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Andy Kroll

Andy Kroll

Posted: October 5, 2010 10:22 AM

Crossposted with TomDispatch.com.

[Research support for this story was provided by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute.]

Sometime in early June -- he's not exactly sure which day -- Rick Rembold joined history. That he doesn't remember comes as little surprise: Who wants their name etched into the record books for not having a job?

For Rembold, that day in June marked six months since he'd last pulled a steady paycheck, at which point his name joined the rapidly growing list of American workers deemed "long-term unemployed" by the Department of Labor. In the worst jobs crisis in generations, the ranks of Rembolds, stranded on the sidelines, have exploded by over 400% -- from 1.3 million in December 2007, when the recession began, to 6.8 million this June. The extraordinary growth of this jobless underclass is a harbinger of prolonged pain for the American economy.

This summer, I set out to explore just why long-term unemployment had risen to historic levels -- and stumbled across Rembold. A 56-year-old resident of Mishawaka, Indiana, he caught the unnerving mix of frustration, anger, and helplessness voiced by so many other unemployed workers I'd spoken to. "I lie awake at night with acid indigestion worrying about how I’m going to survive," he said in a brief bio kept by the National Employment Law Project, which is how I found him. I called him up, and we talked about his languishing career, as well as his childhood and family. But a few phone calls, I realized, weren't enough. In early August I hopped a plane to northern Indiana.

In job terms, my timing couldn't have been better. I arrived around lunchtime, and was driving through downtown South Bend, an unremarkable cluster of buildings awash in gray and brown and brick, when my cell phone rang. Rembold's breathless voice was on the other end. "Sorry I didn't pick up earlier, man, but a friend just called and tipped me off about a place up near the airport. I'm fillin' up my bike and headin' up there right now." I told him I'd meet him there, hung a sharp U-turn, and sped north.

Twenty minutes later, I pulled into the parking lot of a modest-sized aircraft parts manufacturer tucked into a quiet business park. Ford and Chevy trucks filled the lot, most backed in. Rembold roared up soon after on his '99 Suzuki motorcycle. Barrel-chested with a thick neck, his short black hair was flecked with gray, and he was deeply tanned from long motorcycle rides with his girlfriend Terri. "They didn't even advertise this job," he told me after a hearty handshake. Not unless you count the inconspicuous sign out front, a jobless man's oasis in the blinding heat: "NOW HIRING: Bench Inspector."

His black leather portfolio in hand, Rembold took a two-sided application from a woman who greeted us inside the tiny lobby. He filled it out in minutes, the phone numbers, names, dates, and addresses committed to memory, handed it to the secretary, and in a polite but firm tone asked to speak with someone from management. While we waited, he pointed out the old Studebaker factories in a black-and-white sketch of nineteenth century South Bend on the wall, launching into a Cliffs Notes history of industry in this once-bustling corner of the Midwest.

A manager finally emerges with Rembold's application in hand. Rembold rushes to explain away the three jobs he had listed in the “previous employers” section -- stints at a woodworking company, motorcycle shop, and local payday lender.  They’re not, he assures the man, indicative of his skills; they're not who he is. You see, he rushes to add, he's been in manufacturing practically his entire life, a hard and loyal worker who made his way up from the shop floor to sales and then to management. That kind of experience won't fit in three blank spots on a one-page form. Unswayed, the manager thanks him formulaically for applying.

If the company's interested, the manager says -- and it feels like a kiss-off even to me -- they'll be in touch, and before we know it we’re back out in the smothering heat of an Indiana summer. Rembold tucks his portfolio into one of the Suzuki's leather saddlebags. "Well, that's pretty standard," he says, his tone remarkably matter-of-fact. "At least I got to talk to somebody. You're lucky to get that anymore."

A Perfect Storm Hits American Labor

The numbers tell so much of the story. The 6.76 million Americans -- or 46% of the entire unemployed labor force -- counted as long-term unemployed in June were the most since 1948, when the statistic was first recorded, and more than double the previous record of 3 million in the recession of the early 1980s. (The numbers have since dipped slightly, with a total of 6.2 million long-term unemployed in August.) These are people who, despite dozens of rejections, leave phone messages, send emails, tweak their cover letters, and toy with resume templates in Microsoft Word, all in the search for a job.

