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Afghanistan Army: Troops Complain Of Poor Equipment And Disrespect

By KATHY GANNON 05/20/12 12:45 PM ET AP

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In this Wednesday, May 16, 2012 photo, Afghan National Army soldiers walk over M16 rifles placed on the ground during a training at a firing range at the 203 Thunder Corps base in Gardez, Paktia province, Afghanistan. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

GARDEZ, Afghanistan -- They say their M16s are dust-prone antiques. Their boots fall apart after a couple of months, they complain, and many of their helmets are cracked and patched. Yet they set out on patrol.

They are the men of the Afghan National Army, the critical part of the huge machine being built to protect Afghanistan's security after the NATO alliance is gone in less than three years.

With Afghanistan topping the agenda at a gathering of NATO leaders in Chicago on Sunday and Monday, an Associated Press reporter and photographer traveling with Afghan army forces in Logar and Paktia provinces are hearing a mix of messages from dozens of officers and enlisted men.

The foreign forces are leaving too soon, the men say. Why then are attacks by Afghan soldiers on NATO forces increasing, killing 35 last year and 22 so far this year? Because the Afghans feel disrespected, the soldiers say. Handing out inferior equipment is disrespectful; burning Qurans, however accidental, is disrespectful; urinating on dead bodies, even Taliban, as video that emerged in January showed U.S. troops doing, is disrespectful.

Washington spent more than $20 billion in 2010-2011 on training and equipping a 352,000 strong army and police force – one of the costliest projects ever undertaken by the Pentagon.

Yet the footsoldiers don't have night-vision goggles to go after the Taliban under cover of darkness.

At the rock-strewn firing range of the 203 Thunder Corps in Paktia province, Sgt. Said Aga recalled his M16 jamming in the middle of a fierce firefight with the Taliban, and grimaced as his young charges aired their gripes about the Vietnam-era firearm.

"The Americans have really much better equipment than us," he said. "Our vehicles and weapons are very weak compared to theirs."

A soldier named Abdul Karim said he'd prefer a 30-year-old Russian-made Kalashnikov to an M16. The Americans "are giving us old weapons and try to make them look new with polish and paint. We don't want their throwaways," he said.

In Kabul, Lt. Col. Timothy M. Stauffer, U. S. Army Director, Public Affairs, rejected the complaints about aging weapons, saying the Afghans get basically the same firearms that U.S. soldiers have. "I am not sure their complaints are valid," he said. "The equipment they are asking for and are being issued is sufficient to meet the current threat."

Most American troops in Afghanistan carry the M4, a shorter version of the M16. Both models have been criticized by some in the military for jamming in harsh conditions and requiring greater maintenance. The Kalashnikov is known as an easier-upkeep, all-conditions weapon, fueling its popularity in the developing world.

At the firing range, the complaints flew thick and fast. Col. Abdul Haleem Noori grabbed a young recruit's foot to show a gash in the heel of his boot.

"It's only two months old and it is falling apart, and we are told it is supposed to last one year," he said. The footwear was made by a manufacturer under contract to the Afghan Ministry of Defense.

Even the 3-year-old army band bemoans their equipment, including soldered trumpets dating back to the 1970s.

The conversation with Aga, the firing range instructor, shifted from poor equipment to the disturbingly high number of so-called "green-on-blue" attacks, a U.S. military term for Afghan soldiers killing their NATO counterparts.

Aga, a squat man with piercing brown eyes, gave off a strange mix of resentment, envy and appreciation. He didn't want the international soldiers to leave. "We still need them to bring peace," he said.

Then he explained the issue of respect.

When foreign forces patrol with Afghan forces, "they don't respect us. When we see that they don't have respect we get angry. Even myself, I have seen how they behave in Afghanistan. They have sometimes been cruel. I saw in operations they have entered mosques, I have seen this myself."

Another complaint: The foreigners don't let civilians drive in front of their convoys even if they are rushing a sick person to treatment, referring to the heavy security measures U.S. troops impose around their vehicles.

Col. Ahmed Jan Ahmedzai said incidents like the mistaken burning of Qurans at Bagram Air Base makes recruits susceptible to Taliban overtures. New recruits are watched carefully for signs of sympathy for the Taliban, he said.

Because of the attacks, international soldiers are no longer present at firing ranges, said Col. Asif Khan Saburi, in charge of recruit training in five provinces.

