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President Ron Paul? Ron Paul and the John Birch Society

Posted: 07/ 5/11 11:24 AM ET

During the Vietnam War, an Army major famously told reporter Peter Arnett "It became necessary to destroy the town to save it"

Welcome to Dr. Ron Paul's (R.-Tx) prescription for America. If he ever becomes President, you won't recognize the place.

Rep. Ron Paul's got a public image as a sort of amiable eccentric -- Uncle Fuzzy in DC. He favors legalizing marijuana, getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan and generally cutting the defense budget, and ending corporate welfare -- all positions that get him a sympathetic hearing with a lot of Americans. And he knows how to sound sensible, principled, and down-to-earth.

That's good for him, because it helps camouflage one of the country's most extreme right-wing politicians -- a very close ally of the John Birch Society (JBS), which is best understood as a sort of seed bank for right wing ideas, rather than an active political agent -- but one with long arms in today's political landscape.

Rep. Paul's ideas are so extreme that no sensible voter would give him a second look if it wasn't for the Uncle Fuzzy persona.

How extreme? Here's some of what Uncle Fuzzy told a group of young followers he'd do if he made it to the Oval Office.

  • Allow anybody to mint money by passing the "...Free Competition in Currency Act, which repeals legal tender laws and all taxes on gold and silver.";
  • Force the FDA and the FTC to allow any dietary supplement onto the market "...unless they have clear evidence that the manufacturer's clams are not true." This is a prescription for endless lawsuits.
  • Kill Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid for future generations;
  • End Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid benefits for people getting them now --but giving them "...time to prepare for the day when responsibility for providing aide is returned to those organizations best able to administer compassionate and effective help--churches and private charities."
  • Fire up to 800,000 federal workers through attrition, not filling vacancies for "non-essential" jobs.
  • Veto budgets he didn't like;
  • Substantially defund federal education programs;
  • Likewise, defund the Byrne Grants that help local police fight interstate crime; something even the conservative Heritage Foundation opposes.


Not very fuzzy, is it? And that's just part of his list. You can read the whole text here.

Where did Rep. Paul get these ideas? Well, mostly from the seed bank of the John Birch Society. While he's not a member, he's been close to it since at least the 1970s.

"Ron Paul may not be a member of the John Birch Society, but you need a micrometer to tell them apart," says Chip Berlet, a senior analyst at Political Research Associates who's been tracking the JBS and other right wing groups for years. Berlet sometimes writes for The Huffington Post.

In recent years the JBS has played a major -- and acknowledged -- role in the Tea Party, which is better known for being funded by the likes of the Koch Brothers.

The Koch Brothers, who deny they're JBS members, are themselves sons of a JBS founder, Fred Koch. The JBS itself says it never discloses its member list.

But the JBS makes no bones about its connections to the Tea Party. "We've been helping train the Tea Party for some time, teaching it how to organize and avoid some of the mistakes we made," says Bill Hahn, a JBS spokesman.

Rep. Paul himself has no problem discussing his close JBS ties. Giving the keynote address at the JBS' 50th Anniversary dinner, for instance, he said "I'm sure there are people in this room who probably helped me at that time [win the 1976 election] because I know so many of you have over the years."

Then he told the room a story about his first news conference in Washington. Someone from Houston asked if he was a JBS member. "I'm not a member [of the John Birch Society]," he told the reporter, but "...the members of the John Birch Society have been very good friends of mine and have been very helpful in my campaign."

More recently, Rep. Paul made his sympathies with the JBS, as well as a good glimpse into his short-term agenda, perfectly clear during a speech he made to the South Texas chapter of the JBS in August, 2009. There's a three-part video of this speech on YouTube that you can see here, here, and here. It's not just a sobering speech for anyone without far-right sympathies; it almost sounds sensible -- a clear indication of just how deeply JBS ideas have penetrated the American mainstream.

The JBS is pretty obscure today, partly by choice. It needed time to regroup after William F. Buckley Jr. and Barry Goldwater cast it out of the conservative movement in 1962 for being too crazy -- crazy enough to threaten their plans to elect Goldwater President, and turn America to the right. But it dug in, survived, and is enjoying a renaissance today.

How crazy the JBS was in the old days bears repeating. They didn't just insist President Eisenhower was a Communist agent; they believed the world is in the grip of what Berlet's employer, Political Research Associates, calls "...an unbroken ideologically-driven conspiracy linking the Illuminati, the French Revolution, the rise of Marxism and Communism, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the United Nations." Political Research Associates is a progressive think tank based in Somerville, Mass.