Not counted in this figure are so-called "discouraged workers," including plenty of former searchers who have remained on the unemployment sidelines for six months or more. In August of this year, 1.1 million Americans had simply stopped looking and so officially dropped out of the workforce. They are essentially not considered worth counting when the subject of unemployment comes up. Nonetheless, that 1.1 million figure represents an increase of 352,000 since 2009. In effect, the real long-term unemployment figure now may be closer to 7.5 million Americans.

So who are these unfortunate or unlucky people? Long-term unemployment, research shows, doesn't discriminate: no age, race, ethnicity, or educational level is immune. According to federal data, however, the hardest hit when it comes to long-term unemployment are older workers -- middle aged and beyond, folks like Rick Rembold who can see retirement on the horizon but planned on another decade or more of work. Given the increasing claims of age discrimination in this recession, older Americans suffering longer bouts of joblessness may not in itself be so surprising. That education seemingly works against anyone in this older cohort is. Nearly half of the long-term unemployed who are 45 or older have "some college," a bachelor's degree, or more. By contrast, those with no education at all make up just 15% of this older category. In other words, if you're older and well educated, the outlook is truly grim.

As for the causes of long-term unemployment, there's the obvious answer: there simply aren't enough jobs. Before the Great Recession, there were 1.5 workers in the U.S. for every job slot; today, that ratio is 4.8 to one. Put another way, with normal growth instead of a recession, we’d have 10 million more jobs than we currently do. Closing that gap would require adding 300,000 jobs every month for the next five years. In August 2010, the economy shed 54,000 jobs. You do the math.

Worse yet, if you imagine five workers queued up for that single position, the longer you're unemployed, the further back you stand. Economists have found that long-term unemployment dims a worker’s prospects with each passing day. "This pattern suggests that the very-long-term unemployed will be the last group to benefit from an economic recovery," Michael Reich, an economist at the University of California-Berkeley, told Congress in June.

But when you consider the plight of the long-term unemployed, don’t just think jobs. The 2008 recession was a housing-driven crisis, thanks to the rise of subprime mortgage lending, government policy, and greed. As a result, 11 million borrowers -- or nearly 23% of all homeowners with a mortgage -- now find themselves "underwater": that is, owing more on their mortgages than their houses are worth. Negative equity at those levels creates what Harvard economist Lawrence Katz calls a "geographic lock-in effect," stifling jobs recovery. Typically, American workers are a mobile bunch, willing to bounce from one city to the next for new jobs, but not when homeowners are staying put to avoid selling their underwater houses for a loss.

Another factor in the explosion of long-term unemployment lies in a shift away from temporary layoffs. In the recessions of 1975, 1980, and 1982, 20% of unemployed workers had been only temporarily laid off; as of August of this year, just 10% had. In their heyday, automakers and steel companies laid off workers as demand dipped, but backstopped by powerful labor unions, those workers were regularly recalled as demand and production revved up again. No more. Now, if you’re long-term unemployed, you’re undoubtedly trying to find a new job with a new employer, a more daunting process. Add it all up and you have Rick Rembold.

"Feast or Famine" in RV Land

Rembold calls himself a Democrat -- "not the peace sign, hit-the-bong type," he hastens to add, but "a tear-off-your-head-and-shit-down-your-neck Democrat." He can't stomach Glenn Beck or talk radio here in the Land of Limbaugh, and with equal zeal he watches MSNBC's Rachel Maddow and FX's Sons of Anarchy, a gritty, violent series about outlaw motorcycle gangs.

It was a Friday morning, and we were in Rembold's kitchen, drinking coffee and talking politics. He wore jeans and a black polo shirt, and paced as he spoke. Ideas and frustrations poured out of him like water from an open spigot; the man had a lot on his mind. The night before, I had asked him to show me around the area, especially the economic engine that sustains it: the recreational vehicle, or RV, industry. Once the coffee ran dry, we piled into my car and set off.

Cities such as Elkhart and Middlebury and Mishawaka and Wakarusa are the cradle of the RV industry. Headquartered here are major manufacturers like Jayco and Forest River. At its peak, northern Indiana churned out three-quarters of all RVs on the road -- motor homes and fifth-wheels, pop-up campers, travel trailers, and toy haulers. Producing them was grueling work, but you could fashion a middle-class lifestyle out of what it paid. "Workin' in the RV industry, they'll work you to death," Rembold said. "People would literally be sprintin' from one place to the next with power tools in their hands."

