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Bill Nye's Debate Of Creationist Ken Ham Has Some Scientists Bothered (VIDEO)

02/03/2014 12:14 pm ET | Updated Feb 04, 2014

Update (02/04/2014 6:40 pm EST): The debate has started. To follow, scroll down for live updates and/or just click here to watch the debate live on HuffPost Science.

The highly anticipated debate between Bill Nye and Ken Ham isn't scheduled to begin until 7 p.m. EST on Tuesday, Feb. 4. But scientists are already sounding off about the appropriateness of the debate, in which America's beloved "Science Guy" will defend evolution--a theory universally accepted as fact among mainstream scientists--against the dogma of young-earth creationism.

"I am thrilled that people will clearly see the contrast between a Biblical creation view and an atheistic evolutionary one," Dr. David DeWitt, director of the Center for Creation Studies at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va., said in a written statement. "This will be a very well watched debate and I think there will be people surprised at how much evidence there really is that supports creation."

But as you might expect, mainstream scientists aren't inclined to agree with DeWitt, given his affiliation with a conservative religious institution whose mission is "to research, promote, and communicate a robust young-Earth creationist view of Earth history."

Dr. Jerry Coyne, a professor of ecology and evolution at the University of Chicago, called the debate "pointless and counterproductive'' in an article posted on his popular blog, Why Evolution Is True.

"If Nye wants to further acceptance of evolution, he should just continue to write and talk about the issue on his own, and not debate creationists," he wrote. "By so doing, he gives them credibility simply by appearing beside them on the platform."

Coyne's comments echo those made by Dr. Richard Dawkins, the world-renowned evolutionary biologist and a public intellectual who has made it his policy to reject invitations to debate creationists.

"Inevitably, when you turn down the invitation you will be accused of cowardice, or of inability to defend your own beliefs," Dawkins wrote in a 2006 article entitled Why I Won't Debate Creationists. "But that is better than supplying the creationists with what they crave: the oxygen of respectability in the world of real science."

Whether or not Ham's views find much of this oxygen during the debate, there's little doubt that they lie far outside the scientific realm. According to NBC News, Ham believes that Genesis is literally true--that God created the Earth in six 24-hour days--and that the universe is about 6,000 years old. But overwhelming scientific evidence indicates that the universe is about 13.8 billion years old.

Complicating matters for Ham is the fact that, according to a 2013 telephone survey conducted by the Pew Research Center, 60 percent of Americans say that "humans and other living things have evolved over time."

Still, Coyne acknowledged his concern that Nye might run into trouble when he squares off against Ham at the Creation Museum in Petersburg, Ky. on Tuesday night. Coyne wrote on his blog that he was convinced Ham was preparing furiously for the "Ham on Nye" debate, adding that "I pray* that Nye is doing likewise."

What's the asterisk for? At the bottom of the post, Coyne--like Dawkins, an atheist--explained:

"I am praying metaphorically."

02/04/2014 9:57 PM EST

Final Thoughts

"The 'debate' largely focused on science vs creationism rather than evolution vs creationism. There was a lot about estimates of the age of the earth and geology. Not enough about the molecular, fossil, ecological, behavioral and experimental evidence for evolution. Many people might argue that it's pointless to debate someone like Ham. That's true, in that his beliefs are entrenched and he will not accept evidence that contradict them. However this is not for him. If others (especially children) who have never heard any counter-arguments to new-Earth creationist theology were exposed to something new today that made them re-think what they've been taught, then it's worth it." -- Dr. James Higham of New York University's Department of Anthropology

"I was very surprised by how Biblical/religious Ham went - usually the creationists/ID people try to hide behind the veneer of fairness, inquiry, etc." -- Dr. Todd Disotell

"Everything in the Bible that fits Ken Ham's current viewpoints is fact. Bill Nye confirms that the Earth is in fact ancient. I'm still stuck on Ham's acceptance of his 'kinds.' This 1) represents an emphasis on types, not variation, and therefore is the wrong way to think about things, including human variation and the exact thing that Ham attempted to pin on evolutionists-- race-- and 2) suggests to me that Ham is only a small step away from abandoning creationism and accepting evolution (although I'm sure he would never admit that)-- his giant leap was accepting that similar species can be descended from a common ancestor-- it's only one small step to the acceptance of humans as part of the animal kingdom." -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

02/04/2014 9:46 PM EST

Why Some Say Nye Won

02/04/2014 9:39 PM EST

Ha!

02/04/2014 9:37 PM EST

'Twitter Was Fun!'