These same ideas are floating around among Rep. Paul's supporters. In June, 2009, for instance, somebody calling himself Robert W. Benjamin wrote on the website of Rep. Paul's Campaign for Liberty about how the "satanic" Rothschild family, operating through the Illuminati (allegedly based on the teaching of the Talmud), took over the Freemasons and now controls the so-called Lucifer Trust, supposedly financed by the Rockefeller Foundation.

Ideas like that would have been enough to throw the JBS into the twilight of short-wave radio broadcasts and booths at gun shows. But luckily for it, many of the very rich people pushing the ideas now afflicting American politics have JBS roots -- including the Koch Brothers and Richard Mellon Scaife. Scaife, also son of a JBS founder, is the man who financed Bill Clinton's impeachment.

Again, Rep. Paul's not a JBS member. But considering his close ties to it, and the close similarity of their views, it may not be necessary for Rep. Paul to be a JBS member to have deep sympathies -- and connections -- with it.

For instance: According to Rep. Paul, one of his first political mentors was Larry McDonald, a Congressman from Marietta, Georgia and JBS chairman.

In his keynote speech to the JBS, in fact, he says that when he was thinking about running for Congress in 1974, "The first person I called was Larry McDonald, a great American...His advice, I remember, was 'Run in the party where you think you can win,' because he realized the parties were irrelevant -- it was just to see where you could be the most successful."

McDonald himself is an interesting character without his being Rep. Paul's political mentor. What makes him interesting, though, raises questions about the sort of people Rep. Paul thinks are appropriate for him to be hanging around with.

Before he ran for Congress, McDonald was an internist in Marietta and had a thriving practice treating cancer patients with laetrile, a so-called miracle cure for cancer. In fact, laetrile, also called vitamin B-17, is cyanide; the FDA calls it a "quack medication" with no cancer-fighting qualities at all, and in 2004 it sent a man to jail for 60 months for selling it.

In the mid-70s, according to the JBS spokesman, Mr. Hahn, the JBS denounced laetrile. This may have had something to do with the fact that people who were taking laetrile to cure their cancer were dying instead.

But that didn't stop JBS members, including McDonald, from promoting it, and in fact the two major figures in the laetrile movement, Robert Bradford and Dr. John Richardson, were JBS members. Both were convicted in 1977 of smuggling laetrile into the country.

According to a long series published in 1976 in The Atlanta Journal, Larry McDonald used his laetrile practice to buy an arsenal of guns. Jim Stewart, who along with Paul Lieberman reported the series, told me how, posing as a cancer patient wanting to be treated with laetrile, McDonald gave him a pile of forms that he said Stewart needed to fill out,. Stewart retired from CBS News, where he covered national security, after 34 years as a reporter.

In the pile, said Stewart, was a federal gun purchase permit. McDonald later used the permits he acquired this way to buy weapons -- something he and Lieberman proved were used by McDonald by being taken into the attic where they were stored, taking a gun, and giving it to an officer of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF), who traced the gun to one of McDonald's patients.

According to Stewart and Lieberman's reporting, McDonald turned his laetrile practice over to another doctor, Dr. Robert C. Shuman, when he decided to run for Congress in 1974 -- about the same time Rep. Paul first asked McDonald for advice on running for office.

Shuman, they reported, was a JBS member who would only treat patients with laetrile if they made a contribution to the Larry McDonald for Congress Committee -- and joined the John Birch Society.

The reason this is ancient history is important isn't just because it raises questions about Rep. Paul's judgment, and the people he's associated with who've helped him get where he is today, but because the people helping him today are likewise JBS members -- and some of them promote laetrile.

These last include one G. Edward Griffin, a California businessman who sometimes speaks at Ron Paul rallies -- much like John McManus, JBS' President, who warmed up the crowd at the 2008 Ron Paul rally, Rally for the Republic.

By his own account, Mr Griffin is a life member of the JBS, promotes laetrile (he's written a book about it called World Without Cancer), and today heads something called Freedom Force International. Mr. Griffin calls this group an international organization that seeks political power to fight what he considers collectivism, and says it's allied with -- but not part of -- the JBS. As it happens, he urges Freedom Force members to also join the JBS.

Interesting company for somebody many people think of as amiable, eccentric Uncle Fuzzy.

I gave Rep. Paul's office several chances to respond to us for this story. His Congressional press secretary referred me to his campaign, which never replied.

Visit my website, Reinbach's Observer.