Then came "the Panic of '08," as one RV salesman put it to me. Teetering banks choked off consumer lending as credit markets froze. The downturn pummeled the industry. In 2009, sales of fifth-wheels, a smaller trailer you hitch to a truck or SUV, plummeted by 30%, travel trailers by 23.5%, campers by 28%. Manufacturers like Jayco, Monaco Coach, and others collectively laid off thousands, and the region's unemployment rate spiked by more than 10% in a year. When a newly elected Barack Obama arrived in Elkhart in February 2009 to tout his stimulus plan, the jobless rate was 15.3%; a month later, it reached 18.9%, more than twice the national rate. At one point, Elkhart County, with a population of 200,000, was shedding 95 jobs a day.

In the 1990s and first years of the new century, RV manufacturers couldn't hire enough workers. They ran ads in regional and national newspapers looking for more bodies. "We couldn't even get people to drive over from South Bend to work in Elkhart," a sales rep for Jayco told me.

By the time I arrived, though, the industry had left its feast years, hit the famine ones fast, and was showing the first signs of crawling back. Driving through Middlebury, a town of 3,200 east of Elkhart, I saw a few carrier trucks hustling in or out of plants, some full employee parking lots, and rows of gleaming new RVs dotting the green landscape like herds of boxy cattle.

Whether the industry will ever fully recover, however, is unclear. The manufacturers I spoke to were optimistic about future sales. "Despite the logic of what's going on in the economy, the buyers are still there," said Jerimiah Borkowski, a spokesman for Thor Motor Coach. But a 2009 analysis by Indiana University's Business Research Center projected that by 2013 annual RV shipments still won't have returned to their 2006 peak. "I personally don't think it'll ever rebound to pre-2008 levels," says Bill Dawson, vice president and general manager of Clean Seal Inc., a South Bend-based supplier of parts to the RV industry. Dawson points to industry contractions -- Thor's $209 million acquisition of Heartland RV, the Damon Motor Coach-Four Winds merger, as well as numerous factory closings -- and says, "Fewer players mean fewer units and fewer people making them."

Rembold knows the RV industry's ebb and flow all too well. He's lived in its shadow for the majority of his working career, including 18 years with Architectural Wood Company (AWC), an Elkhart-based manufacturer of wood products used to outfit RVs and conversion vans. He's made handcrafted tables, faceplates, valences, and overhead consoles, usually from oak or maple, finishing them with the gloss that gives Kimball grand pianos and Fender guitars their shine.

But by the 1990s and 2000s, his line of work looked to be headed the way of the 8-track tape. The conversion van industry was sinking. RV manufacturers had begun replacing wood with cheaper plastics and vinyl-wrapped plywood. (At an RV show we visited, Rembold could step inside a vehicle and determine by smell alone if the manufacturer used the real thing or not.) Orders plummeted at AWC. By early 2006, the company's financial health was so dire that the owner, a good friend of Rembold's, let him go. A few years later, the company itself folded.

Rembold then caromed from one job to the next: selling used cars and motorcycles, driving a semi truck, working behind six inches of bulletproof glass as a teller at Check$mart. He briefly ended up back in RVs, supervising employees sewing tents for campers, and then, last winter, temped at a struggling wood shop. That was his last job.  After the holidays, he was never called back.

Like millions in his predicament, Rembold knows his chances of finding a decent-paying job doing what he loves decrease with each temporary, non-manufacturing job he’s taken. What doesn't fit on a resume -- and so frustrates him most -- is his adaptability, if only he could convince an employer of it.  College degree or not, certification or not, he insists, he's always adapted to new settings. "Could I do construction? Hell, yeah, I could do it. I could measure in metric, in standard; I'd correct cutting mistakes, do it all. I just can't get anyone to let me do it."

As we talked, the RV plants gave way to lush farmland and we found ourselves driving through Amish country, sharing quiet two-lane roads with horse-drawn buggies. By early afternoon we rolled into the town of Topeka (pop. 1,200), past the Seed and Stove store and the Do-It Better hardware shop. Then Rembold's cell phone buzzed, a rare break in the conversation. It was his daughter, Angie, 28, the youngest of his three kids.

He listened, then yanked off his sunglasses. "You what?"

Angie managed the Check$mart in Goshen, the check-cashing outfit Rembold once worked for, and she was good at her job, Rembold had told me earlier. Now she was agitated, talking so loudly that I caught bits and pieces of the conversation over the din of the radio. Something about a bonus owed that she didn't receive. When Rembold abruptly hung up, he muttered, "Jesus H. Christ."

