama match-up.

Do you trust him? That's what HuffPost asked Donald Christie, a firearms instructor in West Springfield, Mass.

"I trust him a lot more than Obama," Christie replied. "From what I've gathered ... I think he's going to go with the flow -- with what's popular. He's going to go where the votes are."

FOLLOW POLITICS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Hill newsletter!
WASHINGTON -- Two hours before then-Gov. Mitt Romney was to sign a bill outlawing assault weapons and small handguns in Massachusetts, John Rosenthal, a leading gun control advocate, received an unexp...
WASHINGTON -- Two hours before then-Gov. Mitt Romney was to sign a bill outlawing assault weapons and small handguns in Massachusetts, John Rosenthal, a leading gun control advocate, received an unexp...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 3,669
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Post Comment Preview Comment
To reply to a Comment: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to.
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Bloggers
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (60 total)
  1 of 2  
COMMUNITY PUNDITS
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
outlandish 10:06 AM on 04/13/2012
2002: My positions won't make me the hero of the NRAMitt Romney. When he ran for the Senate and for governor, he supported a ban on assault rifles and the Brady Bill's five-day waiting period for gun purchases. He proudly said those positions wouldn't make him "the hero of the NRA." As governor, he made Massachusetts the first state to permanently ban assault weapons. He has even flip-flopped  Read More...
07:20 PM on 08/25/2012
I think that the gun owners can trust Romney to remain pro-gun and pro-wealthy and anti-middle class. After all, that's where the money is and that's what he's all about. Besides, the NRA set its objective to defeat Obama before they even knew who might run against him.
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
12:57 PM on 04/17/2012
Hey Republicans,

Good luck trusting that Romney will keep his word on the Second Amendment, since he has repeatedly contradicted his word multiple times, pro-gun and anti-gun.

"Minutes before the bill signing, Romney's staff tore down a sign listing the name of Jim Wallace, an official with the National Rifle Association-affiliated Gun Owners' Action League and the top gun rights advocate in the state. In its place, they installed a Rosenthal placard.

"The National Rifle Association and Jim Wallace were completely dissed," Rosenthal told The Huffington Post."
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
12:43 PM on 04/17/2012
Moved from below, for everyone's entertainment about Michael Staker

Michael Staker: "You folks will always twist things"

1) Prove it with facts. Or fail

2) Who is "you folks"? People who post actual facts?

"and will always find some fault."

3) And we point out the fault with FACTS. Why does proving Romney's LIES with FACTS disturb you so?

"-you have been attacking free market and American freedom and principles for some time"

4) Prove it. WIth facts. Or FAIL!

"you... now are attacking Motherhood!!!"

5) Prove I have attacked motherhood. LOL! Fox "News" talking point FAIL!

"It's NOT just about guns--as Romney said in the speech, it's about FREEDOM!"

6) Too bad for you that your Romney has supported the Brady Bill and the 5 day waiting period.

7) Were you also aware that this self-proclaimed champion of Second Amendment FREEDOM signed the nation’s first permanent ban on assault weapons while governor of Massachusetts?

8) Were you aware that the Romney campaign can’t name any specific gun laws that Obama has proposed?

"It's ECONOMIC FREEDOM, it's RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, it's PERSONAL FREEDOM. They are ALL under attack under the Obama administration"

9) Prove it with facts or FAIL
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
12:39 PM on 04/17/2012
Moved from below, for everyone's entertainment about patriotAZ:

“"and the "flexibility" Obama confessed he would have this next time around to Russian president"

10) What's wrong with that? Lots of Presidents have more flexibility after obstructionist in Congress get voted out.

"-along with everything else he has SAID and DONE (or NOT said and NOT done) shows us that HE is the one who does not keep his word"

11) That's a fact-free claim. Prove it with facts or FAIL!

"where is the "HOPE" he promised?"

12) As promised, Obama got bin Laden, got Al Qaeda leaders by focusing on Afghanistan and the Pakistan border, stopped the GOP job losses, added millions of jobs, ended the recession, ended the Iraq war, saved the US auto industry, re-regulated the banks and Wall Street, stopped health insurance monopolies from being allowed to discriminate against people who get sick, etc. HOPE!”
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
12:48 PM on 04/17/2012
correction- this one is in response to Michael Staker.

