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Emily Herx, Teacher Claims She Was Fired From Catholic School For In Vitro Fertilization

By CHARLES WILSON 04/25/12 03:15 PM ET AP

Catholic In Vitro

INDIANAPOLIS -- An Indiana teacher who says she was fired from a Roman Catholic school for using in vitro fertilization to try to get pregnant is suing in a case that could set up a legal showdown over reproductive and religious rights.

Emily Herx's lawsuit accuses the Diocese of Fort Wayne-South Bend and St. Vincent de Paul school in Fort Wayne of discrimination for her firing last June. Herx, 31, of Hoagland, Ind., says that the church pastor told her she was a "grave, immoral sinner" and that a scandal would erupt if anyone learned she had undergone in vitro fertilization, or IVF.

The Roman Catholic Church shuns IVF, which involves mixing egg and sperm in a laboratory dish and transferring a resulting embryo into the womb. Herx said she was fired despite exemplary performance reviews in her eight years as a language arts teacher.

Legal experts say Herx's case illustrates a murky area in the debate over separation of church and state that even the U.S. Supreme Court has failed to clearly address.

Diocese officials said in a statement issued to The Associated Press on Wednesday that the lawsuit challenges its rights as a religious institution "to make religious based decisions consistent with its religious standards on an impartial basis."

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled unanimously in January that religious workers can't sue their employers for job discrimination because anti-discrimination laws allow for a "ministerial exception." But the justices failed to define who was and who wasn't a religious employee.

"The Supreme Court didn't give us a kind of neat little on-off test as to who's a minister and who isn't," said Rick Garnett, associate dean and professor of law at Notre Dame Law School.

In a similar case in Ohio, a federal judge last month gave the go-ahead for a trial in a lawsuit against the Archdiocese of Cincinnati by a parochial school teacher who was fired after she became pregnant through artificial insemination, which the church is also against. The archdiocese fired Christa Dias in 2010, saying the single woman violated church doctrine.

U.S. District Judge Arthur Spiegel said in his March 29 ruling that the ministerial exception did not apply because Dias was a non-Catholic computer teacher with no role in ministering or teaching Catholic doctrine.

However, Garnett said he believed the ministerial exception cited by the Supreme Court could be applied to most parochial school teachers.

"A lot of Catholic schools, including my own kids', every teacher brings the kids to Mass, is involved in sacramental activities. ... It's not just one teacher who teaches religion, religion is pervasively involved," Garnett said. "The key question is whether it would interfere with the religious institution's religious mission, its religious message, for the government to interfere in the hiring decision."

Herx's attorney, Kathleen Delaney of Indianapolis, disagreed.

"She was not a religion teacher. She was not ordained. She was not required to and didn't have any religion teaching. She wasn't even instructed about the doctrine that she violated," said Delaney, noting the ultimate decision would be up to the courts.

The school found out that Herx was using IVF because she told them about it when she used sick days for the treatments, according to the lawsuit. School officials didn't indicate until later that there was a problem, the lawsuit says.

Delaney would not say if Herx was able to get pregnant using IVF.

The diocese said that teachers, even those such as Herx who aren't Catholic, are required by their contracts to abide by Catholic tenets and "serve as moral exemplars."

Pope Benedict XVI as recently as February urged infertile couples not to use in-vitro fertilization or other forms of artificial procreation, which the church views as an affront to human dignity and the dignity of marriage.

The church believes that procreation should be limited to marital sex, said Dr. John Haas, director of the National Catholic Bioethics Center in Philadelphia. Also, clinics routinely fertilize more eggs than are implanted, and extra embryos may be destroyed. The church believes those lives are sacred, Haas said.

"To have a child by in vitro almost invariably results in the death of a number of embryos as one works to bring one to term," Haas said Wednesday.

Herx's lawsuit, filed Friday in U.S. District Court in Fort Wayne, alleges the diocese violated the Civil Rights Act and the Americans with Disabilities Act by discriminating against Herx based on gender and on infertility, which is considered a disability. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission upheld Herx's complaint in January.

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INDIANAPOLIS -- An Indiana teacher who says she was fired from a Roman Catholic school for using in vitro fertilization to try to get pregnant is suing in a case that could set up a legal showdown ove...
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06:12 PM on 04/23/2013
The Pastor and the School had no right to fire this teacher. Even if you go along with the Catholic employer exception for providing contraception and insurance for abortion, which I don't by the way, this employee was not hired as a member of clergy or as a catechist. She was hired as an art teacher. Not even necessary that she even be a practicing Catholic - in fact illegal for the school to require any specific religious belief to hire her for that position.
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Sheryl L Bratcher
Only we make can make a difference.
12:07 PM on 12/10/2012
Ya know, as much as I'd like to take her side I have to say I can't.