Later, over lunch at what looked to be Topeka's lone diner, he explained that Angie planned to quit her job over the unpaid bonus. After a full morning telling me about the nightmare of being out of work, he looked stunned. "You'd think she'd have learned from my situation. I don't think she realizes how her life is going to change."

The Trauma of Long-Term Unemployment

It’s hard, even for the long-term unemployed, to grasp just how drastically life can change without work. Studying past recessions to discover just what does happen, researchers often focus on the collapse of the steel industry in Pennsylvania in the late 1970s that would turn a once-thriving region into a landscape of shuttered factories and ghost towns. Eighty thousand people worked in steel in the 1940s; by 1987, 4,000 remained.

In one study, male Pennsylvania workers with high seniority experienced a 50% to 100% spike in mortality rate in the first year after job loss. The life expectancies of those laid off after age 40 decreased by one to one-and-a-half years. In the long run, these laid-off Pennsylvanians suffered a 15% to 20% reduction in earnings. Those hardest hit in terms of lifelong earnings, economists found, were not low-skilled laborers or highly skilled wealthy elites, but workers who had managed to forge a middle-class lifestyle.

Suicide rates also increase, researchers have found, when unemployment rises. (In Elkhart County, where Rembold lives, suicides exceeded the annual average by 40% last year.)

The 1980s recession in Pennsylvania was no outlier either, economic researchers have discovered, and the effects of long-term unemployment spread well beyond directly afflicted workers. In the short run, for instance, a child whose parent loses his or her job is 15% more likely to repeat a grade year in school, according to University of California-Davis economists Ann Huff Stevens and Jessamyn Schaller. This is especially true for children with less-educated parents.

Over their lifetime, the children of jobless fathers earn, on average, 9% less each year than similar children without laid-off dads, and are more likely to receive unemployment insurance and social welfare support at some point in their lifetimes. New research also suggests that the children of laid-off parents may have lower homeownership rates and higher divorce rates.

"I'm Not Competing With Some College Kid"

In the early evening, Rembold and I holed up in his office, a small room off the main hallway with a computer, two desks, and countless framed photos. Rembold clicked open a folder on his Internet browser labeled "Careers" and walked me through his daily online job-hunting routine. He checks half-a-dozen job boards regularly, though openings tend to pay only in the $8- to $10-an-hour range. He rejects most of those out of hand.

"Wouldn’t that be better than no job at all?" I ask.

Rembold gnaws on the question. "I can't afford my home at $8 or $10 an hour," he finally replies. Right now, he’s getting by on unemployment checks, a small inheritance from his mother that's rapidly dwindling, and loans from family members. Still, he'd rather keep trolling the job boards in the hopes of finding something offering a living wage. "I've got a mortgage to pay, for Christ's sake," he told me. The few openings he sees with good pay, however, involve odd hours, dusk-to-dawn shifts that would mean he'd almost never see Terri, whose schedule at an aluminum company in Elkhart is early morning to mid-afternoon.

And then, under the dollar signs lurks something else: self-respect. Unlike his father, Rembold never went to college, and doesn't consider himself too good for service-sector jobs.  But he visibly agonizes over the fact that, as a 56-year-old man with decades of experience, he's competing with people half his age for low-wage jobs. After all, as a machine operator fresh out of high school at White Farm Equipment, he earned $8.64 an hour. That was 1976. Adjusted for inflation, that's equivalent to $42.42 today. No wonder the man's reluctant to flip burgers or trim hedges for $9 an hour.

His friends have suggested selling his condo and moving somewhere smaller and cheaper, maybe renting for a while, but that's the last thing he wants. It’s that self-respect again. He's already sold off one motorcycle and various musical instruments, and he and Terri now skip the big vacations that were part of their past life. Which isn't to say that Rembold currently lives like a monk.  He still has the big screen in the basement, the DVD collection, the video-game systems for when the grandkids visit, a life's worth of possessions from decades of earning good money. "Why should you have to give up your home?" he wanted to know. "It's so unbelievable to me that I don't even want to think about it. I'm in denial."

A Lost Generation?