"When we have shooting practice I have to look at two things: How my soldier is shooting and that he doesn't fire at the U.S. soldiers," he said.

The U.S.-led International Security Assistance Force in Kabul did not respond to several requests by The Associated Press for comment on the Afghan perception of a lack of respect.

In May last year, a U.S. Army team led by a behavioral scientist released a 70-page survey that revealed both Afghan and American soldiers hold disturbingly negative perceptions of the other.

According to the survey, many Afghan security personnel found U.S. troops "extremely arrogant, bullying and unwilling to listen to their advice" and sometimes lacking concern about Afghans' safety in combat. They accused the Americans of ignoring female privacy and using denigrating names for Afghans.

U.S. troops, in turn, often accused Afghan troops and police of "pervasive illicit drug use, massive thievery, personal instability, dishonesty, no integrity," the survey said.

Cobbling together an army in a nation at war for more than 30 years is daunting, said Saburi. Education has been stunted, ethnic divisions have hardened and the country is awash with weapons. At corps and brigade headquarters, soldiers are barred from carrying weapons because any altercation might explode into gunfire.

Communication is hampered by the fact that many Afghan recruits are illiterate villagers, he said.

A career officer, Saburi was less critical than others of the quality of weapons. He was satisfied with the heavy machine guns and sniper rifles being distributed to the army. But he said the rank and file were stuck with old M16s, instead of Kalashnikovs which he said are more suited to Afghan conditions. The army needs much more, he said: medevac helicopters, gunships, fighter aircraft, tanks.

NATO and the U.S. shouldn't leave in 2014, he said. "I think we need more time."

Meanwhile, the slow grind of daily patrolling never stops. In Logar Province, troops fan out along the hills, looking for Taliban and demonstrating their presence to the villagers. One of the soldiers, Mohammed Zaman, has written a little love poem to his country on the scratched surface of his helmet.

The men are fearless, says Col. Abdul Wakil Warzajy, a commander. They have taken hundreds of battle casualties, but good men alone don't make a good army, he says, adding: "An army is an army that is completely equipped."

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therealone
America won, baggers lost
06:30 PM on 05/21/2012
American Soldiers have been complaining about the same thing since '03.
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kilchis
We're all in this together
03:44 PM on 05/21/2012
You clean and oil it every day. It is your best friend.
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Dham4201
03:06 PM on 05/21/2012
maybe you should clean and take care of your equipment (firearms) and it will take care of you
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Val Mercy
In war, truth is the first casualty.
12:05 PM on 05/21/2012
"It's only two months old and it is falling apart, and we are told it is supposed to last one year," he said. The footwear was made by a manufacturer under contract to the Afghan Ministry of Defense.

Well! Someone just give him a copy of 'Atlas Shrugged' and he'll understand.
07:25 AM on 05/21/2012
"They say their M16s are dust-prone antiques. Their boots fall apart after a couple of months, they complain, and many of their helmets are cracked and patched. Yet they set out on patrol."

