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Nevada Ron Paul Supporters Stage Rogue GOP Convention

Posted: 06/23/08 09:05 PM ET

Ron Paul may have ended his bid for the presidency, but his supporters in Nevada apparently still believe backing his candidacy and platform will send an important message to the larger Republican Party. At least one Nevada Republican spokesperson, however, will go on record that by continuing to back his suspended candidacy, the Ron Paul supporters are tarnishing the image of the Republican Party in the silver state.

Paul backers, spearheaded by Sparks dentist Wayne Terhune, are renting out the Grand Sierra casino in Reno this weekend to complete unfinished business from the party's April 26 convention, which was cut short under controversial circumstances. The rogue GOP-Ron Paul supporter gathering planned for this weekend is neither sanctioned nor recognized by the Nevada Republican Party, which plans to resume the convention on July 26.

"It's going to cause a big, black eye for Nevada," said Zachary Moyle, the state party's executive director. "It reflects so poorly on the state."

The chaos at the April 26 convention at Peppermill Casino began when attendees overwhelmingly voted to change convention rules and allow delegates to be nominated from the floor. Nearly 200 people added their names to the slate of potential delegates and it took party officials several hours to sort out proper voting procedure.

Nevada sends three delegates from each of its three congressional districts and 22 at-large delegates to the national convention, so the state convention divided by district and voted on congressional delegates first.

About an hour later, murmurs started circulating about some surprising results.

Paul supporters say that all three of the delegates elected in the 3rd Congressional District and at least one in the 1st Congressional District were for Rep. Ron Paul, which meant four of the possible nine state congressional delegates were going to Paul and three delegates from the 2nd district were still being determined. Paul was seriously in the running to win the state congressional districts, in other words, even though the party's nominee would almost certainly be Sen. John McCain.

But these are Ron Paul supporter counts. According to the state Republican Party, the votes from the convention remain uncounted and uncertified and will not be reexamined until the state's party reconvenes. Both McCain and Ron Paul supporters would have to be present in order to certify all tallies.

"Nothing has been certified. It's all in a lock box at the Peppermill," says state Party Executive Director Moyle.

Nevertheless, Carl Bunce, an elected delegate for Paul in CD3, believes events at the convention support their unofficial count. When a Paul delegate was elected in CD1, says Bunce, "Bob Beers, the convention chairman, even shook his hand and congratulated him."

On the night of the convention, results from the final district took a while to come in, but the bulk of the nearly 1,400 in attendance seemed prepared to wait it out.

Bunce says his brother was seated toward the front of the room and overheard a striking exchange pass between Republican Party Chairman Sue Lowden and Commissioner Bruce Woodbury. Lowden reportedly heard an update from the 2nd Congressional District.

"After the person walked off, Sue sat there for about 30 seconds tapping her foot and then stood up and walked over to Councilman [sic] Woodbury, who was sitting in front of me. Leaning over, she said, 'If we can break Quorum, can we invalidate this?'" which is exactly how Richard Bunce wrote up the exchange on the Ron Paul website.

Sue Lowden is out of the country until June 28, but Moyle says they "absolutely object" to allegations that the party recessed the convention due to Paul's success, noting that Nevada was one of the only states that invited the Texas congressman to speak at the party's caucus.

But by all accounts, order at the convention started to disintegrate.

Carl Bunce says he could see convention chairman Bob Beers encircled by party leadership off stage "like he was in a shark tank" shaking his head no.

Moyle says that Paul supporters "aren't reading the truth" when it comes to interpreting the decision to recess.

They both agree that when Beers came on stage to announce that the convention would resume at a later date, the decision wasn't well received.

"People got angry and ran to the front of the room," said Robert Holloway, a lifelong republican who attended the convention. "Beers exited to a chorus of boos."

The remaining attendees tried to reconvene the convention right then and there, but too many people already had left the Peppermill to resume voting.

Several weeks later, when the party hadn't announced a new convention date, Paul's supporters decided they would organize their own. They contend that if a quorum shows up on June 28 any business conducted there will be recognized under the political guidebook Robert's Rule of Order.

But Moyle says the party's bylaws precede Roberts and that if people choose to attend Saturday, instead of the party's official date on July 26, it will only undermine the efforts to elect republicans in the state.