What's to be done for people like Rick Rembold? As in most economic debates, the answer to this question divides economists and policymakers. On the left are those who lobby for more aid to jobless Americans, including another extension of unemployment insurance beyond the present cut-off date of 99 weeks. (In normal times, laid-off workers once got 26 weeks of unemployment insurance.) Some Democrats in the Senate had hoped to extend unemployment insurance by another 20 weeks up to 119 weeks, an effort spearheaded by Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) that ultimately failed last week in the face of Republican opposition. That same camp supports a one-time “reemployment bonus,” a lump-sum payment that unemployed workers would receive to reward them for finding a new job and leaving the unemployment rolls.

Another idea gaining traction in policy circles is "wage insurance," in which the government would supplement the income of workers rehired at lower-paying jobs. Consider Rembold who, in his prime, earned $25 an hour. He says can't live on a $10-an-hour job, but if that were to become $12 or $15 an hour, thanks to a government subsidy, he'd be much more interested.

More conservative voices believe cutting jobless benefits -- a bitter pill, to be sure -- will force people back into the workforce. The Rembolds of America will then scramble harder and take those low-wage jobs faster. Of course, those who can't find work at all will be left adrift with no safety net. What's more, the cost of such cuts to taxpayers might actually prove higher, economists note, because without those benefits the jobless might instead apply for disability or other support programs and give up the search altogether.

Ideally, of course, employers and governments should avoid widespread layoffs altogether. One option sometimes suggested would be a "work-share" program. Imagine a factory of 100 workers with a boss looking to cut costs. Instead of laying off 25 workers, he would reduce all of his workers' hours by 25%. The government would then step in to fill the earnings gap. Think of it as the equivalent of collecting unemployment before you're laid off, a preventive measure to avoid the trauma -- to income, health, family -- of job loss.

None of this is likely to happen soon which is little consolation for the long-term unemployed like Rembold. Unfortunately, there are few proven solutions to their situation. Job retraining programs for unemployed workers are all the rage these days, touted by Education Secretary Arne Duncan, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, and President Obama as a transition to a new line of work. But a 2008 study commissioned by the Labor Department found minimal-to-no gains for 160,000 workers who went through retraining, concluding that the "ultimate gains from participation are small or nonexistent."

In the end, facing an economy that may never again generate in such quantity the sorts of "middle class" jobs Rembold was used to, what we may be seeing is the creation of a graying class of permanently unemployed (or underemployed) Americans, a genuine lost generation who will never recover from the recession of 2008. As Mike Konczal and Arjun Jayadev of the Roosevelt Institute, a left-leaning think tank, recently wrote, unemployed workers today are more likely to abandon the workforce than find work -- something never before seen in four decades' worth of labor data. "These workers need targeted intervention," they concluded, "before they become completely lost to the normal labor market."

"All I Need Is One Chance"

I first noticed Rembold’s tic on Sunday, my last day in Indiana. Out of nowhere, without provocation, he'd suddenly say things like "Man, I just need a job," or "All I need is a chance," or "I wanna work, make stuff with my hands." He’d been filling the lulls in our conversations with these little outbursts, symptoms, I assumed, of the worry and anxiety that never left his side. Which is why I called a few weeks after my visit, hoping for good news.

And there was, after a fashion.  Angie, his daughter, had ended up sticking with Check$mart, much to his relief. But for him, the leads were sparser than ever. "There's this neighbor here,” he said, “her son's a shift manager at the Walmart, so he's gonna see what they might have." He also mentioned an electronic wire and cable manufacturer with openings in Bremen, a half-hour south. He'd recently applied there for the third time this year. This time around, he went on, he planned to march in and demand the interview he’d never gotten. "I mean, what's it take to get in to see someone there?" he asked me.

Rembold doesn't have time on his side. Unlike the now-famous "99ers," the folks who received nearly two years' worth of unemployment benefits, his will expire sometime this winter, short of the 99-week mark. He's not sure what he'll do by then if he can't find work. Maybe take one of those $8-an-hour jobs after all. For now, though, he's just checking the job boards each morning, shipping off resumes and cover letters, firing up the Suzuki, chasing leads.

I asked if he still had any hope left that something good would happen. "I don't know," he replied. " 'Course if ya don't go, ya don't know."

Andy Kroll is a reporter in the D.C. bureau of Mother Jones magazine and an associate editor at TomDispatch. He's always looking for new stories in this economic downturn, and you can email him at akroll (at) motherjones (dot) com. To catch him discussing the jobs crisis on Timothy MacBain's latest TomCast audio interview, click here or, to download it to your iPod, here.  This story was written with research support from the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute.

