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An Addendum to My Flying Lesson

Posted: 12/08/11 11:50 AM ET

People posting here pose the question, "Why do I believe I need to be treated differently from other passengers?"

My answer is "I don't." So, why was everyone else on that flight using a phone and I was the only one hectored about that? Twice.

Sometimes one can be treated differently in a not-so-cuddly way. Take my word for it.

Three things I think are worth mentioning here. One is that American Airlines' "source", a Mr. Weiss, is a liar. I never talked on the phone. Two, American keeps changing their story. Hey, I get that they have to back their employee. But I never yelled at or used inappropriate language to ANYONE on that plane. American's need to dirty me up is pro forma, but transparent. And three, if American was so concerned about my behavior, why did they seat me on the next flight and fly me home to New York at 3PM?

Today, the New York Post features a cover story on me deactivating my Twitter account (social media being a tad less exciting to me just now). Really? The cover of the paper? About that?

Then again, this is the paper owned by that phone-tapping, sociopathic NewsCorp. The company that both British and US courts should immediately strip of all of their broadcast licenses and force them out of the news business.

The front page of a New York newspaper. Over something like that. The New York Post. The worst newspaper in the history of journalism. No doubt about that now.

 
 
 
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03:38 PM on 12/17/2011
I just got off a flight with them and they are god awful. They damaged my bag, they lost another bag the flight attendants are nasty and my flight was 3 hours late. Get them Alec. Team Alec
02:55 PM on 12/13/2011
I agree with a previous comment that flying has become inelegant; it's actually closer to riding the NYC subway.

I'm siding with Alex after experiencing a similarly unpleasant/overblown incident with US Air last summer. The plane was exceptionally late boarding. When the captain announced we were FINALLY leaving I created a text to update my arrival time. A flight attendant instructed me to turn off my phone. I explained I'd finished the text...just needed to press "send". She threatened to kick me off the flight if I pressed send. I thought she was kidding; she wasn't. She again threatened to have me escorted from the plane, this time raising her voice for others to hear. She stood over me, making sure I pressed "off" rather than "send". A Bloomberg News bureau chief seated next to me attempted to intervene on my behalf; he was told he could also leave the plane. We were incredulous. I've never since flown US Air.

The airlines have forgotten who pays their bills. They're actually anti-customer service...tacking on countless fees, shoving more rows into planes, overpacking flights, regularly canceling less-full flights ("mechanical issues"), allowing flight attendants to behave boorishly...all for the almighty bottom line. Yet, several have still managed to sail into bankruptcy. Virgin Air and Jet Blue are exceptions. I'd rather walk cross country than fly most other airlines. I'm buying Mr. Baldwin's side of the story; American's side, not so much.
09:34 PM on 12/12/2011
Hey Alec....I am a real Captain working for a real airline. Not like the pretend "Captain" (wearing a First Officer uniform) you played on SNL. I found your SNL skit degrading to all airline professionals throughout the world. It wasn't funny at all. You are an immature brat who needs a reality check. If you ever decide to fly on my airplane, I would suggest you make alternate travel plans. I will not allow you to fly on my aircraft. May I suggest you buy a corporate jet for your travel needs?
01:14 AM on 12/13/2011
the entire skit consisted of alec baldwin making fun of himself. how was that in any way offensive to pilots?
and unless you own your own private airplane company, you'll fly whoever the company tells you to fly, you're not the captain of a pirate ship for christ's sake.
02:57 PM on 12/13/2011
Come on Captain...where's your sense of humor? It was hilarious.
10:28 PM on 12/14/2011
Wow captain...you think you can stop someone from flying just because you don't like them? It would be interesting how that would hold up in court or how your employer would feel about that. By the way, they own the plane, not you. This is a free Country and you cannot deny someone from flying on "your" plane because you don't like them. Man, I would sue your ass.
08:42 PM on 12/11/2011
"So, why was everyone else on that flight using a phone and I was the only one hectored about that?"

Um, because you threw a big baby fit?
02:59 PM on 12/11/2011
Alec Baldwin via HuffPost vs American Airlines via New York Post - this is old news already, so let it go, and don't do it again!
02:35 PM on 12/11/2011
For those of you who don't believe that a cell phone can cause interference, please see this ABC News Story of June 9, 2011 regarding 75 incidents where cell phone or PED's were linked to aircraft irregularities. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/safe-cellphone-plane/story?id=13791569
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Sam Curcuro
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11:13 AM on 12/11/2011
Go Alec. For some reason, the airlines have allowed some Nazi's and Tin Gods to obtain a position as flight attendants. This hoohaa with low power electronic devices has been going on forever. Let's do a reality check. Our airways are constantly being barraged by Mico-wave transmissions from tens of thousands of sources, that airliners must fly through! I am willing to comply with any request the airlines feel involves saftety, but please read the following:

Boeing performed extensive tests as reported in AeroMagazine's Interference from Electronic Devices[2] in response to reports by flight crews of anomalies that they believed to be caused by electronic devices. The flight crews had apparently confirmed the effect by switching the "suspect" devices on and off and watching the effects. Despite this and despite the fact that Boeing in many cases was able to purchase the actual offending device from the passenger and use it in extensive testing Boeing was never able to reproduce any of the anomalies.

