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White House Tours Do Not Require Fetuses To Be Counted As Full Humans

Posted: 05/08/2012 6:24 pm Updated: 05/08/2012 6:33 pm

WASHINGTON -- Pregnant women are not required to count their fetuses as full human beings when registering for White House tours, contrary to some reports suggesting otherwise, the Secret Service said.

The Washington Free Beacon on Tuesday posted a copy of an email from White House Visitors Office director Ellie Schafer to a Capitol Hill staffer explaining the process for registering for a tour of the White House. The email indicates that pregnant women must include a baby in the count of guests if the child is expected to be born by the time of the tour, a line that some conservative news outlets say is akin to a pro-choice White House treating fetuses as people.

"We have received a number of calls regarding how to enter security information for a baby that has not yet been born. Crazy as it may sound, you MUST include the baby in the overall count of guests in the tour. It’s an easy process," Schafer wrote.

The email goes on to explain how to prepare for the tour: Provide the family's last name and use "Baby" as a first name. For date of birth, visitors are instructed to put the date of the request for the tour. Parents are asked to put M or F for the gender and update it at the time of birth. And since there wouldn't be a Social Security number yet, parents are instructed to enter 9 zeros.

"[N]ot the word nine zeros but 000000000 and yes it happens!" Schafer wrote.

Her email concludes with a note that, once the baby is born, the parents should email the White House Visitors Office to update their reservation with the baby's name, birthday and gender.

Max Milien, a spokesman for White House Secret Security, said it's not accurate to say that fetuses are counted as people on White House tours.

This notation device "simply serves as a placeholder for the baby once it's born," Milien said. "All White House guests are required to provide information at the time of their request for the tour, including for children and infants, and those expected to be on the tour once born."

Milien said the White House has thousands of visitors every day and that people sign up for tours months in advance, often canceling and rescheduling. By having a placeholder ready for a baby-to-be, it prevents delays when people might otherwise show up for the tour with a child not previously listed, he said.

"This policy was implemented so if you want to bring your children on a tour, we can account for them," he said.

Milien declined to weigh in on specific news reports suggesting the White House is treating fetuses as people. A White House aide also declined to comment, instead deferring the matter to the Secret Service.

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WASHINGTON -- Pregnant women are not required to count their fetuses as full human beings when registering for White House tours, contrary to some reports suggesting otherwise, the Secret Service said...
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02:38 PM on 05/09/2012
Of course it's not a baby, it's just a lump of flesh, squirt it out and throw it in the closet until it stop whining. That's the BHO way !
08:41 PM on 05/13/2012
No wonder you have zero fans.
05:39 AM on 05/14/2012
not goin' for fans, just the truth about our presidents position when it comes to such things.
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SionShankel
My opinons are all done sans pants
10:01 AM on 05/09/2012
Do right wingers not have jobs or productive hobbies or family to take care of? This is a lot of effort spent on nonsense.
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bernikitty
single mom of 3, new working RN
08:56 AM on 05/09/2012
the article is stupid and lame, another example of republicans trying One-upmanship.
they really suck at it.

the pic however, is adorable. love my POTUS and FLOTUS.
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bintalshamsa
Disability rights activist, multi-ethnic, polyglot
03:46 PM on 05/14/2012
That picture IS adorable! I'd love to have a picture of either of them holding my god-daughter or standing next to my daughter. *le sigh*
08:34 AM on 05/09/2012
First of all, that picture is absolutely adorable. You can tell that the First Lady is remembering when her daughters were that little. And the President is remembering having to change diapers.
Secondly, it makes sense that if these reservations for these tours are made months in advance and a woman at the time is far along in her pregnancy, they need to accommodate the new arrival in the future reservation. But of course, the right-wing nuts would never see something this logical.
OBAMA 2012!!!!!
holycowbatman
...Shift Happens..let's make it together...
04:51 AM on 05/09/2012
Yes, this is evidence of a pro-choice policy. Oh, and if you plan on taking a dump in a white house bathroom, you must subtract one-tenth of a person from your count, unless you ate at the congressional cafeteria, at which point you should plan on subtracting at least two-tenths.
08:23 AM on 05/09/2012
Republican: Really? That's true? Wow...that's amazing!

(I have to hear Glenn Beck say it to be sure though)
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bernikitty
single mom of 3, new working RN
08:59 AM on 05/09/2012
i find it amazingly repulsive how republican's minds work, but i must admit i'm surprised that you weren't able to work 'raping puppies' into that rant.
holycowbatman
...Shift Happens..let's make it together...
01:30 PM on 05/09/2012
damn, i always forget "raping puppies".. i get so distracted by my shiny GOP button
skykam
Sarcasm is a dish best served bitter.
03:58 AM on 05/09/2012
== The email indicates that pregnant women must include a baby in the count of guests if the child is expected to be born by the time of the tour, a line that some conservative news outlets say is akin to a pro-choice White House treating fetuses as people. ==

The reason these people don't also have to account for brains is that wouldn't add anything to the total.
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USAGramma
Somewhere in dog heaven Seamus wags his tail ;o)
01:16 AM on 05/09/2012
Do corporations need to give their date of birth?
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seiedvard
Tea-Party 2008-2012: You will be missed
03:49 AM on 05/09/2012
Only in a Romney White House
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ttsgw
Atheist and secular humanist
01:02 AM on 05/09/2012
Americans are truly crazy!
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rotorhead1871
who are you jivin' with that cosmic debris?...
12:20 AM on 05/09/2012
quit fiddling....Rome is burning....
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Rosalee Harris
08:09 AM on 05/09/2012
Actually its not. but if you want to keep saying that go right ahead.
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rotorhead1871
who are you jivin' with that cosmic debris?...
07:03 PM on 05/09/2012
actually it is to the tune of over a trillion $$$ of borrowed money per year....we are way out of wack....
11:43 PM on 05/08/2012
The folks at Free Bacon are obviously idiots...
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intragan
the gates to hell swing both ways
06:53 AM on 05/09/2012
pandering to their followers requires it to remain in business
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negogato
Strengthen the Nation with Equal Education.
10:17 PM on 05/08/2012
Anyone know the name of the baby with Obama and first lady Michelle? The women in my family want to know!!
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TotallyAmazed
Still amazed, and totally so...
09:38 PM on 05/08/2012
What stupidity is the article about?

They aren't counting fetuses at the White House.

What a great photo at the top, though. Love that picture of the First Lady.
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Allen Clark
08:48 PM on 05/08/2012
We have major problems going on in the white house and this is what we report on. Who cares? Does Obama recieve a cut of the fee for every head that walks through. Every cent counts
01:12 AM on 05/09/2012
The U.S. DOES NOT have "major problems going on in the White House". STOP LYIING!
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seiedvard
Tea-Party 2008-2012: You will be missed
03:51 AM on 05/09/2012
Perhaps that is how Bush bought his ranch
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
08:39 PM on 05/08/2012
Let the republicans decide and every women who enters the White House would have to declare their unfertilized eggs as persons. All 10,000 or so of them.
09:57 AM on 05/09/2012
And if that happens I think we should get a tax deduction for each one of those thousands of unfertilized eggs.
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
06:53 PM on 05/09/2012
I agree.
08:32 PM on 05/08/2012
Even when she smiles she looks angry.
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BigRex
We need to talk about your TPS reports.
10:31 PM on 05/08/2012
hmmm...I don't see it. Maybe its simply your belief that shes an angry black woman that colors your perception.
02:39 AM on 05/09/2012
Perhaps you are projecting your own emotions onto her. She doesn't look angry to me.