iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Elise Foley
GET UPDATES FROM Elise:

Dream Act Supporters: Bill-Killing Filibuster Was Unconstitutional

Posted: Updated: 05/15/2012 5:59 pm

WASHINGTON -- Would-be Dream Act beneficiaries aren't just angry that the bill failed in the Senate in 2010: Some also are joining a lawsuit seeking a court to rule that the cloture vote that killed it was unconstitutional.

Three undocumented young people were named as plaintiffs, along with four Democratic House members, in a lawsuit filed on Monday by nonpartisan lobbying group Common Cause. The suit goes after the Senate's filibuster rule, which forces a bill to overcome a supermajority (of 60 votes) to end debate, while passage of a measure requires only 50 votes.

The Dream Act, which would let some undocumented immigrants gain legal status if they meet a number of requirements, passed the 50-vote threshold in December 2010 with bipartisan support. But it fell short by five votes of the 60 needed to end debate.

"I was really frustrated when I saw the Dream Act; it was basically cheated justice," Caesar Vargas, an undocumented plaintiff on the lawsuit, said at a press conference on Tuesday. "I say that the Dream Act won by five votes. It was the unconstitutional filibuster that caused it to not proceed."

Legislative passage of the Democratic-sponsored Dream Act is nearly impossible this year, filibuster rule or not. The bill is opposed by a majority of Republicans in both chambers. The dynamics of the Senate have not changed enough to help it; the Senate would still fall short of 60 votes (as it did in 2010).

Still, the lawsuit is a new approach to advocacy for the bill and adds to a larger effort on behalf of filibuster reform that would leave the chamber less vulnerable to manipulation by the minority party.

"The filibuster had evolved into a monster, repeatedly rearing its ugly head, and it became the chamber's standard operating procedure," Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.), who is a plaintiff in the lawsuit, said at the press conference.

The lawsuit contends that the policy, set by the Senate itself, is unconstitutional because it is "inconsistent with the principle of majority rule."

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), frustrated by Republicans' blocking of a vote, said last week that he would support reform of the filibuster rule, flipping from his previous position that the policy should remain unchanged. An aide for Reid told The Huffington Post that he supports changing the filibuster procedure in the early days of the next Congress while the Senate is setting its rules. A 2011 effort by lawmakers to reform Senate rules failed.

Retiring Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), a moderate, said on Tuesday that she would be open to the idea of changing the filibuster rule as a way to ease partisan gridlock.

The suit's lead attorney, Emmet J. Bondurant, also a member of Common Cause, said on Tuesday that ending the current filibuster rule would be important regardless of whether the Senate comes under Republican control.

"This is a nonpartisan issue ... It will be just as wrong if it is used by a new minority party," he said at the press conference.

Those behind the lawsuit said they hope the Senate will reform itself but feel the lawsuit is needed to bring about the change if the chamber doesn't revamp its procedures.

"We believe that this lawsuit can stand on its own two feet, but if the Senate wants to be courageous next year and change their rules, let it be so," said Common Cause's president, Bob Edgar, a former Democratic member of the House of Representatives.

Celso Mireles, a plaintiff in the suit who would be affected by the Dream Act's passage, said it is important to remember how people can be directly affected by a filibuster.

"The filibuster is more than just a parliamentary abstract procedure," he said. "It affects real lives."

Also on HuffPost:

FOLLOW POLITICS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Hill newsletter!
WASHINGTON -- Would-be Dream Act beneficiaries aren't just angry that the bill failed in the Senate in 2010: Some also are joining a lawsuit seeking a court to rule that the cloture vote that killed i...
WASHINGTON -- Would-be Dream Act beneficiaries aren't just angry that the bill failed in the Senate in 2010: Some also are joining a lawsuit seeking a court to rule that the cloture vote that killed i...
 