 
 
 
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06:10 AM on 08/31/2011
These people think we are stupid and can't see right through their bull. It's fine though the more you try to slander him the more people will actually look into what hes really about and ron paul doesn't lose supporters only gains kinda like his gold portfolio!
03:34 PM on 08/14/2011
Your arguement donates a lack of intellectual honesty. I believe you have, what Archie Cochran called, "The God Complex." Being predisposed to dislike Dr. Paul the individual, you are quickly becoming part of the fringe referring to the masses as the fringe. If that is the case, then no combination of words stir your thoughts. The day you consider yourself truly knowledgeable beyond reproach, the consumption of knowledge is sorely needed. "As for me, all I know is that I know nothing..." -Socrates
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03:14 PM on 08/11/2011
ron paul is an exact copy of the founding fathers in the Jefferson Camp. What you guys think is a liberal. Thats Ron Paul. A Conservative is someone who stands for Individual Rights! Not collective rights. Modern day Republican are not Conservatives, they are a branch of the Teddy Roosevelt progressive.
11:00 PM on 08/06/2011
Elect Ron Paul in 2012
11:05 PM on 07/13/2011
People of America from all walks of life are coming together and sending a very powerful message.

We demand of each other peace, liberty, equality, justice, charity and the opportunity to fulfill our lives however we wish without unnecessary interference. In return, we will provide for each other these very same things under a neutral and transparent system of mediation and government codifying our reciprocal responsibilities to each other.

It's very simple stuff which doesn't need to come from any think-tank to be understood and popular.
The manipulation of the debate is over. This ultimatum is no secret.
Politically aware populations cannot be controlled.
11:03 AM on 07/10/2011
To oppose Ron Paul and the philosophy of peace and freedom he represents while at the same time claiming the moral high road is preposterous. Ron Paul is the only 2012 candidate that thinks you are better equipped to make decisions about your life than some bureaucrat. The author's belief that only he and his kind (while using force) are smart enough to tell the rest of us what to do is appalling. If you think that there's some difference between republicans and democrats you are clueless....there is Ron Paul and then there is everyone else.
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12:09 PM on 07/11/2011
So you like Ron Paul believe you are capable of making decisions about your lives without the government helping. Okay, that is reasonable for 2 maybe even a hundred Americans, but what about 308,745,538 Americans (per census 2010) with no direction from a government agency. Who is to say that Ron Paul thinks about his ideal concept within the scope of reality with 308,745,538 Americans being the kings of their own life.
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Pointing out the hypocrisy of the Left and Right
11:58 PM on 08/02/2011
sounds good be the king of your own lie aslong as you respect others constitutional rights and dont hurt anybody.
01:12 PM on 08/08/2011
Who are the real elitist? Those who think that they know how others should live their lives. As if people are not capable of making their own decisions without being told how to act.
09:24 AM on 07/10/2011
If you are looking for an agenda in Ron Paul, its there, His goal is to return the federal government to the confines of the United States Constitution. I know is sounds sick, but is the only way to save this country from self destruction. Yes you would not be able to recognize the federal government after he got through, but the founding fathers would!
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12:37 PM on 07/11/2011
To the horrors of people wanting to return to the original confines of the Constitution is its original intent to work for the common welfare of the people. You might like to read the Preamble for a change instead of those parts you see yourself being denied.
02:52 PM on 07/11/2011
Does the preamble go against Ron Paul's ideas?
07:16 PM on 07/11/2011
The common welfare means protecting the life liberty and property of everyone equally under the law. It is interesting to me that you have such a negative view of humanity(300 million egotistica­l modern American people) and yet you are ok with giving a few power over everyone else. Why do you think that some leader you elect is going to be so enlightened and above being egotistical by which I am assuming you mean self interested? Also it sounds like you imagine the government under Ron Paul as being some anarchic free for all where the law has no meaning. (That may not be what you believe but it seems like it.) This is not at all how it would be under him. Also you assume that he would be able to do whatever he wanted. Unlike other current presidents he doesn't just come up with some random way of defining war to justify it or use other tactics to take extra power to the executive. Most of the issues he believes in he would not have much power over because under the Constitution those powers are delegated to congress. And he believes in sticking to the Constitution.
07:50 AM on 07/10/2011
Andrew, I am not seeing the problem here if anything you have made me more pro Paul than ever thank you!
08:48 PM on 07/09/2011
These speak volumes on the subject. From a great PROGRESSIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYIC0eZYEtI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr7ePrCAqzo

Feel the shift?
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Thomas Paine Reincarnated/guarding the guardians
07:51 PM on 07/09/2011
Andrew, "Rep. Paul's ideas are so extreme that no sensible voter would give him a second look if it wasn't for the Uncle Fuzzy persona."