"If there's no quorum at the July meeting, it's only going to hurt themselves," Moyle said.

Despite Paul dropping out of the race and the Nevada Republican Party hosting a barbecue in Vegas on the same date, Robert Holloway plans to travel by van to attend Terhune's convention in Reno - even if it lessens the likelihood of Sen. John McCain winning the state.

"It may affect the election some, but it's more important to take a stand," Holloway said.

 
Ron Paul may have ended his bid for the presidency, but his supporters in Nevada apparently still believe backing his candidacy and platform will send an important message to the larger Republican Par...
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12:13 AM on 06/29/2008
Convention went through in the most respectful, polite and lawful manner with fine attention to the Robert's Rules of Order. I was proud to be a part of it.
I hope Party leadership take notice and finally train themselves to be aware of democratic process, gentlemanly conduct and respect for rules and law.
We will not be treated like cattle and we will punish with severity the political hacks who do not get it.

Alex Chaihorsky, Convention delegate,
Reno, NV
08:57 AM on 06/27/2008
Finally, an article talking about the REAL divided party!! They've been shoving the democratic split down our throats to mask the REAL division! The dem "split" because people loved the candidate they supported the Rep split is over ideology and because NO ONE likes their nominee! Which split do you think is worse...
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02:02 AM on 06/27/2008
R O N P A U L
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There's something kind of "B A U H A U S" about the look.
(equal kerning: the page designers dream)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus

Ironic when you think about the "Z e i t g e i s t" of those early days in Germany were described as the NEW OBJECTIVITY.

How come we never got to hear about Ron Paul's early days in the John Birch Society?

Isn't there something odd about a LIBERTARIAN gynecologist who's doesn't believe a woman has the right to make her own choices?
11:44 PM on 06/26/2008
I was half hoping Kucinich and Paul would team up and run together on a third party, as some hinted they might. They would have kept each other in line.
11:07 PM on 06/26/2008
"Ron paul supporters are tarnishing the image of the Republican party in the silver state:????
What about bush,cheney,rumsfeld,karl rove, libby, Tom Delay, Tom Foley, toilet toe tapping Craig, McCain, and on and on and on. Are they serious?
02:31 PM on 06/26/2008
Dr. Paul must have made a big impact on the far left and radical right, both of which hate our Constitution. These far-out extremists called Dr. Paul a wackjob extremist because he takes our Constitution and personal freedom literally. The extreme leftists and rightists are hellbent on creating a state that tells people what to do. But even after 8 years of the fascist Bush cabal, it's still the people who tell the government what to do and when to bugger off.
12:50 PM on 06/26/2008
The republicans love to portray their selves as the greatest defenders of the constitution and free speech yet they can't deal with it when republicans don't fall into lock step like mindless lemmings.
The republicans are a bunch of hypocrits - what's happening in Nevada is the biggest sign that the republicans have some serious problems within their GOP. This does not bode well for republican politicians who will be down ballot on statewide ticktes this fall.
12:42 PM on 06/25/2008
Whomever has been chosen by Diebold and the Bush regime to enter the Oval Office will be in the hot seat of judgment for the next 4 years.

Pick your war -- we'll have plenty of them with McCain and/or Obama, and some of those wars will be in the streets. People will be waking up, realizing that once again, they've been had by another pandering, corrupt politician and that nothing has changed.

Will you be ready in 2012 for real change? That is, if the Mayan calendar doesn't come true and it's all too late...
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10:42 AM on 06/25/2008
After the national debacle caused by the blank-check Republican Congressmen these past 7 1/2 years, I can't understan how the public doesn't abandon the Republican Party altogether.

And as for Ron Paul and Hagle, they should just join the Democratic Party since their ideologies are much more in alignment with the Democratic policies.

And the Independents now number 40% of the electorate which is much stronger than the dwindling 27% of the Bush Republican supporters.

And as for Obama and his support of the modified FISA Bill granting retroactive immunity to the networks... has Obama read that retroactive laws are Unconstitutional.?
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10:01 AM on 06/25/2008
I love Ron Paul. He kicks Republican butt.
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12:46 PM on 06/25/2008
I like him to.
08:52 AM on 06/25/2008
Republicans tarnished their own image.