When you take a teaching job at a private Roman Catholic school you have to abide by their rules. Whether you agree with them or not. This is a religious institution. They teach students not only the required academia but also religious doctrine. And although she probably wouldn't mention it to the kids but should they find out about it then it would cause problems.

Forgive me for not being sure of the answer to this but aren't the Roman Catholics rules as strict as the Hasidic Jews rules in regard to doctrine and tradition?
03:29 PM on 10/24/2012
When you teach at a Catholic School you sign a contract. In the contract, you are informed that
if you violate church doctrine you will be fired. End of Story.
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iowastate
04:13 AM on 08/24/2012
also this is a private school so she hired as a contract worker and that makes the terms of her employment much different than if she were a public school teacher.
public schools have to allow their teachers to get away with all sorts of hijinks because of the layers of protection that the students are not allowed from inept instructors and there are plenty of them due to tenure.
with contract workers you keep your employer happy or you are gone
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iowastate
04:03 AM on 08/24/2012
Even though separation of church and state is not in our constitution but was only in the constitution of the USSR.

the American constitution includes "Freedom of Religion" and the separation that is so widely talked about is never mentioned.

Christians in general give me a pain.
Catholics whether you agree with them or not you know where they stand - they at least follow the same rules all the time. Protestants are willy nilly and you never know where they stand because there are so many different cults/sects.
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Jeremy Ailes
renaissance geek
07:11 AM on 11/27/2012
Are you kidding me? The clergy using their influence to take advantage of children and then covering it up has been seen several times over the years!

I guess you're right though, we know where they stand on that.
12:50 PM on 08/21/2012
The Catholic faith is ridiculous, makes me glad I disowned it. Maybe this woman thought honesty is the best policy. She wanted a family, couldn't have one naturally and decided to get help. Isn't one of the lines in the bible be fruitful and mulitiply? And before anyone goes spouting that she could have adopted, it is next to impossible to adopt a child in America. I don't think anyone, ANYONE, should have a right to tell a woman what she can and cannot do with her body.
06:59 AM on 07/02/2012
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05:46 PM on 06/03/2012
Can someone tell me where in the bible does it say that IVF is a sin?
03:11 AM on 05/07/2012
But, pedophilia by the clergy is fine? The Church has always felt threatened by science.
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Michael D OBrien
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01:59 PM on 04/14/2013
Dumb, flat-out dumb................
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Dave Hellbent
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07:52 PM on 05/03/2012
So women can't use contraception to prevent pregnancy, can't elect to have an abortion in the event of an unplanned pregnancy and they can't elect to undergo IVF treatments in an attempt to circumvent infertility. Any choice other than total submission is immoral...

But adultery, rape, slavery, murder, infanticide and genocide are perfectly fine...

Why do women still believe in this heap of BS?
02:26 AM on 05/04/2012
Since the Church does not approve of 'adultery, rape, slavery, murder, infanticide and genocide', you are in perfect agreement with Her.
05:35 PM on 06/03/2012
Actually in the bible it does state that it is okay to have a slave, that a slave is your property. The rest is looked down apon but you also have to realize a lot of catholic priest are under fire for their roles in molesting children. So their not so heavenly as they appear.
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ver1tas
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02:29 PM on 11/22/2012
Yeah, "does not approve" but will forgive you for doing any and/or ALL of the above anyway. Not approve my____, you can feed that to the rest of the fools that fall for this nonsense.
Chigirl60
You Get What You Tolerate
09:57 AM on 05/02/2012
How did IVF get on the menu for morally abhorrent activity?
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bryanzth
Honest to Goodness USA Patriot!
08:24 PM on 05/02/2012
Apparently it's not in the Bible. Neither are expensive Cadillacs.

BZ.
02:27 AM on 05/04/2012
Read the story.
12:18 AM on 05/02/2012
This is another example where people would be better off keeping their business to themselves. If she had simply said she needed to go to the doctor, the school would not have know why and there never would have been any problem.

