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West Virginia To Drug Test Enrollees In Workplace Training Program

Posted: 04/25/2012 12:36 pm Updated: 04/25/2012 2:40 pm

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West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin (D)

West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin (D) issued an executive order Tuesday that will soon require West Virginians enrolled in state job training programs to prove they're not on drugs.

"I continuously hear from business leaders located all across the state, that they have jobs available but the candidates cannot pass a pre-employment drug screening," Tomblin said in a statement. "When this happens we have wasted taxpayer dollars, hurt our businesses, and limit our economic growth. My executive order will save taxpayer dollars by insuring graduates of Workforce West Virginia training are drug-free and ready to work.”

In his statement, the governor did not provide details about the rate at which job applicants trained by the state had been flunking potential employers' drug tests, but his complaint is a common one across the country. More than a dozen states have considered bills to drug test the unemployed, and more than 30 have mulled testing welfare applicants, with lawmakers frequently pointing to complaints from local businesses that job candidates can't pass drug tests.

Steve Roberts, president of the West Virginia Chamber of Commerce, said his organization supports the order. Roberts said he travels the state and hears all the time from businesses about workers disqualifying themselves with drug use.

"We recognize very clearly a problem exists," Roberts said. "Let's see how this works. If it works, we'll know we're on to something. If it doesn't work, we'll know we need to figure out something new."

Tomblin's order will require anyone seeking training services funded by Workforce West Virginia to pass a drug test. People who test positive for drugs once will be ineligible for training for 90 days, and if they test positive twice, they will be barred for a full year. The testing scheme is similar to one launched in Indiana last year.

Indiana's testing regime has shown a low rate of drug use among jobless workers in the state's training program, according to the latest data from the Indiana Department of Workforce Development. Of 3,106 people who peed in cups, just 68 tested positive for drugs, for a fail rate of 2.2 percent. A similarly low rate of drug use occurred among Florida welfare applicants subjected to a drug testing law last year.

By contrast, national statistics show the rate of drug use among the general population is above 8 percent, and above 17 percent for people without jobs.

Roberts suggested a low rate of drug use among people tested in a training program might just speak to the deterrent power of the testing. Labor advocates, for their part, suspect politicians pushing drug tests are less interested in confronting a public health problem than in appearing to crack down on beneficiaries of government spending.

"While generalizations about vast numbers of workers not being able to pass routine drug tests are commonplace these days, thus far, every effort to crack down on this supposed epidemic has caught a scant few workers who were actually engaging in any substance abuse," Judy Conti, a lobbyist for the National Employment Law Project, said in an email.

"I expect the results in West Virginia may be the same as elsewhere," she continued. "Rather than scapegoating job seekers en masse, private industry and state departments of labor and commerce should be turning their attention to making sure that jobs are good enough that workers want to compete for them, and that workers are given ample pre-job and on-the-job training so that they and local businesses can succeed."

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West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin (D) issued an executive order Tuesday that will soon require West Virginians enrolled in state job training programs to prove they're not on drugs. "I continuous...
West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin (D) issued an executive order Tuesday that will soon require West Virginians enrolled in state job training programs to prove they're not on drugs. "I continuous...
 
 
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Gaylord P Farqua 02:17 PM on 04/25/2012
Screening potential employees to avoid druggies is not unreasonable but the tests must be carefully applied. Far too often a person who is not using illegal drugs may get unfairly excluded from a chance at a job because of some testing fluke. The least the testers should do is to carefully review  the medication/medical history of any applicant who  fails even to the extent and even what they eat.  Read More...
03:16 PM on 05/15/2012
the solution to this problem is to LEGALIZE MARIJUANA, its the only drug that shows up in drug tests for up to a month, so these people can smoke crack and pass a test a couple days later but smoke a joint and be screwed for a month, somethings wrong with this picture
08:58 PM on 04/30/2012
They should do it in every government office and election office
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demilieu
Texas liberal...with reservations
03:22 PM on 04/29/2012
thank god they can't read our minds. yet...
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demilieu
Texas liberal...with reservations
03:16 PM on 04/29/2012
being poor in america...is getting like being on probation.
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dimplesmile7
07:55 PM on 04/26/2012
What does this have to do with job creation? This is a waste of tax payer money. Maybe the politicians pushing the drug testing should lead by example. Drug test every one on Wall Street. You would have to clear out Washington, DC and Wall Street too. They would not pass a drug test.
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demilieu
Texas liberal...with reservations
03:18 PM on 04/29/2012
the wealthy will only breath easy when all poor people in america are incarcerated. the poor only have 2 places: working for 'them' or in prison.
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LVNVprog
President Elizabeth Warren - 2016
08:51 PM on 04/25/2012
I want my Politicians Drug Tested after they pass an IQ test.
02:19 PM on 04/26/2012
You'd only need a few pee cups, maybe 8-10 total...
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dimplesmile7
07:48 PM on 04/26/2012
Fanned!
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CaptainRenault
Here to keep an eye on the rascals.
07:15 PM on 04/25/2012
Just another grandstanding idiot with an idea that will do nothing to help people find work. Drug testing proves almost nothing, since Friday night's joint can still show up two weeks later on a drug test. This has nothing to do with employability and everything to do with washing out people for no valid reason.

