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Posted: 06/24/2012 12:00 pm

This week, Greece fended off a looming exit from the eurozone with its election of New Democracy's Antonis Samaras -- but couldn't fend off political nemesis Germany on the soccer field, falling 4-2 in the European Cup quarterfinals. In the United States, the Obama campaign released a new video attacking Mitt Romney's record of shipping American jobs overseas -- both as governor and as a "corporate buyout specialist." Meanwhile, Bloomberg News reported that Romney had asked Florida's Republican governor to stop touting his state's good economic news because it clashed with the GOP candidate's message that Obama is destroying the economy. And there are still 135 more days until the election -- a long, hot run-up that promises to be increasingly ugly. Finally, Rodney King died this week, his plaintive "can we all get along?" plea resonating as a fitting epitaph for our times.

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haimchaim
10:44 AM on 06/25/2012
practical solutions can be found .. can we all get along . consider the change that we can make ..
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Chopin
Multiply the truth. Speak truth through power.
12:25 AM on 06/25/2012
"STOCKMARKET CRASH STARTS THISYEAR (Oct2012?), DEPRESSION COMING YEARS"
Sunday Roundup, June 24, 2012.

This important news definitely needs to be posted for the record.

[“There're more and more stocks breaking down — economic sensitive stocks + companies that cater to highend. That suggests to me the economy is likely to weaken and huge asset run is likely to come to end with significant asset deflation.”

While it's worrisome that MarcFaber’s odds of global recession are “100%”, it's hardly as alarming as scenario laid out by another economist.

Without appearing on CNBC or being known by scary nickname, RobertWiedemer did what MarcFaber couldn’t: He accurately predicted economic collapse that almost sunk UnitedStates.

In 2006, Wiedemer + team of economists foresaw the coming collapse of US housing market, equity markets, private debt, and consumer spending, and published their findings in the book "America’s Bubble Economy".

But Wiedemer’s outlook for US economy today makes “Doctor Doom” sound like Mr. Rogers.

Where Faber sees global recession, Wiedemer sees much more widespread economic destruction.

In recent interview for his newest book "Aftershock", Wiedemer says, “The data is clear, 50% unemployment, 90% stock market drop, and 100% annual inflation, starting in 2012.”]

http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/Faber-100chance-recession/2012/05/31/id/440837?PROMO_CODE=F144-1

This is detail video interview of Wiedemer:--
"Aftershock"
http://w3.newsmax.com/a/aftershockb/video47.cfm?promo_code=F144-1

You don't want to hear in a year's time: "Told you so !!!"
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JacksonAndy78
Usury Interest is Welfare to BANKSTERS
05:33 AM on 06/27/2012
Thanks - Are you buying gold?
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Chopin
Multiply the truth. Speak truth through power.
07:09 AM on 06/27/2012
Gold surely looks like the next wave of speculative fever (on the speculative side), as well as being the last store of money and wealth when all else of monetary value (paper currencies) fall apart (Euro and USDollar being prime victims). Note that many nations' central banks had been accumulating gold bullion (in metric tons) over the past 10 years (since 2001).

But as economist Wiedemer and other keen observers point out, even gold would go through cycles of speculative bubble and collapse in the commodities market (as in 1976-1980). Central banks are a different category from hedgefunds and large speculators. It's safe to anticipate that when paper currencies, stockmarkets and bondmarkets are at maximum risk (or collapsing) over next few years, gold (and precious metals) are store of value of last resort.

If I had excess money, I'd know what to do !
09:55 PM on 06/24/2012
The solution for Greece is to leave the union as soon as possible without hesitation. Why? Because leaving the union means recovering its monetary sovereignty and rebuilding the state economy. Greece must nationalize all its major industries related to national security. Greece needs endless sources of income from national companies. Pursue the BRICS principles, their economies are booming. Why? Endless sources of income! Only the state is capable of rebuilding the country back to its original currency. The free market – the bankers, are the villains responsible for the chaos. State economies are the future nonetheless.
10:26 PM on 06/24/2012
Leave the union. Monetary sovereignty. Only the state is capable of rebuilding the country back to its original currency.

The Eurozone is not a separatist movement. Monetary union (common currency) free movement of workers free one country to another to earn a living ... where did you earn your degree in international economics? To be sure, Greece has enormous problems. Europe will sort the problems using their economic model, not one imported from the U.S.
11:02 PM on 06/24/2012
At the Keynesian School of economics. As Keynes once said; (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economics ) only the state – meaning the government, is allowed to control the monetary system of any nation, NOT free market – meaning Wall Street. The proof lays at the BRICS powerful countries. The new monetary system of the world will come from powerful state controlled economies.
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jeffrey678
You don't happen to make it. You make it happen.
09:37 PM on 06/24/2012
Aryeh Neier, founder of Human Rights Watch and its executive director for 12 years, doesn’t hide his contempt for the idea of economic equality as one of the key human rights. Neier is so opposed to the idea of economic equality that he even equates the very idea of economic equality and justice with oppression—economic rights to him are a violation of human rights, rather than essential human rights, thereby completely inverting traditional left thinking.