 
  • Comments
  • 131
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Post Comment Preview Comment
To reply to a Comment: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to.
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3  Next ›  Last »  (3 total)
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
11:12 PM on 12/04/2012
Go home and apply like everyone else has and is doing to reside in this country
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Jonathan Munoz
2 things you can't argue with: crazy and stupid
09:13 PM on 05/31/2012
GO DREAM ACT
GO DREAMers

I'm Behind you :)
10:32 PM on 05/18/2012
Illegal immigrants pay taxes just like everyone else in this country. So many people assume that they are magically exempt from paying taxes. When you buy something at a store, you are not asked to provide information about your legal status in the country. Anti-immigrants think that cash registers somehow know whether a person is an illegal immigrant and removes tax from their purchase. These people take jobs that American citizens and residents refuse to do. Without someone performing these jobs, the entire economy would be negatively impacted. Illegals do not get any sort of government benefits or financial aid to pay for college tuition. You need social security numbers, visas, etc. for any of that. The statement that "illegal immigrants are taking our jobs" is completely false. If you think otherwise, then I defy you to find one job which is taken by illegal immigrants that American citizens would willingly take. Some people, such as Mexicans, are exempt from so-called visa lotteries and face other restrictions in the legal immigration process, leaving them with little choice other than to stay in the country illegally. When it comes time for tax returns, these illegal immigrants are unable to get much, if any, of their tax money back simply because they cannot verify their legal status in the country. Immigrants are what binds the U.S. together. Without them, we wouldn't be where we are today.
photo
voyager48
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
05:57 PM on 05/24/2012
Seriously? You need to stop breathing your own exhaust!

1 - Legal immigration from the Americas accounts for around half of all legal immigration into the US. We accept more legal immigrants form Mexico than any other country period. Also allocations for Mexicans in the lottery have been totally maxed out so don't even try to go there either.
2. Illegals pay tax and probably get bigger refunds than you do. Many claim dependents that are not their children and who often do not even live in the US. This results in an estimated refund of over $4bn per year! http://www.wthr.com/video?clipId=7054149&autostart=true
3. "I defy you to find one job which is taken by illegal immigrants that American citizens would willingly take" BS - you only have to look at Chipotle? Who do you think is now doing all the jobs that their fired illegals were doing???

Put down the Kool Aid and get real!
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Jonathan Munoz
2 things you can't argue with: crazy and stupid
09:06 PM on 05/31/2012
omg shut up with the Kool Aid, it is soo overused and not even that clever.

Illegals are sometimes better citizens than citizens because they know that we live in a country that is great. They are more American than some American. In their hearts they are more American than probably you and I are.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
BeasTT
05:34 PM on 05/25/2012
Illegal aliens pay very little in taxes, they do not make enough to even file, for those who do file. They also send home plenty in remittances.

How do you figure illegal aliens pay so much when they stand to make minimum wage or even less than that ?

Dude, smell what you're shoveling.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
11:34 PM on 12/04/2012
For your information,

THE SECOND LARGEST SOURCE OF HARD CURRENCY IN MEXICO IS FROM ILLEGAL ALIENS WHO CIRCUMVENT THE LAW AND SEND THEIR ILLEGAL EARNINGS (UNTAXED) VIA WESTERN UNION
02:37 AM on 05/18/2012
"I was really frustrated when I saw the Dream Act; it was basically cheated justice," Caesar Vargas, an undocumented plaintiff on the lawsuit, said at a press conference on Tuesday.

CAESAR, YOU EXUDE LAUGHABLE HUBRIS WHEN, AS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN, YOU DENOUNCE "CHEATED JUSTICE."
holyghostie
Spiritus est qui vivificat
07:38 AM on 05/17/2012
I'm for granting in state tuition to anyone who is a legal resident of the United States,
and whose family did not use federal/state monies to pay for their prenatal/maternity costs
of said student. If you got your kid for free....you should have to at least pay their tuition at the full rate.
photo
Karissa36
Saving lost boys and fighting pirates.
02:19 PM on 05/28/2012
Public school K-12 education costs on average $10,000. per child per year. That means taxpayers have already paid out $130,000. by the time the illegal student graduates from high school. This is for a person who cannot legally work in the U.S., making a college degree fairly pointless in terms of future income or future tax-paying potential.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Jonathan Munoz
2 things you can't argue with: crazy and stupid
09:07 PM on 05/31/2012
then let them work here and contribute back, problem solved
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
11:15 PM on 12/04/2012
In New Jersey and California is $22,000 not $10,000
12:28 AM on 05/17/2012
Undocumented = ILLEGAL. Why are we not deporting these arrogant young people who think they they are somehow entitled to not obey the laws of the country that they want to be part of.
holyghostie
Spiritus est qui vivificat
07:39 AM on 05/17/2012
What I do is report the individual protest leaders to ICE for deportation. Any citizen can do that with a little info on the illegal.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Jonathan Munoz
2 things you can't argue with: crazy and stupid
09:10 PM on 05/31/2012
They are not arrogant, you thinking you're better than them.

