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Yahoo's 'College Majors That Are Useless'... Really?

Posted: 01/20/12 12:50 AM ET

Sometimes a story comes across my desk that demands a response.

This week a Yahoo blogger posted "College Majors That Are Useless," with agriculture topping the list of five majors, followed by horticulture and animal science.

Really?

While I'm hesitant to give the list more credibility than it deserves -- it's based almost entirely on U.S. Labor Department projections and one author's opinions -- this blog post is so far off base it has to be refuted.

Let's take a closer look at the Labor Department projections for agricultural managers. Yes, overall, the number of self-employed farm producers will decline in coming years, because farms are consolidating, and technological advances are improving productivity. Fewer workers are needed to farm larger tracts of land.

But the labor department also notes that job prospects are actually expected to increase for people who manage large farms and who grow products for niche markets such as biofuels and organic food sales. And as current U.S. farmers retire -- the average age is now more than 55 -- and demand for food and fuel products remains steady or increases, opportunities will be there for college graduates who want to enter the field.

Hmm, that actually sounds promising. How about the other disciplines cited as "useless"?

Horticulture -- in my college it's known as horticultural science -- includes everything from growing fruits and vegetables for local markets to breeding the next durable, inexpensive turfgrass used on professional sports fields.

Labor department figures project a slight decline in demand for horticulture graduates, but based on what we're seeing at the University of Minnesota, a degree in horticultural science is a ticket to a good job. Class of 2010 reports show that 89 percent of graduates found a job in their field within a few months of graduation, and 100 percent of them said they are either very or moderately satisfied with their positions.

Animal science is considered by the Yahoo blogger to be "useless" because even though the job projections show that a 13-percent increase in hiring is expected, the degree is considered too specific to be transferable to other fields. Huh? Besides the obvious career tracks, animal scientists work in the medical, pharmaceutical, food safety, and finance fields, just to name a few. Among our graduates, about half continue to graduate school, where they study veterinary medicine, public health, and biology. Those who enter the work force with a bachelor's degree find jobs in everything from sales to zookeeping, depending upon their skills and interests.

Agriculture is a far different industry than it was 50, 30, or even 10 years ago, and agricultural education has changed in similar ways. To make assumptions based on outdated stereotypes about agriculture unfairly misleads young people. Who knows? The next George Washington Carver, Temple Grandin, or Louis Pasteur might be thinking about a future in the agricultural sciences right now; the health of our people and our environment could depend on what he or she chooses.

 
 
 
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04:33 PM on 02/25/2012
As all Americans are aware of the fact that a growing population requires more food, it is the responsibility of the producers to gain efficiency. While in the past, farmers and ranchers have been successful using traditional techniques to grow product not requiring higher education, the efficiency needs to continue to increase. The only way to increase production efficiency is to train and educate students on improvement techniques. This education comes from a degree in agriculture. Just as emilyevans_13 explains, it is evident that the majority of people believe they get their food from the supermarket; however, they need to be educated on how it gets to the store shelves. This can be done with the “No Farms, No Food” program. If more people become educated on this, they will realize the importance of agriculture. Once that is achieved, it will become clear that agricultural degrees are very useful for those with them and the population in general to ensure that production is obtained in the most efficient way possible. Statistics from the National FFA Organization report that more than 23 million jobs are involved with agriculture, making the industry the nation’s largest employer. This suggests that agricultural degrees are the foundation of our economy.
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01:54 PM on 02/09/2012
"This week a Yahoo blogger posted..."

Stop right there! Why would anyone give credence to what a Yahoo blogger said?
12:11 PM on 02/06/2012
I agree this is an outrage! I am a food scientist in the meat industry. I work in Research and Development and there is a high demand for graduates in Animal Science, Meat Science and Food Science. Large manufacturers like Tyson, Hormel...are running out of talent as the experienced Meat Scientists retire. USELESS! Hardly!!!
12:16 AM on 01/25/2012
Only a very small fraction of the population is involved in primary production (agriculture, mining, forestry (which is another form of agriculture)). A small and declining proportion of the population is involved in manufacturing. It is not surprising that many people take these activities for granted and don't even understand their critical importance. And none of these activities appeal to the stylish consumers who depend upon them.
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12:07 PM on 01/24/2012
Thank you Dr. Levine. You don't have to go any farther than this site to see the lack of general knowledge about agriculture. I don't see many longtime posters on this thread for example. Please come back often.

