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Nokia Smartphones Slammed By European Mobile Operators

Nokia Smartphones

First Posted: 04/17/2012 2:18 am Updated: 06/17/2012 5:12 am


* Operators buy majority of phones in U.S., Europe

* Some worry Nokia's new smartphones not very good

* U.S. launch of Lumia is big test, operators optimistic

* Some telcos unwilling to spend on ads, subsidies for Nokia

* Nokia sees positive momentum, strong Lumia 900 start in U.S.

By Leila Abboud and Georgina Prodhan

April 17 (Reuters) - Nokia's bid to challenge the dominance of Apple's iPhone and Google's Android has failed to convince telecom operators in Europe, depriving it of powerful allies in its fight to regain the top spot in the mobile market.

Four major telecom operators in Europe, where the phones have been on sale since before Christmas, told Reuters the new Nokia Lumia smartphones were not good enough to compete with Apple's iPhone or Samsung's Galaxy phones.

Nokia now faces a battle for the key U.S. market, where its former dominance has shrivelled to 1 percent of the smartphone market. AT&T has been selling the Lumia 900 for two weeks and it says early demand has been strong.

Sceptics among operators say the sleek, neon-coloured phones are overpriced for what is not an innovative product, cite a lack of marketing dollars put behind the phones, and image problems caused by glitches in the battery and software of the early models.

Nokia's big bet made a year ago to put Microsoft's Windows Phone software in its smartphones looks far from certain to pay off, operators said.

"No one comes into the store and asks for a Windows phone," said an executive in charge of mobile devices at a European operator, which has sold the Lumia 800 and 710 since December.

Nokia is trying to catch up after earlier smartphones were unsuccessful and hurt its image at the higher end of the market.

"Nokia have given themselves a double challenge: to restore their credibility in terms of making hardware smartphones and succeed with the Microsoft Windows operating system, which lags in the market," the executive said.

He said Microsoft's software worked nicely with PCs and allowed you "to do tonnes of cool things" but few customers knew this. "If the Lumia with the same hardware came with Android in it and not Windows, it would be much easier to sell," he said.

Moody's cut its credit rating on Nokia to one notch above junk on Monday after the company said it would post losses for the first and second quarters. Standard & Poor's announced a similar downgrade in March.

Nokia insists the Lumia is not a failure. It says it has successfully launched its Windows Phones range on 42 markets, including China and United States, the two biggest.

"We are seeing positive momentum in our Lumia range," said Niklas Savander, chief of Nokia's Markets unit. "Our flagship Lumia 900 is off to a strong start and is exceeding expectations with AT&T in the U.S. We continue to work closely with, and receive the support of our operator partners."

A Nokia spokesman said the Lumia was now being sold by 80 mobile operators across Europe, all of which had committed to market the phones with promotional campaigns.

Stacy Drake, Director of Marketing at Microsoft's Windows Phone Division said: "In just one year, Nokia and Microsoft have delivered award-winning products and established a third ecosystem. We're off to a strong start and this is only the beginning."

Nokia's shares were at 3.08 euros on Tuesday, up 2.9 percent, at 1630 GMT.


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Without strong support from phone operators, its future is cloudy. Telecom operators subsidise the majority of mobiles in the United States and Europe before putting them in the hands of consumers, so they have an outsized influence on the market.

Operators want a viable alternative to Apple and Android, not only to offer customers more choice but to give them a stronger bargaining position with phone manufacturers.

U.S. operators buy about 90 percent of mobiles while their European peers buy 50-70 percent, according to market researcher Gartner and Bernstein Research. Operators then sell them at a discount and recoup the money through 1-2 year contracts.

"It's good for operators if we can reduce the dominance of Apple," said a spokesman for a second telecoms carrier, who asked not to be named because of the sensitivity of relations with mobile phone makers.

Nokia is trying to capitalise on its closer ties with the operators and to exploit their irritation with Apple's dominance and Google's bandwidth-hungry services like YouTube i n the hope they will push their phones on the market.

However, at a France Telecom store in Paris, Lumia models were not prominently displayed and a sales clerk was quick to offer one shopper an iPhone first. She then presented a range of Android smartphones made by Samsung and HTC.


MIXED REVIEWS

Reviews of the Lumia on tech blogs have been mixed with some liking the smart look and Windows-inspired design, and others pointing out the poor quality of the screen and battery life. Few reviewers have suggested users should dump their iPhone or Android to buy a new Nokia.

Getting customers to switch phones is even trickier in the "app economy" as users buy games, publications and videos on their phones and do not want to lose them by switching system. Issuing a profit warning last week, Nokia fell short of analysts' estimates by saying it had sold over 2 million Lumia smartphones in the quarter ending March, up from 1 million in November to January. Analysts had expected sales of 3 million.

Apple sold 37 million iPhones in the last quarter of 2011 while South Korea's Samsung has sold more than 40 million Galaxy smartphones since the range went on sale in June 2010. It will unveil the third-generation Galaxy S on May 3 in London, banking on grabbing attention before the Olympic games.

