iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Afghanistan War: US, NATO Ready Plan To Hand Off Combat

By ANNE GEARAN and SLOBODAN LEKIC 04/18/12 04:06 PM ET AP

Afghanistan War Us Nato Plan
In an April 15, 2012 file photo NATO soldiers run during a gun battle in Kabul, Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Musadeq Sadeq/file)

BRUSSELS — Several NATO allies promised Wednesday to underwrite Afghanistan's armed forces after foreign troops depart, as the United States and other nations plan to pull away from the front lines in Afghanistan next year.

U.S. officials were at pains to show that the pressure to close down an unpopular war will not leave Afghanistan's fragile government and unsteady military in the lurch.

"There is no change whatsoever in the timeline," NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen insisted.

The messages aimed at different audiences are both challenged by current events in Afghanistan, where insurgents staged an impressive, coordinated attack last weekend that struck at the heart of the U.S.-backed government and international enclave in Kabul. Meanwhile, Taliban leaders are boycotting peace talks the U.S. sees as the key to a safe exit.

U.S. and NATO claims of progress in Afghanistan were overshadowed by publication Wednesday of gruesome photos that purport to show U.S. troops posing with the dismembered corpses of Afghan militants.

"Our strategy is right, our strategy is working," Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said following meeting of NATO defense chiefs that focused on the calendar for closing down the war and the challenge of paying for Afghanistan's defense for years to come.

"We cannot and we will not abandon Afghanistan," he said. Also attending the meeting was Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

The allies are finalizing a plan to shift primary responsibility for combat to Afghan forces and firming up a strategy for world support to the weak Afghan government and fledgling military after 2014.

That year is the deadline to the NATO-led war to end, although it is clear that many nations will have long since stopped any active front-line combat and some will have pulled out completely.

Panetta glossed over sharp remarks from Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who had said Tuesday that he wants a written promise of at least $2 billion annually from the United States for military support.

Fogh Rasmussen would not name the nations that signed up for ongoing support, and NATO officials said the pledges will be a centerpiece when President Barack Obama hosts fellow leaders for a NATO summit in Chicago next month.

However, a NATO diplomat said 23 nations have so far signed on to a "coalition of committed contributors" to fund the Afghan security forces after 2014. The diplomat, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions were confidential, said the list includes the United States and Britain, but also non-NATO members such as South Korea, Montenegro and Georgia.

Another NATO diplomat said a few nations have made specific pledges already, including Britain with a promise of $110 million annually. The official also spoke on condition of anonymity because the discussions were confidential.

Fogh Rasmussen said the alliance expects a bill of about $4 billion annually to sustain the Afghan fighting forces, which he called a "good deal" since it is cheaper than the cost of war.

But it is not clear that several European governments have the budget or the will to keep paying.

The United States expects to pay much of the cost but U.S. officials say Washington cannot foot the bill alone. Washington wants more nations outside NATO, such as China and Russia, to chip in, arguing that everyone has a stake in ensuring Afghanistan does not slide into chaos.

The United States acknowledges that despite progress the U.S. is not meeting its goal of drawing $1.3 billion annually from other nations for the Afghan armed forces.

U.S. and Afghan officials have already said they expect a shift to an Afghan military lead in combat operations by the middle of 2013, although the U.S. stresses that it will still have a large number of forces in Afghanistan as backup.

Those plans are also expected to be detailed at the Chicago meeting, although without specific details about the pace of the U.S. troop withdrawal.

U.S. military leaders have not submitted final proposals for how to ease nearly 70,000 troops into the back seat next year but are working against a firm deadline to end the current combat mission by 2015.

Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi said Wednesday that the Afghans are on track to take the lead in securing the country by the end of 2013. Azimi said the Afghan Army has already reached its target number of 195,000 troops. Including police and other forces, Afghan security forces now number about 330,000.

The combat shift parallels the withdrawal in Iraq, where U.S. forces pulled back from lead roles but remained in harm's way for months before a scheduled end to the war.

Obama also hopes to showcase a long-term security pact with Afghanistan in Chicago. U.S. and Afghan officials said they would like to sign the agreement ahead of the summit, with more specific military agreements to follow.