02/04/2014 9:35 PM EST

Ham's Favorite Quote

02/04/2014 9:30 PM EST

'Keep Science Education In Science Classes'

Bill Nye: "We have to keep science education in science classes."

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/> TV's "Science Guy" Bill Nye speaks during the debate on evolution

with Creation Museum head Ken Ham, Tuesday, Feb. 4, 2014, at the

Petersburg, Ky. museum. Ham believes the Earth was created 6,000 years

ago by God and is told strictly through the Bible. Nye says he is

worried the U.S. will not move forward if creationism is taught to

children. (AP Photo/Dylan Lovan)

02/04/2014 9:28 PM EST

In Response To Ham

"Ham: 'I don't know of any other religion where the religious text starts like this one.' Ummm, I'm pretty sure the Old Testament is not restricted to Christianity..." -- -- Dr. James Higham of New York University's Department of Anthropology

02/04/2014 9:27 PM EST

In Response To Nye

"'Survival of the fittest'-- that's almost as bad as the phrase 'missing link.' Let's not resurrect these misnomers and misapplied phrases." -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

02/04/2014 9:24 PM EST

'Watcha Talkin' About, Willis?'

02/04/2014 9:23 PM EST

If Any Kid Watches This And Becomes A Scientist, Nye Wins.

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Science and religion compatible? Bill Nye should've asked for definition of god #creationdebate

— David W. Freeman (@davyfreeman) February 5, 2014

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Science and religion compatible? Bill Nye should've asked for definition of god #creationdebate

— David W. Freeman (@d...Read More"},{"id":"65","created":"02/04/2014 9:16 PM EST","title":"'Ham Gone Be So Mad'","tweet_link":"65_ham-gone-be-so-mad","entry_text":"

What if some zeros fell off bible scrolls & it says earth is 6,000,000,000 yrs old. Ham gone be so mad when he get to heaven #creationdebate

— DNLee (@DNLee5) February 5, 2014

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What if some zeros fell off bible scrolls & it says earth is 6,000,000,000 yrs old. Ham gone be so mad when he get to heaven #creation...Read More"},{"id":"64","created":"02/04/2014 9:15 PM EST","title":"Overheard:","tweet_link":"64_overheard","entry_text":"

Commentator: Is the entire Bible to be taken literally?

Ken Ham: \"I take the Bible naturally.\"

Member of Center for Inquiry: \"It means he picks and chooses what he wants\"

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Commentator: Is the entire Bible to be taken literally?
\nKen Ham: \"I take the Bible naturally.\"
\nMember of Center for Inquiry: \"It means he picks and chooses what he wants\"

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\"It's a long time since they discussed evolution. They've been focused for a long time on geology and physics - the age of the Earth, the Universe, plate tectonics....is this what the creation vs evolution debate is actually about then?\" -- Dr. James Higham of New York University's Department of Anthropology

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\"It's a long time since they discussed evolution. They've been focused for a long time on geology and physics - the age of the Earth, the Universe, plate tectonics....is this what the creation vs evolution debate is actually about then?\" -- Dr. James H...Read More"},{"id":"62","created":"02/04/2014 9:12 PM EST","title":"Ham Is Worst Kind Of Creationist","tweet_link":"62_ham-is-worst-kind-of-creationist","entry_text":"

\"Ken Ham is the worst kind of Creationist-- the kind that makes his fellow Christians feel guilty for being logical and accepting evolution and/or the ancient age of the earth.\" -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

","short_text":"

\"Ken Ham is the worst kind of Creationist-- the kind that makes his fellow Christians feel guilty for being logical and accepting evolution and/or the ancient age of the earth.\" -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center...Read More"},{"id":"61","created":"02/04/2014 9:11 PM EST","title":"\"What's Your Favorite Color?\"","tweet_link":"61_whats-your-favorite-color","entry_text":"

\"That question actually, this reminds me of a Monty Python sketch in more ways than one...\" -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

","short_text":"

\"That question actually, this reminds me of a Monty Python sketch in more ways than one...\" -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

"},{"id":"60","created":"02/04/2014 9:09 PM EST","title":"'This Question Means Everything'","tweet_link":"60_this-question-means-everything","entry_text":"

This question means everything. Ken said NOTHING would change his mind, and Bill said simple evidence would. #creationdebate

— Emma (@EmmaMammaJamma) February 5, 2014

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This question means everything. Ken said NOTHING would change his mind, and Bill said simple evidence would. #creationdebat...Read More"},{"id":"59","created":"02/04/2014 9:08 PM EST","title":"'Thank You'","tweet_link":"59_thank-you","entry_text":"

