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Posted: 08/26/2012 12:00 am

In 2000, I co-convened the "Shadow Conventions," which ran concurrently with both the Republican and Democratic National Conventions, and shined the spotlight on three issues that neither party was seriously addressing: the corrupting influence of money on our politics, the persistence of poverty in America and the disastrous war on drugs. Twelve years later, these three problems have gotten worse. So we are bringing the Shadow Conventions back -- but this time we are using HuffPost Live and the Huffington Post platform to put these neglected issues center stage and make it possible for you to be part of a real discussion about them. In fact, HuffPost Live has already created "green room" pages where you can learn more about these issues, leave a comment and sign up to join an on-air Shadow Convention conversation. Click here for the drug war green room, here for poverty and here for money in politics. The Shadow Conventions are your conventions -- let your voice be heard.


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In 2000, I co-convened the "Shadow Conventions," which ran concurrently with both the Republican and Democratic National Conventions, and shined the spotlight on three issues that neither party was se...
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11:12 PM on 08/26/2012
Politics is not the only aspect of our lives corrupted by money. I am 61, and I can tell you that money rarely was a consideration in family decisions or family life in the 1950's.

Few families had money in the 1950's. Decisions were based on what was good for the family and community in terms of fairness to all. The underlying value was the common good of all families. Money was never mentioned at home in the majority of families because no one had any.

Money-or really greed-overtook the US as credit became more available and advertising started to appear everywhere. The advent could be marked with the release of "The Graduate", starring Anne Bancroft and Dustin Hoffman, which was a comment on the emptiness of big business, emblemized by Elaine's father saying the future was "plastics". This was 1967.

Today we find ourselves in a plastic world, with plastic leaders and plastic values. No one on the scene is more plastic or most void of apparent values than Mitt Romney. But the stage includes other characters too. Obama has played into the game for almost four years. Did he walk away from his values in the eyes of the public? Can he "screw his courage to a sticking place", as Shakespeare once said? Can he put himself in his own hands and live his values? I hope so, for, as the best candidate, he only has two and one half months left.
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Jenell Scherbel
Communication matters
04:18 AM on 08/27/2012
I'm afraid the winner-take-all money philosophy and practices have been around a lot longer than since after the 1950s. Don't forget the people who brought America to the economic brink in 1929. Don't forget the Gilded Age of the 1890s. Heck, don't forget 2008. Greed may be more overt and more widespread and perhaps even more admired currently, but it was just as admired in the 1890s and, no doubt, before that. We have such short historical memories. 2008 was not that long ago! It's amazing people can't put two and two together to see how deregulatory practices brought us to the brink again in 2008 by allowing a climate of wild-west investments and just plain corruption to take place within our banking and investment and mortgage-lending institutions. I grew up in the 50s, too. I'm 69. Yes, some people were poor then. But others weren't. People didn't always treat others kindly. Blacks could be arrested for "walking while black" back in my hometown. Families often hid their internal conflicts in "closed systems" that disallowed any kind of repair. Perhaps, read a book, "The Way We Never Were: American Families And The Nostalgia Trap," by Stephanie Coontz, for some enlightenment on what the 50s were really like. It was good and bad, a mixed bag, and a lot of the bad hidden away. Much of the nostalgia for the 1950s is just that, nostalgia, and mistaken nostalgia besides.
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aaazzz111
Ultra super gloat-free user
11:03 PM on 08/26/2012
It's not fun to run an election without monetary influence, media pizazz, and profits.
It's not fun to support the basics for those who are not able to support themselves.
It's not fun to go through boring day without some depression enhancement party-favor.

But we must find alternate methods to achieve these needed ends. We will not go on long otherwise...that wasn't at all fun saying.
09:52 PM on 08/26/2012
Too many children being born into poverty. A problem not just here in the U.S but world wide. Solutions need to be studied.
08:49 PM on 08/28/2012
I am a firm believer that too many children, born into physical poverty (and/or emotional one) is the root of many problems for which solutions must be found.....Right behind it is Mr. Greed....
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critterzdad2
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
09:49 PM on 08/26/2012
I'd join in if anyone can tell me how to hook up using logitech!
09:13 PM on 08/26/2012
The inclusion of poverty being one of the United States biggest failures is accurate. The world may idolize the U.S. for their music, arts and entertainment however not enough is not being done to feed our hungry children and it is disturbing. As the GOP Convention gets underway in Tampa where millions are being spent to elect our president, children in this country are going to bed hungry.