Karzai raised another condition Tuesday with the request for a written annual commitment. The demand threatens to further delay the key bilateral pact and suggests that Karzai is worried that the U.S. commitment to his country is wavering.

live blog

Oldest Newest

afghanistan

Police take their position alongside a giant picture of Afghan national hero Ahmad Shah Massoud, on the roof of police headquarters in Kabul on May 7, 2012. The United States has freed up to 20 detainees from a military prison in Afghanistan over the past two years in an effort to promote reconciliation with insurgent groups, the US embassy said. (BAY ISMOYO/AFP/GettyImages)

Share this:
@ AbasDaiyar : Dreams Of A Mining Future On Hold In #Afghanistan : NPR http://t.co/uN1C2TP3?

Share this:

afghanistan

An Afghan youth looks out from an intricately carved truck window at a police checkpoint in Kabul on May 7, 2012. Afghan forces are ready to take responsibility for security in 2013, the defence ministry said on May 7, reacting to a pledge to withdraw French troops early by president-elect Francois Hollande. Hollande made a campaign promise to pull French soldiers out of Afghanistan this year, ending his country's combat role two years earlier than NATO's carefully crafted plan to hand security control to Afghans by 2014. (SHAH MARAI/AFP/GettyImages)

Share this:
@ ISAFmedia : AP reports: Afghan Govt forces will thwart any attacks mounted by Taliban. http://t.co/qDEtWRsI #ANSFCanDo

Share this:
@ headlinenews : Fox: What French presidential vote means for European debt crisis, Afghan war, global diplomacy: French voters c... http://t.co/E6fcgbiH

Share this:
@ AfghanNews24 : Afghanistan a major focus of NATO summit - Chicago Sun-Times http://t.co/a7lk2KGT

Share this:


U.S. servicemen inside of a plane before their departure to Afghanistan from the U.S. transit center Manas, 30 km outside the Kyrgyzstan's capital Bishkek, on March 27, 2012. A planned withdrawal of US and coalition forces by the end of 2014 hinges on building up Afghan army and police, but the surge in 'fratricidal' attacks threatens to undermine that strategy, with strained relations between NATO troops and Afghan forces marked by distrust and cultural clashes. (VYACHESLAV OSELEDKO/AFP/GettyImages)

Share this:

afghanistan

An Afghan boy walks with his cow at sunset in Mazar-i Sharif, capital of the Balkh province on April 9, 2012. Agriculture has traditionally driven the Central Asian nation's economy, with wheat and cereal production being mainstays and quality fruits, especially pomegranates, apricots, grapes, melons, and mullberries being exported to many countries. (QAIS USYAN/AFP/GettyImages)

Share this:
@ JoeNBC : Looking Ahead to the Afghan War's Next Decade - Global - The Atlantic Wire: http://t.co/CWSrDjih

Share this:
@ NewYorkPost : US soldier dies of rabies after dog bite in Afghanistan http://t.co/NudcMgyu

Share this:

Gazing glumly over millions of dollars worth of machinery which used to churn out thousands of police and army boots each day but now sits wreathed in plastic sheeting, Farhad Saffi fears he is seeing the death of an Afghan dream.

Read the entire story here.

Share this:
afghanistan


Afghan President Hamid Karzai speaks during a press conference at the presidential palace in Kabul on May 3, 2012. Karzai hailed a new pact with the United States but warned that tough negotiations on Washington's military presence in his war-torn country after 2014 still lay ahead. (BAY ISMOYO/AFP/GettyImages)

Share this:

U.S. Marine Corps Gen. John R. Allen, the commander of the ISAF forces in Afghanistan, explains to Al Jazeera English why the handover in the turbulent country is "like building an airplane in midflight."

