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The Sun Also Rises: HuffPost Book Club Discussion

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Join our discussion on The Sun Also Rises by looking through our chapter updates, video updates and conversations below.

Andrew Losowsky, Books Editor
I'm British, so anything you think I've spelled wrong, is actually just spelled older. I look for stories to take my brain into new spaces, and I'll be particularly discussing the facts as we think we know them, and the clues I think we're being given by the story. Let me know if you think I'm wrong! I'll also be choosing a few facts to use as jumping-off points for tangential discussions.

Zoë Triska, Associate Books Editor
I was a Literature major so I can't help analyzing every single thing (from the syntax and language to metaphors, similes, you name it). I (reluctantly) admit that I'm one of those people who Googles phrases, places, names every couple of pages when I'm reading. There are constantly things that stump me, though so I'd love to hear your thoughts on the significance of words, places, phrases, events that take place in the book.

Madeleine Crum, Assistant Books Editor
I like looking at language particularities, but in case you think that's a snooze (you wouldn't be alone), I'm also interested in reading what critics say about books and whether their reviews are spot on or way off. Let's talk about it.

Annemarie Dooling, Community Editor
Quotes, locations and descriptions speak to me the same way characters do. I love dissecting the same details that tell us more about the story than the actual prose. If you read the same books over and over and over again the same way you visit an out-of-town friend, we're going to get along just fine.

Here's our reading schedule:
July 18: Chapters I - V
July 25: Chapters VI - X
Aug 1: Chapters XI - XIII
Aug 8: XIV - XVII
Aug 15: XVIII - XIX

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Because you are the world's very best reading community, we want to share something with you.

Out of Print makes these great t-shirts featuring the cover of Hemingway's "The Sun Also Rises" and they're giving us two to give to book club readers.

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To win an Out of Print shirt, scroll down to the comments and let us know in one short paragraph who your favorite character was and why. We've done a lot of discussion around our favorite flaws and relationships and now we want to know who you liked, related to, or loved to hate the most.

We'll feature some of our favorites through the week and pick one winner next Friday, 8/24.

Good luck and thank you for reading!

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I've made a page with the phrases I highlighted - both good and bad - as I read here.

-- Andrew

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@ JaneAddamsBooks : "This wine is too good for toast-drinking, my dear.You don't want to mix emotions up with a wine like that. You lose the taste." #hpbookclub

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@ collkell : "We could have had such a damned good time together" .... "Yes," I said "Isn't it pretty to think so?" - The Sun Also Rises #hpbookclub

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recortes bullfight

If you've enjoyed reading about the bull run in Pamplona, you'll love this contemporary account of blue-collar bullfighting in modern-day Spain written for us by Kati Krause.

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If you are looking for Brooke's photos and blog on Pamplona, please click here to read it.

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@ HuffPostBooks : Today at 4pm! We discuss the role of Spain in 'The Sun Also Rises' #HPBookClub

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If Brett Ashley was your friend and asked for your thoughts, what relationship advice would you give her?

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@ _GabeKarl : I dunno why, but the sentences on The Sun Also Rises feels short and abrupt when progressing to the end #HPBookClub @HuffPostBooks

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We'll be doing our next video chat on Wednesday, August 8th at 4pm ET where we'll discuss both the reading listed above, and Spain as it was for Hemingway and now. If you've been to Pamplona, leave your impressions in the comments below.

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Chapters XI-XIII

Question 1: Does Hemingway include unnecessary information in the text?

We asked our followers on Twitter whether they thought Hemingway included any unnecessary information in the text.

This was spurred by a recent comment on our book club discussion, which points out an odd moment in "The Sun Also Rises," in which Hemingway writes, "He was the archivist, and all the archives of the town were in his office. That has nothing to do with the story."

"I just thought this is such an unlikely piece of commentary, based on what I've read of Hemingway so far," our commenter, fatamo, wrote.

Thanks for reading along, ya'll, and join us next week to discuss Chapters XIV-XVI!

-Madeleine Crum, Assistant Books Editor

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When I was about ten, the local librarian contacted my parents to let them know there were no age appropriate books left for me to read in the young people's collection. She wanted to recommend books to me from the adult shelves. My parents said it was okay.

