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Why 70s Parents Are Superior to French Parents

Posted: 02/ 6/2012 12:17 pm

The Wall Street Journal continues its mother-guilting march across the globe this weekend. After telling us last year "Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior", now they're out to tell us "Why French Parents Are Superior". Dock them ten points for lack of titling originality, but why mess with success? Last year's "Tiger Mom" tempest made Amy Chua a bestselling author, and Pamela Druckerman, author of the released-this-week Bringing Up Bébé, is surely hoping lightning strikes twice.

But this mother isn't buying it. I didn't buy it when I was told Tiger Moms deserve our admiration for making their children do arpeggios till their fingers bleed. And I don't buy it now that I'm told les mamans françaises are way, way better than we are because they value their Gauloises more than their Polly-Pocket skills. While I haven't read all of Druckerman's book, I have read the excerpt from the Journal, and from that summary, here are the primary examples I gleaned of shining French superiority:

• "French children consistently have three meals a day and one snack around 4 p.m." Prepare to have your mind blown, sister! Have you ever heard of such exotic meal planning? Nothing like American kids -- every last one of them an obese embarrassment, "snacking all day" like they're on one long Willy Wonka Cruise.

• French babies "mostly sleep through the night from two or three months old" because their mothers have perfected "la pause," or a brief wait before picking up a crying baby. American mothers, on the other hand, respond to every rustle coming from down the hall. Ah, my folly! Now I see it was my fault that my firstborn had acid reflux and slept 20 minutes at a time until he was six months old! If I only hadn't responded to his hours of uninterrupted, bloodcurdling screaming, I could have been having a pain au chocolat after eight hours of blissful slumber.

• When French children misbehave, French parents "give them the 'big eyes' -- a stern look of admonishment." Where do these Parisiennes get their radical parenting notions? Stop smiling indulgently at your son running with scissors, American Mom! Try looking at him disapprovingly! You will be amazed at how utterly this will transform your parenting!

I think my main gripe about this whole French-mothers-are-better-than-you idea is that nothing about this seems particularly French to me. Our American parents raised us exactly the same way, 40 years ago. We didn't snack all day because we were outside playing. They let us cry it out because they were 23 years old, and didn't feel like getting up. If our fathers gave us the "big eyes," we were extra-good for a week. And they did this all without experts, or peer groups, or stories in major newspapers purporting to show them the light. And so I say: 70s Parents Are Superior. Even to the French. Our parents were laissez-faire when Carla Bruni-Sarkozy was en couches-culottes. Or like our mothers called them: Pampers.

 
 
 

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The Wall Street Journal continues its mother-guilting march across the globe this weekend. After telling us last year "Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior", now they're out to tell us "Why French Paren...
The Wall Street Journal continues its mother-guilting march across the globe this weekend. After telling us last year "Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior", now they're out to tell us "Why French Paren...
 
