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Posted: August 9, 2010 03:22 PM

Google Goes "Evil"

What's Your Reaction:

Google:

I just got off a media conference call with Google CEO Eric Schmidt and Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg.

They announced a new policy recommendation that would kill the Internet as we know it, if implemented by FCC Chair Julius Genachowski and other policy makers.

The Google/Verizon deal (also posted online) basically says:

  • The old "wireline" Internet that will be irrelevant in a few years? We propose a "new, enforceable prohibition against discriminatory practices" on that.
  • New "wireless services" (aka the entire future of the Internet)? No equivalent nondiscrimination rules for that, but we'll "create enforceable transparency rules." That way, as Americans lose access to the free and open Internet, they can visibly watch it go away.
  • Just in case "wireless services" doesn't encompass the entire future of the Internet, a new class of "new services" is envisioned, which Schmidt and Seidenberg actively differentiated from "the public Internet." Basically, through private contracting, big corporations could deal directly with the Verizons and AT&Ts of the world to create the next YouTube, maybe dangle it without discrimination to the public just long enough for us to be hooked, and then discriminate like hell over it. But don't worry, the FCC will "monitor the development of these services."

Google, a company that I've long admired and currently hold thousands of dollars of stock in, just "went evil." 

That's why over 300,000 Americans have signed an open letter telling Google "don't be evil" -- protect Net Neutrality and the Internet's level playing field. You can sign here.

This letter was launched last week by 5 groups that use the Internet to organize millions of Americans around issues, and are now using the Internet to save the Internet itself -- Free Press, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, MoveOn, Credo Action, and ColorOfChange.

Why did Google cut this absurd deal, one that dramatically hurts its credibility in the online space?

We know why Verizon did it. Verizon is a decrepit old company that made massive investments in old landline technology and is coming face-to-face with market irrelevance. In a properly functioning marketplace, Verizon would soon crumble and die and be replaced by modern-day innovators. The only way for them to stay in business is to block innovation and to put tollbooths on the Internet that are in nobody's interest but Verizon's and other decrepit companies like AT&T.

There is no reason in the world for Google, which has made smart investments in the future, to find common ground with Verizon on the issue of Internet openness. None. Zero. Zilch. Today's deal was unneeded, uncalled for, and incompatible with Google's "don't be evil" mantra.

Google's decision to cut a deal with Verizon wreaks of either impatience or fear. Either Google wasn't willing to wait for the Verizons of the world to crumble and die -- and therefore moved it's own business development timeline up 5 or 10 years at the expense of the entire American public. Or, Google feared doing the dirty work that comes with being a leader -- despite launching a "Google Fiber for Communities" program that competes head-to-head with the decrepit incumbents, Google feared actually having to fulfill their potential to defeat the bad guys.

So, they cut a deal with the bad guys. And they're now asking the public to accept two Internet experiences -- a great experience for the old Internet that will soon cease to exist, and an experience filled with discrimination and lack of a level playing field for the entire future of the Internet.

Google: This is a moment for good people to stand up and be counted.

Click here to join over 300,000 Americans in telling Google: Don't be evil.

Then, help save the Internet by sending this link to your friends and asking them to join you in getting involved.

 

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03:17 PM on 09/25/2010
I won't call Google evil but sure it has too much power which cannot be good. They are lurking everywhere be it search or mail or pics or maps or images or any damn thing which can be imagined. This post http://yaps.co.in/google/googles-dont-be-evil-mantra-is-bllshit/ magnifies the whole situation in a much better way.
08:09 PM on 09/01/2010
We should not have to "petition Google" to insure net neutrality. They are a private company with private financial interests, and Our net neutrality should not depend upon their view on the matter. It is Our Government --the same ones we trust to protect other important social assets like national defense and public health (sort of)-- also protect net neutrality. This is what many other countries --who have better internet service-- do. It is naive to ask or expect a private company to shoulder that "Be Good".
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DRaymond
Network administrator, voiceovers
03:03 AM on 08/12/2010
So why did Google do this?

First of all, I disagree that wireless is going to completely do away with wirebound internet. There is just too much of a bandwidth advantage to wire/fiber. If you want to move a lot of data inexpensively wire/fiber is still it.

What this has to do is with Cloud Computing in general and Google Apps in particular. Cloud computing is very bandwidth sensitive. No quantity of efficient programming or front or back end processing can make up for a slow pipe in cloud computing.

Google's angle is to get their cloud computing platform, and the next generation of Google Apps, treated as a 'differentiated service'. That means it will have an insurmountable advantage over any cloud computing system that has to fight with everything else on the internet for bandwidth. So Google gets to own cloud computing by getting Verizon to declare it a 'differentiated service'. But more than that Google has made no secret of Cloud Computing applications being the core of getting Chrome OS onto desktop devices. And it would seem a relatively simple step to also make Android the preferred platform of Google cloud computing applications. So Google gets to own the Desktop OS, the Mobile OS, and all of the cloud computing applications running on them. Or in other words Google owns everything.
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chariotdrvr14
01:01 PM on 08/10/2010
Reese Leysen makes a good argument for why we should oppose this Verizon-Google pact.

http://ipower.ning.com/video/google-verizons-pact-to-end?xg_source=msg_mes_network

Btw,... just the fact that Google lied about these negotiations in the days preceding this deal's announcement is reason enough to not trust anything they have to say about how this is supposed to 'save net neutrality'.
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chariotdrvr14
12:44 PM on 08/10/2010
Sith Lord Verizon has finally convinced Google of the pleasures of the Dark Side.

