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Anders Breivik Trial: Suspect Defends Norway Massacre, Insists He Would Do It Again

By KARL RITTER 04/17/12 06:05 PM ET AP

OSLO, Norway — In a scene unimaginable in many countries, Norway's worst mass killer got the chance to explain his fanatical views to the court and the world, unrepentant and dressed in a business suit. Prosecutors and lawyers for the families of his 77 victims even shook his hand.

Two days into Anders Behring Breivik's terror trial, the way Norway's legal system deals with a confessed killer who rejects its authority is baffling – even to some Norwegians.

The 33-year-old far-right militant gave a rambling hour-long address to the court on Tuesday, reading from a statement that essentially summarized the 1,500-page anti-Islamic manifesto he posted online before his bomb-and-shooting rampage nine months ago.

"The attacks on July 22 were a preventive strike. I acted in self-defense on behalf of my people, my city, my country," Breivik declared, demanding to be found innocent of terror and murder charges. "I would have done it again."

Breivik has five days to explain why he detonated a bomb outside government headquarters in Oslo, killing eight people, then drove to a nearby resort island, where he massacred 69 others, mostly teens, at a summer youth camp run by the governing Labor Party.

Breivik, who has admitted carrying out the grisly acts, boasted they were the most "spectacular" by a nationalist militant since World War II.

His victims were part of a conspiracy to "deconstruct" Norway's cultural identity, he said. Comparing the Labor Party youth wing to the Hitler Youth, he called their annual summer gathering an "indoctrination" camp.

Breivik also lashed out at Norwegian and European governments for embracing immigration and multiculturalism, and claimed to be speaking as a commander of an anti-Islam militant group he called the Knights Templar – a group that prosecutors say does not exist.

At one point, Breivik even likened his attacks to the U.S. dropping atomic bombs on Japan to bring World War II to an end. "They did it for something good, to prevent further war," Breivik said.

The court's main judge interrupted repeatedly, admonishing Breivik to get to the point, but let him continue after he threatened to quit addressing the court altogether if he wasn't allowed to deliver his entire speech.

"It is critically important that I can explain the reason and the motive" for the massacre, he said.

Mette Yvonne Larsen, a lawyer representing victim's families, also interrupted Breivik, saying she had received complaints from victims that the defendant was turning the trial into a platform for his extremist views. But even she showed some sympathy for Breivik's right to explain his actions.

"We understand that the court allows it, but we felt it was our duty as lawyers for the bereaved to intervene," Larsen told reporters.

Norwegian legal experts said it was important that the country's legal traditions apply to everyone, even Breivik, whose massacre shocked this prosperous, peaceful nation.

The justice system isn't about "revenge, but sober, dignified treatment" for everyone accused of a crime, said Thomas Mathiesen, a professor of sociology of law at the University of Oslo.

"It is deeply ingrained in Norwegian tradition and fundamental values. If it lasts all the way through the 10 weeks of this trial, and I think it will, we have an important message to the world," he said.

When Breivik entered the courtroom on Tuesday, he delivered the same clenched-fist salute with his right arm outstretched as a day earlier, turning to stare at the families of some of his victims.

On Monday, Norwegian prosecutors and even lawyers representing the families of victims shook Breivik's hand as the trial opened, raising some eyebrows. Prosecutors shaking hands with defendants would be a rare sight in the U.S., as well as in neighboring Sweden and other Nordic nations.

"That was a bit strange," said John Christian Elden, who represents some survivors but is not participating in the trial.

Breivik had asked to wear a uniform in court in pretrial hearings but was rebuffed, and he appeared at the trial in a business suit and tie, his thinning hair neatly combed.

"We don't have orange jumpsuits and that kind of thing in Norway," his lawyer Geir Lippestad said. "This is a completely normal way to dress in a Norwegian court, even in a serious criminal matter."

Breivik's lawyers concede that his contention that he acted in self-defense is unlikely to succeed and said the main point was to avoid an insanity ruling, which Breivik contends would negate his cause.