According to a new report from the Office of Research at the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF), the U.S. has one of the highest rates of child poverty in the developed world. Of the 35 wealthy countries studied by UNICEF, only Romania has a child poverty rate higher than the 23 percent rate in the U.S.

Our defense budget is in the billions and yet we criticize North Korea for the poverty they have in their country. How are we any different? We should be OUT of Afghanistan and use that money to cure poverty, the lack of health care and real estate woes in the U.S. The American Dream is crumbling and the next generation is scared to death.
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Jenell Scherbel
Communication matters
04:31 AM on 08/27/2012
Thanks for the UN stats. I'm not sure what it would take for people to recognize this gross misapplication of our country's monies and efforts and their better placement to take care of our own. Someone should do a chart comparing the millions spent on campaigns, including both corporate and superpac and other fringe contributions, vs. the level of economic need in this country.

What's contributing to this need? For one, the fact that, for every 2 private sector jobs created, we are currently losing over 1 job in the private sector. My analysis is that there actually is a "trickle down" effect, such that people at the local, city and state levels have felt the economic meltdown of 2008 last, but are hit the hardest. We are losing middle class jobs for people like teachers and those employed in basic city and town services.

I suppose one "ploy" is to defund public services that we take for granted--libraries, schools, city services, etc.--so that private enterprises can move in on those public and common good functions. Privatize everything. Well, we've seen how well that works with predatory private online universities and so on.

It's important to speak to the big budget issues, like Defense, but most people live at this local level, and that's where Americans are hurting now. I think that pain is not being addressed.
08:04 PM on 08/26/2012
Interesting that she did not assert, as she did on one of the talking heads shows this morning, that Romney picking Ryan was the equivalent of Obama replacing Biden with Grorge Clooney. Because both Ryan and Clooney are "heartthrobs" she said.
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07:39 PM on 08/26/2012
Certainly the "corrupting influence of money" is a root cause to just about every issue we face. But IMO, if you're going to address more than 1... the environment should without a doubt be in there. This will be THE defining issue of every future generation. Population is still burgeoning out of control, we're not getting any more efficient about resource utilization, and we're slowly destroying ecosystems all over the planet. If there ever was an issue, this is it. Quite simply the survival of our species, not to mention the planet... is at stake.
08:59 PM on 08/26/2012
agree on it.$ was,is and will "always" be the root to nearly "everything".the environment should've been in there but! lots is getting done for it - actually to much to mention all, but just one example:after the horrific BP oil spill (where i think the aftermath was horribly handled by BP and!! the government) looks like improving a lot with restaurants reopening and serving sea food again.no doubt though that still a lot of work is left to be done but don't forget this was one of the worst environmental disasters in history and nature is not weak (actually a specialist for sea and ocean said that the oceanwater has the ability to clean lots of the pollution itself).read,if you like(my) and other HP commenters replies to the "oil" related articles a few days ago.regarding the "at stake" remark check out on msn the 150 year map regarding earthquakes,wildfires,hurricanes.to me and some commenters there it looks like "it" was always there.
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doubleB
11:26 PM on 08/26/2012
I'm not even talking about the catastrophic things like wildfires... oil spills... hurricanes... I'm talking about the continuous and snowballing degradation of our natural world. Our population is exploding. Scientists already say we're using multiple times what's sustainable for a planet. And we're predicted to almost double in population again by mid-century before we level off. Factor in that we're "flattening" out, i.e. "America-like" middle classes are popping up everywhere and demanding the same standards of living we enjoy... and we're up s_ creek without a paddle. Our oceans are being overfished. Our rainforests are being slashed and burnt to the ground. We've got multiple Texas-sized gyres of plastic swirling in our oceans, choking and poisoning sea life. We're depleting our fresh water stores. We're filling and overfilling landfills everywhere. You can't go in a big city in the summer without dealing with smog. And climate change is (probably) past the tipping point. It's dire... I have no doubt some of us and some of the planet will survive. But in what state? It's not going to be pretty.
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Joseph Westfall
In Shambala I can see the forests & the trees
06:47 PM on 08/26/2012
where is the debate on the minimum wage?
a $10 million ceo pay or bonus
would put 200 people to work at $50,000 ea
for a year
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BNevrgivup
Bravebear
05:58 PM on 08/26/2012
Great interview on Bill Mahr, your commentary is always spot on. Ms. Huffington, most sincerly you work and efforts are the best that an American Leader can do in these trying and difficult times. Your many warnings regarding the Republican agenda and grab for further power, driven by greedy interests at the very top of their party one would hope are being listened to. Hat's Off for a Job Well Done!
07:48 PM on 08/26/2012
on AH i agree 100%.one example:her recent article "when M met P" was tremendous.by the time i read "PR ducking in the phone booth" i had tears in my eyes(laughing).i think it's one of my faves of all time - and i'm leaning towards R/R.BM's(don't like him) article on the other side had quite some fact and baseless points.read my comment there if you like.to solve these 3 BIG ONES (poverty,drugs,insane $ in politics) which got (exactly like she said way worse) is gonna be extremely difficult.
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Bravebear
05:00 AM on 08/27/2012
Thanks for taking the time to pass on your comment. I will check out the article you mentioned. B.
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LLeGrande
A Proud Liberal Democrat.
05:14 PM on 08/26/2012
Thus far, there has been no discussion or debate about poverty. And that then does not speak to the fact that many in the middle class are slipping into poverty. And the number of Americans in poverty is exploding.

