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Anders Behring Breivik Trial: Norway Gunman Says He Hoped To Massacre More

Reuters  |  Posted: 04/23/2012 9:44 pm Updated: 04/24/2012 10:09 am

OSLO, April 23 (Reuters) - The Norwegian who massacred 77 people to protest against Muslim immigration to Europe said on Monday he had hoped to kill as many as 150 and kept on killing because police failed to respond urgently to his phone call.

Breivik has given a detailed account of his car bomb attack at government headquarters in Oslo on July 22, which killed eight people, followed hours later by his shooting of 69 people, mostly teenagers, at a Labour Party island camp.

He said on Monday his "gruesome" actions were to prevent a civil war caused, he said, by a Muslim takeover of Europe.

"This was a minor barbarity to prevent a larger one", he said on the sixth day of a trial that has transfixed Norway.

"I've never ever experienced such a horrendous ... gruesome act as this. But it was necessary," Breivik said in his usual tone, lacking emotion. "It was much more cruel than I expected."

Breivik said he thought that at least another 150 people had drowned in a lake as they fled his gunfire so he called police to surrender, only to find himself forced to leave a message.

"I said 'call me back when you got the right person'," Breivik said. "I told myself 'I will continue until the phone rings'. I thought, I will continue until I die. What would I have done, sat by the pier waiting?"

COLD, MATTER-OF-FACT

Breivik has denied criminal guilt, insisting his victims were "traitors" whose multiculturalist views facilitated what he saw as a de facto Muslim invasion of Europe.

Most Norwegians have reacted with horror to his testimony, delivered in a cold, matter-of-fact manner, while there is wide public acceptance of his right as a defendant to give it.

Breivik has had almost free rein to issue warnings against immigration and explain how he scoured the Internet for bomb-making information while writing a 1,500-page document declaring himself part of a secretive group that is Europe's answer to al Qaeda - a group the police have said likely does not exist.

Breivik said he spared some people, including a 10-year-old boy whose father was his first victim, and a Labour Party activist because he looked right-wing.

"Some people have the type of look that is associated with the leftist movement," Breivik said.

"This person, (Adrian) Pracon appeared right-wing, that was his appearance. That's the reason I didn't fire any shots at him," said Breivik, 33, whose sanity or lack of it is a prime issue to be determined in the trial.

The 22-year-old Labour party youth wing activist earlier told Reuters: "I remember him pointing the gun at me for quite a long time before he took it down, turned and walked away."

Breivik told how he used a fake police uniform to trick people into coming out of hiding and then shot them at close range.

"I started with 'have you seen him, do you know where the shots came from?' ... then I said 'there's a rescue boat that's going to take you to safety but you need to come out'," he said.

FIRST APOLOGY

Later in the rampage, which lasted more than an hour, Breivik came upon Pracon again as he played dead, and this time shot the son of Polish immigrants through the shoulder.

He said he spared the boy's life because "I could not understand what such a little boy was doing at a political indoctrination camp."

But he said he had no qualms about killing teenagers. His victims were as young as 14. "They were not children, under the legal definition only under 14 are children ... they were political activists," he said.

Breivik issued his first seeming apology, to innocent bystanders hurt or killed when his 950-kg fertiliser bomb went off in Oslo. More than 200 were injured.

"To all of those ... I want to say I am deeply sorry for what happened," he said. "But what happened, happened."

Ahead of the trial, which is expected to last 10 weeks, one court-appointed team of psychiatrists concluded that Breivik was psychotic while a second found him mentally capable.

If Breivik is deemed sane, as he hopes to be, he could face a 21-year prison sentence with indefinite extensions for as long as he is considered dangerous. (Editing by Janet Lawrence)

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Anders Behring Breivik, a right-wing extremist who confessed to a bombing and mass shooting that killed 77 people on July 22, 2011, arrives for a detention hearing at a court in Oslo, Norway, Monday, Feb. 6, 2012. (AP Photo/Heiko Junge, Scanpix Norway)

Breivik is charged with terrorism and premeditated murder for a bombing in Oslo's government district, killing eight, and a shooting attack at a political youth camp, killing 69. He admits to the attacks but rejects criminal guilt. If convicted he would face a maximum sentence of 21 years in prison, though sentences can be extended if a criminal is considered a menace to society. If declared insane by the court, he would be committed to psychiatric care. Both sides can appeal the ruling to a higher court.

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Doug Sandlin
We See The World Not As It Is But As We Are
09:20 PM on 04/24/2012
Interesting article highlighting the links between Breivik, anti-Islam pundits, and the negative effects of their error-based views (above and beyond Breivik's mass-murders, I mean).

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/04/24/dealing-with-the-real-anders-breivik/
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OBroadhurst
My politics do not meet guidelines.
07:11 PM on 04/24/2012
This man is not a lunatic. He is not insane. He is an ideologue. His actions are the logical fruit of a particular set of beliefs that dehumanize a specific religious community. Where such Islamophobic hatred may be found, we shall find more who hope to do what he has done. We dismiss the threat he represents at our peril.
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Runey
religion is why we can't have nice things.
02:31 PM on 04/24/2012
21 years? for 77 people?