In his testimony Tuesday, Breivik rejected suggestions that he has a narcissistic personality disorder.

"July 22, wasn't about me. July 22 was a suicide attack. I wasn't expecting to survive that day," he said. "A narcissist would never have given his life for anyone or anything."

Some victims' relatives were upset at his testimony.

"I think it's important to underline that we don't view Breivik as a politician in this matter. He is a mass murderer," said Trond Henry Blattmann, whose 17-year-old son was killed on the Utoya resort island.

Some observers outside Norway found Breivik's monologue surprising in a criminal trial.

"What I see happening in Norway with Breivik's statement is a trial about politics, not legal evidence," said Jeff Kass, who wrote a book about the 1999 Columbine High School shooting in Littleton, Colo.

He noted that in the United States, it's almost always the defense attorney – not the defendant – who does the talking.

"It is almost always considered a bad idea to have the defendant himself or herself testify. For one, it opens them up to too much questioning – as the prosecutor is now doing with Breivik," Kass said.

The five-judge panel hearing the case includes three "citizen" judges, ordinary people who serve four-year terms. One citizen judge was removed Tuesday after media reports said he had posted comments in an online forum saying that Breivik deserved the death penalty, which doesn't exist in Norway. He was replaced by another citizen judge.

If found mentally sane – the key issue to be decided in the trial – Breivik could face a maximum 21-year prison sentence or an alternate custody arrangement that would keep him locked up as long as he is considered a menace to society.

If declared insane he would be committed to psychiatric care for as long as he's considered ill.

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Associated Press writers Bjoern H. Amland and Julia Gronnevet in Oslo and Malin Rising and Louise Nordstorm in Stockholm contributed to this report.

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Anders Behring Breivik, a right-wing extremist who confessed to a bombing and mass shooting that killed 77 people on July 22, 2011, arrives for a detention hearing at a court in Oslo, Norway, Monday, Feb. 6, 2012. (AP Photo/Heiko Junge, Scanpix Norway)

Breivik is charged with terrorism and premeditated murder for a bombing in Oslo's government district, killing eight, and a shooting attack at a political youth camp, killing 69. He admits to the attacks but rejects criminal guilt. If convicted he would face a maximum sentence of 21 years in prison, though sentences can be extended if a criminal is considered a menace to society. If declared insane by the court, he would be committed to psychiatric care. Both sides can appeal the ruling to a higher court.

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11:00 PM on 04/25/2012
My comments have been deleted by the thought police. I was not being disrespectful to anyone. I only wanted to participate in a respectful discussion on the issue. It seems that the left wing believes that freedom of speech only applies to their beliefs.
07:24 PM on 04/18/2012
The article doesn't mention that one of the non-lay judges wasn't removed after lawyers objected to him being an ACTIVE member of the Labour party, the ruling party on which Breivik conducted his attacks.

How was that allowed to happen?
07:20 PM on 04/18/2012
His victims were part of a conspiracy to "deconstruct" Norway's cultural identity, he said. 

He's referencing the leftist establishment in Norway which has allowed leftist extremists into the mainstream. Norwegian extreme Leftist academics have been taken on as advisers for the
government on immigration and multiculturalism. You don't have to destroy the indigenous culture in order to welcome immigrants, but that's not accepted in some influential areas of the European Left.


Republicans and non-liberals should thank their lucky stars they don't have to deal with that level of insanity and self-destructive ideology in the American left. Their complaints seem trite in comparison to what's in the mainstream in Europe. The handiwork of the far left is most evident in the demographic winter that is emerging on the continent.
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06:48 PM on 04/18/2012
I cannot see how someone could kill 77 people in self defense, it makes no sense.
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10:45 AM on 04/18/2012
I'm surprised Oliver North and Gordon Libby haven't staged a dramatic rescue of this "brave freedom fighter" whom they, no doubt, admire.

I'm surprised Ted Nugent hasn't written stirring tribute song and held a right wing benefit concert for his legal defense.

This guy, after all, has actually carried out what our right wing nuts have for the most part only said . . . so far.
07:27 PM on 04/18/2012
No he hasn't. He's hurt populists, right wingers and anti-immigration activists of all political persuasions.

