As our seemingly endless primary process reaches the homestretch and the focus shifts to the general election, we need to pull the plug on the media's disturbing habit of acting as if foreign policy and domestic policy are completely separate entities -- a pair of high stakes board games that can only be taken off the shelf and played one at a time. To hear the media tell it, combining the two would make about as much sense as using your Monopoly pieces to play Risk.

But while there is almost nothing about the Iraq war that can be labeled a success, we can declare that it has been exceedingly successful in showing how intertwined foreign and domestic policy actually are. In the book The Three Trillion Dollar War: The True Cost of the Iraq Conflict, Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, along with co-author Linda Bilmes, argue that, even using "conservative assumptions," the Iraq war will cost at least $3,000,000,000,000, and likely as much as $5,000,000,000,000.

Stiglitz also argues that the war has played a major role in the current subprime credit crisis and our long, hard slog toward recession. Because of the cost of the war, the Fed flooded the system with credit. "The regulators were looking the other way and money was being lent to anybody this side of a life-support system," Stiglitz told The Australian's Peter Wilson.

The book (excerpted here by the Times of London, and here's an interview with the authors at Democracy Now) notes that the cost is 60 times the $50 - 60 billion we were told the war would cost by Don Rumsfeld. The Iraq war is already the second costliest war in American history, trailing only World War II.

Stiglitz makes the case that no country can fight a protracted war without deep and long-lasting effects on domestic policy. Particularly a protracted war paired with tax cuts. Now this doesn't mean a war shouldn't be fought (see World War II), but it does mean that our leaders should be honest about what the real costs will be. And not just in terms of dollars and cents but also in opportunity costs.

The single defining constant of the war over its disastrous, almost-five-years has been the complete and total lack of honesty from those who got us into it and have championed its continued prosecution -- including head war cheerleader John McCain. And although the driver of the 100 Year War Express is fond of offering frequent, empty, and clichéd nods to "sacrifice," he somehow thinks that's all the discussion that's needed about the costs of the war. Note to McCain: your protestations about "out of control" government spending would carry more weight if they weren't accompanied by calls for making permanent the tax cuts you once opposed as "not appropriate" in a time of war.

Maybe Saddam Hussein's head was worth $3,000,000,000,000 -- $5,000,000,000,000, maybe it wasn't (like most of the country, I believe the latter), but if McCain wants us to be there for 100, or 1,000, or a million years, he should be forced to make the case that the benefits outweigh the costs -- foreign and domestic.

As Crooked Timber's Daniel Davies notes, "the cost of the Iraq War could have underwritten Social Security for fifty years."

Or, as Aida Edemariam puts it in the Guardian, it would have paid for "8 million housing units, or 15 million public school teachers, or healthcare for 530 million children for a year, or scholarships to university for 43 million students." Of course, as John McCain himself has told us, he "doesn't really understand economics." But foreign policy does not exist in an economics vacuum.

Yet does anybody doubt that the general election is going to feature article after newscast after editorial extolling McCain's "foreign policy expertise?" Even if he's asked about the cost of remaining in Iraq, McCain will likely respond with some version of the Bush spin. "People like Joe Stiglitz," said the White House "lack the courage to consider the cost of doing nothing and the cost of failure. One can't even begin to put a price tag on the cost to this nation of the attacks of 9/11."

Ah, the well-worn 9/11 trump card -- up to now, always an effective debate-ender. Will it still work come this fall? To a large extent that will depend on whether the media are as cowed by it as they have been since the run-up to the Iraq invasion.

If the coverage of the "surge" is any indication, the odds aren't great there will be more truth telling this time. The media seem to have decided that the surge is already a notch on McCain's foreign policy belt. It's a notch the candidate will be able to finger long past November since, the way things have shaken out, the surge has only served to deepen our foothold in Iraq. In fact, many believe that was the point all along.

As Sam Brannen of CSIS notes, "The United States is now the thread that binds Iraq, and it is clear that a serious unraveling of the situation would occur were this thread suddenly to be pulled away." Which led Judah Grunstein to conclude: "In other words, instead of making it easier for us to leave Iraq, the Surge has made it more difficult. And if that doesn't qualify a military tactic as a failure, I don't know what does."