In the meantime, my father came into my room with his copy of The Hemingway Reader. It was, he told me, his own copy from college. I read the short stories first, having become hooked on the form through the weekly arrival of the Saturday Evening Post. Then I read The Sun Also Rises. There was certainly no inkling on my part that Hemingway's relations with women would become problematic for a segment of the culture in a few more years.

I first ran into the misogyny question when reading the book for the third time, while living in northern California during the second half of the 1970s and writing for The Berkeley Barb. A woman I knew found me engrossed in a paperback while seated at a café table on Telegraph Avenue. She asked me what the book was and I showed her the cover of TSAR. She tsk'd me and proceeded to fill me in with what was then the feminist line on Papa Hemingway. When we happened to be at the same party a week or two later, she brought up my scandalous reading habits and recruited a couple of her friends to help deprogram me from such macho influences. Call it a literary intervention. It didn't go anywhere.

Still loving Uke Jackson's thoughts on Hemingway. You can read the entire essay here.

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@ RonCharles : @HuffPostBooks Hemingway's stories have held up well. The novels not so much, except for SUN ALSO RISES & OLD MAN IN THE SEA.

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@ AuthorofPatches : My favorite last sentence in literature RT @HuffPostBooks We're discussing The Sun Also Rises live at #hpbookclub

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@ GoyoB : @HuffPostBooks You were talking about Hemmingways sex scenes and how there aren't many in his books. Read THE GARDEN OF EDEN.

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Here's the chats from "The Sun Also Rises" parts 1 and 2. Leave all thoughts below!

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We'll lead live discussion #2 tomorrow with your responses to these questions. Leave them below in the comments.

1. Brett: By now she's broken a lot of hearts and takes no prisoners. How are you feeling about her at the end of Book 1?

2. Robert Cohn: Is he just a sad sport or is he playing us all? Does he have something up his sleeve? He did convince Brett to spend time with him, after all.

3. The traveling trio: Bill, Jake and Robert - what role do each of them play in this story? What do his friendships with Bill and Robert say about Jake?

4. Hemingway's Jake: An accurate description of his travels, or a romanticized version of himself?

You can catch the live video discussion right here on this page tomorrow afternoon where the best community discussion points will be brought up.

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Here's Hemingway, his wife and the infamous Lady Duff in Paris.

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"Poor Hadley would be left out again when her husband took up with Lady Brett’s other progenitor, Pauline Pfeiffer, who in 1926 came to France to assist Mainbocher at Vogue. In addition to being a fashion writer, Pfeiffer was an accomplished journalist, an intellectual who fit easily into Hemingway’s Paris crew. It seems Hemingway’s rigid conception of a professional, globe-trotting man’s man—a fan of hunting, boxing and bullfighting—shouldn’t settle for pretty; he’d want damn good-looking. “Damn good-looking”—Hemingway’s highest female accolade—is also, in the form of Lady Brett, damn witty, damn intelligent, and damn good in bed."

Read the rest on the Paris Review!

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If you didn't catch the live chat today, don't worry, you can watch it below. But before we jump into next week's discussion, here are the top themes we discussed. Leave your thoughts below and we'll pull the best ones into the next chat.

1. Misogyny. Is Jake an accurate depiction of Hemingway or is he more a reflection of the romantic side of this author? What does Jake's impotence say about him and his relationship with Brett?

2. The "Lost Generation." Jake hangs out with a very specific group of folks. These outcasts (read: divorced women, prostitutes and "Jews") make up the band of people who surround both Jake and Hemingway during his time in Paris. Are they really a lost generation or were they setting in-motion a more comfortable time for artists?

3. The Iceberg Theory. How comfortable are you with the way this book is written? Would you prefer more prose with your novels?

Can't wait to read your comments and thanks again for reading.

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Wednesday at 4pm we'll be discussing "The Sun Also Rises" live right here!

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@ erinruberry : .@HuffPostBooks just announced its latest #HPBookClub pick and, because I'm a cliche, it's one of my favorite books:

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@ ilovethoseshoes : @HuffPostBooks I'm so in! Re: Hemingway's apparent misogyny, as a female middle school English teacher, I include him with gusto. :)

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@ theLiteraryMan : On Hemingway's muscular status in the Hipster-Literary-Bro Continuum: @huffpostbooks #HPBookclub

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@ TravelingAnna : About to announce the new #hpbookclub book. Hint: "You are all a lost generation."

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