Honestly, why does everyone feel compelled to share such intimate details of their sex lives, etc???
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VictoryBlue
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11:36 AM on 05/02/2012
Did she use her insurance? I don't think it was mentioned in the story but if she did, her employer would have access to that information. Did she share it with the school?? Funny, that information isn't included in the story. So, how do you know she spread that info around the school? Since, we have the Right pushing for allowing emploers to decide what is covered and isn't covered by insurance, is it possible that someone found out she used her insurance for the IVF and then the school found out and ousted her? We don't know and the story doesn't tell us but I doubt you'd amend your comment on this tidbit of info.
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sherbertson
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01:18 AM on 07/22/2012
She mentioned it when she used sick days to go for the IVF visits. It's in the article.
02:20 PM on 05/02/2012
This comment right here is what is wrong with discourse. You have jumped to the conclusion, with no evidence, that she explained an absence one day by announcing she was going to get IVF treatment. Seriously? How did you come to this conclusion?
07:20 PM on 05/02/2012
Hahaha. Read the article guys, it says:
"The school found out that Herx was using IVF because she told them about it when she used sick days for the treatments, according to the lawsuit"

Not certain, but I think there are legal privacy restrictions on what an insurance company can disclose to an employer.
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Ivo Dude
I didn't think the water would be this cold
04:53 PM on 04/30/2012
If a religious organization operates a service (school) within a democracy, then, it needs to respect the tenants of that democracy.

We have come to appreciate equal protection for all under the Constitution despite many challenges.
08:13 PM on 05/01/2012
The rule you put forth places religion at the complete mercy of government - the Constitution expressly forbids that.

Incidentally, we are a democratic republic, not a democracy..
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Ivo Dude
I didn't think the water would be this cold
11:37 PM on 05/01/2012
Thank you for pointing out that we are a democratic republic; poor choice of words on my part. Democracy seems an overused and misused word.

I think in a republic there should be a healthy dialogue regarding how power is to be shared and implemented but after over a millennium of government being dominated by religion we decided to have only 3 branches of government in the US. Religious rights and practices are to be respected, yes; but not with they interfere with personal liberty.
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George Genung
10:48 AM on 05/02/2012
As opposed to Catholic Hospitals, which are major corporations, this time I would side with you Asmondius. The school is normally part of the parish and directly related to the church itself. So, while I disagree with the theology, I do agree that in this instance, the Church has a right to set its own rules.
08:20 AM on 05/05/2012
The tenants of democracy? We should alway determine the morality of an action especially in the area of science. The end does not justify the means. IVF is not protected under the Constitution.
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Ivo Dude
I didn't think the water would be this cold
02:37 PM on 05/06/2012
I am always a little nervous about Churches setting their own extra legal rules. Jim Jones, Randy Jefts, David Coresh, and the Spanish Inquisition all speak to this caution.

Which end, which mean, which morality?

IVF not protected under Constitution? Space travel, chemotherapy, and heart surgery are not protected under the C either. But I think reasonable personal liberty in the context of a civil framework is protected.

Yes, schools are part of the parish but they serve the COMMUNITY and are partially supported by individuals who are not in the parish. If the church is performing and profiting from a service to the community, then it needs to consider and respect rules under the civil frameworks.
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greengrl
The more you know, the less you believe.
03:11 PM on 04/30/2012
Why would you choose to work for an organization that required you to follow tenants of a belief system that you do not agree with? If she didn't want to follow their beliefs then she should not have taken the job.
05:27 PM on 04/30/2012
So you can starve because you were fired or you can starve because you refused to take the job? Some choice!

Seems like a position of power versus a position of no power, and why do you favor the ones in power?

FreddieVee
08:24 AM on 05/05/2012
Her freedoms end where theres' begin. She does not have the right to engage in actions that are opposed to their codes of behavior when she is employed at their institution. It is not a question of power, but rather respecting the rights of others to protect their beliefs within their own institutions.
08:50 AM on 05/01/2012
People can't be picky about what job they take these days. Also, she'd been there for years. She may have been a Catholic when she started but her beliefs may have changed over time. Regardless, there was no legitimate basis for firing her. Her personal life is none of their business and this "scandal" would be no worse than one of the students getting pregnant, which happens more often than you'd think in a Catholic school.
08:14 PM on 05/01/2012
I doubt many grammar school students are becoming pregnant.
04:04 PM on 10/24/2012
Next thing, it will be OK for a teacher at a Jewish school to bring in a Ham sandwich for lunch and expect that they would not get fired. For those who are not familar with Jewish Law, Ham is not allowed in there diet or in any place that is kosher.
02:22 PM on 04/30/2012
I don't know if this is the case but if they are getting any kind of state aid they should have to fallow the same laws as everyone else. You are ether separate from the state and get no money or you get money and you have to fallow the same laws as everyone else.
08:19 PM on 05/01/2012
Catholic parochial schools typically do not receive any state aid.

There is no indication that this one in particular does.
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Dave Hellbent
Democrat • Athiest • Realist
07:41 PM on 05/03/2012
Ever hear of vouchers that Republicans are so fond of... Its a great way of funneling public funds to private institutions without the regulatory constraints...

just sayin
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SylvreWolfe
10:10 PM on 05/06/2012
They do and the Catholic Church also receives federal aid and tax exempt status. They should be required to abide by rules of equality.