 
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02:57 AM on 02/18/2012
Your last paragraph I have no problem with. I agree. But the rest sound whiny and bitter. It's not Europeans' fault that American society has forgotten all it's common sense (at least to a quite extensive degree) And if someone is trying to re-educated those wayward new American parents what's wrong with that? They DO need guidance. (no, of course not ALL, but enough of them that it's a problem.) We just need (and yes I say WE because I'm American, and a parent of 3 toddlers) to get over this silly pride that Europeans (or anyone for that matter) can't possibly be doing anything better than we are! I should also note that I live in Europe, and also still interact with a lot of American families...I've seen this all first hand. It's real.
10:14 AM on 02/14/2012
What? You wrote an article about a book you didn't even read? Do you allow your kids to read the first and last page of a book and then give a book report?
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09:23 AM on 02/17/2012
I'd allow my kids to write an essay responding to an essay, which is what I've done here. I made the disclaimer that I haven't read Ms. Druckerman's book because that's the truth. But she wrote this excerpt, and if the WSJ thinks it deserves to stand on its own, and Ms. Druckerman and her publisher approved it as a stand-alone, then readers have a right to judge the essay on the merits of it alone, not on whatever backpedaling or mitigating material might appear in the book.
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02:47 AM on 02/13/2012
Because they are conceited enough to write about it !!!
06:42 PM on 02/11/2012
Great post, Amy! I wrote something similar before I saw yours - very tongue et cheek. http://www.redtri.com/french-versus-american-parents-game-on
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07:25 AM on 02/11/2012
"Our parents were laissez-faire when Carla Bruni-Sarkozy was en couches-culottes." Where did this come from? The last thing a parent should be with their child is "laissez-faire".
12:49 PM on 02/10/2012
Saw the interview with the author yesterday - no idea if the French are superior or if they think they invented these techniques, but I can tell you that for the last 21 years I used those techniques to raise my own daughter. I got them from my parents when they raised me in the 60's. And I can also tell you I see very little good parenting going on among younger parents now -but there is an overwhelming concern for "self-esteem" and not hurting the kid's feelings about every little thing. I think it's just a justification for being a lazy parent. Kids take work, and sometimes you have to be the bad guy, instead of being the feel good parent. That's where "the big eyes" come in - my daughter knows those eyes very very well. Now she uses them herself as a summer camp counselor. The kids parents love her.
12:41 AM on 02/09/2012
Not having read the book either, I'm just reacting to reviews. So I have no way to know whether the author addresses which differences are cultural and which are generational, but it seems to me that's a central question to this whole debate. As a mom who has lived in France and raised children who are half French, I think there are some pretty sweeping generalizations here. Yes, there are cultural differences, but there are also strict parents and indulgent parents in any culture. And in any culture, there are kids who are a pleasure to be around, and kids who are less so. But statements like that don't sell books.
One telling assessment of US/French parenting differences comes from my teenage daughter, who has family on both continents and has experienced both styles of child-rearing: "Of course French children are better behaved! Their moms would slap them if they weren't!"
11:37 PM on 02/07/2012
This is a great post - thank you. I am extremely grateful to have grown up in the 70s, even with my bowl haircuts, my Toughskin jeans, my turtlenecks....I played every day from around 3pm until around 7 or 8pm with my friends - even with such compelling shows as 'Happy Days' and 'Three's Company', my friends and I chose to play wiffle ball and Nerf football rather than plop in front of the tube. The video games? Umm..Pong? We chose different games - some called 'Smear the Queer' (
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07:19 AM on 02/11/2012
Yeah, those were some messed up games. ;)
12:27 AM on 02/14/2012
They really were, right?? But, they sure were fun!! Could you imagine how fun it would be to play those games with your co-workers rights now??
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02:51 AM on 02/13/2012
Me too !! If I were a child now , ergh ? They would have me on every "pill" known to man . HAte to say it , I probably would be dead. No kidding .

How can people stay indoors so much ? My kids and I have been in forced isolation , watching tv , it would give anyone ADHD to watch that spin all day . Lets not even talk about the net ??? Don't let your kids get caught in it !

I loved my tough skins and turtlenecks !! My Big Wheel too !!! Fanned !!!
12:25 AM on 02/14/2012
Thanks Maverickpower! My sister is actually considering mocking up an adult-size Big Wheel (only with better tread than the ones we used to ride). Cool, huh?? My post was cut off for some reason. I also mentioned 'kick the can' - do you remember that one? It was totally old-school - it was even featured in an old Twilight Zone episode...we also used to play some deranged game where we would stand in the road waiting for a car and would dive into the bushes when it would get close....aww...the 70s!!
02:40 PM on 02/07/2012
The allusion made above that French mothers of very young children smoke is counterfactual. For more and deeper analysis than that of Pamela in the Wall Street Journal google Patrice Ayme "Why Are French Parents Superior".
12:30 AM on 02/09/2012
Way to promote your own work while criticizing your fellow reviewers. And given that rates of adult smoking in France are far higher than in the US (approx. 28% in France vs. approx. 20% in the US), I think it's reasonable to presume that more mothers smoke as wel.l ("Mothers of very young children" not being a particularly relevant category here, since older children are also susceptible to secondhand smoke). Please elaborate on where the "contrafactual" part comes from.
12:25 PM on 02/07/2012
Everyone--including Ms Druckerman--seems to be overlooking the fundamental reason behind our differences--they're cultural--how each culture views the primary "job" of a parent. French see the role of the parent as educating the child on how to CONFORM to society--learning the RULES and learning how to be "ACCEPTABLE." SOCIETY is the priority.