Vote Nader

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08:29 AM on 06/25/2008
It's not just Nevada folks. GOP leadership in most all states have pulled every dirty trick in the book to keep RP delegates from their state conventions. Heck, in Louisiana they had to combine all the other candidates (Mittens, Gouls, McSane, etc.) onto a separate composite ticket, just to keep Dr. Paul from winning that state.

What they don't understand is that this simply adds fuel to the fire. Their actions consistently justify and validate the Revolution.

Why do you think he's having his own convention in Minn?
02:57 AM on 06/25/2008
Before this election, I never could imagine that the the forces within our electoral process and the media were so hostile to liberty and the Constitution.

If McCain is the next president, I hope the first people drafted are the ones who voted for him in the primary and the general.
If Obama is the next president, the only change I'm expecting from him is his positions on Iraq, iran, and the bogus war on terror.
02:34 AM on 06/25/2008
I am a delegate for Washoe County and I went that Republican Convention where Nevada Republican establishment totally discredited themselves. I am also a political refugee from Soviet Union (21 years ago) and boy, did I have a deja vu that day!

The patronizing fellow Republicans with different views, the condescending tone, the total disrespect for democracy, total disrespect for rules when they do not fit their agenda.... I thought I was a delegate to Communist Party Congress, rather than a Convention of the political party in a free country. These Bush years produces almost fascist attitudes toward dissenters within our own Party, the neocon intolerance toward anyone who does not fall into a lockstep destroyed Conservatism by putting its label on a totally Trotskyite ideology and there were no better proof to that than that shameful scam of a Convention.

We will convene on June 28th, I hope we have quorum, because so many Republicans of all walks of life were genuinely insulted By Mr. Beers demarche. I hope old time Nevada Republicans will raise up with us in protest and let current Nevada GOP administration go.

My loyalty is to the Constitution to which as a naturalized citizen I took an Oath. That Oath gives me no choice today but to support Ron Paul. And, yes, if Ron Paul would not be a choice during general elections I will vote for Obama, because being loyal to the Constitution I cannot vote for another Bush.

Alex Chaihorsky
Reno, Nevada.
12:40 AM on 06/25/2008
If you bring up Ron Paul's candidacy among the hard core Obama supporters, you might find yourself attacked for simply bringing his name up. "Idealogues are dangerous" I was instructed. Very strange that the "yes we can" crowd will not even listen to someone advocating an end to this insane war because it is in fact, constitutionally illegal. Both McCain and Obama believe in a stronger executive branch of government. They advocate that the President's job is to keep us safe, which it is most certainly not. The President is suppose to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States, to the best of their ability. When it comes to citizen's security, there is something called the Second Amendment. Observing these candidate clowns and their advocates, makes me wonder: doesn't anybody believe in liberty anymore?
01:42 AM on 06/25/2008
I'm voting for Obama, but I have donated to Ron Paul. I think he's great. Not all Obama supporters are "ideologues." It's nice to see that both parties are in revolution. Imperfect on both sides (would be better with Paul), but I see stirring. I like that.
Work hard for Paul and his message, but don't be an ideologue and decide that Obama supporters are a certain way and don't care about liberty.
02:06 AM on 06/25/2008
I guess you could describe me as a "hardcore Obama supporter" but I don't mind Ron Paul's name being brought up. I say bring it! His voice should be heard. Personally, my problem with Paul isn't his constitutionalism, it's his libertarianism. I'm all for liberty and non-empire, etc. But the Libertarians can take a hike.
06:01 AM on 06/25/2008
Please tell us all,how your man will bring back the "Constitution"?..I don`t think either of them,McCain,or Obama has ever mentioned the "Constitution",or,a sound dollar,or getting rid of the "Federal Reserve",or,the Illegal "Income Tax".
What is it that your are looking for in either of these "CFR" members?
Oh Yeah!! who gave Obama the right to take away our "Second Amendment Rights"? YOU!!
Who gave "Obama" the right to leave a Nuclear strike on Iran,on the table?..YOU!!!
How about "NAFTA",and, "CAFTA".What makes Obama think he can just give America away
I don`t know what country you grew up in,but it wasn`t America,at least the same America I grew up in. I suggest that you go back to wherever you came from,and leave Americans alone.