This, in turn, led Andrew Sullivan to say: "I'm not sure that the surge wasn't in retrospect a deliberate attempt to make it all but impossible for the US to leave Iraq any time soon. And less out of a genuine security worry, than in order to save face for Bush and Cheney."

So will John McCain be called to account for the surge, and the rising costs of the continuing occupation the surge has enabled? Not likely. Getting the media to avoid a full accounting of the costs of the war -- both in terms of dollars spent and lives lost or ruined -- was one of the primary goals of the surge. And, in that respect, it has been sadly successful.

The thing about $3,000,000,000,000 is that, at a certain point, it becomes hard to ignore. As the red ink from the approaching recession continues to spill, you can bet the media will be all over the story -- the economy headlined as America's top domestic worry. The question is, will the media connect the dots between the war John McCain loves so much and the economic devastation it's helped cause? The answer could determine who is the next president of the United States.


 

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Our forces should be patrolling and protecting our cities, waters, bridges, nuclear sites, electrical grids, dams, railways, train stations, bus stations sporting events and airways.
We need a strong Commander in Chief who can see our real problems and where we are most susceptible to attack. John McCain is not that man. Those torturous, lonely years in the hole"the repeated beatings and torture threw John Sidney McCain off kilter, mentally. That is where he developed the pathological tenacity that drives him and his inner rage. Presently he is in a controlled life environment. He has all sorts of things and people restraining him"his wife, friends and backers. Then there are those senior moments that he struggles with to maintain his self control on that razor-like wire he has to walk to keep his political balance. About now, he is getting flashes and flushes of excitement as he considers the Glorious Robe of Power that could be bestowed upon him.
There is no earth moving vehicle on the planet that could budge him once he has that power and sets his course. It will be more of the same"war after war"battle after battle"death after death"our resources will be drained to the near empty mark.

It killed The Roman Empire.

It could kill us.

Give John Sidney McCain the Presidency. Give him the legacy of unlimited power that GWB has bequeathed to the Whitehouse, and he will be utterly unrestrained"ready to release his suppressed rage onto the world.

It could be his, and our, final scene.

No thanks John.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 03/08/2008

Please remember, if up to you children would still be thrown in to pits of wild animals, women raped in front of their families just for fun, homosexuals thrown off rooftops just for being homosexuals.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 03/07/2008

Hmm... I'm trying to remember, but I can't seem to recall THAT. This was never about Saddam being a brutal pig -- he was; one of the worst -- it was supposed to be about WMD. If Bush had been honest and asked for permission to go to war in order to topple a tyrant overseas, the American people would not have supported that war. They lied instead. Because it was easier and it gave them what they want.

So don't accuse ME of wishing Saddam were back in power. Hey, Mugabe and Putin are pretty brutal as well. Bashir in Sudan, etc. And our buddy Mubarak is no George Washington. The list of despots is endless and that's why it would not have popular support.

epu

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 03/08/2008

I'm kinda reflecting here if you "progressives" remember that you elected a Democratic controlled Congress in 06 and that that group of spineless jellyfish keeps sending Iraqi war funding bills to the Chimp and his buffoons?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 03/05/2008

Talking about extending unlimited credit to unsuspecting Americans - Just saw a report that would allow Americans to get a debit card to access their 401k savings plans.
Also, Moodys has downgraded US treasuries and will give them junk bond status over the next 10-12 years based on the debt ratio that US currently holds - is this responsible government. Bush got his revenge on Saddam Hussein - the democrats were unable to question or challenge any of the decisions that were made by them.
Americans need to wake up and start participating actively in everything that is going on and all the decisions that are being made.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 03/06/2008

Believe me, I for one haven't forgotten..Biu I think we are too busy blaming Hillary's vote as the cause of this stinking war, to go after all the newly elected Dem Congress-persons who have proven incapable of delivering on their promises to reign in GW and his war.. If they dont act soon to fix some of our problems, next election the Republicans are going to retake Congress. ..I suppose everyone is going to blame Hillary for that too if she is the sitting president when it happens..