Americans see parents' primary role as creating an INDIVIDUAL who is UNIQUE and has few/no restrictions placed on becoming UNIQUE. Fitting in with society is not the primary goal, but establishing the child's uniqueness is. The CHILD is the priority.

Once kids become teenagers, it changes--American parents clamp down (theoretically) and expect kids to start toeing the line, learn the rules, get part-time jobs, and start being "adult" (again, theoretically and traditionally--I know there are many exceptions).

Once French kids become teenagers, having already learned society's rules, they're allowed greater freedom and are given more "adult privileges"...again, because they already know the rules. They've "earned" their freedom. They may well have sexual relationships with their significant others, with full knowledge/acceptance by their parents (the French don't have the Puritans in their history).

It's much deeper than just what appears on the surface, and not having read Ms Druckerman's book, I don't know if she gets into that or not--doesn't sound like it. A book that does is Cultural Misunderstandings by Raymonde Carroll--an in-depth look at the cultural thinking and assumptions that underlie behaviors.
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09:31 PM on 02/07/2012
Americans used to not be like this though. We need to get back to the older ways.
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07:16 PM on 02/06/2012
To over-simplify is to falsify. The same applies to broad, sweeping generalizations that have no basis in fact.
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03:42 PM on 02/10/2012
"All generalizations are false, including this one."
- Mark Twain
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05:01 AM on 02/11/2012
...generalizations are useful to assess the probability of an unwanted, unknown outcome where only limited information is available - as is the case most of the time.
02:34 PM on 02/06/2012
Well...here's another view of French mothers - the ones who kick their kids to get them to behave. No worries...it's done in the US, too. Ever hear of "blanket training"? Yeah. That. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/3632992/Is-Maman-mean-or-magnifique.html
01:56 PM on 02/07/2012
To clarify, I didn't mean to present *this* as the generalization of French parents, either. Just that any article that presents an anecdotal-based testimony is viewing a topic through a very narrow lens. And that there is good parenting and questionable parenting to be found everywhere.

Unfortunately, I do think that bad parenting gets more press than good or even "good enough" parenting. The child in line at the check-out crying behind you is 100 times louder than the 10 children in the store that you don't even hear. There are cultural differences, to be sure. But honestly, after having traveled and lived in several countries, my impression has been more commonality than not. In a world where we seem to be more likely to square off against each other, the headline and the way this article is being spun is just...too much of another divisive thing. I'm not sure this is how Druckerman wanted her book to be received...the articles may be doing it an injustice.
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04:51 PM on 02/07/2012
Thanks for posting that Telegraph story, Halushki. I thought it was a very interesting counter-balance, even if it's also "anecdotal-based testimony." Druckerman's book may be a good deal more nuanced than this excerpt; I think her publisher knew how to excerpt the most rabble-rousing parts in order to sell books.
01:46 PM on 02/06/2012
The real reason French parents are superior is that they would never bother asking themselves which country's parents are superior. Life isn't a competition, no matter how much the shoe companies tell us otherwise.
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07:44 PM on 02/06/2012
GOOD POINT Andrew!
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09:43 AM on 02/07/2012
Not a competition? Then how will I know when I am winning? :p