Share this:
@ cbrangel : As we begin our withdrawal from Afghanistan, we honor the 1,828 heroic Americans who paid the ultimate sacrifice.http://1.usa.gov/IywJn3

Share this:
@ csmonitor : Obama's agreement with Karzai in Afghanistan short on specifics http://t.co/Kb4iI5d1

Share this:

FOLLOW WORLD

BRUSSELS — Several NATO allies promised Wednesday to underwrite Afghanistan's armed forces after foreign troops depart, as the United States and other nations plan to pull away from the front li...
BRUSSELS — Several NATO allies promised Wednesday to underwrite Afghanistan's armed forces after foreign troops depart, as the United States and other nations plan to pull away from the front li...
Filed by Ryan Craggs  | 
 
 
  • Comments
  • 28
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
06:04 AM on 04/19/2012
Panetta the strategy is working . . yeah right . . . bring the troops home they are causing more damage than helping the Afghans . . . .
03:56 AM on 04/19/2012
Anyone who holds the notion that the U$ went in there for OBL, and that the military will pull out of @fgh@nistan needs a bit of a reality check.

Which brings me to this question: Was the loss of hundreds of thousands of Muslim lives worth whatever "Strategic Depth" the U$ wanted to gain there?

""A former CIA station chief, Milt Bearden, later told The Washington Post “We never heard what they were trying to say…. We had no common language. Ours was, `Give up Bin Laden`. They were saying, `Do something to help us give him up`.” Mr Bearden said “I have no doubts they wanted to get rid of him. He was a pain in the neck”, but this “never clicked” with US officials.""

http://archives.dawn.com/archives/3038
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2010/09/20/newly-disclosed-documents-shed-more-light-on-early-taliban-offers-pakistan-role/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/oct/17/afghanistan.terrorism11
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2011/09/20119115334167663.html
http://theglobalherald.com/afghanistan-taleban-offered-to-hand-over-osama-bin-laden-before-2001-invasion/2418/
uk progressive
He took a face from the ancient gallery
01:12 AM on 04/19/2012
The Taliban will take the south and Kabul like before the 2001 afghan war was launched as quick as you can say fall of saigon.
uk progressive
He took a face from the ancient gallery
01:09 AM on 04/19/2012
Rats and sinking ship spring to mind.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Yaxchibonam
Learn a second language.
11:44 PM on 04/18/2012
Oh what a waste of precious lives in the proxy wars of Korea, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. Ready for Iran?
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
surferlaments
Help me Rhonda......
12:20 AM on 04/19/2012
all the others i don't care about, but as far as iran, yes... i am ready.
uk progressive
He took a face from the ancient gallery
01:05 AM on 04/19/2012
Got your tin hat and rifle ready?
06:05 AM on 04/19/2012
why?
uk progressive
He took a face from the ancient gallery
01:09 AM on 04/19/2012
Surely after all these wars and all the lies Americans won't be fooled into a war with iran?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
RobertHenryEller
a micro-bio hp can handle
04:03 AM on 04/19/2012
Korea didn't stop us from being fooled into Vietnam.

Vietnam did not stop us from being fooled into Iraq.

The CIA fooling the Russians into Afghanistan didn't stop us from being fooled into Afghanistan.

And you think that Americans can't be fooled into Iran? Believe me, AIPAC, the neo-cons and the defense industry war profiteers are working 24/7 on this con job.

And yes, Americans can be fooled again.

As we can forced into a first W. administration, and fooled into a second. As many could get easily fooled into a Willard administration.

You have no idea of the capacity of Americans to buy lies. No one has yet glimpsed the depth of that capacity.
06:07 AM on 04/19/2012
don't bet on it . . . israel wants it so does congress -- they work for the lobby and the MiC wants it . . . . america never learns . . it has turned into a war machine . . meanwhile back at home civil rights, the infra-structure et al are falling apart . . . get Dave to stop following Obama . . . . otherwise . . .he will play poodle
11:41 PM on 04/18/2012
obama's cut and run strategy is working. Right. obama's foreign policy is a total disaster. Only his home agenda is more dismal.
holyghostie
Spiritus est qui vivificat
11:22 PM on 04/18/2012
Kharzai considers us occupiers...and he wants us to pull our troops out but keep our money there. He likes being a Welfare Momma.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
surferlaments
Help me Rhonda......
12:21 AM on 04/19/2012
when we leave, believe me, kharzai will want to come with us.
03:48 AM on 04/19/2012
Doubt he thinks that... He'd still be consulting for UNOCOL if the U$ didn't need their man at the helm in @fgh@nistan...
holyghostie
Spiritus est qui vivificat
09:03 PM on 04/18/2012
The reason which is seldom spoken about but which further undermines and makes the Afghan war seem so pointless is that Al Qaeda have simply moved on to Pakistan, Yemen and Somali.