Crowd at Center for Inquiry live-stream viewing party cheers and says \"Thank you\" in response to Bill Nye's comment, \"The earth is not a closed system.\"

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Crowd at Center for Inquiry live-stream viewing party cheers and says \"Thank you\" in response to Bill Nye's comment, \"The earth is not a closed system.\"

"},{"id":"58","created":"02/04/2014 9:07 PM EST","title":"Modern Medicine Depends On It","tweet_link":"58_modern-medicine-depends-on-it","entry_text":"

If Ken Ham doesn't "believe" in evolution - can he please stop using modern medicine that depends on bacterial mutations? #creationdebate

— Bhaswati Chattopadhy (@BhaswatiChat) February 5, 2014

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If Ken Ham doesn't "believe" in evolution - can he please stop using modern medicine that depends on bacterial mutations? #c...Read More"},{"id":"57","created":"02/04/2014 9:03 PM EST","title":"Fact:","tweet_link":"57_fact","entry_text":"

\"Oldest rocks on earth, not asteroids, dated to almost 4.5 billion years old.\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

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\"Oldest rocks on earth, not asteroids, dated to almost 4.5 billion years old.\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

"},{"id":"56","created":"02/04/2014 9:02 PM EST","title":"Not A Science Question","tweet_link":"56_not-a-science-question","entry_text":"

Ham: what's the point of joy of discovery if when you're gone you're gone? good Q, but not a science Q #creationdebate

— DNLee (@DNLee5) February 5, 2014

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Ham: what's the point of joy of discovery if when you're gone you're gone? good Q, but not a science Q #creatio...Read More"},{"id":"55","created":"02/04/2014 9:01 PM EST","title":"Still Going Strong","tweet_link":"55_still-going-strong","entry_text":"

The combatants are still going strong two hours in.

\"bill

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The combatants are still going strong two hours in.

"},{"id":"54","created":"02/04/2014 9:00 PM EST","title":"'Without Being An Idiot'","tweet_link":"54_without-being-an-idiot","entry_text":"

Overheard: "You can believe the Bible is authoritative without being an idiot about it." #PubTheology

— Bryan Berghoef (@bryberg) February 5, 2014

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Overheard: "You can believe the Bible is authoritative without being an idiot about it." #PubTheology

— Bryan Bergh...Read More"},{"id":"53","created":"02/04/2014 8:59 PM EST","title":"'Is This Really Happening?'","tweet_link":"53_is-this-really-happening","entry_text":"

Is this really happening? in the 21st Century? Coming to a debate with ONLY a book w talking serpents, Noah's Ark vs. science?

— Brian Malow (@sciencecomedian) February 5, 2014

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Is this really happening? in the 21st Century? Coming to a debate with ONLY a book w talking serpents, Noah's Ark vs. science?

— Brian Malow (@sciencecomedian) Read More"},{"id":"52","created":"02/04/2014 8:56 PM EST","title":"In Response To Ham","tweet_link":"52_in-response-to-ham","entry_text":"

\"You can't observe the past, yet you are reading an ancient book?\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

","short_text":"

\"You can't observe the past, yet you are reading an ancient book?\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

"},{"id":"51","created":"02/04/2014 8:55 PM EST","title":"At The Creation Museum...","tweet_link":"51_at-the-creation-museum","entry_text":"

An explanation of 'Weeds' from the museum. Before 'Adam's Sin,' no plants grew in inappropriate places:

\"bill

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An explanation of 'Weeds' from the museum. Before 'Adam's Sin,' no plants grew in inappropriate places:

"},{"id":"50","created":"02/04/2014 8:54 PM EST","title":"Is This One Big Commercial?","tweet_link":"50_is-this-one-big-commercial","entry_text":"

This is just one big commercial for the Creation Museum. On that I gotta give Hamm credit for figuring out how to get free press..

— ProfB (@AntheaButler)
February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

This is just one big commercial for the Creation Museum. On that I gotta give Hamm credit for figuring out how to get free press..