The guy says he was "forced" to carry out these attacks in self-defense. The truth is that he was briefly active in the political process and went on to terrorism. All those people who have worked through legal, appropriate and non-violent means to change immigration policy in Europe are hurt by this.
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08:45 AM on 04/19/2012
Anders Breivik's trial might hurt right wingers and anti-immigration activists in European countries like Norway, where the vast people of people consider themselves to be members of a unified country and society, consider the country's government to be their government, and expect public affairs to be conducted in a civil and rational manner.

But there is no such consensus among the vast majority of the people in the "United" States. In our steadily unraveling union, the leadership of one of our major political parties has spent the last 40 years or so calling the supporters of the other party words things like "unAmerican", "America-hating", "traitors", "communists", "socialists" and the like.

If you say something thousands of times, people will believe it, and today it is not only the Republican base who no longer feel the bonds of common nationality with Democrats. Increasingly, Democrats have begun to acknowledge to themselves that they are not and do not wish to be citizens of the "America" Republicans would to create out of their vicious and evil ideology of greed, selfishness, heartlessness, intolerance and militarism. To Democrats, Republicans are no longer recognizable as the fellow "Americans" we used to know.

In Norway, Breivik is rightly regarded as a freak and a lunatic.

But in the devolving union of the American states, Breivik is a hero to millions of angry white men who are inspired by the words of Ted Nugent - words that call for assassination and massacre of those they oppose.
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10:39 AM on 04/18/2012
This man is a brutal terrorist who slaughtered innocent people. Breivik's stated he acted in 'self-defense' as he slaughtered unarmed, unimposing people going on with their daily lives. Then brags about his war bravado by comparing himself to previous war history of other horrendous slaughtering.

This man is not insane. He is exactly what he describes his enemy as being, A Hitler, a radical, blood-thirsty, anti-multiculturalism renegade.

I like the idea of these defendants explaining themselves in court, instead of hiding behind Defense Attorneys. Let the court know what your really thinking.

Perhaps if more criminals spoke openly in court, the public would be more aware of such people, and would know to contact police or mental health agencies before such people have the opportunity to act and a tragedy has the chance to occur.
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08:52 AM on 04/18/2012
"The attacks on July 22 were a preventive strike. I acted in self-defense on behalf of my people, my city, my country," Breivik declared

How is this statement different then George W. Bush's concerning Iraq? Oh...Bush lied: it wasn't for his country...though it was for "his people": Exxon, Shell, and Hunt Oil (see "the facts on the ground" -- Exxon/Shell "aggreements" of 1/25/11, Hunt's of 9/09). I think we should follow King and Gandhi, but, Bush isn't in jail, so why should Breivik be sent to prison?
10:33 AM on 04/18/2012
You are basically correct.
As for King and Gandhi, how about including Jesus in the group?
Perhaps also support Ron Paul and his efforts change the immorality of "our" foreign policy.
10:57 AM on 04/18/2012
Include Bush I, Clinton, and Obama with Bush II.
08:49 AM on 04/18/2012
So he shot 77 people in "self-defense." He must think he lives in Florida.
08:33 AM on 04/18/2012
Say what you will about violent police attacks in America, he would never had the opportunity to kill so many in the U.S. Also crazy that they allow him to speak like this and the victim's families didn't seem to mind other than one interruption.Also the writer put a mild swing on things so who know what actually happened in the court.
07:12 AM on 04/18/2012
This guy should be imprisoned for life.  He is too dangerous to be left free.
07:28 PM on 04/18/2012
Agreed.
06:57 AM on 04/18/2012
I wonder if an equally disturbed Islamist committing a similar crime would have been given such a platform to spout his particular brand of venom. They are going to rue the day they gave Breivik this opportunity as there is a significant population from the schools of Rush Limbaugh, Hannity etc. who consider him a hero. Incidentally, all of a sudden we have become Human Rights aficionados when we were the ones responsible for the killing of 20 million Russians, 6 million Jews,and millions upon millions more in the guise of liberation from here to Australia. The Hindus in India began practising Human Rights more than 6,000 years ago.
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08:17 AM on 04/18/2012
you are as extreme in your thinking as this killer is to think Hannity and rush agree with him. I watch hannity and he said from day one he is a murderer, common. If the human race is so intolerable to you well then you know where you can go.....
10:49 AM on 04/18/2012
You are correct! Many of the "progressive" comments contain the same kind of venom, irrationality, intolerance, and ignorant self-righteousness as Limbaugh and Hannity. They are really mirror images. The language they use seems designed to manipulate thinking in the service of their ideology rather than promote constructive dialog..
07:29 PM on 04/18/2012
Actually they have been. Mullah Krekar has incited people to rape non-Muslims among other things. 
European courts and Scandinavian ones in particular, seem more permissive.
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06:39 AM on 04/18/2012
I honestly don't understand why the judges and prosecutors are allowing Breivik to turn his trial into a political platform. His "self defense" plea is a farce. And what is this "important message" about Norway that Professor Matheisen expects the trial to deliver to the world? That they allow what should be a CRIMINAL proceeding to be turned into a policital diatribe?? The bottom line is he didn't like the way the Norwegian government is governing and he wanted his own way, despite what anyone else had to say.

