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My Video Chat with John Conyers


As chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers has become the point man on three of the most contentious upcoming political battles: the fight over Bush's desire to make permanent the temporary FISA law rushed through Congress this summer; Congressional attempts to restore habeas corpus rights to military detainees; and the ongoing investigation into the politicization of the Justice Department -- especially the expected showdown over the White House's refusal to provide relevant documents, and possible contempt citations against Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten.

Given all this, I thought Conyers would be the perfect person to inaugurate our new Video Chat feature.

Connected by ooVoo's software, I sat down at my desk in Los Angeles, facing my latptop. Conyers sat down at his desk in his Congressional office in Washington -- and off we went. Before we launched into matters of state, the Congressman surprised me by noticing that I had a different (though, trust me, not that different) hairstyle than when we'd last seen each other in Washington in July, and he admonished me to stop cutting my hair. "I'm an old-fashioned guy; I like long hair," he said. Harriet Miers, take note.

Before you dive into the videos below, a little background:

Conyers' top priority is the ongoing investigation into the US Attorneys scandal, which has become emblematic of an imperial White House which considers congressional oversight and constitutionally mandated checks and balances even more quaint than the Geneva Conventions.

The White House's efforts to avoid accountability have been taken to darkly comedic heights. In refusing Conyers' latest request for documents in the Justice Dept probe, Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Brian Benczkowski asserted: "We want to avoid any perception that the conduct of our criminal investigations and prosecutions is subject to political influence." And Phil Spector decided not to testify in his trial to avoid any perception that he might have shot Lana Clarkson in the face. Benczkowski clearly has no shame -- but he does have a future as a writer on The Daily Show if he wants one.

Before Congress recessed for the summer, Democratic leaders promised aggressive action on contempt citations for Bolten and Miers but, since their return, have slowed the process considerably -- running the risk of looking like they are all bark and no bite. Again. I asked Conyers about this, and also about whether Karl Rove and Alberto Gonzales scurrying off to Texas -- and the lecture circuit -- will take the wind out of the sails of the investigation. As you'll see, Conyers was crystal clear that it won't.

On the FISA front, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell testified in front of Conyers' committee last week about the White House push to make permanent the new FISA warrantless wiretapping law. At the hearing, Conyers aggressively challenged McConnell on his late-to-the-dance support of the legislation, charging that the Director had succumbed to pressure from the White House when he reneged on compromise language that had been agreed on and instead pushed for the more intrusive bill that eventually passed.

McConnell, like many in the administration, has been very selective about what he considers privileged information -- and about what disinformation he is willing to put forth. McConnell has been roundly criticized in the blogosphere for having falsely claimed that the new FISA law was instrumental in the thwarting of a major terrorist plot in Germany. Only after Democrats and intelligence officials strenuously complained did he retract his bogus statement -- calling into serious question his future credibility.

Conyers also intends to hold future hearings as part of an ongoing attempt to restore habeas corpus rights to military detainees. Last week, a GOP filibuster quashed bipartisan legislation that would have restored those rights. A majority of the Senate voted to bring the measure to a final vote, 56-43, but the tally was four votes short of the 60 needed to end the filibuster.

Conyers is determined to rectify the Military Commissions Act of 2006, according to which habeas corpus rights have been suspended not just for a few hundred military detainees in Guantanamo, but also for an estimated 12 million permanent residents in the US -- people who work here, pay taxes, etc. but who, under the current law, can be detained without limits and without the ability to challenge their detention in court.

With the vital battle for hearts and minds around the world a key to our future safety, reversing the undermining of the principles our nation was founded on seems like a no-brainer. But, apparently, 43 members of the Senate don't see it that way. Conyers hopes his House hearings on the topic will help change the dynamic of the national discussion.

Enough set-up. Roll tape...






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08:34 PM on 09/30/2007
I like the way you laughed at the end of Conyers' dissertation concerning Carl Rove.
10:57 PM on 09/29/2007
Anybody who thinks of the Democratic Party as their salvation from this Bush Junior White House, is making a serious mistake. Controlling both houses of Congress, and within a week of the Sunday morning high sounding George Stephonopoulos hosted ABC News hosted Dem Debate, Dimmycrats in Congress "rolled over" and endorsed as Law per Bush/Cheney the PERMANENT loss of liberties, constitution and bill of rights by making the so-called "Patriot Act" our Country's new constitution. The little Bush man from Texas, and the growling Veep from Wyoming, have succeeded in destroying America as we knew it, and the National Democrats in Congress, were their accomplices. We need not one, but two, new, American political parties. We should junk both of the current ones: Republican, and Democrat. Each is worthless.
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just looking for answers
09:47 PM on 09/29/2007
I really enjoy the exchange of ideas and free expression on this post.

In a hypothetical situation this is my take on DC:

If a person gets into a Senate or House seat, after a short period of introduction, the person is initiated. Sorta like a secret society. If you are willing to sell your soul, you will have friends in high places, money after you leave office, and immunity whether you commit an actual crime or just don't use moral judgement. However, if you stand up and question any action, your friends disappear, money evaporates and you have less influence. If you really demand accountability, then things get really nasty.

Of course this being only my imaginary senario of Washington politics, I could be wrong.
08:19 AM on 09/29/2007
First and formost your hair looked great Arianna and you did a great job on this interview.