I don't mind the smear campaign. One can take information and spin or justify it any way one wants. But it is not "extreme" to want real solutions to our nations ills. And to be honest, one who realizes the problems this country is facing knows that because the government was allowed to grow extremely bloated, corrupt, and impotent... the solution does look extreme.

we are 15 trillion dollars in debt
we owe trillions entitlements that we cannot pay for
we are fighting in 3 wars, and have thousands of military bases
we have the highest population of citizens in prison in the world
we bailout the rich at the expense of the middle class
our real unemployment rate is at 15 or 16 percent
inflation keeps getting worse
no manufacturing

In order to solve these problems....one cannot continue down the same path that got us into this situation.

These problems are a result of big government: of government entitlements and warfare, government tied into partnerships with lobbyists and corporations, government tied into the Federal Reserve

The solution, is then smaller government. It is a tough solution and one that may initially shock people. - but if you look into the constitution, the bill of rights, and the history of our nation you'll find a blueprint on how to successfully run a country.
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08:34 PM on 07/09/2011
I agree with a lot of your diagnosis, Pirates, but not the prescription. And let me say at the outset that this is a mere policy disagreement--not resistance to the One Truth, which is a posture many Paulies adopt, and a big reason they're not getting much traction, even withi the Republican Party [I read Red State].

Having said that, it does seem to me that Rep. Paul's prescriptions are supply-side economics, trickle-down theory, and small government ideas on steroids. These seem to me to be what got us here. In fact there's a large and strong body of evidence, shorn of explanations to the contrary, that suggest the entire point of the above was to land us in the current pass, so prescriptions like Rep. Paul's, and those of the GOP leadreship in general, could be presented as the only solution.

I personally don't see how larger doses of what got us here will get us out of it. I think the opposite is true; admitting those ideas were wrong, and going back to what a large number of Reagan's own people prescribe. I recognize people of your ilk disagree, and disagree sincerely--but I just don't see how 30 year's experimentation with this result recommends much more of the same, and it does seem to me that Rep. Paul's recommendations represent exactly that.

Naturally, i expeft to be roundly attacked for saying this; but that's life in the NBA.
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11:02 PM on 07/09/2011
I am not republican. I am independent. Ronald Reagan, if you look at the facts - actually left this country carrying a huge deficit (at the time)

And I don't see how you can state that republican ideology has been in place for 30 years. In what policies? How? and if so then why is Obama and the dems supporting point for point exactly what Bush did from 2001-2008?

But lets get past the parties and labels for a second: I personally think that dems and repubs are members of the same party right now. It's called corrupt big government. It's called, having no courage to make the right decisions. It's called wars, spending, and impotency.

So what is your solution?

Before Reagan, Johnson tried the War on Poverty.

After the Great Depression, FDR tried the New Deal.

Both of these programs, on the whole, failed to accomplish their goals when you consider the investment, resources, effort given to them.

Ron Paul represents something Jeffersonian, something early American, something that this country hasn't seen in quite some time, something that worked. I assume that perhaps I take the risk of seeming old-school, seeming in the past. But I mean when people say:

Ron Paul stands for civil liberties, anti-war/ against the military industrial complex, following the constitution and the bill of rights, for the gold standard/ending the fed. They are alluding to that kind of early America.
07:57 PM on 07/10/2011
Thanks for the dialogue.

Reinbach "I personally don't see how larger doses of what got us here will get us out of it."

But, sir we've had socialism on "steroids" since at least FDR's era.

The assumption is that big government, regulations, high taxes and inflation of the currency had nothing to do with it; that "30 years" of socialism HAD NOTHING (?) to do with it? But that HAS been the policy of America practiced by both parties.

If America had in place policies that you accuse people like congressman Paul of wanting we wouldn't be in this mess.

Less government and lower taxes would have produced a far better nation due to the fact that a free people can out produce a stagnant economy that is centrally managed as it is now.

Paul wants to break that cycle that is leading us to national ruin.

Both parties have fostered a domestic policy of big government to pay for welfare for the poor and the rich (farm subsidies and tax breaks, etc) and a foreign policy of warfare.

"it does seem to me that Rep. Paul's prescripti­ons are supply-sid­e economics, trickle-do­wn theory,..." Those are Reagan's not Paul's.
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CarlGustavJung
Anti-war, Anti-Collectivism, Pro-Individualism
04:19 PM on 07/09/2011
Who's afraid of Ron Paul? Are we a little threatened by an actual anti-war candidate? Who would end the patriot act, end the drug war, the assault on civil liberties? Trying to keep everybody in partisan playpens?