Aside from that.. how far of a stretch would it be for a sociopath who can murder dozens of people from putting on an act of insanity?
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theXepicXturtle
I Vote 3rd Party. Sue me.
01:01 PM on 04/24/2012
Poster boy of the GOP.
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sanfran55
11:52 AM on 04/24/2012
Just scary no one picked up on his lunacy before the big spree killing...he obviously has hinges loose, but hides behind his bland, mediocre facade to blend with the crowd. What do his parents have to say in all of this? Were there any red flags before this nut became a full-blown homicidal madman? Was he on any psychotropic drugs before &/or during his murderous spree? Scary.
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LES TODD
11:18 AM on 04/24/2012
You dont need a gun to be a mass killer ...... you could do it with Legislation also and be just as guilty as he is .
El Justiciero
HP mods have NO sense of humor, obviously
01:17 PM on 04/24/2012
How about an example so we can see where you're coming from?
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
11:11 AM on 04/24/2012
He did not act alone.

He met with right wing groups in London in 2003.

His 'farm' was next door to a commando training facility.

Survivors say there were multiple shooters. 

There were several bombs, none of which were the claimed ammonium nitrate he was said to have purchased.

Links will be posted if this comment makes it through.
01:04 PM on 04/24/2012
Waiting on those links, friend.

And please make sure they are links to reputable, reliable sources. Not links to Fat Guy In His Underwear Blogging From His Mother's Basement.
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
02:27 PM on 04/24/2012
The sad thing is not that you missed the reporting in MSM, but that MSM never followed up. Not that I expect people to do much about it, just putting information out.
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
10:40 PM on 04/24/2012
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8657491/Norway-attacks-July-23-as-it-happened.html

"17.16 "We're not in any certain that there is just one shooter. We're investigating claims from witnesses about a second assailant," he says.
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collegeAvenue
01:18 PM on 04/24/2012
Absurdity.
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LES TODD
11:03 AM on 04/24/2012
So thats how far Fascism can take us , seems to be where Hitler took Germany !.
leftwingthom
girl, you thought he was a man, but he was a
10:38 AM on 04/24/2012
The guy's clearly insane, making it sound like he was witnessing it rather than doing it. The scariest thing though, is I can totally see something like this happening here.
El Justiciero
HP mods have NO sense of humor, obviously
01:19 PM on 04/24/2012
I can easily see this happening in America, when Obama is re-elected. There is already so much angry, violent, hate-spewing, rhetoric out there. People are looking for scapegoats for blame for their fears.
leftwingthom
girl, you thought he was a man, but he was a
01:15 AM on 04/25/2012
And what better scapegoat than an African American?
08:28 AM on 04/24/2012
"traitors" whose multiculturalist views facilitated what he saw as a de facto Muslim invasion of Europe"

EXACTLY what the right wing extremist Christians preach here on a daily basis.
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Bigeasy
Hillary 2016
08:24 AM on 04/24/2012
I'm against the dealth penalty but for this guy I would make an exception he has no remorse say's he should have killed more.
El Justiciero
HP mods have NO sense of humor, obviously
01:20 PM on 04/24/2012
I really think he's a complete psychopath. I don't think he's capable of feeling empathy.
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iconoclast
06:51 AM on 04/24/2012
send him to Iran
06:26 AM on 04/24/2012
An anti-jihadist who behaves like a jihadist...Did this moron ever looked at the mirror before he started hating on Islamists? He's just like them, why should he care about Islamists when he too is for repressing womens rights and imposing a state religion?
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Zilo
Indie--The GOP opposes critical thinking
08:17 AM on 04/24/2012
Exactly...
06:21 AM on 04/24/2012
I know this guy did some bad things, but to call him 'evil'?
That's taking it a bit to far.
08:18 AM on 04/24/2012
"Some bad things"! You must be living in another planet...
El Justiciero
HP mods have NO sense of humor, obviously
01:24 PM on 04/24/2012
I'm not one who usually goes for labels like " evil" which I find to be dismissive and unenlightening but in this case, I find it astounding that you would even think to argue that it's taking it too far. What more must someone do to be labelled "evil" by YOUR criteria?
05:51 AM on 04/24/2012
What a hu ha, killed 77 people, proved by confession-MINIMUM 70 years in prison. Close the chapter.
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LES TODD
11:14 AM on 04/24/2012
he dont deserve to live , he will make a life out prison , no matter how bad it is , i suggest the death penalty and then hell . sorry .
El Justiciero
HP mods have NO sense of humor, obviously
01:26 PM on 04/24/2012
I don't think he deserves to die. He wants to die. Death has a dignity with his belief of martyrdom. He should get fat and old and live an incredibly boring and lonely life in confinement, knowing that nobody will ever listen to him.