Currently, more than 40-million Americans receive food stamps as we attempt to insure that starvation does not rear its ugly head in this land of plenty.

The talk is about maintaining the 'middle class'. And we always see income of about $250,000 as spoken about as the 'middle class'. What garbage. Middle class income is in the $50-60,000 income range, and that may include two incomes in arriving at total family income for three or four family members.

This is the middle-class about which that empty-shirt, Mitt Romney, says students should borrow from their parents to go to college - or shop around.

And still infrastructure crumbles, schools crumble, state governments contract, corporations send U.S. profits to foreign countries to avoid U.S. taxes, the rich pay taxes at half the rate of wage earners.

And the transfer of income and wealth continues unabated from the poor and middle class to the richest among us.

The richest 400 families in the U.S. own assets valued more than the assets of the bottom 150,000,000 Americans.

THIS SITUATION CANNOT GO ON MUCH LONGER.
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novabird
Lover of Life, Radical Centrist
06:22 PM on 08/26/2012
They consistently privatize the profits and socialize the losses.
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Chopin
Multiply the truth. Speak truth through power.
07:10 PM on 08/26/2012
Great accurate incisive summary of reality in USA today.
"This situation cannot go on much longer."

That's an understatement. In fact, feeling the American people's pulse of anger + rage + frustration (unfortunately there're no media polls or public index of anger + rage + frustration), one could reasonably surmise Americans (99%) are getting close to insurrection and genuine revolution, just waiting for the proverbial spark that ignites a prairie fire.

How else can Americans rationally explain the occurrence week after week of incomprehensible random "over the top" shootouts and mass murders in many US cities, unfocussed + misdirected against total strangers that never caused any harms to the murderers? That's uncomprehending pathological antisocial behavior, but not unexpected in times of great pervasive social injustice + economic pressures + extreme financial imbalance + emotional psychic stress.

Wait till some dumb prominent public personality in the Washington leadership establishment utters an American version of "Let them eat cakes !", and let's see how the stressed out 99% Americans can rise to the occasion, and truly comprehend the issues + identify the true public enemies of the American people, ... not talibans, or muslims, or poor immigrants, or gays, or blacks, or chinese, russians, iranians, nameless terrists 10,000 miles away, nor anybody else, ... and come to accurately identify who are lying to them, betraying their trust and hopes for better future, defrauding + exploiting their financial dependence + livelihoods, and oppressing their individual rights and dignities.
01:00 PM on 08/27/2012
Do I defile your summary with the addition of that deadly sin "GREED?"

Ann Romney epitimized it for me when she complained about the public wanting to know more about them. If one wishes for a private life, then lead a private life. If you are seeking public election, pulic addulation, or public acclaim, you open yourself to all manner of inquisitive people. We want to know if we can trust them. Do they have the skills, experience, and knowledge to fulfill the dream they claim? How did they achieve the acclaim they broadcast? Was it polite, considerate, et al?Were they honest competitors? Were they good sports? Or did they compete to "Win at All Costs?"

Or as many would ask, "Do I want them living next door to me?"
07:25 PM on 08/27/2012
@ "Chopin"

Quote :

"How else can Americans rationally explain the occurrence week after week of incomprehensible random "over the top" shootouts and mass murders in many US cities, unfocussed + misdirected against total strangers that never caused any harms to the murderers?"

Well the lawyers' cliche "The devil is in the details" may apply here. (I prefer my own double entendre idiom :"The Devil lies in the details")

"Differential diagnosis" applies as well. There may well be a simple explanation for "random "over the top" shootouts and mass murders" :

Demographics. There are simply more crazy people out there, and more frenzied news saturation about those crazy people. And they're not all random, at lease not with the first couple of bullets. The New York crazy person last week, who was clearly broiling over with homicidal ideation long before he acquired a gun, was aiming for his co-worker.

