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Barack Obama's Special Olympics line on Leno got all the headlines, but the night's real money quote was his saying that his administration plans to "set up a securitized market for student loans and auto loans outside of the banking system" in order to "get credit flowing again." Excuse me, but isn't that what the $700 billion bank bailout was supposed to do? So what happened? Instead of lending the billions we gave them, Obama explained to Leno, the bailed out banks "are keeping it in the bank because their balance sheets had gotten so bad." Imagine that: zombie banks using taxpayer money to stay afloat. If the White House really didn't see that one coming, it's no wonder the ferocity of the public's reaction to the AIG bonuses caught them so off-guard.

 
 
 

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01:57 AM on 03/25/2009
jerrydeniumThe handling of the bailout has been a disgrace, the bonus scandal does matter, and Geithner's actions at Treasury, especially his TALF plan is an outrage. It is time for both Geithner and Summers to go and Obama needs some fresh leadership on his econ team.
Please wake up America, your country and your President need you,... just not as blind cheerleaders.

My President needs me to contradict his remark, "I will not accept Geithner's resignation if offered."??
10:23 PM on 03/22/2009
....As an Obama supporter I don't feel like my job ended on election night. I still want Obama to be the best President he can be and if his advisers are steering him on a wrong-headed and disastrous course I am going to speak up loudly and insist the President do the right thing. I am surprised to see two months after the Bush nightmare ended, the people who worked to see his ideas and his party defeated would want another "stay the course" President. The bank bailout course Obama is allowing Geithner and Summers to set is the same disastrous course that was set by Bush/Paulson and you don't need a PhD in economics or a Nobel prize to figure that out. I support Obama but I can not, and will never support more government by bankers for the good of bankers. The handling of the bailout has been a disgrace, the bonus scandal does matter, and Geithner's actions at Treasury, especially his TALF plan is an outrage. It is time for both Geithner and Summers to go and Obama needs some fresh leadership on his econ team.

Please wake up America, your country and your President need you,... just not as blind cheerleaders.
10:22 PM on 03/22/2009
Thank you Arianna for doing your patriotic duty as an American and and as a journalist. Its very disturbing to me as an American, a thinking person and an Obama supporter to see people who think they are "progressive" or "reform minded" attacking you and other members of the media for doing your job and offering constructive criticism of the Obama administration where it is due.

I find it ironic that many of the people leaving negative comments aimed at anyone criticizing the Obama administration were the exact same people who were repulsed by the non-thinking, blind supporters of John McCain and Sarah Palin. Blind unthinking allegiance to any politician is a dangerous thing regardless of their political affiliation.
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10:10 PM on 03/22/2009
Here is what just happened in a nutshell:

The hedge funds that pumped up the market for mortgage-backed securities saw how overheated it was and switched out for insurance (credit default swaps sold principally by AIG) in a bet that the securities would fail - they were right, and now the government has to pump money into AIG in order to pay those obligations because AIG could not actually pay up once the market finally tanked.

So now, those same securities that made money overheating the securities market, and that subsequently made money on the failure of those same securities, will now get to purchase those securities at pennies on the dollar and make money yet again once the market begins to recover. In other words, the toxic assets will eventually take care of themselves as soon as Obama and the treasury finish creating a trade mechanism for them.

That unfortunately means that same jerks who created the mess will be the ones that will profit most from it.

It sucks, but it's the only way we are going to recover. And Obama knows it. Unfortunately, making that case to a bunch of ADD, MSM obsessed Americans is not something Obama is willing to tackle at the moment. We are just too sensitive right now.
09:34 PM on 03/22/2009
This is the beginning of the return of the GOP to power. Now all they need do is twist the knives in Obama's back.
09:06 PM on 03/22/2009
Thanks Arianna, I'm glad you haven't been bought and sold like most of our media personalities and are bringing the truth. Yes, the comment by BO on the balance sheets was disturbing and I'm surprised he just nonchalantly mentioned that.
09:44 PM on 03/22/2009
I'm sorry, but she is trumpeting the same message as the MSM on this one
02:45 PM on 03/23/2009
Could it be a FACT that Obama trusts these Bankster too much?
09:03 PM on 03/22/2009
I suspect Obama has been relying too much on these financial experts/insiders including Mr. Summers, Bernanke, and Geithner, and actually believed their preaching that whatever rescue plan the administration comes up, it has to rely on Wall Street to implement. It has made him look weak, unsympathetic to public outcry (which is justified), and painfully incompetent and lacking in leadership. This pains me enormously to say, as a strong supporter of him.

