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Mitt Romney, Obama Supporters Try To Score Points With Dog Owners

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JOCELYN NOVECK   04/20/12 12:53 PM ET  AP

NEW YORK — So let's get all the puns out of the way, shall we? It's the issue with legs – four of them. The doggone thing won't go away. Has the presidential race just gone to the dogs? Or are we simply in those dog days between the primary season and the start of the general election?

Whatever it is, the political Mommy Wars seem to have given way this week, at least temporarily, to the Doggy Wars, with an effort by supporters of both Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama to gain points with the Doggy Vote. That's dog owners, not the dogs themselves – at least for now.

But let's talk about those dog owners. We asked a bunch of them across the country what they thought. And many – though not all – were annoyed by the whole affair, calling it a silly and pointless distraction.

"I hate seeing things detract like this from the real issues," said Barry Leimkuehler, 53, of Phoenix. "Both sides are guilty of it. I guess until the debates start, they're just filling up time."

Leimkuehler is a supporter of Romney, the presumptive GOP nominee, which gives us our segue. Because, to recap, it all starts with a story that has dogged Romney (sorry) for five years, that of Seamus the Irish setter and his unfortunate road trip to Canada.

Seamus, goes the anecdote, was strapped to the top of the family car in a crate for the entire 1983 trip from Boston to Canada, during which he developed gastric distress, which resulted in both car and dog having to be hosed off. Romney did so, and put the dog back up there.

The story came out in 2007 and has since been used by Romney's opponents to describe him as cold and uncaring. Dogs Against Romney, a group started by social media consultant Scott Crider, now boasts more than 50,000 friends on Facebook; Obama campaign staffers have a Facebook page called Pet Lovers for Obama. Campaign strategist David Axelrod in January tweeted a photo of his boss and dog Bo in a car – inside, of course – saying "How Loving Owners Transport Their Dogs."

It came up again this week when Romney and wife Ann were interviewed by Diane Sawyer on ABC. Ann Romney insisted the dog loved to travel that way, and had only gotten sick that one time. "He had the runs," she laughed, though the couple did not look totally amused.

Then Wednesday, a conservative blogger pointed out a passage in Obama's "Dreams From My Father" that mentions having been given dog meat when he was a child in Indonesia. That prompted a delighted outpouring on Twitter by amused Obama opponents, peppered with dog recipes. John McCain tweeted a photo of his son's dog, with the line "I'm sorry Mr. President, he's not on the menu."

A Romney spokesman revisited that nice picture of Obama and Bo, saying it was, in hindsight, "chilling." An Obama spokesman tweeted back decrying the attack on a small child. On Thursday it all reached the White House briefing room, with chief spokesman Jay Carney saying that making a big deal of the dog-meat episode "sounds like somebody who's trying to get out of the doghouse on something."

Puns aside, the episode didn't seem quite so humorous to many dog owners interviewed by The Associated Press. (And there WERE many; our Twitter request for dog owners to contact us led to some 200-plus emails, including lovely dog photos, in 20 minutes, not to mention countless phone calls – a testament to the passion of dog owners.)

"Really, both issues are stupid, given what we are wrestling with as a country," said Patricia Warne, a research scientist who lives in Rockland County, north of New York City, and owns four dogs – three border collies and a dachshund. Yet the Romney episode bothered her. "Given the money he has, couldn't he have found some other way to transport his family and the dog? I wouldn't put a dog up there any more than I would a kid."

Still, Warne said, she considered it more an organizational failing on Romney's part – "a lack of planning" – than a moral one. And since she is a solid Democrat, it hadn't affected her choice of candidate.

Not so Jennifer Mohr, who's still deciding whom to support. Mohr, of Hollywood, Fla., owns a company that makes candles for dogs. Though she voted for Obama last time, she said she was disappointed in some of his failed promises and was considering Romney – until she heard about the Seamus incident.

"As soon as he put the dog on the roof of the car, I bailed," she said. "I don't understand what that man was thinking. I can't get my head around it!"

Virtually everyone interviewed gave Obama a pass on the dog meat, calling it a cultural difference. That included Ron Friedman, a Romney supporter from Gurnee, Ill., proud owner of a Pomeranian shih tzu.

"He was a young kid," said Friedman, who works in the health care industry. "It was the practice in that country. I won't make this an issue when it's not."

Of Romney's Seamus trip, he said, "I understand how some people think this is over the top – no pun intended. But I live in a rural area. People here have their dogs out all year round. Now, if there were two dogs and one flew off ..."

Friedman added that he thinks the whole Seamus affair is a "cynical ploy" – as is the dog-meat issue. He wants to see more substance. "Is this the worst they have on Romney? At least attack him on the issues!"