My new wife and I looked at these videos carefully and it is showing what our US Government is doing and not doing and I have my own reasons to want to know who these people are that are locked up and Americans want to know who they are and what did they do.

This is unbelievable that our President is breaking these laws.

People are leaving because they know that impeachment and charges are coming.

Thanks as always I enjoy and learn from the best and thats the Huffington Post.
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07:09 AM on 09/29/2007
Conyers and his buddies have give lip service only to his investigations thats all they do is investigate and talk nothing ever comes of it, how many years have they been investigating bush's doings? all any of them do is talk and we keep on re-electing them.
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Ozy
06:21 AM on 09/29/2007
What a disappointment to say the least!

I respected Conyers up to when the party leadership told him to get his ass in lockstep and take impeachment off the table.COWARD!DISGRACE! You don't like my post? tough shit! Eat some truth and choke on it!

SHAME ON ALL OF YOU WHO ARE NOT DOING THE WILL OF THE BASE!!!
Cindy Sheehan is going to kick Pelosi's ass next year!I have heard people all over the country are going to send a message to the democratic leadership that they better never forget! LISTEN UP YOU BUNCH OF INSIDER JERKS OR YOU WILL BE SENT TO THE UNEMPLOYMENT OFFICE!!!!
09:42 PM on 09/29/2007
I guess I must say I am a "ditto head" for this post!!! and one who has never flip flopped...
we are out here Nancy (hey Nancy what about those arrows you said you were sharpening? I say pull them from your quiver NOW)
03:36 AM on 09/29/2007
There is an empty cell under the Capitol for those in "Contempt of Congress.

It should be full.
06:38 PM on 09/28/2007
Diebold will save the day.

Never fear.

Either that or Hillary will sell out to the oligarchs
05:20 PM on 09/28/2007
Conyers, Pelosi, Reid - what a disappointment!
They take impeachment off the table and remain seated to hand over our civil rights to Bush while funding the never-ending occupation of Iraq, their eyes steadfastly fixed on 2008.
Their moto could be "Go for Iran," the more the merrier.
05:02 PM on 09/28/2007
"There are no good lawyers. There may be lady wrestlers and Catholic universities. There may be military intelligence. But a good lawyer is a contradiction in terms."
-Kinky Friedman(1993), Greenwich Killing Time. New York (Wings Books
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Balzac
02:10 PM on 09/28/2007
In spite of the low-resolution camera and the lighting, Arianna looks great as usual.
01:47 PM on 09/28/2007
Arianna, I love ya!!! But I am very hard of hearing and the lip sync wasn't good in the videos and, even though I had my hearing aids in and properly adjusted, I could not understand the conversations. I hope there is a transcript of it as I like your no-nonsense approach to interviews. You and Charlie Rose are the two best in our current crop of journalists, in my humble opinion. (And you can wear your hair any length you want with me, I look beyond the superficial to substance.)
Scott Ritter and Daniel Ellsberg have both hit other major topics in recent days: Getting honesty out of Congress in their voting and the Constitutional interpretation of our Laws as Congress and the (Faux)President interpret them. They also take similar approaches on stopping the Bush move to bomb Iran.
Everyone should know that the Cato Institute sells excellent, good quality,booklets containing The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution for about $5.00 ~~~ I only wish they would include The Articles of Confederation in it with the next printing.
It would also be nice if you were to publish copies of all three of our Sacred Documents, as I call them, so those of us who read your columns can both refer to them conveniently in our benchmarks/favorites or email them to any that we think need a refresher course in how to be an American Citizen and a Patriot.
I would start by mailing one to every Congressman and Presidential Candidate with a Q&A to follow !!!
03:58 AM on 09/29/2007
Yup. Painful to watch and hear.
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gernger
01:29 PM on 09/28/2007
I have always thought that no matter who gets elected, no matter what they did, our country and our democracy, and our republic would remain strong as long as the constitution remains strong and intact.When the new F.I.S.A, law passed, Nancy Pelosi was quoted in the N.Y.Times saying "This does violence to the constitution." This means that it should not be renewed under any circumstances,no matter the political climate or the scare tactics of the Republicans. A bill that respects the constitution should passed. After all, the president and congress took the same oath which has one provision; To protect and defend the constittion against all enemies foreign and domestic. Since Democrats have the majority, they can kill this bill. Another thing that should be truly scary to all Americans is the taking away of Habeous Corpus from twelve milion people. We all have seen movies or read books or learned from many sources what went on in such places such as the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, or Saddam's Iraq, where people could be arrested for no reason, imprisoned, and/or tortured, then have a show trial and found guilty of trumped up charges. Habeous Corpus protects us from that. I think the number one thing the next Presdent and Congress has to do is to restore our consitutional rights, that the Bush administration and the Republican congress have taken away.
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clumberfeet
01:28 PM on 09/28/2007
Keith Olbermann's "Worst Person in the World" designation may also need to move from a vertical to a horizontal ranking. The word 'Worst' has no legitimate plural or superlative.
01:26 PM on 09/28/2007
Arianna,

Yes your hair style makes u look 24 and very beautiful...Just wanted to say John Conyers is a man of integrity and his investigation of the white house is needed to end the era of corrupt government.