Flying today in no way resembles the pleasent experience it used to be! Baldwin deserves an apology. Don't think I'm bad-mouthing all flight attendants. Most of them are eligible for sainthood.
06:30 PM on 12/10/2011
This is sort of like a post script submission__still with the name calling__"Here's 3 Thing I Know"__

1. treat others as you want to be treated
2. make peace instead of war
3. stop making excuses for bad behavior

Oh yes I have read all the Airline stories and for the most part theirs are the same it is yours that keeps changing__that is why there is a need for so much Addendum's and Post Submissions__when you make waves you have to roll with the tides!
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01:13 AM on 12/10/2011
"And three, if American was so concerned about my behavior, why did they seat me on the next flight and fly me home to New York at 3PM?"

Because ... ... ... after you (a) disregarded flight attendants' requests, (b) disregarded flight attendants' instructions, (c) got the captain's attention, (d) interrupted the taxiing & take-off processes and checklists, (e) got tower ground control involved, (f) stopped the outbound movement of the aircraft, (g) delayed the departure, (h) altered the airport gate plan, (i) affected schedules for ground crews, gate crews, security personnel, & management, (j) were able to exit safely via the then reconnected jet bridge, and thereby allow the whole departure process to begin a second time ... ... ... American Airlines chose to be polite.
newshoundmama
My bite's worse than my bark
11:26 AM on 12/11/2011
Um, no, American did c) through j)
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09:37 AM on 12/12/2011
riiight, because Airlines are known for being polite after ejecting passengers.
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01:56 AM on 12/14/2011
They're at least polite to special passengers
09:38 PM on 12/09/2011
American Airlines LIED. FAA Rules state: "Today, airlines may let passengers use newer-mode­l cell phones in what’s called "airplane" mode, which essentiall­y disables the transmissi­on function so they can't make calls. This mode lets users do other things, such as play games, check an address or look at the phone’s calendar. FAA guidance does let airlines allow cell phone calls once the plane has landed and is taxiing to the gate." (ref: faa.gov). So, as one of your old Twitter fans, who got a twitter message from American since I said they owed you an apology, and they said you broke the rules, it's very simple: they LIED. So, I am a conservati­ve and disagree with you 99% of the time on politics, I will say again that American Airlines owes you an apology. Now light up a cigar, and get back on Twitter sometime..­..you should not punish your fans and people will always have "haters" no matter which side of the fence you are on...see..­..conserva­tives from Texas are not that bad...have a nice weekend.
05:14 PM on 12/10/2011
"...once the plane has landed and is taxiing to the gate." (ref: faa.gov). " They hadn't even taken off yet. the FAA requires you to have the phone off once the door is closed prior to take-off.
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pcplz
just a lil ol' lady with a mind.
02:25 PM on 12/20/2011
The game he was playing required regular phone transmission. It was an interactive game.
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mollynova
Oh, Toto! Where did our democracy go?
08:51 PM on 12/09/2011
I was on a plane 2 years ago and a big wig was in the seat ahead of me. The stewardess asked everyone to turn off their cell phones. He didn't. In fact, he then finished his phone call and made another phone call while everyone on the plane cooled their heels. He had a penthouse magazine opened to the centerfold on his lap, an unlit cigar in his hand and a cell phone glued to his ear. We all got to listen to his call which was laced with many vulgar profanities.

3 times the stewardess asked him nicely to turn off the cell phone. 3 times he ignored her. So, we sat and we all waited until Mr Bigshot finished his call and finally turned of his phone. He made our flight late and I missed my connecting flight.

Mr Baldwin, I don't care if you were talking on the phone or whether you were playing a game on your phone or juggling with it. Because of your actions YOU made others wait for you. Grow up. Start thinking about others and remember that their time is just as valuable as yours. Using the excuse that "others were on their phones, too" does not nullify your actions. You were in the wrong.
06:03 PM on 12/09/2011
Alec Baldwin is correct:
1. Flying has become inelegant.
2. Flying is beneath that of bus travel in the United States.
3. Airlines and Government use 9/11 as an excuse for poor service and security theatre.
4. People die tragically everyday. Why do the survivors of 9/11 victims feel entitled to monetary
compensation from tax payers? A special sactimonius perch from which to determine what is
accpetable or not.
12:14 AM on 12/10/2011
Amen. Wish there was more CommonSense...
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pcplz
just a lil ol' lady with a mind.
02:27 PM on 12/20/2011
Okay.....so ......walk....
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rhdsma
01:46 PM on 12/09/2011
Those on the plane were using their phones in some manner, but Mr. Baldwin gets singled out? Maybe the flight attendant recognized Alec and was giving him "what for" because of his politics? The NYPost surely did.
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alsm9
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01:29 PM on 12/09/2011
"So, why was everyone else on that flight using a phone and I was the only one hectored about that? Twice."

That is what you should have politely asked the flight attendant instead of losing your temper. I wanted to be a flight attendant once....until I saw the paycheque. They work a crappy job for little money, they should a least be treated with some respect. If they ask you to put away your phone, then do it. It doesn't matter what the other kids are doing. Everyone get's picked on once and a while, not just famous people.
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seenitall
California Dem.
12:52 PM on 12/09/2011
You know, Baldwin, the American worker has been under siege by the right of late. I expect better from you than disparaging the flight attendant with the gym teacher comment. Go ahead and bash policies, not the employees.
newshoundmama
My bite's worse than my bark
11:32 AM on 12/11/2011
Except he had an issue with this specific employee, and her behaviour. Also, since he was actually present for the incident, he's in a better place than you or I to judge if hid 1950s gym teacher description was accurate.
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seenitall
California Dem.
04:10 PM on 12/11/2011
Yes, name-calling is quite the adult response.