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Women Breadwinners: Why We Must Be Sensitive to Our Slower-Moving Husbands

Posted: 02/25/11 02:47 PM ET

I belong to one of the couple types that Hanna Rosin described in her recent piece on breadwinner wives in Slate magazine -- the one where the "woman is a born workaholic and the man lives a slower pace." Although it is more complex than those labels, I have nevertheless lived a version of that story for about 20 years.

I'm a professor, researcher and author; my husband is a naturopathic doctor/acupuncturist whose work schedule goes up and down depending on the economy. We have raised three children together (one is now 20, and the twins are 16 years old).

I have also spent 20 years researching and writing about the changing stories of breadwinning mothers and primary caregiving fathers (www.breadandrosesproject.ca).

So I read Rosin's piece with interest. This is an important issue that requires alternative viewpoints and good debate. I share Rosin's interest in understanding the current social and emotional geography of breadwinning wives. I like the way she points to asymmetries between statistics on women's rising earning power and some evidence of their preference for part-time work. Our approaches are different: hers is more on power dynamics between breadwinning wives and men; mine on the constantly shifting relations around work and care for breadwinning mothers and caregiving fathers.

But beyond this, I have two main responses to Rosin's piece: a concern about her "relationship survey" and surprise at her depiction of men.

The "Relationship Survey"

Surveys, which are instruments used to measure changing social life or what Rosin calls the "emotional landscape," are difficult to construct well. But they matter greatly to the knowledge that comes out the other end.

One quick example is the way her survey defines and measures housework contributions. Rosin's survey includes only two items on housework: First, "Which of you does more housework -- tidying up, doing laundry, making beds, etc?" And, second, "Which of you does more cooking?" She also has one item on childcare: "Who does most of the childcare duties in your relationship?"

There are two problems here. First, only women are asked questions about a topic that is deeply relational, as well as taken-for-granted, invisible, and highly contested. As a family researcher I can say that getting an accurate picture of housework is more complex than getting people to talk about their sexual relationship.

A second problem is around a point that I make in my book, "Do Men Mother?" That is, Rosin is doing what many other writers and researchers do: using a "maternal lens" to assess the lives of men. The work that men typically do, either in housework or childcare, is left largely invisible when one uses this lens. My guess is that men are going to end up looking pretty bad.

The best example I can give of the problem with underestimating what men do is found in Scott Coltrane's book, "Family Man"; he notes that throughout the 1980s and early 1990s, researchers continually cited a statistic that stated that women did an extra month of housework ever year.

Coltrane, an astute sociologist, looked more closely at the studies and found that they excluded what fathers did on weekends, as well as tasks such as shopping, household repair, painting and even driving children to activities and playing with them. (There are some weeks when my husband spends about 20 hours a week driving our children; with teens, a lot of parenting happens on those drives). It matters how we define and measure these things. And in today's multi-tasking world, it is even harder to define work time and family time.

What we do know, based on successive waves of rich data on this topic is that, in most countries, the participation of fathers in household life has increased with each passing year. Yes, fathers still do less routine housework than women, although it does continues to rise towards a point of gender convergence. What is important to note: Fathers' contributions to childcare have seen dramatic change.

A Startling Portrayal of Men

What startled me in the piece? Not the "end of men," but the portrayal of men.

There are only four kinds of men mentioned in this piece. There is that slow-moving man. There is also the stay-at-home dad who gets startled looks when he is in the classroom. (There have already been some excellent reactions by men who were startled by that). There are only two other men in this story: the part-time mechanic whose wife calls him a loser; and the man who spends "all her money on dress socks" while also subscribing "to every damned sports channel and why will he never clean up after himself?"

While she points to some stereotypes that may bear truth in some households, there is also a subtle belittling of men who are trying to adjust to their new roles.

Just as the changes in women's roles have been difficult, so have men's. We need to acknowledge and respect -- not belittle -- the impact these changes have had on both genders.

Men's voices on this issue of breadwinning wives are crucial.

It matters, for example, how this situation of shifting gender roles has come about.

  • Is it a long-term situation where the woman is passionate about her career and a man works for a paycheck, which then leads to him being the stay-at-home dad (or sustained secondary earner) when the kids come along?
  • Or are they both working in jobs they hate and she actually wants to be the one at home?
  • Or did he suddenly lose his job?

If it's the latter, it can be tough. As one laid-off factory worker recently told me, "It's almost like you're on ice that's breaking up. You don't really know what or where your role is."

What I know from my research on breadwinning mothers and caregiving fathers over the past two decades is that, while a small revolution in gender roles has occurred, men and women continue to be in a process of transition around issues of breadwinning and care.

It's a relational dance, it changes each day, each week, each year.

And an approach that pits women against men cannot get at the rich relational processes that underpin these 21st century stories, and our understanding of them.

What do I know from 20 years of living this? Yes, sometimes there are tensions between this woman who works too hard and the man I share my life with, who "lives a slower pace."