— ProfB (@AntheaButler) Read More"},{"id":"49","created":"02/04/2014 8:53 PM EST","title":"There Are Christians On Nye's Side","tweet_link":"49_there-are-christians-on-nyes-side","entry_text":"

I think it is wrong to ignore that there are Christians who believe in evolution. #creationdebate #HamonNye

— ! (@bshel87) February 5, 2014

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I think it is wrong to ignore that there are Christians who believe in evolution. #creationdebate Read More"},{"id":"48","created":"02/04/2014 8:52 PM EST","title":"'Talking About Different Things'","tweet_link":"48_talking-about-different-things","entry_text":"

\"This is what Steven Jay Gould called NOMA (nonoverlapping magisteria)-- in many ways, Ham and Nye are talking about different things. Many of the things Ham is talking about cannot be tested via the scientific method; therefore, it's not science-- it's faith!\" -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

","short_text":"

\"This is what Steven Jay Gould called NOMA (nonoverlapping magisteria)-- in many ways, Ham and Nye are talking about different things. Many of the things Ham is talking about cannot be tested via the scientific method; therefore, it's not science-- it'...Read More"},{"id":"47","created":"02/04/2014 8:49 PM EST","title":"'Not Debating The Same Issues'","tweet_link":"47_not-debating-the-same-issues","entry_text":"

Sadly, Ham & Nye are not debating the same issues; making their own points not interacting with what the other is saying. #CreationDebate

— Amanda Pelser (@apelser) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

Sadly, Ham & Nye are not debating the same issues; making their own points not interacting with what the other is saying. #CreationDeb...Read More"},{"id":"46","created":"02/04/2014 8:48 PM EST","title":"'Still Confused...'","tweet_link":"46_still-confused","entry_text":"

\"Still confused by Ham's acceptance of 'kinds,' which he defines as the taxonomic level of Family, but not anything beyond that. What of seals (Family Phocidae) and sea lions (Family Otariidae)? Different families (=types) that either 1) share a common ancestor, or 2) represent separate creation events. If you can accept that, humans as hominoids (=apes) is on par.\" -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

","short_text":"

\"Still confused by Ham's acceptance of 'kinds,' which he defines as the taxonomic level of Family, but not anything beyond that. What of seals (Family Phocidae) and sea lions (Family Otariidae)? Different families (=types) that either 1) share a common...Read More"},{"id":"45","created":"02/04/2014 8:46 PM EST","title":"In Response To Ham","tweet_link":"45_in-response-to-ham","entry_text":"

Nye's long statement was perfect. Ham's rebuttal: dating methods are sometimes wrong, Mt. St. Helen's blew up, and "you weren't there!"

— Michael Shermer (@michaelshermer)
February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

Nye's long statement was perfect. Ham's rebuttal: dating methods are sometimes wrong, Mt. St. Helen's blew up, and "you weren't there!"

— Michael Shermer (...Read More"},{"id":"44","created":"02/04/2014 8:43 PM EST","title":"'How To Communicate'","tweet_link":"44_how-to-communicate","entry_text":"

With grace and wisdom @TheScienceGuy is teaching us all how to communicate with each other in disagreement. Brilliant. #creationdebate

— Lawrence O'Donnell (@Lawrence) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

With grace and wisdom @TheScienceGuy is teaching us all how to communicate with each other in disagreement. Brilliant. Read More"},{"id":"43","created":"02/04/2014 8:38 PM EST","title":"In Response To Ham","tweet_link":"43_in-response-to-ham","entry_text":"

\"You want to mention half a dozen engineers and scientists who believe in creationism? Let's take a vote of tens of thousands of scientists who are trained in biology, geology and astronomy?\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

","short_text":"

\"You want to mention half a dozen engineers and scientists who believe in creationism? Let's take a vote of tens of thousands of scientists who are trained in biology, geology and astronomy?\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

"},{"id":"42","created":"02/04/2014 8:33 PM EST","title":"Nye Is Unsatisfied","tweet_link":"42_nye-is-unsatisfied","entry_text":"

Bill Nye: \"Thank you Mr.Ham, but I'm completely unsatisfied.\"

","short_text":"

Bill Nye: \"Thank you Mr.Ham, but I'm completely unsatisfied.\"

"},{"id":"41","created":"02/04/2014 8:33 PM EST","title":"'Direct Observation Is Ultimate Measure'","tweet_link":"41_direct-observation-is-ultimate-measure","entry_text":"

Ham contends that direct observation is ultimate measure but then says word of God counts too, that's not observational sci #creationdebate

— DNLee (@DNLee5) February 5, 2014

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Ham contends that direct observation is ultimate measure but then says word of God counts too, that's not observational sci #creationd...Read More"},{"id":"40","created":"02/04/2014 8:28 PM EST","title":"'You're Looking At The Past Right Now'","tweet_link":"40_youre-looking-at-the-past-right-now","entry_text":"

"By the way, you're looking at the past right now. Because the speed of light bounces off of me..." Bill Nye, blowing nostalgic minds.