Yea. much better to vote for obama, who will continue the wars, the patriotact, the erosion of civil liberties, the drug war, bailouts, etc.

But at least he doesn't have scary associations to political groups you don't agree with.
04:10 PM on 07/09/2011
Ron Paul wants to defund education. TRUE. At least it's true as far as Federal involvement goes. The current process involves sending $1 to Washington which then sends 70 cents back to the states with instructions on how that money must be spent.

WHAT!? We pay for the whole program, the federal government takes a chunk and then TELLS US HOW TO EDUCATE OUR KIDS? Yep! That's the program Andrew is championing. Bush's "No Child Left Behind" program is part of that. And Ron Paul wants to get rid of it. He wants to get rid of the Department of Education. And he wants the tax money to stay in the states (no strings attached) where voters can decide for themselves how to spend the money to educate their children.

If that's scary to you, you probably work for the Department of Education - or - you've been smoking the same loco-weed Andrew has.

A final note: Andrew's main thrust seems to be to link Ron Paul to the John Birch Society. I don't think he's done a credible job, but suppose some JBS members see something worthwhile in Ron Paul's positions on the issues. Does that mean Ron Paul is wrong? Or that some of the JBS members have gotten it right?
04:03 PM on 07/09/2011
On social security, medicare, medicaid and closing out 800,000 federal jobs - why do you think our economy is collapsing? Why do you think we're $14.5 trillion in debt?

Ron Paul is a doctor. He never turned away a patient and never took a dime of medicare or medicaid money. Think he know something about medicine? About the finances of medicine? As he often points out, the cost of phone technology has plummeted because it hasn't been regulated by government, while the cost of medical care, highly regulated by government, has soared. You pay a LOT of money for that government interference. Wouldn't you rather interact directly with your doctor and NOT pay for the government overhead?

The Federal Government is the largest employer in the country. It produces nothing but it costs trillions. You pay for it. If you WANT to keep paying for the government to produce nothing, Ron Paul isn't your guy. If you're sick to death of seeing your tax money go into wasteful actions, then you'll understand why Ron Paul wants to downsize government. Apparently Andrew doesn't get it. Paul's not planning on firing those people. He just doesn't plan to hire replacements when they're gone.
03:57 PM on 07/09/2011
Prejudiced reporting at best. More like a smear job.

First off, let's take away the name-calling. Andrew Reibach is closely associated with the Communist Party. Why? Because I say so. Sort of like Ron Paul is a John Bircher because Andrew says so.

Now let's look at facts: Gold is gold and silver is silver. If I mint a 1 ounce silver coin, why should it not be as good as a government-issued silver coin? What Andrew leaves out is that Paul isn't proposing the issuance of FIAT money, which is what the government does today. In effect, every time the Federal Reserve issues a trillion dollars in new currency, they REDUCE the value of every dollar you have. It is a TAX and it has wiped out the middle class, reducing the value of a dollar to just 2 cents compared to its 1913 buying power. Mandating the use of REAL MONEY (gold or silver backed) would eliminate the ability of government to levy this hidden tax.

Dietary supplements: The FDA is hell bent on controlling everything from mineral supplements to vitamins. You want to give the Feds the power to force you to get a prescription for your daily multivitamin? Well, that's what Ron Paul is trying to prevent. Sounds real scary when you know the facts, right?
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03:31 PM on 07/09/2011
Wow talk about a smear campaign, im voting for Ron Paul to end all wars,foreign aide and return us to liberty and the Constitution.
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Le laissez-faire, c'est fini
03:42 PM on 07/09/2011
So are you a libertarian anarchist, a conspiracy theorist, or a little of both?
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04:00 PM on 07/09/2011
i hate anarchy that is no government which is VERY bad. Im a libertarian i believe in liberty,freedom,small government and the Constitution. if you dont like these things and like socialism go live in Greece. I hear Socialism is working real Well in Greece.
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CarlGustavJung
Anti-war, Anti-Collectivism, Pro-Individualism
04:21 PM on 07/09/2011
Oh, conspiracy theorists, how scary. What a scary word. We all know that there could never be conspiracy to keep the status quo.
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04:01 PM on 07/09/2011
Real liberals fight against libertirism, you're simply another goose that believes liberalism equals or is an evolved libertirism. I suggest you check out a dictionary.
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Government is never good, at best necessary.
11:07 AM on 07/11/2011
The word is libertarian or libertarianism. The classical liberal is a libertarian before the progressives/marxists/statists stole the name. I suggest you check out a history of the late 19th century (and a dictionary).