A psychotic ultimately does not discriminate when there's an easily accessible gun in his hand, even in New York, where gun laws are very much restrictive. In the heat of action, crazy people don't have a political or social agenda in their back pocket.

Incomprehensible ? Incomprehensible to whom ?

J.B.
05:02 PM on 08/26/2012
Just curious who you want to win the election????????????? I mean since so called journalists are supposed to be unbiased
The Joler
nil sine labore
07:53 PM on 08/26/2012
I don't beleive that jopurnalists are required to be unbiased when making commentary, as against when directly reporting events and if one cannot figure out a journalists bias and discount the comments accordingly, it is probably better not to ead them. One could hardly say that Fox news is an unbiased news platform either. So what?
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kmchambers
07:55 PM on 08/26/2012
Journalist are "suppose" to be unbiased in their coverage of a story. But they are not expected to not hold personal opinions.
04:36 PM on 08/26/2012
Its great you are focusing on these three issues. It really comes down to whether we can still govern ourselves or not, or will be allowed to govern ourselves given all the vested interests twisting and pushing every issue. Its really serious. If we lose not only the ability, but the will, to govern ourselves we lose the nation. The US will become nothing but a cash funded advertisement that benifits those holding the checkbook.
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SamuraiBob
Giving it like a Boss
03:36 PM on 08/26/2012
Democratics must learn to master the possible and stop always dreaming of
a romantic national renaissance. Victories whatever the size, over a period of
time will bend the arc. No discipline, no patience, no hope.
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wonderYrednow
¿Y read backwards?
04:43 PM on 08/26/2012
I dunno, The New Deal, The Great Society, The Internet Age and The Great Recovery match up pretty well to The Cold War, The War of Drugs & The Vietnam War, Star(T) Wars and The Wars in Error.
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SamuraiBob
Giving it like a Boss
05:08 PM on 08/26/2012
The Arc has swung right. Surely you've noticed.
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xsited1
Moderated for my own good
02:14 PM on 08/26/2012
Poverty in America was made worse when LBJ declared his 'war on poverty'. Ever notice when politicians declare a war on something it just gets worse?
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Anabelle Lee
03:42 PM on 08/26/2012
First sell out trade deal named GATT in 1973.
The sell out trade deals are what made things worse.
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Klarsonent
Semi-retired landlady, small business entrepreneur
04:24 PM on 08/26/2012
What I find to be strange is why people have to use the word "war" for anything they oppose? Or, is it just a "guy" thing???
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wonderYrednow
¿Y read backwards?
04:59 PM on 08/26/2012
We have to make up for what we lack in 'other' departmental areas....
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Chopin
Multiply the truth. Speak truth through power.
07:23 PM on 08/26/2012
It's a dumb guy thing.
How many "wars" have been declared?
"war on drugs",
"war on poverty",
"war on terr0r",

The only thing now missing is "war on wars".
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Soul Dancer
HP blog http://huffingtonpost.com/soul-dancer
01:32 PM on 08/26/2012
Would LOVE to see a component of the shadow convention focus just on 'daily actions.' All the statistic ping-ponging serves only intellectual couch-quarterbacking.

From now until elections, I'm calling people, organizing car-pooling schedules for election day, hosting pot-lucks where we bring food and first-hand facts (not facts boiled-up by some third-party, unverifiable source).

So much of the fear rallied in this campaign is a bunch of hot air based on a perceived lack. True, many are in need. Those who have - it's well past time to help out - regardless of what voice is at the helm.

Comments here on what you are ACTUALLY - doing to 'support the cause' - (for which ever candidate you're favoring) - most welcome!
03:55 PM on 08/26/2012
"Soul Dancer"

...Uh...

Right.

I suspect Arianna could match your expectations.

Meanwhile.

Quote :

"True, many are in need."

...any other gratuitous observations welcome...

J.B.
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Jenell Scherbel
Communication matters
04:43 AM on 08/27/2012
Good for you! I've worked with OFA for the last year and a half. Whatever we can do that's concrete. Share the facts. Share them here. Sometimes talk helps people build courage to act. Talk AND act! Act AND talk! Obama 2012!
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Soul Dancer
HP blog http://huffingtonpost.com/soul-dancer
10:37 AM on 08/27/2012
Thanks Jenell!  I may just change my radio show format for the next few months - to help this along!  I'll ask listeners to dial in - LIVE - to share what they're doing to support one of our basic rights  - to vote!