This assumption has been so toxic itself, it needs to be disregarded. Obama should trust his instinct, and lead as he promised us to. To rely on the same bunch of 'masters of the universe' to undo the mess they invited upon us is every bit wrong as well as ineffective. I really hope Obama abandon that approach and tell Geithner to find other means to get the money move again and bypass the zombie banks altogether. I just hope he does this quickly and forcefully, so he can salvage some of the goodwill, or I fear the cost will be so high that the other initiatives (way more important than the current mess, in my book) will fall flat as well due to their own incredible difficulty and the loss of public trust in his competence. I shudder at what would happen, if health care and energy reform doesn't succeed this time!!!
09:01 PM on 03/22/2009
The larger point of this is that if all these huge institution need the money just to stay afloat then what the heck are we talking about. We are really cradling on the edge of a global depression! People say stop giving money to the banks...then what? If they really cannot stay afloat by themselves then doesn't that mean they would all crumble to dust without the aid from the government. Can the government (FDIC) really insure all the depositors and credit line that has been held by all these banks if they all fail at roughly the same time. I seriously doubt it.
08:59 PM on 03/22/2009
If the money was in his office fridge, if his team was taking jaunts to south sea islands while we all suffered back home...then okay. But I can't believe that you think you know so much better as to what needed to be done when the economic house was on fire. Give them a break. Okay...they should have seen the political firestorm coming but I'd rather they ignore politically problematic bonuses that amount to nothing financially in the scheme of things if they are putting everyone's fingers in the hundreds of holes of our monetary dike.
08:49 PM on 03/22/2009
The banks don't want to lend because the needy have figured out a way to beat the greedy ... they just won't pay.
09:41 PM on 03/22/2009
You are on to something here....but for most I think it should have said "cant pay"....the revolution is near....and the greedy elite have now been officially notified of their imminent demise....just hope it doesn't take the rest of us down too....just afraid it will
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08:17 PM on 03/22/2009
Is it TIME TO SHIFT GEARS?

Yes it is WRONG that $1,000 goes to Banks for every $1 that goes to Main Street.

Why NOT an Internet Government Bank that lends directly to consumers and businesses at low rates and low fees, with NO BRANCH OFFICES to increase OVERHEAD!

Automate the Industry so Main Street gets served regardless of the corruption or FAILURE of the BIG Zombie Banks! Create A MAIN STREET ECONOMY independent of WALL STREET!

No more waiting in lines to see a loan officer or deposit a check.

An Internet Central Bank removes the corrupt middle man and can do everything Main Street Needs through the Internet, ATMs, and Debit/Credit Cards at much lower Rates and Fees!
08:00 PM on 03/22/2009
Pres. Obama just said on 60 minutes (words of wisdom for us all) that we should not govern from anger. AND, he and his administration were not surprised by the angry reactions.
08:58 PM on 03/22/2009
Thanks - I'm on the west coast so I still have an hour to go. Glad to see some 'friendly' comments around this parts tonight!
09:45 PM on 03/22/2009
Sounds like vintage Obama... words we should all abide by
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07:42 PM on 03/22/2009
$700 billion plus dollars gone. Gone with minimal accountability. Gone to multi-national corporations and ultra-wealthy individuals who make campaign contributions.

And one, two, three, and who-knows-how-many-more demands for additional billions of dollars just waiting over the horizon.

Of course, this time the trickle-down theory is really going to work. What's needed is more time, more time without any signifigant accountability.

"Ready on day one."

Day one = 60 days ago, i.e., January 20, 2009

Day one = 111 days after the Senate bailout vote on October 1, 2008.

Day one = 710 days after Senator Obama formally announced his presidentialy candidacy on February 10, 2007.

More time is needed before anyone can ask: "Where's the money?" "Who got it?" "How does this trickle-down theory work?"

More time is needed.