— Jessica Galliart (@JessicaGalliart) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

"By the way, you're looking at the past right now. Because the speed of light bounces off of me..." Bill Nye, blowing nostalgic minds.

— Jessica Galliart (@JessicaGalliart)...Read More"},{"id":"39","created":"02/04/2014 8:25 PM EST","title":"In Response To Nye","tweet_link":"39_in-response-to-nye","entry_text":"

\"Nye focused on scientific facts that can't be explained by creationism. Gave less on evolution. No discussion on what a recent development new-Earth creationism is in mainstream American Christian theology and the age of the estimate of the Earth from Primate Ussher and others.\" -- Dr. James Higham of New York University's Department of Anthropology

","short_text":"

\"Nye focused on scientific facts that can't be explained by creationism. Gave less on evolution. No discussion on what a recent development new-Earth creationism is in mainstream American Christian theology and the age of the estimate of the Earth from...Read More"},{"id":"38","created":"02/04/2014 8:23 PM EST","title":"Nye Fan Rocks Bowtie","tweet_link":"38_nye-fan-rocks-bowtie","entry_text":"

Meet \"Jay\" at the Center for Inquiry live-stream viewing party:

\"bil

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Meet \"Jay\" at the Center for Inquiry live-stream viewing party:

"},{"id":"37","created":"02/04/2014 8:21 PM EST","title":"'A Little Dry, Nye...'","tweet_link":"37_a-little-dry-nye","entry_text":"

\"Ham gave a more exciting, albeit absurd, presentation. A little dry, Mr. Nye...\" -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

","short_text":"

\"Ham gave a more exciting, albeit absurd, presentation. A little dry, Mr. Nye...\" -- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

"},{"id":"36","created":"02/04/2014 8:19 PM EST","title":"Did Nye Lose Focus?","tweet_link":"36_did-nye-lose-focus","entry_text":"

This is the only bit of criticism I'll share. I'm afraid @TheScienceGuy may be going into too much detail & losing focus. Losing audience.

— Caitlin S (@paleophile) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

This is the only bit of criticism I'll share. I'm afraid @TheScienceGuy may be going into too much detail & losing focus. Losing audi...Read More"},{"id":"35","created":"02/04/2014 8:18 PM EST","title":"Where's The Diversity?","tweet_link":"35_wheres-the-diversity","entry_text":"

Took a 15-minute listen to the #creationdebate... not a very racially diverse live audience.

— Nicola_A_Menzie (@namenzie) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

Took a 15-minute listen to the #creationdebate... not a very racially diverse live audience.

— Nicola_A_Menzie (@namenzie)...Read More"},{"id":"34","created":"02/04/2014 8:16 PM EST","title":"At The Creation Museum...","tweet_link":"34_at-the-creation-museum","entry_text":"

\"I'll give it to the Creation Museum. This is actually funny.\" -- Dr. James Higham of New York University's Department of Anthropology

\"creation

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\"I'll give it to the Creation Museum. This is actually funny.\" -- Dr. James Higham of New York University's Department of Anthropology

"},{"id":"33","created":"02/04/2014 8:14 PM EST","title":"This 'Hurts Science'","tweet_link":"33_this-hurts-science","entry_text":"

This "debate" is the definition of a fool's errand. It hurts science to stoop to that level. #creationdebate

— Anna Rascouët-Paz (@rascouet) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

This "debate" is the definition of a fool's errand. It hurts science to stoop to that level. #creationdebate

&mdas...Read More"},{"id":"32","created":"02/04/2014 8:11 PM EST","title":"The Tiktaalik","tweet_link":"32_the-tiktaalik","entry_text":"

The Tiktaalik is understood as representative of the evolutionary transition from fish to amphibians.#creationdebate pic.twitter.com/BCaAVROP51

— Learnist Tweets (@LearnistTweets) February 5, 2014

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The Tiktaalik is understood as representative of the evolutionary transition from fish to amphibians.#creationdebate Read More"},{"id":"31","created":"02/04/2014 8:08 PM EST","title":"'So-called Missing Link'","tweet_link":"31_socalled-missing-link","entry_text":"

\"Tiktaalik was discovered based upon predictions derived from evolutionary theory. A truly transitional form (so-called missing link).\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

","short_text":"

\"Tiktaalik was discovered based upon predictions derived from evolutionary theory. A truly transitional form (so-called missing link).\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

"},{"id":"30","created":"02/04/2014 8:07 PM EST","title":"\"I like you tiktaalik!\"","tweet_link":"30_i-like-you-tiktaalik","entry_text":"