 
 
 
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10:52 PM on 10/07/2010
There has to be some financial incentive made to corporations for hiring older long term unemployed citizens! Because they aren't going to do it otherwise!
12:54 AM on 10/07/2010
It's important to know that the DOL in most states will take you off the books after you've exhausted all the extended tiers. I've been out of work for 3 years and when all the extensions ran out some time ago, I couldn't verify weekly. I can't tell you how many people I had to explain this to before somebody "got it" and put me back on the system. The numbers provided to us by the DOL and our politicians are grossly inaccurate because of this.
Also, it does not reflect people who were unemployed, got a job and then were let go or were furloughed or the company closed. Because they would not be eligible for benefits if they had been somewhere a short time or if a company did not pay into the unemployment insurance coffers.
Please - if you're unemployed and have run out of your benefits, insist - no, demand! - that your info stays on the system.
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09:35 PM on 10/06/2010
I lost my edge to this story when he stated he would not work odd hours because he then would be unable to see his girlfriend who also worked odd hours. At this time I believe he should take what he can get.
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Bob Gort
07:45 PM on 10/06/2010
Rembold represents a lost older generation. But jobs are not coming back in America. They are gone and the population continues to skyrocket. We are also going to have lost generations of young people, with college degrees and enormous college debts who can't find work. It is winner take all in our society now, which means game-over for most people.
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04:51 PM on 10/06/2010
I'm 28, college degree, graduate degree, and haven't worked much since I got out of law school. I'm genuinely terrified of what will happen to me when I run out of unemployment. Terrified. Anyone who supports cutting unemployment entirely is evil and has no compassion for their fellow man.

"Are there no prisons? No poorhouses?" Yes, all too many, today ...
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12:57 AM on 10/07/2010
Count your blessings. It's been two years since this collapse began and millions of small business owners who've been ruined have yet to see a penny of compensation to help with their survival. We don't get unemployment unless we own less than 50% of the business and had ourselves on payroll. We're on our own and failing rapidly. At least you're getting something . . .
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04:15 PM on 10/06/2010
Next month all unemployment benefit extensions will end. The Dems will do nothing for the desperate and needy because of the "deficit," they will argue, caving to the right wing.

Then tax cuts for the wealthy will be granted. So it goes in modern America.
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08:05 PM on 10/06/2010
I think you mean the Republicans may continue to prevent the Democrats to do enough about the unemployed using the canard that the deficit is the reason. The Dems have been trying to advocate for the citizenry, but the Repub dedication to furthering the interests of their corporate masters has been effective in filibustering most progress out of existence. This is important to clarify because your post makes it seem like a Democratic majority congress is the problem, when really the problem is that a slim majority is not enough to stop a filibuster.
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08:06 PM on 10/06/2010
I think you mean the Republicans may continue to prevent the Democrats from doing enough about the unemployed, using the canard that the deficit is the reason. The Dems have been trying to advocate for the citizenry, but the Repub dedication to furthering the interests of their corporate masters has been effective in filibustering most progress out of existence. This is important to clarify because your post makes it seem like a Democratic majority congress is the problem, when really the problem is that a slim majority is not enough to stop a filibuster.
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09:30 AM on 10/07/2010
Ben Nelson, a Democrat, was against extending unemployment benefits.

Obama ended the COBRA subsidies forcing families off affordable health care. He didn't care enough to even criticize what was going down.
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10:00 AM on 10/06/2010
Our high unemployment is caused by too many workers, not too few jobs.

58.9% of the US population have jobs now, more than at any time before 1983.
But women are now 50% of the work force, compared to 40% in 1978, 31% in 1953.

If the same percent of women worked now as in 1978, there would be NO unemployment. I believe women should of course have careers if they want to. But most mothers (including mine) work because they have to, in my case so we could own a home.

Median wages declined, mothers went to work to make ends meet, the extra supply of labor drove wages down further. The rich profited from more and cheaper workers, consuming more corporate products.

