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Posted: 10/23/11 01:00 AM ET

This week brought us the latest episode of a certain reality show in which semi-famous people compete not to get voted off by dancing around, falling down, and generally making fools of themselves. I'm talking, of course, about the GOP debate in Las Vegas, which featured an intense, Spanish-flavored tango performed by Mitt Romney and Rick Perry (Romney, with his firm grip on Perry's shoulder, was clearly doing the leading). Elsewhere, in landscapes as disparate as Zanesville, Ohio and Sirte, Libya, armed gunmen hunted down and killed their prey -- the wild beasts on the run from the Muskingum County Animal Farm generating far more sympathy than the deposed (and despised) former dictator, whose death did nothing to answer the vexing question of how to actually spell his name, leaving obit writers everywhere to choose between Gaddafi, Qaddafi, Kadafi, Gadhafi, Gadafy, and the Man with the Golden Gun.

 
 
 

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Todd G Chavey
09:30 PM on 10/23/2011
Does Mankind survive and continue keep a blind eye by making light of its failures and shortcomings.
07:02 PM on 10/23/2011
There is not real political discussion unless the subject of secretive lobbying of elected officials is addressed. Corruption of legislators bymoneyed interests is crucifying our democracy and replacing it with a progressively aristocratic system. Secret lobbying has enabled big energy companies to corrupt legislators so that Americans' health and well being is not taken into consideration. Rampant lobbying has given us short sighted policies that enrich a few and destroy the health of many. Fight for open public scrutiny of all lobbying by adding your voice at http://signon.org/sign/out-lobbyists. Let us at least have the chance to watch the lobbyists at work on public news media. Add your vote and pass it on - http://signon.org/sign/out-lobbyists
02:35 PM on 10/23/2011
Flying with the 99% for a New-New Deal!

Corporate money mavens have been trying to keep TAXES and REGULATIONS on the rich, the financial industry and corporations out of the news and the national conversation on the 'American Street' since 1980 as they got all the Golden Ponies they ever dreamed of under Reagan-Bush-Clinton-W. But no more!

The Wicked Witches of WallStreet shrivel as if splashed by water as the 99% storm the fortress and president Obama sets sail for re-election on a boat made of tax increases for the rich!

I'm flying with the 99% and I believe President Obama is too!
http://thedixiedove.com/
Gasparilla
there is no clean coal
01:58 PM on 10/23/2011
I saw a piece today on CBS Sunday Morning that was mind numbing in it's stupidity. It had to do with the fact world population hits 7 billion people. And the angle was the more the merrier: more people means more people to solve problems, and use the internet, and buy stuff. Except for the fact that a large part of the world has no access to clean water and forests all over the world are being reduced to nothing. [One of the problems in Haiti, the forests have been completely cut down and now the soil washes into the ocean with heavy rains.]

When world population was a couple billion, a lot of people could make a living off the sea and land. No more. Too many people chasing the same resource. And a lot of the people who used to live off the land now end up in these huge megacities where there is no work. One of the things almost unmentioned about the Egyptian rebellion was the fact of the massive unemployment in that country. Eighty million people living in a narrow area dependent on the Nile, when just a few decades ago it was 20 million. It is sheer insanity to say that a growing world [or US] population is a good thing.
05:49 PM on 10/23/2011
I couldn't agree more. What happened to the concern about achieving zero human population growth? How many people can the planet sustain and do they really need clean air and water? Sounds like a stupid question, but with unlimited growth being the economic goal it is one which will have to be answered. Since trees are the lungs of the planet, how's it going to breathe without them?
06:38 PM on 10/23/2011
Not for nothing, but if you're going to deride stupidity, you should learn the difference between "its" and "it's".
Gasparilla
there is no clean coal
08:52 PM on 10/23/2011
I don't think that's quite on the same level as what I was talking about, but you're entitled to your opinion.
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rnl52
Where is the next one coming from?
09:13 PM on 10/23/2011
Picky, aren't we? Sometimes the fingers move faster than the brain and visa-versa....are you the grammar police?
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12:51 PM on 10/23/2011
Ariana dear dear Ms Huffington you always have a way with words and you sure scored a coup with this HUFF POST
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drbob601
Soylent Green is People
05:32 PM on 10/23/2011
Agreed! I got a good laugh out of it.
11:56 AM on 10/23/2011
Isn't the last tango to be in S Carolina?
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
04:23 PM on 10/23/2011
probably on the Appalachian Trail
Glassman
some censorship may be worse than total censorship
10:40 AM on 10/23/2011
And here I thought it was about "Game Changers."
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writeon1
Pundit in my own mind
04:01 PM on 10/23/2011
Ha, Ha. good one that will be lost on most.
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Bob A D
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10:29 AM on 10/23/2011
Like the other reality show with dancers, they all had a night where the choreography was forgotten the same as Chynna Phillips but she got voted out. No luck yet on getting rid of some of these non-dancers.
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10:28 AM on 10/23/2011
Again a week passes without public understanding of what to do about the theft of their livelihoods and democracy. Here's an idea for them:

http://signon.org/sign/citizen-imposed-congressiona?source=c.fwd&r_by=462982
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haimchaim
10:22 AM on 10/23/2011
week in review .. not too exiting, if u don't watch the news ,, the People of Libya got what they wanted .. no more Gadhafi .. NY Yankee baseball hat was in the close up when he died of gun shot to the head .. being afraid will get u ahead
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Bailey Reynolds
Gulf War vet, Recovering Republican
09:33 AM on 10/23/2011
Arianna, I laughed out loud when I read the part about obit writers scratching their heads over how to spell the deceased dictator's name. As a former journalist, my friends & I have joked about that many times. It is probably the only case I've seen where there is zero consensus! It remains one of the great mysteries of the world.
09:20 AM on 10/23/2011
"...answer the vexing question of how to actually spell his name.."

The Answer; You gotta do it in arabic, babe. No dispute there.
09:03 AM on 10/23/2011
How about a week in review about what didn’t happen?
No “Sign this bill” demand. If it was so important wouldn’t we still be debating it? We need another stimulus now, but not the same kind Obama proposed. Plus we need huge cuts in government once the economy bounces back. Will Obama forget a stimulus if it is directed toward private sector growth as opposed to keeping the status quo in government, along with all those potential campaign workers?
And what about all those bad deals that government made? Corporate welfare is good if it is wasted on graft for campaign fundraisers and bundlers?
And where is Mr. Holder? What did he know and when did he know it? Will his scandal overshadow the Supreme Court review of Obama Care? Why was an egregiously expensive aspect of the plan removed now?
Meanwhile the debt continues to grow unabated. The deficit spending motoring ahead at an extreme level. Any discussion that without 5x great spending cuts over tax increases Obama’s tax the rich plan must hit the middle class to make any dent what so ever? Some families are already paying over 40-50% of salary in taxes when you factor state, local and real estate.
Obama left the adults in place on foreign policy. What happened to the adults on the budget and economic team? Any news on the Budget? More Deny and Blame? Even more omissions on what is really going on at those OWS camps. Juicy stories everywhere!
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Craig Bovia
Vermont, 1791, women can vote, no slavery allowed
11:18 AM on 10/23/2011
Hey ntmessage. So you're going to vote for President Obama again. Good for you!!!
12:46 PM on 10/23/2011
Yes. I also thought that leaving Iraq without legal protection for our soldiers and spinning it like it was a good thing ignoring is another juicy story. That is another great reason to really support this guy no matter what.
Tavon
Knowlege before assumptions
01:25 PM on 10/23/2011
What the h____ do you think could be done with the things the last President of the United States left him?

Republican obstruction with a pragmatic President of the United States, seem ludicrous. They couldn't demean him if they voted with a bill...that actually was put on the table with Republican points to it....so, they have to pretend there is logic, point to things that were already messed up, BIG time.