Center for Inquiry crowd is cheering for Nye mentioning tiktaalik: \"I like you tiktaalik!\"

","short_text":"

Center for Inquiry crowd is cheering for Nye mentioning tiktaalik: \"I like you tiktaalik!\"

"},{"id":"29","created":"02/04/2014 8:05 PM EST","title":"At The Creation Museum...","tweet_link":"29_at-the-creation-museum","entry_text":"

There's this display showing a giraffe and dinosaurs entering a model of the ark:

\"creation

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There's this display showing a giraffe and dinosaurs entering a model of the ark:

"},{"id":"28","created":"02/04/2014 8:00 PM EST","title":"'Oh Brother'","tweet_link":"28_oh-brother","entry_text":"

Oh brother. @TheScienceGuy is using a scientific frame. Won't work. Need to explain that evolution is no threat to belief #creationdebate

— Chris Mooney (@chriscmooney) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

Oh brother. @TheScienceGuy is using a scientific frame. Won't work. Need to explain that evolution is no threat to belief Read More"},{"id":"27","created":"02/04/2014 7:59 PM EST","title":"In Response To Ham","tweet_link":"27_in-response-to-ham","entry_text":"

\"Ham's defense of creationism: everything from Darwinism is racist to marriage is between a man and a woman.\" -- Dr. James Higham of New York University's Department of Anthropology

","short_text":"

\"Ham's defense of creationism: everything from Darwinism is racist to marriage is between a man and a woman.\" -- Dr. James Higham of New York University's Department of Anthropology

"},{"id":"26","created":"02/04/2014 7:53 PM EST","title":"In Response To Ham","tweet_link":"26_in-response-to-ham","entry_text":"

\"Galapagos finches DO NOT EQUAL dogs. 1) Dogs all belong to the same species, Canis familiaris, the domesticated descendants of the wolf, Canis lupus. 2) Darwin's finches evolved via adaptive radiation on the islands from a common ancestor; dogs were 'created' from wolves... by us! Dogs are the result of artificial selection, not natural selection, and various breeds were created in the past several hundred years. 3) Ham says scientists don't teach dog evolution in science classes-- I taught Galapagos finches today and I'll teach dog domestication in my next class, on this Thursday! Artificial selection is a FANTASTIC example of evolution-- it's generally just a sped-up version of what happens naturally.\"

-- Dr. Scott Williams, assistant professor at New York University's Center for the Study of Human Origins

","short_text":"

\"Galapagos finches DO NOT EQUAL dogs. 1) Dogs all belong to the same species, Canis familiaris, the domesticated descendants of the wolf, Canis lupus. 2) Darwin's finches evolved via adaptive radiation on the islands from a common ancestor; dogs were '...Read More"},{"id":"25","created":"02/04/2014 7:51 PM EST","title":"'His Evidence Isn't Evidence.'","tweet_link":"25_his-evidence-isnt-evidence","entry_text":"

Ken Ham just showed a tree of dogs, wolves, jackals, etc., & claimed it’s a tree only of dogs. His evidence isn’t evidence. #creationdebate

— carlzimmer (@carlzimmer) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

Ken Ham just showed a tree of dogs, wolves, jackals, etc., & claimed it’s a tree only of dogs. His evidence isn’t evidence. #creat...Read More"},{"id":"24","created":"02/04/2014 7:40 PM EST","title":"So, About 'Historical Science'...","tweet_link":"24_so-about-historical-science","entry_text":"

Can we make it clear there is no such thing as Historical Science in real science #CreationDebate

— Zack Kopplin (@ZackKopplin) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

Can we make it clear there is no such thing as Historical Science in real science #CreationDebate

— Zack Kopplin (@ZackKop...Read More"},{"id":"23","created":"02/04/2014 7:39 PM EST","title":"In Response To Microbiologist At Oklahoma:","tweet_link":"23_in-response-to-microbiologist-at-oklahoma","entry_text":"

Does a PhD from Oklahoma even count? #creationdebate

— Brian Malow (@sciencecomedian) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

Does a PhD from Oklahoma even count? #creationdebate

— Brian Malow (@sciencecomedian) Read More"},{"id":"22","created":"02/04/2014 7:34 PM EST","title":"'Ham Does Not Speak For All'","tweet_link":"22_ham-does-not-speak-for-all","entry_text":"

Sitting here hoping that #HamOnNye viewers know that Ham does not speak for all Christians...

— John Allen (@revjohnallen) February 5, 2014

","short_text":"

Sitting here hoping that #HamOnNye viewers know that Ham does not speak for all Christians...