We DON'T need more jobs, we need higher wages so more mothers or fathers can afford to be parents. And/or lower expenses, like national health care. A less regressive system.

http://www.dol.gov/oasam/programs/history/herman/reports/futurework/report/chapter3/chart3-1_text.htm
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09:54 AM on 10/06/2010
Just an observation. I feel as though this economic downturn has taken the lid off of pandora's box. The aging workforce no matter how skilled or educated was seen as a liability in some corporations eyes. They secretly wondered do we have enough revenue to maintain the defined-benefit pension plans. No company except maybe a software or bank had or has the profit margin of old tobacco companies and the car industry. The tobacco industry pay billions a year in settlement money and still continues to make large profits. These companies now have an out in offering early retirement or severance packages that are at least 35% to 45% less that fully vested retirement. This to me is the changing of the guard so to speak. The car industry pushed their defined benefit package into a little known federal gov't program so the burden is off of them except for Ford Motor Company. That why I ask the forum if you have to buy a car please take a look at a Ford. American owned, american made, american sustained. Just an observation.
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09:46 AM on 10/06/2010
This is not going to be solved by pulling a lever and voting R or D because nothing will change until the politicians do something about the exproting of American jobs going overseas to the cheapest bidder, at least their are bills in the congress and senate to deal with the issue. In order to get factories back from China and India we either need them to invest back into America or level the trade deficits to even the trade between nations! Talking about it is not going to get it done. Time for every politician in Washington to put the nation first and your petty differences last to help every American get back to work. I can only immagine where this nation would be if we let the obstruction win in Washington at the time of adversity this is neither the time or place to accept defeat for the American people!
12:56 AM on 10/07/2010
Good post!
07:45 AM on 10/06/2010
I'm 51 and have been unemployed for 20 months. I have a college degree and was a Senior Manufacturing Manager. I have lost everything. My home, my car, my marriage and my self-respect. I have started to entertain the thought that I may never work again. I am trying to hang on to an ounce of hope. I just don't know what to do. I have applied for jobs at all pay levels. People say things are getting better,I just don't see it....
07:21 AM on 10/06/2010
There was a job fair in Detroit about a month ago. Most of the businesses that were there were Trade Schools trying to sell courses to older people.50.000 attended.And what does the democrats say, just like the repubs say? more handouts to corporate America.the old trickle down crap."If we save them money they'll hire people, we hope"CORPORATE WELFARE!!!. the New York times said that big business is sitting on a cash hoad of because of the feds near zero interest rate and the increase of profits. the 1.6 trillion is not being used to hire more people, it's being used for speculation, merging, and buying out their competitors. And with the increase in human suffering and social devastation and the obscene enrichment brought about by the above, what we are seeing is the world being truned into one big pool of low wage labor for big business to draw from. welcome to capitalism folks.
07:05 AM on 10/06/2010
When I was a child, I will always remember my father saying "when you get older, you learn a skill, get a trade and you'll be ok". Never in his wildest years would he have thought that having a degree/degrees,having alot of experience would be a hindrance. When one is told "you are over qualified, that is the code word for "you deserve a good salary". It was just announced that second-quarter after tax profits for big business were $1.208 trillion. for standard & poor's [the name fits] it rose $1.89 billion.This means with unemployment, counting the people that left the rolls, and the under employed, over 24 million, big business is getting rich off our growing poverty and misery.And with more layoffs coming down the pike, that means more profits.And to make matters worse, you have companies that are making a profit that are use "the economy" as an excuse to get rid of people. And they are people that gave 20, 25 to 30 years of their life to one of these parasites. Now it's 2,3 4 more years till retirement, and they are thrown to the curb so the parasite doesn't have to pay his retirement. they are the perminately unemployed. who will hire them at 56,57,58 years old. no one.no pension and too young for social insecurity.big business is sociopathic, they don't care how many lives, neighborhoods, communies and cities are ruined, it's all about the profit.
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04:15 AM on 10/06/2010
If we don't stop this massive expansion of government and the huge and unprecedented deficits the democrats are racking up...we are sure to see America take a long dive.

Lets be honest here, now. Two years ago everyone on this board was screaming about unsustainable republican deficits. Deficits Nancy and Reid were shoving through congress I might add. But now, we see these very same politicians acting even MORE irresponsibly with even larger spending! Where is the OUTRAGE?