Personally, I think he's sane, just extremely self-centered and standing alone in his beliefs. But if it will infuriate him to be declared legally insane, as he's many times already stated, then I say GO FOR IT! Barring the death penalty, the only real justice and the outcome will be pretty much the same either way (I hope!) that's he's kept locked up for the rest of his life, because he will NEVER be safe to return to society.
07:30 PM on 04/18/2012
Because the far Left is known for doing just what you advocate and that is stifling dissenting opinion. They are playing into the hands of Breivik if they try to keep him from speaking, as that is exactly what he and non-Leftists in Norway have long accused the Government and media  of doing.
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01:37 AM on 04/19/2012
Interesting... that's more of a right-wing tactic in the U.S. Is there any way for the government to win? Sounds like they're damned either way.
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06:27 AM on 04/18/2012
Anders name refers to "different," the very thing he is fighting against. He fought to prevent Norway from becoming like America, a composite of different cultures, just as others are fighting for cultural independence from the American model, and others still are propagandizing within America to contain the roots of its multicultural integration. Like them, Anders is opposed to diversity, being stuck on the bodily platform of life. When combined with a morbid schizophrenic personality and heightened sense of self-righteousness, this lethal combination results in violence against a perceived enemy. This is the face of terrorism.

It will be interesting therefore to see how the Norwegians react to this terroristic display; will this tragedy reverse the direction of Norway's immigration and personal liberties, as happened in America after 9/11, or will they apply the antidote of increased cultural diversity and spiritual awareness. To defeat terrorism requires more than just legal and military subjugation; it is also necessary to defeat the philosophy that motivates terrorism. For this reason an open society must demonstrate the superiority of diversity by embracing greater diversity and more human rights including more, not less, immigration, greater access to spirituality and religious values, and broader application of basic human rights and liberties such as the right to life and protection from all forms of abuse. Otherwise terrorism simply begets more terrorism.
07:32 PM on 04/18/2012
America is an Assimilationist, not a Multicultural society by the European definition. European leaders have said that Multiculturalism is a huge failure and that they should be more like the U.S. which pushes assimilation.
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11:57 PM on 04/18/2012
It is both. "Birds of a feather, flock together." History shows that initial human migrations produce enclaves that evolve over time and become dissipated as the immigrants gradually become assimilated. Due to the general tendency to identify with the body, these groups also retain an ethnic or cultural identity over many generations.

No need to play the semantics game and no need for unwise politicians to infringe on cultural diversity since time will naturally foster integration. Patience is a virtue.

All these kinds of problems would be avoided if people understood that we are not these bodies, rather we are the spiritual energy that gives life to the dead matter (mostly water) our bodies are made of.
05:57 AM on 04/18/2012
Interesting