PatriotAZ jumps in for 13+
photo
ratiocinate
What we tolerate, our children embrace.
08:59 AM on 07/03/2012
I was hoping that congress would have been a team player by helping to get American back up on it's feet. All I have seen was a dysfunctional, do-nothing, fight everything for months beyond the time frame it should take. Congress stopped all hope of improvements.
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
01:08 PM on 07/03/2012
Slight ratiocinate Correction:

"I was hoping that THE GOP (GREEDY ONE PERCENT) would have been a team player by helping to get American back up on it's feet. All I have seen was a dysfunctional, do-nothing, fight everything for months beyond the time frame it should take. THE GOP (GREEDY ONE PERCENT) stopped all hope of improvements."
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
12:38 PM on 04/17/2012
Moved from below, for everyone's entertainment about patriotAZ

PatriotAZ = CUT N RUN!
13) Once again, PatriotAZ FAILS to answer a single question that DEBUNKS him.

So PatriotAZ ADMITS he is wrong about ALL THAT!

PatriotAZZ: “WOW! I'm in total amazement how you spun all those things into positive accomplishments.”

14) Here we see how the far right Fox “News” reality distortion field works. Those things ARE positive!

15) Obama got bin Laden = OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE!

16) got Al Qaeda leaders by focusing on Afghanistan and the Pakistan border, = OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE!

17) stopped the GOP job losses, = OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE!

18) added millions of jobs, = OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE!

19) ended the recession, = OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE!

20) ended the Iraq war, = OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE!

21) saved the US auto industry, = OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE!

22) re-regulated the banks and Wall Street, = OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE!

23) stopped health insurance monopolies from being allowed to discriminate against people who get sick, = OBJECTIVELY POSITIVE!

24) Explain how each of these things is NOT positive!

LOL! Only the GOP (Greedy One Percent) would think that MORE jobs in the US and NO bin Laden in the world is a NEGATIVE!
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
massmedia77
D. Co 440th Sig Bn, 22nd Sig Brigade
03:06 PM on 04/16/2012
Mitt Romney stands for nothing, but his own interests. He can't even hold the same position on anything for longer than a year.
02:56 PM on 04/16/2012
Everyone should view this. Warning: Liberals you won't like how your fellow democrats portray you.
www.howobamagotelected.com/media-malpractice-obama-voter-video.asp
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
01:00 PM on 04/17/2012
yawn...

More kooky fringery

Here's PatriotAZ's latest reality FAIL- for everyone's entertainment:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/RepublicanDepression/mitt-romney-nra-courtship_n_1422258_148605456.html
02:04 PM on 04/17/2012
Can't deny a video--actual democrats voting for Obama that actually know nothing. So yawn all you want!!!
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
05:06 PM on 04/14/2012
"His positions on any issue are going to change according to his audience. That's his history."

LOL!

Too bad for Romney we can READ!

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/14/1074486/-EVERY-Romney-Lie-In-One-Place-UPDATED-
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
04:56 PM on 04/14/2012
Mitt Romney could be in the Batman movies.

He could play TWO-FACE!

Flipping a coin is a lot like shaking an etch-a -sketch.
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
04:53 PM on 04/14/2012
Gun control isn’t a big issue for the Obama administration. They seem to have little interest in it. In contrast, Mitt Romney has shown more than an interest in limiting the Second Amendment. He has actually done it.

Did you know that Romney supported the Brady Bill and the 5 day waiting period? Were you also aware that this self-proclaimed champion of Second Amendment rights signed the nation’s first permanent ban on assault weapons while governor of Massachusetts?
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
kylie
03:37 AM on 04/15/2012
That was then, this is now...
He is courting the NRA, for votes, money, and power.
He is on the pro-gun side, now. But he is two-faced.
The Democrats need to come out and go after, "Stand Your Ground"
and Alec...
Most of us are more than willing to sign petitions, and stop these vigilante laws.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
01:04 PM on 04/15/2012
But most Americans support these laws.
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
04:51 PM on 04/14/2012
Romney stood before the NRA and claimed that Obama is limiting gun ownership, “This administration’s attack on freedom extends even to rights explicitly guaranteed by our Constitution. The right to bear arms is so plainly stated, so unambiguous, that liberals have a hard time challenging it directly. Instead, they’ve been employing every imaginable ploy to restrict it.”