— John Allen (@revj...Read More"},{"id":"21","created":"02/04/2014 7:33 PM EST","title":"Ham: 'Evolution Has Been Hijacked'","tweet_link":"21_ham-evolution-has-been-hijacked","entry_text":"

Ham: "Evolution" has been hijacked by secularists! #hamonnye

— U of C Freethinkers (@uofcfreethinker) February 5, 2014

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Ham: "Evolution" has been hijacked by secularists! #hamonnye

— U of C Freethinkers (@uofcfreethinker) <...Read More"},{"id":"20","created":"02/04/2014 7:32 PM EST","title":"Battle Has Begun","tweet_link":"20_battle-has-begun","entry_text":"

\"nyeham1\"

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"},{"id":"19","created":"02/04/2014 7:20 PM EST","title":"Not Evidence, Ham.","tweet_link":"19_not-evidence-ham","entry_text":"

Ham is showing another scientist bio who believes in creation. Not evidence, Ham. Not evidence. #HamOnNye

— Shaney Irene (@ShaneyIrene) February 5, 2014

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Ham is showing another scientist bio who believes in creation. Not evidence, Ham. Not evidence. #HamOnNye

— Shane...Read More"},{"id":"18","created":"02/04/2014 7:16 PM EST","title":"'Ham Is Ignoring All Those Folks In The Middle'","tweet_link":"18_ham-is-ignoring-all-those-folks-in-the-middle","entry_text":"

Ham is ignoring all those folks in the middle who are not atheists NOR biblical creationist scientists - like me!

— DNLee (@DNLee5) February 5, 2014

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Ham is ignoring all those folks in the middle who are not atheists NOR biblical creationist scientists - like me!

— DNLee (@DNLee5) Read More"},{"id":"17","created":"02/04/2014 7:15 PM EST","title":"'Get On With It Already'","tweet_link":"17_get-on-with-it-already","entry_text":"

From a Center for Inquiry member on Bill Nye's opening: \"Get on with the evolution stuff!\"

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From a Center for Inquiry member on Bill Nye's opening: \"Get on with the evolution stuff!\"

"},{"id":"16","created":"02/04/2014 7:15 PM EST","title":"Historical vs. Observational","tweet_link":"16_historical-vs-observational","entry_text":"

\"Historical versus observational science is a false dichotomy.\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

","short_text":"

\"Historical versus observational science is a false dichotomy.\" -- Dr. Todd Disotell

"},{"id":"15","created":"02/04/2014 7:12 PM EST","title":"The Debaters","tweet_link":"15_the-debaters","entry_text":"

\"bill

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"},{"id":"14","created":"02/04/2014 7:09 PM EST","title":"Ham Begins Debate","tweet_link":"14_ham-begins-debate","entry_text":"

So Ham is going to start by trying to redefine the definition of science?? #hamonnye

— Katie Dawson (@katiedawson81) February 5, 2014

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So Ham is going to start by trying to redefine the definition of science?? #hamonnye

— Katie Dawson (@katiedawson...Read More"},{"id":"13","created":"02/04/2014 7:07 PM EST","title":"Coin Toss","tweet_link":"13_coin-toss","entry_text":"

Uh-oh, God gave the coin toss to Ken Ham. #creationdebate

— Brian Malow (@sciencecomedian) February 5, 2014

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Uh-oh, God gave the coin toss to Ken Ham. #creationdebate

— Brian Malow (@sciencecomedian) Read More"},{"id":"12","created":"02/04/2014 7:06 PM EST","title":"Cheers","tweet_link":"12_cheers","entry_text":"

HuffPost Science is reporting from a bar in Brooklyn, NY where the Center for Inquiry is hosting a viewing party. Their public invitation reads:

\"Come join your fellow science-supporters and evolution-enthusiasts for some laughs, some tears, and some drinking games. Maybe engage in a friendly debate of your own with a creation apologist should any decide to join us.\"

Members of the Center for Inquiry start cheering for Bill Nye after he's introduced.

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HuffPost Science is reporting from a bar in Brooklyn, NY where the Center for Inquiry is hosting a viewing party. Their public invitation reads:

\"Come join your fellow science-supporters and evolution-enthusiasts for some laughs, some tears, and ...Read More"},{"id":"11","created":"02/04/2014 6:55 PM EST","title":"Debate Starts In Five Minutes","tweet_link":"11_debate-starts-in-five-minutes","entry_text":"

\"bill

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"},{"id":"10","created":"02/04/2014 6:54 PM EST","title":"Scientists Are Watching With Us","tweet_link":"10_scientists-are-watching-with-us","entry_text":"

For tonight's live blog, HuffPost Science is joined by several scientists with expertise in evolutionary biology and anthropology, including Dr. Todd Disotell, a molecular anthropologist at New York University now on sabbatical in Cambridge, England.