Congress that has it's leader constantly saying his first job was to get rid of the President of the United States, is the WORST poltician to have in a crisis. Crisis makes things difficult and it is the time when everyone needs to pull together....it is pretty much worldwide and the issues are enormous. It is NOT about Republican against Obama.

It is Republicans against our President of the United States.
It is about the wealthy who could contribute a lot and still have a home and food, against us, who are struggling.
It is about the wealth being held, instead of trickling down.

BTW....where is your fool proof plan? Got one?
04:11 PM on 10/23/2011
My last para identifies the lazy deny and blame game being played by those without objectivity. The obstruction charge hides disingenuously that for the last two years under Bush, a Pelosi House and the first three years under Obama, the debt has more than doubled. That money went mostly to the left agenda. Obama had all three branches and got more than what any reasonable person could ever expect. Legal or otherwise. The result? Poverty up, unemployment up, health care legislation under serious legal challenge, and an avoidable loss of our AAA bond rating a truly historic event.

Plans? Obama and Reid obstructed better ones that passed the House when Obama had no plan at all. Obama plans still cannot get full Dem support. Obstructionist? Obama said No to the performance officer; No to Simpson Bowles; No to the Gang of six; He hasn’t even passes a budget! Is that governing? Worse, at the very last minute (literally) with a done deal to save our AAA rating, Obama that purposeful tanked it with a last minute ask of hundreds of billions in new taxes. That was all Obama. Obama saying No. If Obama could get out of union like activist mode and actually learn how to negotiate we could move forward. He is governing like he has all three branches still. And we all pay for that inexperience, especially the executive thing. He has checkout on governing for the past year. Anyone crying obstructionist is simply not using empirical data.
08:40 AM on 10/23/2011
The week that was;
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~ President Obama's promises being kept ~ on the slow road to peace while war winds down
~ republican deregulation literally ends in animals running roughshod.
~ republicans ''debate'' but is anyone listening as they become more irrelevant every 9 uttered
~ the era of MichaelJackson fashion sense dictators is over
~ republicans are stil saying No to Americans and are more comfortable keeping tax breaks for the 400 richest in America instead of keeping teachers , policemen and firefighters employed.
~ stock market is up
~ postive growth and job growth even with republican obstructionism.

A fairly good week all things considered.
10:45 AM on 10/23/2011
I think your nose is growing.
Tavon
Knowlege before assumptions
01:32 PM on 10/23/2011
Remember "No new taxes"?
Remember "WMD"?
Remember going from a zero deficit to the enormous dept when B-Jr. left office?

Any demonizing of the other side, is simply hypocrisy.
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TheEnergyDD2
and this too... shall pass...
03:42 PM on 10/23/2011
Ahhh... Can I borrow your rose-colored glasses?
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rtx47
08:07 AM on 10/23/2011
I am glad to see real discussions on issues among Republican­s. Their arguments are truly about issues and facts. Their internal dialogs are not demonizing Obama, throwing labels or spouting slogans like "Democrats" ... "Socialism" ... "Communism", etc. that merely politicizes every issue.

Even Gingrich had to admit he endorsed / promoted the concept of Individual Mandate after the Heritage Foundation said "Individual mandate to buy health insurance" was a must for healthcare coverage for all Americans. Then of course, Romney borrowed Individual Mandate for Mass plan. Then Obama copied the same (Republican) logic for individual mandate for the Federal plan.

If we do not get a detailed airing of Republican positions, we are left with Newt's empty slogans like "Any of us (Republican contenders) would be better than Obama"!

Really?

Like Santorum or Bachman itching to expand or start another war in the Near-East or Mid-East would be better than the restrain shown by Obama and his goal to pull out from that part of the world?

All Republican candidates want to eliminate corporate taxes (reduce federal revenues) while increasing military spending, start new conflicts (except Ron Paul); and eliminate the 14 trillion debt with balance budget ammendments. How much more vooddoo economics can one generation take? Certainly we need more explaining!