In a lively discussion at New York's Columbia University today, media titan Ted Turner lamented the US auto industry's slow approach to green, promised to talk with Rupert Murdoch about the Wall Street Journal's skeptical take on climate change, and criticized environmental coverage by CNN, the network he founded.
The "Mouth of the South" made his characteristically blunt remarks at the launch of the Climate Center at Columbia University, a new multi-disciplinary research base on climate change. The event also featured Jeffrey Sachs, Robert Orr, Lee Bolinger and a bevy of climate scientists.
In introducing Turner, superstar economist Jeffrey Sachs said the media mogul was "directing the world's attention to the global challenges of an imbalanced planet, armaments, population and the environment." He cited Turner's creation of the the Better World Society and the UN Foundation when he said that Turner was "not a late comer to this issue but one of the pioneers."
Here's part of the exchange between Sachs and Turner:
Sachs: How do we approach the climate problem?
We need stop doing dumb things and start doing smart things. To use a baseball analogy, humanity is in the seventh inning and down by two runs. We need to hold the other dumb guys at bay while we score three more runs in the last two innings. We should be able to do it because now we have global communications...Most of us are educated and have access to information. I'd imagine that 90 percent of people in the world know something about climate change. So at least we know about it... If we know something about the problem and don't do it, then we don't deserve to live.This world is potentially a garden of Eden. At the time of Buchenwald and Auschwitz, it was a hell. I'd like to see it made into a heaven. Imagine: elephants walking around the streets of New York. Wouldn't that be nice?
Sachs: How do we get Wall Street Journal editorial page to change? You've had dealings with Rupert Murdoch.
I don't read it that often. Is it that bad? Next time I'll see him I'll talk to him about it.
"Okay, we're making progress," Sachs said, as the main hall of Low Library erupted into applause. "If you can give him a call that'd be helpful."
Sachs: How optimistic are you?
I'm generally optimistic. I had the good fortune to underwrite Captain [Jacques] Cousteau's voyages for 10-15 years. I asked him once if he thought we were gonna make it. He said, 'Even if we knew for sure we weren't going to make it, what could men of good conscience do but keep trying?'
He's right. It ain't over til it's over. It's going to take a renaissance, a new burst of knowledge. We have global communications. We don't have an excuse. When Princess Diana was killed...98 percent of the world knew about it in 24 hours.
Sachs: Has CNN gone the way you wanted?
For a long time it did. But it's more tabloid than I'd like to have seen it. I'd like to see more environmental and international news. I'd like it to be more substantive. We had an 18 person environmental unit. But a couple years ago they disbanded that. They still cover the environment with regular reporters, which I think is inadequate. But that's just me...
Hey, if the stock goes down much more I could buy it all back.
Sachs then asked about GM's troubles and clean car technology.
Where were they ten years ago when Honda came out with a hybrid? Just think: if we'd been ten years behind Japan in getting the atomic bomb, we wouldn't have won World War II.
Read the full exchange at TreeHugger.
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The Columbia Climate Center has video of the whole event posted on its website--check it out at http://climate.columbia.edu/?id=news_events
Yes, it was a HUGE mistake when CNN got rid of its whole science department - especially in an age when information about science and technology are so important. I am glad he (semi) highlighted this.
"This world is potentially a garden of Eden. ... I'd like to see it made into a heaven. Imagine: elephants walking around the streets of New York. Wouldn't that be nice?"
It is nice to know that there are people who see how it could be and are not so blinded by how it is that it has killed their dreams. I am glad I read this article. I found it inspirational as I continue my pivot to answer the president's call to service and more importantly retake the saddle of a journey started long ago towards being a better servant.
Would it not also be nice if there were no hunger, a job available for anyone who wanted to work, medical care for all, universal dignity in the process of death, true prison rehabilitation and healing of broken minds and lives that lead to family and community dysfunction? Would it also not be nice if the idea of capitalism did not run counter to the idea of fairness and opportunity for all (an end to the pyramid of greed)? It would be heaven on earth if I never read about another rape, another child molestation, another murder, another crime against the idea of humans as free and loving beings towards creative, healthy, and nurturing living. Stop doing dumb things, said Mr. Turner. That might first require realization that we are not as smart as we posture. That may require some truth telling, some unlearning, and some humility.
CNN jumped the shark when it brought on Lou Dobbs and Glen Beck. Ted would never have let that happen to his news network.
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