Here’s what Neier wrote in his memoir, Taking Liberties:

“The concept of economic and social rights is profoundly undemocratic… Authoritarian power is probably a prerequisite for giving meaning to economic and social rights.”

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/06/mark-ames-the-lefts-big-sellout-how-the-aclu-and-human-rights-groups-quietly-exterminated-labor-rights.html
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08:29 PM on 06/24/2012
  "Can we all get along?" is not an issue.  The issue before us  for the past 30 years:  Have we the leaders that can form a coalition to lead out from the jaws of oligarchy and ruin.  Also, we must return the Senate to its original Constitutional requirement of a simple majority rule.  Who ever heard of any country ever being run on a 60 percent majority vote? Last, we must require civics-citizenship at every grade level including higher education.  Americans don't understand a democratic government.  They must understand their rights and duties and conditions of  healthy self-rule.
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2Shy
Hush Hush, Eye to Eye
06:43 PM on 06/24/2012
Romney (to Rick Scott): "How are supposed to put one over-- ... um, win the election ... if you keep reporting all of this good news?

"Barack Obama is supposed to be the Socialist Kenyan Anti-Christ who's bad for the economy, remember?"
06:29 PM on 06/24/2012
Hello Ms. Huffington, ...how I wish we could be on a first name basis so we could get into this over a cuppa or a glassa. Maybe someday. At any rate, forgive me being off topic but I don't know of a better way to reach you. Please watch the DVD entitled "Eating" and once you see it, I am guessing you will share the passion of all of its believers, people who believe our food system must be changed in the name of national health. I'm guessing women are more likely to make this change happen than men - and you are an especially strong voice among women.
05:56 PM on 06/26/2012
Suckin up via weekly recap is a fine way to garner attention. Our sympathies to you and your desire to sip Cosmo's with A.H. and bear your soul to the visionary, herself.
06:02 PM on 06/24/2012
I am going to go way out on a limb here and say for the record, that the evidence that Issa seeks is with the documents that Holder is not providing! I know, sounds crazy, but watching every Law in Order ever made, SVU and even the way over my head Criminal Intent, I would say I am imminently qualified to make such outrageous assertions. Plus we are still only 15 minutes in so far on the Fast and Fumbling episode starring Holder and now Obama. So I am looking now for clues now as to the twists at the end!
So stay tuned as we look to answer questions like, why would Holder risk a contempt charge and why does a Law man seem to be in so much trouble with well, the law? And why doesn’t Obama just throw Holder under the bus like a good Chicago politician would? Does Holder have something against Obama himself?!? Just how big will this get? Will we need to find a new definition for the word “Is”? Is it even legal for Obama to use the executive thingy for the AG? Is it constitutional? And why does a constitutional lecturer seem to have so much trouble with well, the constitution! Whoops. Spoiler alert! That’s next week’s show!
05:56 PM on 06/24/2012
Hello Ms. Huffington, ...how I wish we could be on a first name basis so we could get into this over a cuppa or a glassa. Maybe someday. At any rate, forgive me being off topic but I don't know of a better way to reach you. Please watch the DVD entitled "Eating" and once you see it, I am guessing you will share the passion of all of its believers, people who believe our food system must be changed in the name of national health. I'm guessing women are more likely to make this change happen than men because women are the true movers and shakers in our world - and you are an especially strong voice among women. Men, IMHO, are too busy eating steak and fearful of anything that could jeopardize that manly man imagery they bought into courtesy of Big Advertising's big buck budgets. This DVD is the single most powerful DVD I have ever seen; I couldn't watch it without walking around the room, it's not something one takes seated. Enough said....well almost... I like Thomas Dunker's book That's Not Food! though it and every other voice should be drowned out by what you'll hear in "Eating."
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sal ear
Hey, how are you?
03:40 PM on 06/24/2012
Hello Arianna. Today is a very discouraging day. Corporations and Governments don't seem to be concerned about their Citizens. A lot of what is touted by so-called Leaders & political Candidates in our Country is not in sync with what is actually happening to American People.

If Rick Scott suggests Florida is experiencing an Economic Recovery, he is delusional (IMHO) - or merely speaking of his own Financial situation. Rick Scott is not favored by many Floridians; our Economy and JOBS prospects are terrible: low wage/right to work state. But perhaps Florida's economy is beneficial for the very Wealthy.

Maybe M Romney realizes R Scott is such an anathema in his own State, that it's better (politically) to disassociate with Scott completely. Romney has enough of an image problem - he doesn't need Scott for further damage.

A very sad note: This year's winning racehorse, I'll Have Another, is being sent to Japan for breeding fees, 'temporarily'. Animal lovers & fans of this winning racehorse are distraught. Why? Two prior winning thoroughbred American rachorses, Exceller and Ferdinand, were sold to Japan. Both horses lives' ended horrifically - they were sold, discarded, and eventually suffered terrible, horrifying deaths in slaughterhouses. Conditions in slaughterhourses are BARBARIC. The way Ferdinand & Exceller lives ended was apalling & SHAMEFUL. Very sad news.
03:09 PM on 06/24/2012
"Bloomberg News reported that Romney had asked Florida's Republican governor to stop touting his state's good economic news because it clashed with the GOP candidate's message that Obama is destroying the economy."