I know a few and they are not arrogant, they want a shot at life, like you and I enjoy. We are privileged to live in America and live in the fruits of it.

But you would probably be one to say, "Let them eat cake", guess what the last person who said that got her head chopped off in the midst of the French Revolution.

I'm sick of American arrogance, and people not wanting to help others. We are one world, screw the borders of the world. We are all humans and need to help everyone. Especially children who ere brought here without their knowledge and don't know anything but the US. They are as american as any other college ages student.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
11:18 PM on 12/04/2012
ARROGANCE? You must be kidding. Who feel that they should be "legalized" when they enter the country illegally?

WE are too generous and patient. Try to enter Switzerland or for that purpose Mexico illeghally and see what happens to you..

These people are NOT Americans they are ILLEGAL aliens. :Period
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
BrokeInSoCal
08:47 PM on 05/16/2012
Pass The Dream...to Mexico. Go leech off of that country to get your free education.
holyghostie
Spiritus est qui vivificat
07:39 AM on 05/17/2012
but in Mexico it would cost them money...
in El Norte someone else pays....
06:14 PM on 05/16/2012
Every time the illegal aliens get uppity like this they only end up making things worse for themselves.
photo
tmm77625
The winner is the one who stops first
03:49 PM on 05/16/2012
Ummm sorry, but the Court cannot tell the Senate how to conduct its business. Separation of powers and all that. Maybe they should study US civics.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Jonathan Munoz
2 things you can't argue with: crazy and stupid
09:11 PM on 05/31/2012
It's called judicial review and the court can strike down a senate bill
photo
tmm77625
The winner is the one who stops first
10:00 PM on 05/31/2012
Yeah, except, see, the rules of the Senate are not laws and not subject to judicial review.  They could have a law requiring the meet in the nude in a vat of jello, and the Court would have no power to say a peep about it.  BTW - the Court reviews LAWS, not bills.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
BeasTT
02:09 PM on 05/16/2012
Can we start deporting these people already ?

Enough of these people protesting, marching, and trying to tell us how to run our country. Arrest them and put them into deportation proceedings.

How dare a foreign national dictate how we govern our country and make our laws.

Send them home, hard and fast, with the provision that if they return, they go straight to jail for 10 years.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Jonathan Munoz
2 things you can't argue with: crazy and stupid
09:12 PM on 05/31/2012
How bout we deport you to an country you know nothing about, with no money, no home, and see how long you last ? :) ok
01:34 PM on 05/16/2012
Except is wasn't...
01:28 PM on 05/16/2012
Another example of illegals costing taxpayers money. Besides, this is absurd. The constitution says the senate gets to establish their own rules.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
sibyl9
Cloaking Device Engaged
01:26 PM on 05/16/2012
Resist those who would use our legal system to undermine our laws.
01:24 PM on 05/16/2012
A reasonable Dream Act solution is to only allow them to receive legal status and financial aid if they attend a 4-year university or join the military (no military education benefits). By having the 4-year university provision it makes sure the kids have worked hard, instead of simply receiving financial aid by going to a community college, which is vulnerable for a lot of abuse, besides a community college is not very expensive. Also, with financial aid, maybe don't even offer grants,maybe simply federal loans, which eventually have to be paid off. In other words, you have two choices: work really hard to a 4-year or join the military, if not, then no legal status. They can then take care of becoming U.S. citizens through the traditional process and fees. In fact, maybe even fine them for being in the country illegally, which can be used to offset the cost of documentation.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
BeasTT
02:05 PM on 05/16/2012
Attending a 4-year university is not enough. They must graduate at bare minimum.

If they don't, automatic deportation.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
11:24 PM on 12/04/2012
So what do you do with the other hundreds of thousands in Europe, Asia, Middle East that are waiting to migrate here legally.
photo
TexasTreader
Fluffy, the yard dog
12:35 PM on 05/16/2012
Repatriation by catapult, anyone?