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 03/05/2008

Neither Clinton, Obama, or McCain will be the sitting president when the next election happens. That will be George Bush. However, if we are dumb enough to nominate Hillary (or she is short-sighted enough to steal the nomination), then she will bear some responsibility for any Republicans swept into office in November.

She is the only GOTV tool the GOP has. Let's try not to hand it to them on a silver platter.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:54 PM on 03/08/2008

Anybody out there ever read Thomas E. Ricks' book "Fiasco" about the Iraqi war? I think you'd find it informative and spot on. Try it instead of just whining about the situation. I do believe it will give you some ammunition to bolster your case.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 03/05/2008

THank You Arianna. This ; "...And although the driver of the 100 Year War Express is fond of offering frequent, empty, and clichéd nods to 'sacrifice,' ..." was a great way to describe the pro-war candidate.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 03/05/2008

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THE AMERICAN VOTERS DIDN'T SEE THE SOLUTION
IN RON PAUL. HE IS EVERYTHING THAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS. WITHOUT
A GUIDING PHILOSOPHY, GOVERNMENT GOES HAYWIRE... EMOTION RATHER
THAN REASON. AYN RAND SHOULD BE REQUIRED READING FOR EVERY
AMERICAN. I'M SO DISGUSTED WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING. I THINK
I'M GONNA EAT SOME WORMS!!! I WANT RON PAUL TO RUN ON THE L.P. TICKET.
HE SAYS HE WON'T... THAT HE IS A REPUBLICAN... A LIBERTARIAN WHO SAYS
HIS PARTY .... RIGHT OR WRONG???? UGH!!!! WISH WE HAD HARRY BROWNE
BACK. HE WAS A BETTER LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE. THE 2 PARTIES HAVE A
MONOPOLY ON OUR SYSTEM. HOW DOES THIS COMPLY WITH OUR ANTI-TRUST
LAWS??? THE DEMS AND REPUBS MAKE OUR BALLOT ACCESS LAWS TO FAVOR
THE ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATES. WE NO LONGER HAVE THE HIGH GROUND
IN OUR "DEMOCRACY".... SAD... I HOPE OUR FOUNDING FATHERS ARE NOT
WATCHING THIS. WE HAVE THROWN THEIR LEGACY BACK IN THEIR FACES.
RON PAUL WRITE-IN.... DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS!!!!
AND WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 03/05/2008

All Democratic candidates this fall need to pound on the theme, "It's the war, stupid!"

They need to continually drive home the arithmetic. How many roads, bridges, schools, windmills etc would 1 year's supplemental purchase? If the population of Iraq is 20 million and we spend $120 billion per year, we're spending $6000 per capita per year. Why not just pay them to be good? That is in fact what we have started doing with the Awakening and what has succeeded in reducing US casualties -- for now. But if our troops weren't there, we wouldn't have to pay them not to kill Americans.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 03/04/2008

$5 Trillion is a small price to pay for for a Neoconservative agenda and a shot at historivcal greatness.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 03/04/2008

3 trillion dollars! And for nothing. The troops will have to be withdrawn at some point and Iraq will collapse into civil war and perhaps become an even more dangerous rogue state.

At least deficit spending on social welfare produces dividends (a more educated, healthier population). When will the tired neo-con economic ideology finally be laid to rest.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 03/04/2008

The amount of money spent on the war would not have dealt such a blow to the American economy, were it not for the fact that much of it went to executive salaries and off-shore bank accounts. Had the money been spent on good salaries and raw materials in the US, the impact would have been much less.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 03/04/2008

LDW,
I agree with you. If the Iraqi's were the ones to actually run the gas and oil
companies, get contracts for rebuilding water, sewer and electric. If they could
at least work with other contractors to rebuild schools and hospitals.
But Bush gave Exxon, Hunt and BP no bid contracts for oil. He had Bectel do
water and sewer, but they are notorious for taking the money and leaving
town, which they did again. And lest we forget, there was also Halliburton,
which has since moved to Saudi Arabia, but without completing one job.
Small wonder there is still violence in Iraq! If we turned it all over to them,
my guess they would sort it out in whatever way they decide. But then Bush
and Chaney and all those big oil people would be outta luck.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 03/04/2008

"...they are notorious for taking the money and leaving
town, which they did again."