Sherry Butler, another shih tzu owner who works in marketing in Phoenix, was horrified to hear of the Seamus anecdote, which she didn't know about beforehand. "Are you kidding me?" she asked. "I would never do that ever! My dog is like my son."

However, Butler, an independent who is still deciding whom to support, said she still thinks it doesn't bear on Romney's fitness to be president. "What it tells me about him is that as a dog lover, he doesn't feel the way I do," she said. "I won't disregard it. But it won't be the deciding factor."

Carol Bryant doesn't agree. The 43-year-old Democrat – and cocker spaniel owner – thinks the episode does reflect on Romney. "It says something about the character of a candidate," said Bryant, of Forty-Fort, Pa. "I'm mortified by it, and I do believe there's a place in the campaign for discussion of it."

To media critic Jeff Jarvis, the whole affair is a reflection of where we've come in political campaigns. "One blemish is an opportunity to bring somebody down," he said. "It's all distracting and silly, and it's dangerous when taken seriously."

Scott Crider says it is serious, though – especially for prized female voters. The founder of Dogs Against Romney says more than 60 percent of his Facebook "friends" are women. "They're saying, `I can't support this guy,'" says Crider, who calls himself an independent and says he has had no contact with the Obama campaign.

Interestingly, one person who doesn't seem to take it too seriously is the president of PETA, or People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.

"As an individual, it irritates me when there is any talk of anything that doesn't settle on the core issues," said Ingrid Newkirk, stressing that she was speaking for herself. "And if we want to talk about treatment of animals in this country," she added, "there are far more serious issues to talk about."

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NEW YORK — So let's get all the puns out of the way, shall we? It's the issue with legs – four of them. The doggone thing won't go away. Has the presidential race just gone to the dogs? Or...
NEW YORK — So let's get all the puns out of the way, shall we? It's the issue with legs – four of them. The doggone thing won't go away. Has the presidential race just gone to the dogs? Or...
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03:01 PM on 04/23/2012
If you really want to see the difference between Obama and Mitt, listen to what Mitt's dog had to say in this interview. http://youtu.be/3YO7PibAe_s
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Sirlarek
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03:34 PM on 04/22/2012
I think that dog is probably tastier than much of what passes as meat here...but it does depend on the species and the age. Affol is still popular here and we don't bat an eye over it. In fact it is equated with the number one American cuisine.

The risk to eating carnivores is the higher risk of trichinosis but I am sure we could keep it pretty safe by cooking techniques. Bear is wonderful to eat...just see how Ted Nugent loves it.
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eenp718
Justice and Fairness is Key
12:24 PM on 04/22/2012
The one thing, that was pronounced, when I was in Europe, was the lack of dogs, compared to here. And Asia, is worse, has been since the sixties. With these food deals, propping up the farmers here, and feeding those folks there, is one way of corporate control. They want to do that here, look at the ryan plan. Remove the safety-net, then job protections, what do you think "Boss Tweed" and his goons are trying to do, help us?, or themselves?
05:07 AM on 04/22/2012
Better to be a live in a crate then dead on a plate... who doesn't agree?
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Cycoblitz
Love one another. How hard is that?
01:26 PM on 04/25/2012
I don't agree. If you eat meat, and live in the East, dog may be on the menu. I had some in the Phillipines before I knew what it was. (Watch Travel Channel for worldly delicasies.) it's a culture thing.

Putting a dog in a crate and driving on the car for 12 hrs is abuse. If you are able to imagine what the wind would do to you for that long. Pre-meditated dog abuse.
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WTH 2012
Tell Vlad I'm flexible
12:22 PM on 04/21/2012
Why do _sillylibs think using a travel box for dogs is in any way inhumane? They're well built and still very popular:
http://www.top20sites.com/Top-Dog-Boxes-Sites