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TeeSC
11:10 AM on 04/26/2012
No valid reason?  I hardly think popping positive for any kind of drug is not valid.  I smoke myself but you better believe that if I applied for or had a job in government, I'd quit.

Priorities dude... get them straight.
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CaptainRenault
Here to keep an eye on the rascals.
03:13 PM on 04/26/2012
Oh, don't worry, dude, I've got them straight. Too bad you don't.

There is no automatic correlation between job performance and testing positive, for the reason provided by the example that I gave. . .When the company can establish said correlation, they they have due cause.

Drug testing is effectively an end around on the fourth amendment. People should not be required to give potentially incriminating evidence without due cause. End of story.

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demilieu
Texas liberal...with reservations
03:21 PM on 04/29/2012
ther point is drug testing is going to be used as a means of intimidation. it's not about making a better society.

if t was about making a better society, test-positives would be offered rehab options instead of being punished.
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Frenchautopilot
Liberté, égalité, fraternité
05:25 PM on 04/25/2012
What about corporate hand-outs? Our tax dollars go to all kinds of recipients without any strings attached.
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Frenchautopilot
Liberté, égalité, fraternité
04:04 PM on 04/25/2012
I think there's some Big Alcohol money behind this as well. Want a buzz while collecting that welfare check? Better stay away from the stuff that isn't generating any profits for a corporation with paid representation in gov't. But by all means, consume as much of the legal drug as you want.
03:09 PM on 04/25/2012
If you are relying on the government to pay your bills you should have to prove you're not spending our money on drugs.
03:26 PM on 04/25/2012
I'm gonna be a little rude but that is a dumb statement; and to show you why here is a broad list of everyone you are requiring us to drug test.

1) all elected officials
2) all school teachers
3) all fire fighters
4) all police officers
5) all EMS
6) all park rangers
7) any other government employee
8) all school children under the age of 18
9) all students going to a public university
10) all welfare applicants
11) all seniors who receive medicare/medicaid
12) all parents/children who receive insurance through the state
13) all unemployed people (despite the fact they have a lower drug rate than the general population)

I am getting a little tired of listing everyone you'd require a drug test from, and I haven't even touched on how expensive your idea is.
03:44 PM on 04/25/2012
Let me rephrase. If you are receiving government assistance through welfare or food stamps or free health care. Or any other type of help to pay a bill that the rest of us have to pay ourselves you should be obligated to prove that you are not on drugs. If you want to smoke a joint, that's fine by me, but don't expect to receive tax payer money.
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Wonder Woman2
Whats a micro-bio?
01:47 PM on 04/26/2012
Ahem you forgot farm subsidies.......
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CaptainRenault
Here to keep an eye on the rascals.
07:16 PM on 04/25/2012
What a load of horse puckey!

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rhdsma
03:08 PM on 04/25/2012
Why are conservatives bent on probing us to see if we qualify for benefits to citizenship. Did they have all the wall street bankers tested first to see if they qualified for their bailout?
03:27 PM on 04/25/2012
they may been tested..but they don't owe you any results. they're not being personally paid by govt handouts.
02:57 PM on 04/25/2012
idiots
02:43 PM on 04/25/2012
No job if you smoked a joint with your buddies at a barbeque two weeks ago but it's OK if you get paralized drunk every night. Marijuana takes 30 days to clear detectable metabolites from the body. Even crack cocaine or heroin clear the body after 5 or 6 days (at least for a urine test). So with suspicionless drug testing you can hire cocaine abusing drunks but no pot smokers. Great trade off. It might sound good to the "get tough on welfare' crowd, but it really does very little to detect dangerous drug users. Suspicionless drug testing is expensive and counter productive.
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VictoryBlue
Motorcycle rider, Legalization supporter, Texan
02:41 PM on 04/25/2012
Why is it everyone of these governers says that they spoke to business leaders who say they have jobs but no applicants can pass a drug test but they can never give one instance of it? Not one. Even Florida, Scotty boy says that all those people need to be tested and once the test is done, there is little to no evidence. If you claim that so many in the state are on drugs but cannot prove it, WTF are you doing?
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Dante in Madison
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
02:35 PM on 04/25/2012
Ridiculous, program based on a faulty premise.

I think the people of that state should push to have ALL of their elected political leaders drug tested as a requirement to hold their elected offices. Have them tested quarterly.