Yet, the differences and tensions in what, and how much, we each do are eclipsed by the fact that he has supported me at the critical moments in my career where I have needed unwavering and full-on emotional and practical support in order to achieve my goals. Lately there have been some pretty big things on my plate. And I have said to him, "This is what I need." And he has done that and more. His more laid back approach, meanwhile, translates into fun and balance in a household where I work too hard and stress about too many things.

And the relationship he has with our three daughters, especially in facilitating their evolution as tough, athletic, independent young women, makes all those slow moving moments seem, well, just not that important.

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This piece originally appeared on The Good Men Project Magazine.

 
 
 

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I belong to one of the couple types that Hanna Rosin described in her recent piece on breadwinner wives in Slate magazine -- the one where the "woman is a born workaholic and the man lives a slower pa...
I belong to one of the couple types that Hanna Rosin described in her recent piece on breadwinner wives in Slate magazine -- the one where the "woman is a born workaholic and the man lives a slower pa...
 
 
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11:31 AM on 03/14/2011
Sadly, for me, the case of me working more than my boyfriend and he neglecting the non-paid house duties became a problem of abuse. I think it could work if the man in question actually does the house work.
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littlebrowngirl
Brevity is the soul of wit - Shakespeare
07:18 AM on 03/03/2011
Michelle Obama was the breadwinning and more established in her career than Barack. It is not until he started writing books and getting national attention that he started earning more money. This guy handles it was grace. Many men can learn from this. When you are a couple you make it work for the family. It is not a competition.
11:39 PM on 03/02/2011
Boy, have you got a lot to learn about kneejerk man-hating. ;-)

It's rare to see something on this subject done this well and this thoughtfully.
01:25 PM on 03/03/2011
Many thanks for the appreciative comment emncalty!
08:34 AM on 03/02/2011
Years, ago my best friend was earning more than his wife; they told me then that their bank accounts are open book. But things have changed then. My best friend has been laid off (and is still unemployed for almost a year now) and his wife has become successful in her career and definitely earning lot, lot more. Accordingly, they have two bank accounts, one joint, and the other one is his wife's, to which her husband has no access. My friend is shocked by the turn of events but more importantly, by the fact that he didn't expect his wife would be different when it comes to money.
He's devastated. I'm afraid he's beginning to see his wife not as a wife but more as a conniving business partner.
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FTracy3
My micro-bio is as empty as the rest of my life.
01:47 PM on 02/28/2011
Just tell them to man up.
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Tom Matlack
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11:44 AM on 02/28/2011
All this girls rule, boys drool crap has got to stop. Men and women are both changing roles, which is an opportunity for both genders. Isn't that what women (feminists) have always wanted? Isn't active fathers, good husbands who care less about work and more about love a good thing? No idea why we have to proclaim THE END OF MEN! and write stuff like was in Slate and WSJ recently. For a look at this whole issue from a progressive men's prospective please go to: http://bit.ly/WSJonMen

BTW, Andrea you ROCK girlfriend! Thanks for being on the journey with GMP.
09:28 AM on 03/02/2011
Tom - Thanks for the great comment and for kind words.
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
03:25 PM on 02/27/2011
Modern male female relationships and gender roles are so ritualized that it causes cognitive dissonance to change any part.
Tara Hunkoff
I could have been Sheila Noyeau
10:45 AM on 02/27/2011
My mother saw the changes coming back in the mid-Sixties. Her words were like ice water splashed in my face: "The day is coming when women will judged by their career success, just like men." I started paying a lot more attention to my future right then.

I'm glad I did, because my newly awakened goal-setting served me well as both homemaker and breadwinner later. It influenced my romantic life too.

I realized that no man worth dating for very long - let alone marrying - would lack goals. I urge every woman to remember that. You don't have to have a high-powered career to be a good mate, but I don't think much of a man with no goals at all.
10:59 AM on 02/27/2011
I'm pretty goal-less right now, and I think I may be happier than I've ever been. (Even though realistically, things are not so good.) There's something very Zen about going with the flow.
Tara Hunkoff
I could have been Sheila Noyeau
11:18 AM on 02/27/2011
Chop wood, carry water.
10:04 AM on 02/27/2011
Too bad it is impossible to live on one income. If you could, another option would be for both to either have part-time jobs or freelance, and not be so stuck in a routine.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
01:28 PM on 02/27/2011
the time will come soon where it is even more difficult to live on 2 incomes....our dollar will continue its freefall.
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jsalspach
love people, use things, never the reverse
08:40 AM on 03/01/2011
I know this sounds off base but my spouse and I have lived on my income for almost 10 years. I am a nurse not a high powered executive but we live comfortably within our means and have raised my 2 daughters. It definitely wasn't always easy and I would not really recommend it but in our case there were no other options. Thankfully I love my job and he has learned that a man doesn't need to work outside of the house to accomplish a great deal anymore than a woman does.
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littlebrowngirl
Brevity is the soul of wit - Shakespeare
08:05 AM on 02/27/2011
In a relationship and a household there are things to be done. A mature couple will adjust as needed and not get so rapped up in who should do what based on gender. The important thing is that the dishes get done, not who does the dishes.
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Linda P
11:51 AM on 02/27/2011
Absolutely correct !!!! Maturity is the essential factor to realize the concept of "value added" we need to realize the importance of that and that working together with individuals doing what they CAN do for the good of the relationship and family is the key... and no tally sheet... that's the difference between mature and immature..
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Dukedraven
04:33 AM on 02/27/2011
It wouldn't bother me. Where is it written that a woman must earn more than a man?
10:36 AM on 02/27/2011
It depends on the difference in incomes and the reasons for them. If the wife is a doctor and the husband is an artist or writer or something it can work out fine. The problem stems whent the husband decides he doesn't much like working and then makes excuses or quits jobs all the time and then decides he is "too old" which is what happened to me. I do have a much better sympathy for all those trapped middleaged men who never leave a wife they don't much like anymore purely for financial reasons. I cannot afford paying spousal support so I am stuck with my millstone around my neck forever because in my mind poverty trumps everything including happiness.
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Dukedraven
02:57 PM on 02/27/2011
Being lazy is another matter. I'm speaking of the principle that it's okay for a woman to earn more than a man, for whatever occupational reason.
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
11:32 PM on 03/01/2011
So many men have had your experience.
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Vegan Girl
Compassion for all
02:22 AM on 02/27/2011
I once had a very, very smart shrink. And when I asked him whether humankind is progressing or not, he said the following.