We'll be saying the same about Dubya in the near future.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 03/04/2008

Once the dust settles, the American public will finally understand just exactly how much of our money has been squandered. It boggles the mind. By accouts, if the $3-5R price tag is correct, that is almost half of our national debt. If you do the math, there is no way it can ever be repaid. Social Security and Medicare are done. Our grandkids are so fucked. And what have we got? $4.00/gallon at the pump. Recession. No-bid contracts. No privacy. No bankruptcy protection. 700+ "signing statements". The "Goddamned piece of paper:" Where the fuck is everyone? This ultimately becomes our own damn fault.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 03/05/2008

I wonder what the robber-barons plan to do when the pyramid scheme collapses. I mean, at some point it has to. Will the House of Bush and the House of Cheney become like the aristocracies of old Europe (or, better yet, China)? Living on vast estate in the countryside -- surrounded by guards to protect them from the vengeful rabble, of course -- and exploiting the commoners with quasi-indentured servant status, etc?

Do they think they can ride out the collapse and found some GOP utopia after the End Times? The bad math mojo involved here is staggering...

epu

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 03/08/2008

Don't you have a sense that Cheney and his oil company / energy policy planning buddies are all patting themselves on the back and saying, "The plan worked just as we thought it would."

Hey, the other day I mentioned a book I read and liked about Iraq (The Mesopotamia Mess) and the morass the Brits found themselves in after their invasion in 1914. Andrew Sullivan at the Atlantic Monthly had a good comment about it too.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/02/blast-from-the.html

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 03/04/2008

Lets see, we are a country of over 3 hundred million people and we "let" a little over 5 hundred assholes do this to our nation..GO FIGURE!
Isn't a Republic GREAT?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 03/04/2008

The country has a steering wheel and it was handed to a "recovering" alcoholic and his friends in the oil industry. We just need to pull the emergency break and dump out the obnoxious passengers right where they were found in the middle of Wyoming.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 03/05/2008

Yea, and take McCain with them. This moron is as bad as Bush, can't add & subtract. If they can't do basic math, they have no business EVEN running for president!! We need to ask McCain how he plans on paying for his 100 yr. war?The American people need to stop drinking the water and brushing their teeth with floride toothpaste. Floride is a poison and it's affects are apathy and lack of motivation, which is the sad state of most citizens today. It's not a surprise that our GOVERNMENT is the one that decided to put it in our water and toothpaste. For our "health", so they can pad the pockets of the drug companies when we get sick. The merry-go-round keeps spinning. The Bush regime and supporters are following in the path of the infamous Hitler. Invading countries for power and resources, stripping their citizens of rights, experimenting with chemicals & drugs on thier citizens, propaganda & mind control (TV). Wake up America! Our only solution to the corruption in Washington is for the 300 million of US to kick out the 525 that are screwing us royally with wars and corruption that WE are paying for. Why does everyone forget that THEY work for US!? Stand up for your rights NOW, before they completely disappear! The Beatles got it right -"They say you want a revolution". Where are all the 'Boomers" that stood up in the 70's?. Get your fat asses off the couch!!.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 03/05/2008

I wonder if anyone in the MSM print media has sought & gained HP's permission to print or reprint one of Ms Huffington's blogs & really printed Ms Huffington's blog or blogs. I'd also be interested to find out if anyone in the MSM print media has ever applied to HP &/or a blogs author for permission to print or reprint any blog of which held HP had a copyright or copyrights, which HP or the blog's author licensed or granted permission to print or reprint & an element of the MSM used the print media to reprint the blog. Since HP is on its way to becoming the webs 1st American newspaper of record in a year or less-one would expect content from HP to appear in or be syndicated to & printed or reprinted by media which use the print [ink on paper] format. Since HP, Ms Huffington, her editors & those who write blogs which appear in or on HP are committed to telling the truth & freedom of the press I would expect HP, et al to grant permission or license to a print periodical or publication to use a blog from HP. I think that the copyright laws of the USA allow reprints of or other use of copyrighted material when one seeks & gets permission to use or print the copyrighted material from the owner [or owners] of copyrighted material. I think that wire services & others who syndicate copyrighted stories earn money for licensing the use of their copyrighted stories, etc.
In short-who uses stories from HP?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 03/04/2008