Apple uses its dominant position to dictate to operators the minimum number of iPhones they must buy and the size of subsidies they must offer to reduce prices for consumers.

That has hit the profits of European and U.S. operators just as they struggle with more competition from Web-based free messaging services and face costs for network upgrades to keep up with data traffic generated by smartphones.

AT&T and Sprint posted hefty losses last quarter that analysts blamed at least partly on heavy iPhone subsidies.

Apple iPhones tend to cost operators roughly 600 to 700 euros ($800 to $900), while high-end Samsung smartphones can cost 300-500 euros.

AT&T sells the new Lumia 900, a fourth-generation phone capable of ultra-high connection speeds, for $99.99 with a two-year contract and is marketing it heavily. Rival operator T-Mobile says the Lumia 710 is among its the most popular phones.

"We don't put this weight behind every launch," said an AT&T spokesman, adding the Lumia 900 had sold out in many stores.

At a shop in New York, a sales associate pointed out the Lumia to a Reuters reporter, saying it was AT&T's newest phone and many people had been asking for it.


LOSS LEADER

In Europe, although most operators are offering the new Nokia Lumia brand Windows phones, few use the weapons they have to push them: deeper subsidies or bigger marketing budgets.

Some complain they are too expensive, despite Nokia selling the range to operators and distributors for an average 220 euros last quarter, well below what had been expected.

"This implies that sales to the consumer are proving to be more difficult than we would have expected," said Richard Windsor, global technology specialist at investment bank Nomura, who had expected an average selling price of 300 euros.

A spokesman for a third operator who did not want to be named said: "If they could lower the price we think they could sell more. It might be worth making it a bit of a loss leader to get it out of the door. It's not rocket science."

Operators are also frustrated that cash-rich Microsoft is not spending more on marketing Nokia Windows phones.

The Nokia spokesman declined to comment on the marketing budget or whether there were plans to increase it. Microsoft's Drake said: "We are investing deeply with all of our partners and are optimistic about the future of Windows Phone."

Telecom consultant John Strand, who works with many of the top European carriers, said operators want to see more cash being spent. "The operators say to Nokia: 'We will try to bail you out if you and Microsoft come with the marketing money.'"

"But even if the operators start to give away the Nokias for free, it will not make Nokia a success," he added.

One device chief at a European operator agreed. "We can open our stores to them and train our staff to sell the phones, but that's it," he said.

"Ultimately, Nokia and Windows are challengers and they either need to come to market with a really disruptive, innovative product or a huge marketing budget to create client demand. So far they have done neither."

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09:05 AM on 04/18/2012
i just bought the lumia and i hate it soo much. its sooo horrible, im going back to android right away!!!
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PhillyKing
12:24 PM on 04/18/2012
ok... you cant post a rant like this without going into details as to "why you hate it so much over your android"... it lacks credibility without those details
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a gringo
Revisionist history is easier than research
11:20 PM on 04/17/2012
I have worked for one of the US carriers mentioned here and work at another currently. I can tell you from the consumer side the interest in Windows phones is basically zero, no matter the phone manufacturer. MS came in late with it, Apple and Android had already set the playing field.

You can quote all the spec's you want but the vast majority of cell phone buyers dont care about spec's, thats a fact. They pay attention to what their friends are using and whats easy to acclimate too. MS already shot themselves in the foot with their earlier operating systems, they were cumbersome and basically garbage. When their latest version was released it didnt even support picture text messaging so once again it got lost in the shuffel. In the end there are aspects of it that are not intuitive and akward. While the live tiles and hubs are neat, its not for everyone plus the number of apps is way fewer than the other os's.

As a retailer I will steer my customers to whats popular and also an OS that is short in the learning curve and also (outside of the iphone) have a wide range of models. While it may sound harsh I dont want dozens of returns visits to educate my customer on everyday functions, the companies pay us for upgrading and activating and in that respect, Apple and Android win hands down for ease of use and wide adapation.
farleft1917
Nothing is new but only forgotten.
10:42 PM on 04/17/2012
I switched from Apple iPhone to a Nokia Lumia 900!
It is a great phone with a modern OS. However, I just like a phone that simply works and has an interface that is so simple and clean. I am hooked. And so are millions of other users. Apple showed there's nothing wrong in having a small market share.
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crrunch
just breathe.......
08:22 PM on 04/17/2012
ALL the phones are overpriced, ya think?
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Lonnie DeVorak
06:31 PM on 04/17/2012
Nokia was the best cell phones that I have ever owned, (back in the day). It is sad to see they fell behind so far.
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jgeurian21
05:50 PM on 04/17/2012
Man this phone is selling so bad Steve Woz is waited to buy one.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Steve-Wozniak-looking-to-pickup-a-Lumia-900-today_id29115
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planetjeffy
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02:58 PM on 04/17/2012
Nokia bet everything on Windows phones....and we all knew that was a bad bet.
In the US, Windows phone share of the market has dropped in half down to 1.6%. Why would you bet your company on software that has dropped to 1.6%?
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planetjeffy
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02:57 PM on 04/17/2012
There is much delusion in the comments.

