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Joe Biden's Latest Gaffe

Posted: 05/07/2012 11:54 am

Did Joe Biden just commit political hari-kari with his comment on NBC's Meet the Press on Sunday that he's "absolutely comfortable" with married same-sex couples having the same rights as heterosexual couples?

I don't know, but I'm pretty sure President Obama isn't "absolutely comfortable" with his loquacious vice president's comment, which has instantly, and unnecessarily, forced his hand on a controversial domestic issue when he's grappling with a host of sensitive foreign policy issues, including the trial of the 9/11 defendants at Guantanamo Bay, the unresolved effort by blind Chinese dissent Chen Guangcheng to seek asylum in the U.S. and the impact of French President Sarkozy's defeat on the European debt crisis.

Obama, who has refused to endorse gay marriage and said his own view on gay marriage has been "evolving," but Biden's comment is sure to prompt Mitt Romney, who's opposed to same-sex marriage, to demand that Obama declare whether he agrees with his vice president.

Biden, who also predicted that the notoriously unpredictable Chinese officials will honor their commitment to allow Chen and his family to leave China, triggered an immediate crisis mode response from his office and the Obama campaign.

"The vice president was saying what the president has said previously -- that committed and loving same-sex couples deserve the same rights and protections enjoyed by all Americans, and that we oppose any effort to rollback those rights," a Biden spokesperson said. "Beyond that, the vice president was expressing that he too is evolving on the issue."

At the same time, Obama's top political adviser David Axelrod suggested that Biden had gone too far as he defensively tweeted, "What VP said-that all married couples should have exactly the same legal rights-is precisely POTUS's position."

I love Joe Biden, having covered him for years as a senator. But as a former spokesman for another vice president, Walter Mondale, and biographer of yet another veep, Hubert Humphrey, it's clear that Biden has committed the cardinal sin of vice presidents -- thinking they can speak freely and not expect voters to think they're speaking for their boss.

Worse yet, for Biden and his own political future, he sparked renewed speculation that Obama will dump him as his running mate this fall, most likely in favor of Hillary Clinton. Biden joked that he and Clinton may run on a joint ticket in 2016, but added, "I don't know whether I'm gonna run. And Hillary doesn't know whether she's gonna run."

My guess is that Obama will keep Biden as his running mate because of his appeal to blue-collar voters in key states like Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan, but many of those same voters may not like what they just heard Biden say. So better not order any more of those 2012 Obama-Biden bumper stickers just yet.

 
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skeller
01:22 PM on 05/08/2012
Sorry, Al, not a chance Obama's going to liven things up with a real VP controversy to replace the fake Hillary one. Even Dick Cheney disagreed with W. on this issue, publicly, during a campaign.
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SMK1414
just another community organizer
05:09 PM on 05/07/2012
Not a gaffe. Opening a door - then votes on NC marriage ref. - a position of supporting gay marriage can be made with feathers already ruffled, lgbt already waiting in ready and clear voter support to 'evolve ' completion. Not a gaffe. It is also is a topic that's not about the sluggish economy. Smart political chest move. Checkmate.
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12:41 AM on 05/17/2012
Although it is many days later and after the NC vote, I have been looking over this and I think you had insight; this of course gave the Pres and his evolving position some campaign spotlight. The "gaffe" may well have been strategized in advance.
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SMK1414
just another community organizer
10:49 AM on 05/17/2012
No one can win an office campaigning without political strategies. When they work you win. What do you think the strategy is putting Biden out to test the big animated speech to workers? I will predict, after warming up the voters and the data shows them the right timing, Obama will increase his proven Preacher speech style speech. This with boring rich Romney could prove successful even with nasty neg ads from GOP super pacs.
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04:54 PM on 05/07/2012
So the Obama campaign is going out making sure that all of the surrogates talk up gay rights while POTUS steers clear. Clearly just a ploy to solidify one portion of the base. Never expected political fallout for the Pres.

I have to think the people running his campaign this go-around are a different lot. All ready too many gaffes from the suspect use of Osama's demise, to half empty stadiums at OSU to this. Just a lot sloppier this time around. Seems like the press isn't quite as fawning which complicates the issue further.
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tifosies
10:23 PM on 05/07/2012
It wasn't "half-empty." You bought the lie. 14,000 in a 18,500 capacity stadium=76.5% full. BTW, did you see that the Romney event drew a whopping 500 in Ohio today? 13,500 LESS THAN President Obama? Hang on and enjoy the ride!
04:50 PM on 05/07/2012
The President was already not for DOMA, he needs to tell the American public the truth.
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tifosies
10:15 PM on 05/07/2012
Re: DOMA: "...it should join DADT in the history books" and calls it unconstitutional. OBAMA 2012!! Get a bill through Congress and PRESIDENT OBAMA will sign it!

Romney squeezes out HIS openly gay adviser...talk about weak-kneed!
04:44 PM on 05/07/2012
Good. Hopefully Obama will now get his act together and follow the lead of his vice. His equivocating is unbecoming.
03:22 PM on 05/07/2012
Considering the persistently stale economy, I guess they're resorting to the "we're hip and progressive" schtick...

http://brianekoenig.com/2012/05/joe-biden-endorses-gay-marriage-not-sure-about-obama/
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02:15 PM on 05/07/2012
Seemed like a testing of the waters for Obama's own announcemnet.
02:06 PM on 05/07/2012
I'm a bit confused. Where in his "tweet" did David Axelrod suggest that VP Biden had gone too far? The quote given is: "What VP said - that all married couples should have exactly the same legal rights - is precisely POTUS's position." How is making a statement Axelrod characterizes as "precisely POTUS's position." going too far? Unless this was taken completely out of context and there is more to the quote that is not presented here, there is no criticism of any kind. The quote appears completely supportive of VP Biden's statements.

If the quote is out of context, then shame on the author of the article and the editor of the blog.
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02:16 PM on 05/07/2012
it's criticism. he spun it because Biden did go further than the President but Axelrod reframed it as if Biden had not.
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sahk3
12:57 PM on 05/07/2012
Only in a culture where lying, distorting, and dodging questions is the norm, D.C., would what Biden said be considered a "gaffe."
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sahk3
12:55 PM on 05/07/2012
tempest in a teapot. nothing controversial about that position in the democratic party
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donaldinks
and so it goes...
12:44 PM on 05/07/2012
I see this as a new "pre-election" strategy...

...not a "gaffe".

Case in point:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/07/arne-duncan-gay-marriage_n_1495224.html
jhNY
Mercy.
12:19 PM on 05/07/2012
My guess is this but a bit of kerfuffle. Biden's going to be running for re-election. And gays have nobody else to vote for, if they are intent to vote for their self-interest, however flawed and halting the president has been on this marriage issue.

The first pol I see who means to defend the institution of marriage by fighting to eliminate divorce except in cases of police-documented spousal abuse-- well, that's the first pol I'll believe is serious regarding the preservation of marriage as a social institution.

This gay-marriage-as-controversy is dog whistle politics for the unbending, mostly older folks among us for whom the sight of gay couples seems somehow threatening, and every day, there are fewer of them to gin up into outrage. The young have no such problems. Gay marriage is an eventual fact and logical outcome of our democracy and our Constitution.