"Feel the POWER floooowing through you!"
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Tyler-Durden
leading a revolution of one
11:56 AM on 08/10/2010
@ Mr. Green:

I just sent you an email to the info@prog... address.

please look for it. I think we can help each other. I've been looking for someone to help me with a project that will empower the public and independent candidates, come election time. It looks like your org and myself share the same objectives. Please check your inbox for it. the subject line is: ATTN: Adam Green

Tj
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FOSS emergency management software developer
11:00 AM on 08/10/2010
The Verizon-bashing on the (invalid) grounds of old technology detracts from the net neutrality argument. If this were the last-gasp of a dying business, it would be less worrying.

There seem to be two misconceptions here. First is confusion between provision of Internet access to end users and Internet backbone service. "Wireless broadband" is for end-user access -- its range is only up to ~30 miles. That's not going to carry traffic state-to-state, let alone country-to-country. It's unlikely to supplant wired end-user services, especially fiber-optic, which can provide speeds up to 1 Gbit/sec, ten times the wireless speed of up to 100 Mbit/sec.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_broadband
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiber_to_the_x
http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Internet_backbone_provider
http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Backbone

Second is whether Verizon is dying. (I have no stake in Verizon: not my ISP nor cell provider nor do I own stock nor have I ever worked for them.) Verizon is a major Internet backbone carrier -- 3rd in # routes after TWTC and Bellsouth. Verizon is also a wireless broadband provider and a cell carrier. They *are* providing the service that is touted as up-and-coming.

http://www.cidr-report.org/as2.0/
http://www.isp-planet.com/resources/backbones/vz_business.html

An attack on these companies as viable businesses just sounds petulant -- it's not going to help protect net neutrality.
10:18 AM on 08/10/2010
The author here fails to be "net neutral" himself. To be fair, he should provide an option to "click here if you do not agree with the author." An even better option would be that "net neutrality is nonsense." I'd click on both.
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lolyla
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10:03 AM on 08/10/2010
I worked for Google for three years and had Google as my homepage for years before that. I always admired their corporate motto "Don't be evil." I especially liked how Google refused to allow payment for higher ranking in results. However, they started down this path of bias quite a while ago when they started targeted advertising posted separately - but noticeably - on the right side of the screen. I suspect Google has been much more corporately biased for quite some time.
09:54 AM on 08/10/2010
I don't think people understand the technical limitations of wireless internet. First, wired broadband isn't going anywhere no matter what people say. The reliability and price-performance is unparalleled. As much as I hate it, they do have a point to keep people from streaming HD on a cellular connection. It's for the health of the network as a whole. Wireless networks do not have nearly the bandwidth of traditional wired ones. So, in essence, they do have a point.

Look,I am as liberal as anyone but please know what you are talking about.
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DRaymond
Network administrator, voiceovers
03:11 AM on 08/12/2010
Well, yes and no, But what Verizon wants to do is to make sure that their own video streaming works in HD but that using Hulu or Netflix doesn't. Or similarly that their own internet radio sounds great but that Pandora or Live365 does not.
08:33 AM on 08/10/2010
Google.. Verizon.. – Big, but replaceable. The other service providers are studying their every move and will quickly fill their voids and scream their negatives for all to hear. The day any business takes away what their people want, need and demand they are doomed. They need to understand what made them and what can break them. I am certain there will be negatives and positives of their moves and rules. If as a user you feel unsatisfied or robbed quit them and find the search engine or people that fulfill your needs.

The core roots of the internet will always remain. These huge corporations may be on a power trip but they are not stupid. Their lifeblood is their main focus all day every day.


LONG LIVE ALL PEOPLE! â„¢
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chariotdrvr14
12:48 PM on 08/10/2010
I wish they were easily replaceable.
I was thinking about this the last couple of days. Google has done a brilliant job of insinuating itself into almost every aspect of internet life.
I'm really annoyed at Youtube for selling to Google...and there are indeed alternatives to it.
I suppose it's time for some reorganisation.
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NCEngineer
01:00 PM on 08/13/2010
These huge corporations aren't stupid? AIG, Goldman Sachs, Bear Sterns, Enron.... seems all those "very smart" corporations ran themselves right into the ground..
08:30 AM on 08/10/2010
Google.. Verizon.. – Big, but replaceable. The other service providers are studying their every move and will quickly fill their voids and scream their negatives for all to hear. The day any business takes away what their people want, need and demand they are doomed. They need to understand what made them and what can break them. I am certain there will be negatives and positives of their moves and rules. If as a user you feel unsatisfied or robbed quit them and find the search engine or people that fulfill your needs.

The core roots of the internet will always remain. These huge corporations may be on a power trip but they are not stupid. Their lifeblood is their main focus all day every day.


LONG LIVE ALL PEOPLE! â„¢
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04:10 AM on 08/10/2010
reeks not wreaks
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03:00 AM on 08/10/2010
You can sign the petition, but changing your default search engine takes 10 seconds, you can even change it to Bing or Yahoo in Chrome! I'm still using Google alerts, documents, but uh oh, no more ad revenue from searches, their main profit source. Unless I'm missing something, this will go down in history as one of the dumbest business decisions in modern history.
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09:32 AM on 08/10/2010
changed! even if google may be the best search engine i'm going for yahoo for at least a month!
02:45 AM on 08/10/2010
It is so easy for tens, even hundreds of millions of users to quit using Google and Verizon, starting tomorrow. There are other good search engines, other providers. Goodbye.
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Mark Ellsworth
11:27 AM on 08/10/2010
I just signed a two-year contract with for my new Google Droid phone on Verizon. I've had good experiences with both of these companies. You can do a lot worse.