\"todd

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For tonight's live blog, HuffPost Science is joined by several scientists with expertise in evolutionary biology and anthropology, including Dr. Todd Disotell, a molecular anthropologist at New York University now on sabbatical in Cambridge, England. <...Read More"},{"id":"9","created":"02/04/2014 6:52 PM EST","title":"Bill Nye vs. Ken Ham Drinking Game","tweet_link":"9_bill-nye-vs-ken-ham-drinking-game","entry_text":"

Yes, a #creationdebate drinking game does exist... at least at the Center for Inquiry's live-stream viewing event in New York.

\"bill

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Yes, a #creationdebate drinking game does exist... at least at the Center for Inquiry's live-stream viewing event in New York.

"},{"id":"8","created":"02/04/2014 6:29 PM EST","title":"On The Scene","tweet_link":"8_on-the-scene","entry_text":"

Just spotted "Bill Nye is my homeboy" t-shirts on a few in the audience at #evolutiondebate #HamOnNye

— Dylan Lovan (@dylanlovan) February 4, 2014

Getting ready for evolution/creation debate with Bill Nye and Creation Museum's Ken Ham. pic.twitter.com/RQlVvZlhi3

— Dylan Lovan (@dylanlovan) February 4, 2014

","short_text":"

Just spotted "Bill Nye is my homeboy" t-shirts on a few in the audience at #evolutiondebate Read More"},{"id":"7","created":"02/04/2014 6:04 PM EST","title":"Many People Will Be Watching","tweet_link":"7_many-people-will-be-watching","entry_text":"

More than 10,000 churches, schools, and other groups carrying free live stream of #creationdebate http://t.co/h0Mpo2X0FS Begins at 7PM/ET

— Answers in Genesis (@AiG) February 4, 2014

","short_text":"

More than 10,000 churches, schools, and other groups carrying free live stream of #creationdebate htt...Read More"},{"id":"6","created":"02/04/2014 6:03 PM EST","title":"'Science Guy' Is Ready To Debate","tweet_link":"6_science-guy-is-ready-to-debate","entry_text":"

Ham claims he has a better model for the natural history of the earth than science. Tonight, we discuss. Watch live @ http://t.co/uint6oft5m

— Bill Nye (@TheScienceGuy) February 4, 2014

","short_text":"

Ham claims he has a better model for the natural history of the earth than science. Tonight, we discuss. Watch live @ http://t.co/uint6oft5m

— Bill Nye (@TheSc...Read More"},{"id":"5","created":"02/04/2014 4:55 PM EST","title":"Museum Display","tweet_link":"5_museum-display","entry_text":"

Creation Museum display - dinosaurs and humans coexisting. #creationdebate pic.twitter.com/KF7al3Bq7V

— Chris Kenning (@ckenning_cj) February 4, 2014

","short_text":"

Creation Museum display - dinosaurs and humans coexisting. #creationdebate pic.twitter.com/KF7al3Bq7V...Read More"},{"id":"4","created":"02/04/2014 4:43 PM EST","title":"Not A Good Idea?","tweet_link":"4_not-a-good-idea","entry_text":"

A lot of scientists do *not* think #creationdebate is a good idea. but it may well be historic http://t.co/qAojoMoArm

— Chris Mooney (@chriscmooney) February 4, 2014

At the outset, let's be clear. This will be a great show, but evidence for evolution is staggering http://t.co/BAlDaMjILn #creationdebate

— Chris Mooney (@chriscmooney) February 4, 2014

","short_text":"

A lot of scientists do *not* think #creationdebate is a good idea. but it may well be historic http:/...Read More"},{"id":"2","created":"02/04/2014 4:09 PM EST","title":"The American Split On Evolution Vs. Creationism","tweet_link":"2_the-american-split-on-evolution-vs-creationism","entry_text":"

\"bill

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"},{"id":"1","created":"02/04/2014 3:52 PM EST","title":"CNN Correspondent To Moderate","tweet_link":"1_cnn-correspondent-to-moderate","entry_text":"

CNN correspondent @tomforemancnn to moderate #creationdebate http://t.co/GpX4Ermxtq

— Creation Museum (@CreationMuseum) February 4, 2014

","short_text":"

CNN correspondent @tomforemancnn to moderate #creationdebate Read More"}]

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