Here's the person who thinks an ag major is "useless" http://tloose.com/aboutme.html
Consider the source. There's also a contact page if anyone cares.
09:38 AM on 01/23/2012
I found the yahoo list surprising. I think some of the most interesting intellectual challenges are in ag just now. If I were young enough to go back to school, I would definitely be looking into the field. It may not pay well/jobs may not be available today but, there is work to be done and it may be the most important kind of research for the future. Fun and interesting jobs are probably there now.
11:27 PM on 01/22/2012
Well said for sure.
04:02 AM on 01/22/2012
As the average person becomes more and more removed from production agriculture, it's no wonder people think that agriculture is useless. Maybe I am a bit biased coming from an ag background but I have had several interactions with people who have absolutely no clue what it takes to put food on their table. They just assume that they can go to the store and buy their food without even thinking of all the people who are responsible for it. I, myself, had the privilege of being born and raised on a dairy farm and recently graduated college with a Bachelor's in Animal Science, and sometimes it even astonishes me all the jobs that can be available to an Animal Science graduate. Even explaining possible jobs to family members who are part of production agriculture can be a headache. I had read the article that is being referred to here and it took every ounce of me to not write nasty comments to the author but I did refrain. I would just like to thank Mr. Levine for writing an article to somewhat set the record straight.
10:19 AM on 02/01/2012
Well said Emily! As another recent Animal Sciences graduate (I'm now working on my veterinary degree) I couldn't agree more about the vast opportunities out there right now for agriculture related majors. I have a very strong love of genetics, and had my veterinary career not worked out I would have gone on to see about working in research with gene chips that are currently in development for the dairy industry that try and target gene loci that result in the highest producing animals. Shame on Terence Loose and his article for bad mouthing a very rewarding and essential sector of our economy.
12:02 AM on 01/21/2012
As farmers age - estimates from USDA are that 50% of farmers will retire in the next 10 years....in addition to ag not only being a major issue regarding Homeland Security - where do you want your food to come from/do you know where it comes from? - it also is a job creating, local source of financial stability for rural and urban areas....and will only grow!! We do need a new paradigm for ag, times have changed!
11:59 PM on 01/20/2012
Dr. Levine -- Thank you for the great post. Job opportunities continue to grow as more and more students go into the animal sciences. Not only does animal science help feed the world, animal science research can also help us understand more about human health. The American Society of Animal Science has released an official statement regarding the Yahoo! article: http://www.asas.org/takingstock/?p=2356

- Madeline McCurry-Schmidt, Science Communications Associate at the American Society of Animal Science.
09:29 PM on 01/20/2012
I suppose the author, Mr. Loose of the Yahoo! article deems the need to produce more food in the next 50 years than was produced in the past 10,000 years combined useless. Oh, and the 24 million jobs that are supported by U.S. farmers must be useless as well.

I am very disappointed in Yahoo's lack of fact checking before letting this much incorrect information to be posted on their main page. Fortunately, those of us who educate ag majors are not swayed by Mr. Loose, but I am concerned about those who might actually give him any credibility.

To say these majors are useless as Mr. Loose has a full stomach, clothes, food and fuel is hypocritical at best, irresponsible for certain.
07:13 PM on 01/20/2012
I majored in Animal Science. I wanted to work in a shelter and more specifically become a humane officer. Within 3 months of graduating I not only had a job in my field, but it was actually at a shelter and they sent me to Humane Officer training as well. My degree helped me to get my job. Saying Animal Science is too specific is like saying there's only one type of food. The variety is out there. Thank you for writing this article and re-educating people.
06:19 PM on 01/20/2012
As someone who worked through high school on a farm, was an FFA member, am currently an Ag Business major, and a member of Alpha Gamma Rho it astonishes me to see the ignorance the general public has about agriculture and those of us in the industry. Thanks for writing this article and dispelling some of the myth.
04:33 PM on 01/20/2012
When tillage begins, other arts follow. The farmers, therefore, are the founders of human civilization.
--_Daniel Webster_.
04:00 PM on 01/20/2012
I have yet to see anyone mention that a degree in Agriculture followed up by a job in the field, doesn't necessarily mean a farm manager. There are hundreds of other positions - chemical sales, seed sales, extension work, research - to name a few, that a person with an ag degree could go into. Just like any other degree, there isn't one job that might come from it.