But it is Mitt Romney who has a record of limiting gun ownership, and supporting a national assault weapons ban.

Let’s look at Mitt Romney’s record on the Second Amendment. Did you know that back in 1994, Romney supported the Brady Bill and the 5 day waiting period? Were you also aware that this self-proclaimed champion of Second Amendment rights signed the nation’s first permanent ban on assault weapons while governor of Massachusetts?

http://www.politicususa.com/romney-nra-obama-guns/
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
massmedia77
D. Co 440th Sig Bn, 22nd Sig Brigade
03:24 PM on 04/16/2012
Mitt Romney would convert to Islam if he thought it would help him win.
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
04:45 PM on 04/14/2012
"When pressed on this claim, the Romney campaign can’t name any specific gun laws that Obama has proposed."

LOL!
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
kylie
03:41 AM on 04/15/2012
They are so busy trying to court independents, they have forgotten that most Democrats, favor gun control. The past 11 years, no one has been upholding or fighting for this, until horrible murders hit the front page. Will avoid states who vote for, "Stand Your Ground" legislation and other insane gun laws. Would be dangerous to be a tourist in any of them.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
massmedia77
D. Co 440th Sig Bn, 22nd Sig Brigade
03:08 PM on 04/16/2012
I can't wait until Romney actually has to stand in front of Obama, at a debate, with his flip flopping past and nothing, but lies.
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
01:06 PM on 04/17/2012
Romney will be tough to debate.

After all, he's not bound by reality. He can take any position he wants at any time.

The supporters of the GOP (Greedy One Percent) no longer seem to care about Romney's lack of integrity.

The GOP Establishment told them to support Romney, and one thing they are good at is chust vollowing orders.
02:49 PM on 04/14/2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHvsakl2bmE

Listen to the speech. I did. It was GREAT!

It's all about FREEDOM, and protecting not only 2nd ammendment, but 1st ammendment and the Constitution! Obama took an oath to defend it. He isn't doing that.

Romney will. VOTE MITT ROMNEY 2012!
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
04:49 PM on 04/14/2012
Michael Starker: "the Constitution! Obama took an oath to defend it. He isn't doing that."

Prove it. With facts.

Or FAIL.

Like here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Michael_Staker/mitt-romney-nra-courtship_n_1422258_148041465.html

Michael Staker 20 points of FAIL!
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
hagagaga
You can't take the sky from me.
12:42 AM on 04/15/2012
Both will screw us on the issue. That's why I'm voting for Obama, the one who agrees with me more on the other issues.

Romney will still win because of this issue, though.
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
01:59 PM on 04/14/2012
Can't keep track of Romney's FALSEHOODS without a scorecard:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/14/1074486/-EVERY-Romney-Lie-In-One-Place-UPDATED-
02:49 PM on 04/14/2012
I'll take my liar over your liar any day of the week.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
07:36 PM on 04/14/2012
Another new fact free commenter
The clones are coming

uvm73
Member Since April 2012
Comments (17) | Friends (0)

Earnings to date $1.70
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
01:25 AM on 04/16/2012
This article PROVES Romney a LIAR.

Where's YOUR proof, uvm73?

Proof required FACTS.
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
01:58 PM on 04/14/2012
The Romney pander-thon rolls on.

It's funny that anyone is so desperate for a Republican in office that they trust Romney after his repeated flip flops on most of the major issues from "severely conservative" to "the left of Ted Kennedy."
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
kylie
03:46 AM on 04/15/2012
The Romney fans love waffles. They have the one, that has done the most flips.(Romney).
photo
RepublicanDepression
Of the1% by the1% for the Gerrymandering One% =GOP
02:45 AM on 04/16/2012
The only way to erase your positions from the etch a sketch is to FLIP IT and FLOP IT!