We will most likely see a 'last chopper out of Saigon' scene in Kabul too.
holyghostie
Spiritus est qui vivificat
11:23 PM on 04/18/2012
It would be cheaper to go to counter terror strategy. Seal our borders and actually hunt down all those here who overstayed their visas.
03:28 AM on 04/21/2012
I think you're right. In fact prior to the full scale Afghan assault, the CIAs approach was to pay local warlords to fight the Taliban combined with a special forces teams, apparently it was working.

However people will argue that without a foot print and secure bases in Afghanistan then the US couldn't launch drone strikes against Al Qaeda. Whilst this is true, drone strikes are only diminishing Al Qaeda in numbers but not ideology as it's proving just as popular amongst radicals around the world.

We can't kill an idea with guns and bombs, only try and replace it with a better one. This isn't like the Nazis where we cut off the head of the beast Hitler – Al Qaeda is much more transient and hard to pin down.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
04:48 PM on 04/18/2012
So, a U.S. financed "NANNY STATE" for Afghanistan, but none here right at home in America?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
RobertHenryEller
a micro-bio hp can handle
04:06 AM on 04/19/2012
It will be a "Nanny State" just like in the US. Military contractors and Afghan warlords protected.

Afghan people hung out to dry. Just like the 99% in the US.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
03:48 PM on 04/18/2012
We will still have troops there under other names. We will still be killing, maiming and bribing there. We will still be stealing their resources with bribes. And we will still be funding their regime at the expense of Americans at home. And we will still be creating more enemies than friends beyond the narrow group we will be paying salaries and bribes to.

Mission accomplished?

What mission?

The guys at the World Trade Center were 14 Saudis, several Egyptians and a few others. Have we bombed and occupied those places? No. Simple bribery and oil buying seems to have worked to maintain Empire America without the sham of illegal wars of occupation in Iraq and Afghanistan.
03:51 AM on 04/19/2012
Not all "Suspected Hijackers" died that day ;)

""Another of the men named by the FBI as a hijacker in the suicide attacks on Washington and New York has turned up alive and well.

The identities of four of the 19 suspects accused of having carried out the attacks are now in doubt.""
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1559151.stm
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
09:07 AM on 04/19/2012
Anyone who has watched Loose Change 2, The Final Cut knows that there is far more to this story than what the general press demands as true.

The fact is that the nationalities of those we claim to have been the hijackers were Saudi and Egyptians primarily. Yet we continue to enjoy relations with both of those countries and even Yemen, the home of one of the others.

It's the official story that belies the basis for invading Iraq and Afghanistan. The official tale shows the claimed bases for invasion and killing of so many people were total lies.

Our government assumes that Americans are irretrievably stupid. Apparent the government is correct.
04:08 AM on 04/19/2012
So if Hitler was Austrian but was working in Germany are you saying we should not have invaded Germany?
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
09:13 AM on 04/19/2012
Silly boy.

He was the elected Chancellor of Germany, not Austria, when he ran the Holocaust. He had been freely elected twice.

The 9/11 guys had no connection to Afghanistan other than being essentially tourists there. The border was not exactly secure, if you recall. Still isn't, if you recall. We have created more enemies in Afghanistan since 9/11 than were there before. Happy with that? It's a policy and dishonest government problem at our end, propelled by hallucinations of Empire America. The US apparently loves its national Kamikaze mission. You'd have thought since Korea, Vietnam and our other empire failures, that we would have learned. We have learned precisely nothing except that the MIC can and will eat America's heart out from the inside.
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
maw032879
Detroit Lions fan since the day I was born!!
11:48 AM on 04/18/2012
Even with the news today of soldiers posing with dead suicide bombers body parts, after we've killed OBL, after Al Qaeda is scattered to the high heavens & we've been there over 10 years; their STILL will be some on the right (Senators McCain, Graham & Lieberman) who'll claim we cut & ran when we finally bring the troops home & end this mess. Karzi doesn't want us their. The Taliban doesn't want us there & the people don't want us there. We've over stayed our welcome by about 8 years. It's time to come home!!