Eating dog however, is still very unpopular.
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laffFUwant
Righties hate Jesus' platform 4 the poor.
02:29 PM on 04/21/2012
I looked at the site. I saw none that encourage the owners to strap Fido on top of a vehicle---you know, up there with all the diesel fumes, and 75 mph winds. Good luck on your dog boxes.
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WTH 2012
Tell Vlad I'm flexible
11:58 PM on 04/21/2012
Haha, you must not be very familiar with the word custom made.
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bxgrrl
Everything's subject to change without notice.
09:34 AM on 04/21/2012
Obama was a child when he ate dog in a foreign country. Mittens mistreated his family pet as a grown man. He recently implied in an interview with Diane Sawyer that he'd do it again if no one found out. People who can't treat animals right don't do well by humans either. Vote for Romney and (unless you're rich like him) get hosed like his dog.
09:02 AM on 04/21/2012
What's next? I know! Ted Nugent, we've recently learned, urinated and defecated on himself for several days in order to fail his physical when he faced the draft for Vietnam. Why isn't that the same, in Republican logic, as the fact that when President Obama was a six month old infant he pooped in his diaper!
05:06 AM on 04/22/2012
Yet, your hero, Bill Clinton ran to england in order to dodge the draft...just sayin
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Cycoblitz
Love one another. How hard is that?
01:31 PM on 04/25/2012
Are you running out of deflections yet. We know, it's the Tea Party way. Deflect.
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truthsayer4ever
Veritas In Caritate
08:36 AM on 04/21/2012
Just looking at the picture that accompanies this article shows me that President Obama is a warm, loving human being. We have seen him kiss his wife, looking lovingly at his wife, hug his wife, hug his children, look lovingly at his children and just be a warm human being. I have never seen Mr. Rmoney ever as much as touch his children, wife, or any animal whatsoever. Pictures say thousands of words when you really look at them.
07:31 AM on 04/21/2012
A 6 YEAR OLD DOES NOT CONTROL THE MENU, BUT ROMNEY AS A GROWN MAN WITH CHILDREN, SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER. ONLY THE INTELLECTUAL DEFECTIVE WILL HAVE A PROBLEM DISTINGUIISHING THE DIFFRENCE, THERE IS NO COMPARISON.
DUSAA-1775
never moon a werewolf
10:00 AM on 04/22/2012
I love it when you jump up and down and scream and cry.

Caps off please.
07:02 AM on 04/21/2012
Obama administration supports slaughter of horses........... BLM Appoints Second Supporter of Horse Slaughter to National Wild Horse and Burro Advisory Board
BLM on road to slaughtering wild horses in holding?

COLO. SPRINGS, CO (Feb. 8, 2012) – The Cloud Foundation strongly protests the appointment of another pro-slaughter member to the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) Wild Horse and Burro Advisory Board. On February 5, 2012, Secretary of the Interior, Ken Salazar, named Callie Hendrickson of Grand Junction, Colorado as the newest member of the Board. Hendrickson will fill the General Public position, replacing Janet Jankura of Ohio who applied to serve another term but was denied.

“I am wondering what general public Ms. Hendrickson represents? Certainly not the vast majority of Americans who oppose the slaughter of wild or domestic horses,” states Ginger Kathrens, Executive Director of The Cloud Foundation. “It’s troubling that in the past nine months the Secretary has chosen two members of the Board who appear to have little problem with lethal management of our wild horses.”
06:56 AM on 04/21/2012
In March 2011, Lisa Friday's video camera made a difference. On a late winter day, Friday visited a herd of wild horses penned at the Bureau of Land Management's Butterfield/Herrimen holding facility in southwest Utah. What she saw there, and what she lawfully recorded, was appalling. "Never in my entire life have I seen animals in such squalor," she said this past weekend from her home in Virginia. "There was no place for any horse to escape."

Call President and Sec Ken Salazar to stop this.
06:50 AM on 04/21/2012
Here is something Obama can do, he could stop abuse of our wild mustangs. After hundreds of calls, fax, email to Sec of Interior Salazar and President Obama the roundups and abuse continue.

Shall we talk inhumane, let's talk about the federal government rounds up wild mustang putting them in holding pens, and now making secret plans to kill them. http://www.thecloudfoundation.org/index.php/news-events-a-media/news/resources/329-altmanag

Documents Reveal BLM Secret Plan to Destroy Wild Horses

Under Obama and Sec Salazar  Documents obtained from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) via the Freedom of Information Act by a Phoenix-based non-profit, The Conquistador Program, reveal shocking and detailed plans to destroy healthy wild horses in government holding facilities as well as those still remaining in the wild on public lands.
06:13 AM on 04/21/2012
EAT MORE D0G!
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Flying Dutchman
Don't judge what you don't yet understand
05:26 AM on 04/21/2012
For crying out loud, if this is deciding your vote you've been watching way to much 'Dogs 101'.
06:33 AM on 04/21/2012
you can't attack mitty on issues he has none in all his speeches every third word is obama
04:26 AM on 04/21/2012
That White House chef - I don't trust him.
I heard him tell the President
A recipe that sounded grim,
An Indonesian dish. Hint, hint -
Made of a meat, that as a kid,
The President, with family,
Though tough, he ate it - yes he did.
And now that chef does wannabe
The preparer of a reserve
For Presidential lips to smack.
That chef looked right at me - what nerve!
I guess I better watch my back.

I'm kinda nervous, doncha know,
Ending up a burger be Bo.
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truthsayer4ever
Veritas In Caritate
08:19 AM on 04/21/2012
You really should try another tack - writing of any sort obviously is not your dish. Rather vulgar, rather grade school.