It is all manipulation. Why do we tolerate manipulators? We the People have the vote. Why do we tolerate (GOP and Dems) so many liars when it is clear that they lie?
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OMEGA MAN
A wise man learns from the mistakes of others.
02:22 PM on 06/24/2012
Jefferson cited Adam Smith, the hero of free market capitalists everywhere, as the source of his conviction that (as Smith wrote, and Jefferson closely echoed in his own words), "A power to dispose of estates for ever is manifestly absurd. The earth and the fulness of it belongs to every generation, and the preceding one can have no right to bind it up from posterity. Such extension of property is quite unnatural." Smith said: "There is no point more difficult to account for than the right we conceive men to have to dispose of their goods after death."

http://www.economist.com/blogs/lexington/2010/10/estate_tax_and_founding_fathers
03:01 PM on 06/24/2012
There is surely some room for compromise here, but at the extreme end is the incremental building of dynasties, as wealth enables control of further wealth, and thus of political power. What exactly is "royal blood" except the enforcement of privilege?

The US founders were not exactly champions of downtrodden, but they had had their fill of "royal blood" and dispensed with royalty. The nation did not collapse but thrived yet deprived of the divine guidance of royals.

Many Americans are now enjoying the well done British soap, Downton Abbey, but the characters are appealing in part because the era of landed gentry was fading. The life of a serf in days of old was not enviable.
04:40 PM on 06/24/2012
What Adam Smith meant was that estates and the like should be given to charity or to the next generations because when you are dead, well you are dead and you should never try to control from the grave.
The article takes this basic belief and turns it into what it is not by referencing governments that of course want it for themselves and Thomas Paine who wanted to redistribute.
Today the government wants to bind up these assets and perpetuate themselves for their own sake. Charity is the way as opposed to death taxes into the special interest and graft filled trough we call Washington.
Until Washington can get control of itself, the lesser of the two evils is not to send the money there. Adam Smith would be rolling in his grave that anyone referenced him to justify the position the article frames.
01:49 PM on 06/24/2012
PSCA 1040 is absolutely right. The major media is part of the current big corporate/political status quo and so wants to keep everthing just as it is - regardless of extremely serious issues like growing substantial numbers of good jobs and our country's crushing debt, etc. The public is too easily manipulated and exploited and seems to care little about serioius issues anyway as long as they get their monthly brides (government subsidy checks) so they can focus on what's REALLY important - sports and entertainment. Voters always deserve the government they elect and by re-electing the same republicans an democrats this November instead of independents, they are only contributing to thier own, their children's, and our country's ongoing disintegration from lack of good jobs and massive debt.
01:43 PM on 06/24/2012
Arianna, why Romney has asked Rick Scott to stop touting Florida's good economic news in order to help him run as the prophet of doom & gloom under Obama's administration?

The answer is simple because the media, as a whole, has failed the American People by not highlighting the existence of 2 different economies after this Great Recession: Wall Street & Main Street.

The Media has put more pressure on Obama than Wall Street, which has been doing superb and refused to create jobs despite all the support provided by the Obama's administration during the bail out. So without governors such as Rick Scott & others, who brag about some success stories in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Florida, no single media institution would take the time to expose the domino effect of Obama's economic policies from the Stimulus to the Auto Bail Out for the nation.

One can only pinpoint how quickly Wall Street, the GOP & Romney jump on the bandwagon against Obama when he meant to say, that in comparison to Main Street or Public Sector, Wall Street was doing fine.

As much as I greatly appreciate HP's work, I hope & pray that, in order to create a better educated electorate, HP must write more exposés describing this Great Recession, its impact & what was accomplished by this administration to save Wall Street & move Main Street in the right direction.

Education is expensive. However, Ignorance is even worst. Unfortunately, complete amnesia would be the worst pandemic
01:10 PM on 06/24/2012
What is going on with HuffPost. 50% National Inquirer. It's getting difficult to take AH seriously when she talks about the media. The NYT may be in decline, but they do seem to keep the heartwarming bunny videos and daily Naked Flesh Eating updates off the main pages of their website. Is there really so little going on in the world?

Here's sampling of headlines from todays HP front page:

Are Vampires Real? Another Allegation Of Naked Flesh Eating In Florida
Mom Chops Off Girl's Ponytail At Judge's Suggestion
This Is Why Pet Piranhas Are Dangerous
Baby Lion Is BFFs With Dog And Bunny
Jessica Simpson Flaunts Cleavage With Baby Maxwell
Band Sues Fast Food Giant
Airline Reimburses Woman For Flying Next To Dead Man
Birds Like To Poop On Certain Cars
03:06 PM on 06/24/2012
Not 50% but I am puzzled by some of the material. There is room for a little fun and pet piranhas seem like a bad choice all around, but some of the material does seem to dilute the respect and confidence one would hold for the editors.
05:53 PM on 06/26/2012
Please do not besmirch the editorial policies of HuffPost. The stories the World finds of interest are found at HP. Stick with , The National Enquirer.