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07:34 PM on 03/22/2009
Arianna, you have a singularily important voice. Please use your voice to remind us of the good things that Obama has already done for our economy: he recapitalized the banks, he gave us a stimulus package, he's given a us mortgage program to help people avoid foreclosure, and a program for many of us to refinance our homes. He's giving us a budget that will help us to regrow our economy with good programs over the next 10 years, and one that fixes our medical system that is bankrupting us. Tomorrow, we will get more details on how he hopes to remove toxic assets from the banks so that they can start lending again. He's going to start a loan program to help purchase cars, and take out student loans.

With all of this, you site is choosing to join the chorus on legal but stupid bonuses. It's a lost opportunity to show us that you can see farther than yesterday, and look toward the future with support for the programs our President is implementing.

We need your vision to help us understand the bigger picture, we need your leadership to take us to a better understanding of the good programs that are being implemented to help the American people.

Please....
08:59 PM on 03/22/2009
Trust that there is a reason you are receiving no replies on your great post. Not a lot are getting on
09:46 PM on 03/22/2009
Well said....and I'm surprised of some here abandoning ship so damn early in this Presidency....even those that were so critical (and rightfully so) of the most recent one....can anyone say..PATIENCE
06:48 PM on 03/22/2009
BryanSmith said:

"Here is what just happened in a nutshell:

The hedge funds that pumped up the market for mortgage-backed securities saw how overheated it was and switched out for insurance (credit default swaps sold principally by AIG) in a bet that the securities would fail - they were right, and now the government has to pump money into AIG in order to pay those obligations because AIG could not actually pay up once the market finally tanked.

So now, those same securities that made money overheating the securities market, and that subsequently made money on the failure of those same securities, will now get to purchase those securities at pennies on the dollar and make money yet again once the market begins to recover. In other words, the toxic assets will eventually take care of themselves as soon as Obama and the treasury finish creating a trade mechanism for them.

That unfortunately means that same jerks who created the mess will be the ones that will profit most from it.

It sucks, but it's the only way we are going to recover. And Obama knows it. Unfortunately, making that case to a bunch of ADD, MSM obsessed Americans is not something Obama is willing to tackle at the moment. We are just too sensitive right now."

THIS IS WHAT THE HUFFPO AND THE MASS MEDIA SHOULD BE SAYING INSTEAD OF ALL THE FAUX POPULIST OUTRAGE AIMED AT A MAN WHO'S BEEN IN OFFICE LESS THAN 3 MONTHS.
07:41 PM on 03/22/2009
No, but this is not right. This outcome would represent a choice. And a selection to which neither Obama nor any other policy maker or economic advisor should be willing to readily admit. It is false to view credit default swaps as insurance in the traditional sense--purchases that singly encouraged risks or investments. Only if credit default swaps assumed that character did they need to be paid--as we did with Fannie and Freddie.

The government simply should not have allowed itself into being hoodwink into giving AIG any money beyond an initial outlay to simply stave the appearance of an entire system in collapse. The country should not have "bailed out" AIG, by giving it enough money to sustain it.

That we did in a foolish rush is what makes AIG so hard to face. It wasn't necessary to save the market. Most of what happened initially was a groping for solutions--and posturing to calm the panic of Wall Streeters who had the ear of policymakers and rightlly viewed their own impending collapse but wrongly conflated theirs with the total collapse of the country.
08:27 PM on 03/22/2009
If I was not so certain about the calamity your idea would entail, I would suggest to President Obama that just to prove to people like you how wrong you are , he should let AIG fail. I would love you see you react to all the related and not understood consequences that would follow .

AIG is not just a financial entity. It is an insurance company which insures and provides insurance and annuity dollars to millions of individuals and businesses all over the world. When AIG fails and all those affected realize they now have no insurance or any annutiy funds which they thought they had then we would see real collapse, real panic and real fear spread throught the country.

I would wish someone could lay out a spaghetti chart that shows all the interdependences / tentacles that spring from AIG to major corporations and main street individuals. Maybe, just maybe then Americans would get what we are up against and quit whining because this path we are on is necessary.

Wake up America: letting AIG fail (claim bankruptcy) is not like letting your average, local, Mom and Pop store so the same.
07:50 PM on 03/22/2009
Say Amen! Keep posting this.