IF Windows Phone was going to be a player it would have already begun to have an impact.
Windows Phone 7 has come and gone.
Windows Phone 8 is not going to change the market all that much.

For what ever reason MS was just way too slow to respond to both iOS and Android.

The key paragraph from that story is this one:

"Moody's cut its credit rating on Nokia to one notch above junk ON MONDAY after the company said it would post losses for the first and second quarters. Standard & Poor's announced a similar downgrade in March."

If Windows Phone had a bright future investors would be tripping over themselves to buy the stock and Nokia's credit would be sterling.

MS is not having much of an impact in the mobile space.
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jgeurian21
05:48 PM on 04/17/2012
You do realize that Nokia just put out its first phone this year right? And that those ratings were based on reports stemming from financials in 2011? They have been selling the Lumia line for 3 months now and already in countries like Norway the marketshare is moving upwards. I guess you just have to realize that there is more than just the US in the world.
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10:57 PM on 04/17/2012
Certainly Moody's realizes it.
07:50 PM on 04/17/2012
"IF Windows Phone was going to be a player it would have already begun to have an impact.
Windows Phone 7 has come and gone."

Try substituting "Windows 1" or XBox (or the original versions of Word, IE, etc.) for "Windows Phone" and see if you want to reconsider that statement.
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Andre Fabre
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02:54 PM on 04/17/2012
The biggest mistake Nokia made was to partner with Microsoft to use Windows Mobile OS in their phones. Just that move makes the phones more expensive, and very little else to show for. Nokia should have partnered with Google and get a real OS to run their hardware.
02:59 PM on 04/17/2012
Never used Windows Phone 7?
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Andre Fabre
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03:09 PM on 04/17/2012
Windowz is windowz; always a crappy OS.
03:02 PM on 04/17/2012
Do you have any clue what you are talking about? The OS is NOT called "Windows Mobile OS". That name went out with PDA's. Have you used Windows OS? No? Clearly. The new Windows Phone OS is one of the best mobile OS's available. Read the reviews, it's true.

Secondly, by partnering with windows the phone is more expensive? How does that make any sense? OH! You're trying to connect the Windows operating system with the mobile market. Got'cha. False.

Please think about what you're saying before you pretend that you are an expert.

Disclaimer: I do not own a windows phone, I own an iPhone 4S. I love it
02:32 PM on 04/17/2012
You want to know how powerful the cell companies are? They vetoed the iPhone 5.

When Apple designed the iPhone 5, they eliminated the removable SIM card. The cell carriers objected, and Apple had to scrap the whole design, hastily upgrading the existing iPhone 4 and releasing the 4S six months later than planned.

If the carriers can say no to Apple, they can say no to anybody -- certainly including Microsoft.

Microsoft will have better luck with Windows 8 on larger wifi-only devices. Only then will there be any significant pressure on cell carriers to support Windows phones, and still MS may have to sprinkle some serious sweeteners on top to win their favor.
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tendril
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02:06 PM on 04/17/2012
Kudos to Nokia for trying to stay relevant, but they have jumped the shark. I have owned the old 800/900 series. Some of the features were ahead of the curve, some of them behind. The current landscape is crowded. If you want to make waves you have got to throw a pretty big rock in the water.
Darkness690
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01:38 PM on 04/17/2012
So free is overpriced?
01:25 PM on 04/17/2012
Just remember the Xbox vs PS2 era, people were bashing the Xbox SO HARD, they didn't know at that time that XBOX Live, Microsoft Studio and the Kinect would do wonders and completly outpace the competition. The same will happen with Windows Phone, it doesn't matter what people say, in the long run with the Microsoft ecosystem and Windows 8 and WP8, they will start buying Windows Phone when they will see their friend give phone calls via integrated Skype, play Xbox Live on their smartphone, use the Kinect sensor or their Windows 8 tablet.
02:12 PM on 04/17/2012
Not necessarily. The mobile phone market is unlike most other consumer electronics market. A mobile phone is similar to a cable set-top box. The network operator has the final and ultimate say as to which devices are permitted on their networks and how they will be marketed to consumers. If the cell carriers don't want to support Windows phones, then they don't have to, and there's nothing consumers can do about it. The cell networks are NOT OPEN networks.
02:12 PM on 04/17/2012
You can get Skype on Android and iPhone. The gaming market is in a downturn, even the Xbox 360 had a 14% sales drop in recent report. Hoping to turn the fortune of phones based on the gaming industry is foolhardy, IMHO.
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jgeurian21
04:35 PM on 04/17/2012
I have Skype on my Lumia too. And of course the sales of a 6 year old console are going down. It is called market saturation. But software sales are up hence the reason why MS is making billions in profit and Nintendo is failing every single quarter since the end of 2010.
01:24 PM on 04/17/2012
I think Nokia should continue to develop their Meego in house OS. Microsoft has a simple effective and attractive operating system, but they need to bring up to the level of Android ICS and iphone OS. Until Microsoft does this, I don't think it will particularly benefit Nokia from a business standpoint to stick with the WP7 OS over a long period of time.
12:07 PM on 04/17/2012
NOKIA is TOAST