What is your basis for claiming that this site has become America's 'paper of record'? I am absolutely in love with some of the writing and the writers here (Marty Kaplan), and I certainly respect only the truth and there also seems to be much that is true spoken here, but agreeing with a point of view doesn't make it the dominant point of view or the only correct one. I fully believe as Micheal Moore has said that America is peopled by progressive-minded citizens, but Americans haven't been very interested in truth and reality for quite some time so which is the 'journal of record'; the one that speaks the truth, or the one that mirrors the outward point of view of most Americans? I would venture to sadly say that fox news is America's current dominant point of view and as long as it goes unchallenged will be what history records (a sad sad reality).

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 03/05/2008

Lets see, we are a country of over 3 hundred million people and we "let" a little over 5 hundred assholes do this to our nation..GO FIGURE!
Isn't a Republic GREAT?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 03/04/2008

Tuesday, March 04, 2008


Dear Ms. Huffington,


The only claim to fame McCain has is that he was captured by the enemy back in time! I still don"t know why he was made into a hero. It must"ve been one hell of a PR.
My question is how can he run for the presidency of the US if he was born in Panama? He was born on August 29, 1936 in Panama Canal Zone.


Jorge Larco






favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 03/04/2008
Moderator's Pick

HuffPost's Pick

Arianna, a Columbia University Economics professor noted yesterday on NPR that he has calculated the costs of the war and he feels it will be close to 7 trillion dollars once you take into account the hundreds of thousands of injured that need to be taken care, some forever, war reparations and of course the cost of paying and replacing all the armament that has been lost or no longer usable. Americans are not outraged because they fail to comprehend the inmensity of the costs and as long as Bush keeps on borrowing from the Chinese and not asking Americans to pay now we don't seem to care.

The professor thinks and I agree with his assestment that it will take several decades to pay assuming the Chinese don't decide to start collecting sooner than later, in which case this nation will suffer a catastrophic financial crisis.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 03/04/2008

The Greek philosophers in heaven are laughing down on us all... say it any way you like. The fact that George Bush keeps us trillions in debt sheds new meaning on man being dumber than ape.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 03/04/2008

Lets see, we are a country of over 3 hundred million people and we "let" a little over 5 hundred assholes do this to our nation..GO FIGURE!
Isn't a Republic GREAT?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 03/04/2008

Good work, Arianna. You know the media will not do its job in keeping the public informed. They too have a vested interested in the Iraq war, some more directly than others. That is why Huffington Post, the best blog in the sphere, is so essential. Please, do not let this issue be place on the "back burner." Thank you, thank you, thank you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 03/04/2008

Ditto

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 03/04/2008
Moderator's Pick

HuffPost's Pick

The Republicans always have been against safety nets for the poor and the middle class, like the Social security program, but they could not do away with these programs head on , so they gave themselves tax breaks and then spent the treasury dry so they can deny the safety nets , going around to the back door. A vote for another Republican, like Hillary ,will finish off the middle class.
She is in the pockets of the health care industry and wants to force everybody to buy from them.
Like the drug industry made the rules for the drug program and like the oil industry makes the rules for the energy program and like the banking industry destoyed the bankrupcy law and now Hillary wants the health care industry to screw us some more.
We should have health care, but not the way she wants to do it.
We should do away with the health insurance industry and do what Canada does, have the Government take care of us. Does they police call the insurance when you call them or does the fire department?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 03/04/2008

It's clear that we may not get what we want in Clinton, or Obama, but we CERTAINLY won't get what we want in mccain. With the democrat party candidates, we can push for universal health care which IS what we all want; whether some Americans have realized it yet or not. The only Americans that are opposed to universal ANYTHING are those that already have it. Oddly enough, these were the same Americans that got a tax credit, and the same Americans that want war yet refuse to send their own children there. What we should do (that is precisely what they are afraid of) is take that 3 trillion back from the people that have sucked America dry and put it back into our own domestic infrastructure ala the public works movement that helped us out of the great depression. If we are going to stay a fractured nation between the haves and the have-nots, I want the haves to fund their own killing sprees with their money and blood.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 03/05/2008