The majority of DEMOCRATS now identify the deficits as HUGE PROBLEMS. This surprises turn out when you are the party of huge deficits and can't even acknowledge it. Obama made a tactical error in not confronting the deficits before the elections. The deficits he created I might add.
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capitaldysfunction
White male never voted Republican
03:28 AM on 10/07/2010
You ask where "is the OUTRAGE?" The OUTRAGE is obviously you. In a thread full of thoughtful people hurting and searching for answers to America's problem, the problem of third world America, we have to stop and listen to your OUTRAGE. Some solution you and others like you have got. The problem is Obama's deficits? And your solutions: political gridlock, and more debt and more deficits. Why don't you stop expressing your nonsolution for a moment and read and think instead of sounding off with your Fox News/Rush Limbaugh OUTRAGE? The intelligence of this discussion has to be interrupted with your OUTRAGE? Go scream at a mirror.
CorpTreason
Fascism... it's what's for breakfast
12:32 AM on 10/06/2010
I wish the person writing this article had suggested entrepreneurial efforts to this man. He could take the $10/hr job and also make things with his hands he can sell on Etsy.com and other venues. This is no scam ad. I literally make so much per hour working online from home that if I told you how much it is very likely you would think I'm lying. I was laid off 1.5 yrs ago, and now employ a number of contractors who help me be able to say "yes" to every opportunity whether I know how to do the work myself or not. When my employer left the state I couldn't get unemployment at all (I was a contractor). I had only 4 months savings to live on until I could make more money for myself. No spouse. No retirement savings. That's it. I talked to a couple of my former clients for the company and defied my contract to enter a direct relationship with them (those non-compete agreements never hold up in court). That brought me a couple more months' living expenses. Meanwhile I created a website myself -- signed up with Lynda.com for a month of free online courses, then signed up for 2 classes at a local community college for $60 then used the student ID to buy a computer and web/business software at student discounts. Now I'm doing well with no boss, just long hours. Will never take another job.
10:32 AM on 10/06/2010
No offense, but I do not believe you. To suggest that a full time job can be replaced by selling hand made baskets or something similiar on ebay, in a recession, is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Either you are mentally unstable or you are using this blog to push a scam disguised as a readers comment. There are more unsuccessful web businesses today than there are people out of work. The only way to provide individual security is to have a full time job providing a needed service. If you are lucky that could come from being a doctor or a lawyer. If you are unlucky that will come from being a housecleaner of a landscape laborer. Entrepreneurial approaches are as bankrupt as wall street before the bailout. Keep looking for a job and stop dreaming on line.
CorpTreason
Fascism... it's what's for breakfast
07:51 PM on 10/06/2010
I'm not saying I'm making things with my hands. I do a totally different type of work. I work online, not with my hands, unless you consider typing to be in that category, which I don't. The man profiled in this story said he wanted to be making things with his hands. My point is that he can do that without waiting for someone to give him a job first. My point stands. But yes, I can see how it could come off as unbelievable. Which is why I'm not even bothering to state what I make. Three years ago I wouldn't have believed it myself. Then I answered a Craiglist ad for a temp job paying $19/hr and within a couple years I translated the skills I learned on that job into the business I run now. I don't care that you believe me for my benefit, since my benefit is sailing forward with only the belief of my clients as fuel. I care though so that others will know that they are not slaves to corporate masters unless they see their potential in such limited ways. I wouldn't buy into a ready made "pay X and get a turn-key, sure thing business making you Y money from home in your spare time" offer either. But that isn't what I'm suggesting. I'm saying, be unique. Do what you love and find a way to monetize it. Then do.
06:07 PM on 10/06/2010
Americans have to realize that in the future, no one will give them a job. No one. You just have to go out and make a job for yourself. Americans are up to the task. We have done this before. Do you think pioneers of the old west went to a job bank or agency to find work. No. They did it themselves. Everyone in America can do this again. This is not a communist country where they prevent you from doing what you want. In America you are free. Freedom means you have to do it yourself!
CorpTreason
Fascism... it's what's for breakfast
07:52 PM on 10/06/2010
Amen.
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04:46 AM on 10/07/2010
"Freedom means you have to do it yourself!"

Nice read. I never really knew what freedom meant until you laid it out for me so succinctly. Now do me a favor and tell me how the current structure of society has any relation to the old west. Tell me where there's a possible gold mine selling shares for a reasonable price. Tell me where there's a town being built out of mud and promise. Tell me where I should move to, now that New York, the hub of perpetual promise, has proven to be a dead end. You clearly have the wisdom I'm seeking. Where should I go to make myself?
12:08 AM on 10/06/2010
Brosemers First Law of Economics....Things are the way they are so that those who have can have more.