OK, the "dust-prone" part I don't understand very well. You CLEAN your weapon EVERY moment you have in a COMBAT environment!! THIS part isn't about poor weaponry, but poor training and comprehension!!
The boots part can be explained, you get what you pay for; our government charges top dollar to your government for good boots, but YOUR government buys "cheap"
boots and pockets the profits!!
Your helmets are cracked and patched, well refer to the boot program!
And, now, are your enemies complaining about what THEY use and wear?!
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terroristmd
09:52 AM on 05/21/2012
F&F...It sounds like you have been there or in an equivalent theater, I was just getting ready to post about the same thing.
11:17 AM on 05/21/2012
The only "theater" that I have been in is the U.S. Army, and where we were told to pay attention to detail! Cheers bud!
06:45 AM on 05/21/2012
It seems that most of what is sent to Afghanistan ends up in the talban's hands anyway. Who amongst the Afghani army can say they are NOT supporters of the talibs? They are all mired in the same filth. I feel sorry for the girls and women of that dispicable country...they are no more than chatels for their men and to give birth to sons. It is the same in every muslim country since the so called 'arab spring.' What a joke that would be if it was not so demeaning for all muslim women who must have thought they were heading for some kind of equality. The muslim male does not think that way. Women are not to be seen or heard, to be abused and assaulted as when the males feel like it. We only have to look at the so called 'honour murders' in the UK and elswhere. When muslim women can hold their heads up, have a public opinion, date and marry whom they choose, have children when they want and not be treated as the family slave then and only then can muslims and their religion be regarded as civilised.
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Val Mercy
In war, truth is the first casualty.
12:22 PM on 05/21/2012
I don't think you read the article. We are paying contractors for top notch stuff and they give the Afghans bupkis.
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05:46 AM on 05/21/2012
   The Americans are bankrupt and can no longer support the war.  The Afghan power elite will turn to China to come in with the technology that moves mountains and removes the precious metals and provides the Afghans enough to get by.  The Americans long ago lost interest in producing and innovating.  Their minds are on more important things of the mind and spirit and pocket book..  Meanwhile, servitude is in their future.
04:19 AM on 05/21/2012
let the saudi's pay for it with our oil money
04:08 AM on 05/21/2012
Yet the US Congress Republicans just keep sending more and more to the Military to squander away on bribery lining the pockets of the pretend contractors and crying foul when the deficit keeps getting higher and they can't seem to find anything to cut.
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Talab
I tot i taw a putty tat
06:35 AM on 05/21/2012
Both sides of the isle feed the MIC (Military Industrial Complex) about 75% of all money America can tax, borrow, or print . Every now and then a Politican will claim to be for reigning MIC in and putting MIC on a diet but it never lasts past the swearing in ceremony . One thing we can do is stop calling it a "Defense " when it hasn't been used in Defense of us in 67 years or so , It is an out and out OFFENSIVE budget item (in both senses of the word)
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archiehaditright
There is a little bit of Archie in each of us
03:00 PM on 05/21/2012
Not even close......both parties dine at the military trough. And while I support a strong and well equipped military, there is a lot of waste that goes on there just like anything the government touches. But to lay it at the feet of one party is wrong and speaks of bias.
02:13 AM on 05/21/2012
Money pit - Something of value, which, for some reason or another, has continued to absorb considerable amount of payments due to its continuing failure to live up to expectation.
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wayneriley
02:11 AM on 05/21/2012
Have we forgot that Bin Laden was living in a compound on the outskirts of one of their 'top' military bases? I don't think we should be giving these people anything at all. We're so worried about what the people of that region think about us, that we've lost sight of the fact that they flat out #$%&*! hate us. Back in the 80's when Iran and Iraq went to war, we backed Saddam Hussien. Gave him a crap load of military equipment, turns out that Russia was doing the same thing. Once he made bank on his bullets, he turned on everybody and... we all know how that has worked out so far. I think it is very foolish for us to provide arms to people who shoot at us. At this rate, we'll eventually be giving financial aid to the Saudis.
01:56 AM on 05/21/2012
The Taliban will most likely own everything we give them within a few months of our exit from Afghanistan so we would probably be better off giveing them nothing.

We should not be leaving in 2014, but this year.

What a waste our last decade has been in Afghanistan. Nothing is better, they still do no want us there, and we have wasted billions of dollars and thousands of lives.

We should leave now.
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06:58 AM on 05/21/2012
You should never have been there. The answer is simple, apologise, pay for the damage and f@~k off home. Having to show a little humility might make you select your representatives a little more wisely.
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terroristmd
09:53 AM on 05/21/2012
I don't agree and many like me feel the same way...We shouldn't have thrown 100,000 troops at a 3rd world nation but we still should a went there.
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archiehaditright
There is a little bit of Archie in each of us
03:02 PM on 05/21/2012
We should have gone there but as soon as the Taliban was under control and Al Queda reduced to nothing we should have left immediately. Iraq was the mistake.
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florishes
Business is good...
01:04 AM on 05/21/2012
Cry me a river afghans.
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We didnt start the fire
My Bio is my Myth
11:39 PM on 05/20/2012
I say give them 100 billion more to buy what they need and leave, we would save in the long run .
11:24 PM on 05/20/2012
With all the AK47'S captured or around that part of the world, why is the US giving them a complicated weapon like the M16 VS the simple AK which most of the Afghans own or have owned? Another misstep in our policy, KISS....works in almost any type of plan or operation...why complicate it, as for poor boots, most of them probably never had a pair till they joined the Army...what did they expect...MADE IN AMERICA boots? China is more likely the supplier.