"Women are invading the sphere of men, and that is good. But we will be truly better once men also invaded the world of women." What was particularly strange to me was that he put down the entire human condition (wars, rebellions, oppressions) to one war: the one between genders.

As men are slowly invade the sphere of women: household chores, spending time with the kids, we should not forgive that: we should celebrate that!
recless
Evidence first. Believe later. Maybe.
02:35 AM on 02/27/2011
Interesting but I can't think of a rational reason to accept the claim that you can put it all on a gender war. Certainly has a role, but pinning the entire human history on one aspect of human nature is an all too easy mistake.
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Vegan Girl
Compassion for all
02:45 AM on 02/27/2011
Perhaps. But if you look at the famous people at the wrong side of history, you will probably find that they had sad, unhappy, miserable childhoods. Imagine a world consisting of well adjusted, happy people ONLY. (We wouldn't have conservativism here in the US, I think.) I think there would be no wars, no corporate crimes, no oppression, because people, leaders and all others, would have no stomach to do those things to each other. Just a thought.
01:41 AM on 02/27/2011
I made a trade off to work on a factory assemblyline to provide for my family. A dirty physical job 12 hours a day 7 days a week. My familys needs came before my carreer satisfaction.As a man I thought that was my responsibility.My exwife would complain that i was never home with the children leaving her the sole caregiver.I was then laid off for over a year. During that time I became the major care giver to 3 children under 6 years of age.I loved it. I got to see my daughter take her first steps,say her first word.I walked them to school every morning .Made their lunchs,washed their clothes.I would get greif for not folding the towels the way she doesnot doing many things the way she did them.I had dinner ready when she got home from work.She thought less of me for not being the breadwinner. I would never have given up the opportunity to be a real part of my childres live.It made me a better man and a better father. I accepted my assembly job for what it was, a way to feed and clothe my family It was not a career.In my male peer group I was looked down upon.The women thought there was something wrong with me as a man. I started to question my own masculinity. I loved nurturing my 3 children.It gave me a sense of accomplishment
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Vegan Girl
Compassion for all
02:24 AM on 02/27/2011
Nope, there is nothing wrong with you. it's the world that's crazy.
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recless
Evidence first. Believe later. Maybe.
02:40 AM on 02/27/2011
A man's sense of masculinity is different from a woman's sense of femininity. For us it is more like an on/off switch. A guy either feels masculine or he does not... there are no degrees.

But you are right. We need to better teach men to make their own determinations on their masculinity and not let society, culture, and religion define it for us.
10:01 AM on 02/27/2011
So, she was unhappy when you had a job because you were never home. And unhappy when you were home because you didn't have a job? Some people will never be happy.
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Linda P
11:52 AM on 02/27/2011
sigh.... I've seen this happen a lot ...
01:00 AM on 02/27/2011
I'm half of an unmarried, childfree couple cohabiting, but this article still hits home in some ways for me. Boyfriend lost his job after the market tanked, which left me as the primary earner in the household; it required a lot of adjusting for BOTH of us. I had no idea, the level of pressure that the main breadwinner is under, and I'm pretty sure that he had no idea about the level of work it takes to sustain a household. Great article.
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Linda P
11:55 AM on 02/27/2011
We're in a similar situation... and in addition dealing with traumatic injuries ... what I tell him is that he'd do the SAME for me if the situation was reversed ..
05:20 PM on 02/27/2011
Teshkie - Thanks for the comment and positive feedback!
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Morgantheaxe
Eisenhower Republicans don't drink tea!!
12:44 AM on 02/27/2011
My wife is more succesful monetarily than I am. I have sacrificed my career choices just as many wives have for their more succesful husbands. What has always amazed me is the fact that a husband who out earns his wife buys property and what not that property is theirs. When the wife out earns the husband the general consensus is what they have purchased is hers. As far as her family is concerned everything we own is hers.