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Teacher Pay Study Asks the Wrong Question, Ignores Facts, Insults Teachers

Posted: 11/09/11 05:17 PM ET

As millions of Americans search for work, and millions more scrape by to make ends meet, researchers affiliated with two Washington think tanks -- the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation -- have recently announced a "finding" that defies common-sense: America's teachers are overpaid by more than 50 percent.

The new paper from Jason Richwine and Andrew Biggs fails on several levels. First, it asks the wrong question. Second, it ignores facts that conflict with its conclusions. Lastly, it insults teachers and demeans the profession.

Instead of asking whether teachers are overpaid, Richwine and Biggs should have asked what it would take to recruit and retain highly effective teachers for all students. Surveys show that many talented and committed young people are reluctant to enter teaching for the long haul because they think the profession is low-paying and not prestigious enough.

McKinsey & Co. did a study (PDF) last year comparing the U.S. to other countries and found that America's average current teacher salaries -- starting around $35,000 and topping out at an average of $65,000 -- were set far too low to attract and retain top talent.

The McKinsey report found that starting teacher salaries have not kept pace with other fields. In 1970, beginning New York City lawyers earned $2,000 more than first-year teachers. Today, a starting lawyer there can earn three or four times as much as a beginning teacher.

Money is not the reason that people enter teaching. But it is a reason why some talented people avoid teaching--or quit the profession when starting a family or buying a home. Other high-performing nations recruit teachers from the top third of college graduates. That must be our goal as well, and compensation is one critical factor. To encourage more top-caliber students to choose teaching, teachers should be paid a lot more, with starting salaries more in the range of $60,000 and potential earnings of as much as $150,000.

Great teachers stand at the summit of one of the hardest, most challenging, and most consequential professions for our children and the country's future economic prosperity. They deserve our respect and should be well-remunerated. Nevertheless, through tortured analysis, and in some instances a disregard of their own data, the authors of this new study reach a predictably contrary conclusion.

Traditionally, economists have analyzed teacher pay the same way they analyze pay in other professions--they have compared the pay of teachers to workers with similar education and work experience. Like many before them, Richwine and Biggs found that teachers did indeed receive lower pay than similarly educated workers -- almost 20 percent lower.

I agree that educational credentials are not the best measures of teacher effectiveness -- but the researchers go on to assert that teachers should not be compared to workers with similar educational credentials because teachers do not score as well on the Armed Forces Qualifications Test. Setting aside the fact that the AFQT does not measure teacher effectiveness, it is insulting and demeaning to argue that teachers are not smart enough to receive market compensation comparable to their peers based on the results of a test that most of them took as teenagers.

The researchers also ignored a chart in their own paper showing that teachers have similar overall benefit packages to private employees. Unhappy with those findings, they then exaggerated the value of teacher compensation by comparing the retirement benefits of the small minority of teachers who stay in the classroom for 30 years, rather than comparing the pension benefits for the typical teacher to their peers in other professions.

Finally, they appeared to create out of thin air an 8.6 percent "job security" salary premium for teachers -- despite the fact that hundreds of thousands of education jobs were lost in the recession and teachers continue to face layoffs.

By the end of this decade, more than half of America's 3.2 million teachers are expected to retire. That demographic shift presents a stiff challenge and a special opportunity. States, districts, and schools have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to modernize the teaching profession and expand the talent pool. But doing so will require dramatic change in the way we recruit, train, support, evaluate, and compensate teachers.

I agree with Richwine and Biggs on one point. If teachers are to be recognized and compensated as professionals, states and school districts must shift away from a blue-collar assembly line model of compensation--and do more to reward effectiveness and performance in the classroom. A performance-based compensation model will enable great teachers to earn more, justify higher salaries, and raise the stature of the profession.

Americans need and deserve an honest, open debate about the teaching profession, framed by evidence, not ideologically-tilted studies like this one. The debate in Washington today should be about how to judiciously invest in education. How can we best modernize schools with crumbling infrastructure so they can teach 21st century skills? How can we keep teachers in classrooms, instead of on unemployment lines? And yes--even when budgets are tight--how can we make teaching a more attractive career and elevate the profession?

The answer to these questions cannot be to cut teacher pay and put tens of thousands of teachers out of work. Even in a time of fiscal austerity, education is more than just an expense. It's an investment in the future.

Arne Duncan is the U.S. Secretary of Education

This post was updated on November 10, to more accurately reflect the authors of the study.

 

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09:40 AM on 11/18/2011
Amen. I have a masters degree in Education and yet have chosen to teach in Asia because the pay in the US is too low. As I consider returning to live in the US, I realize that although I've taught for 13 years, have presented at international conferences and published articles on teaching, my pay in the US would be quite low. Thus should I return to the US I will change careers. If the salaries were on par with other professions, I'd remain in the field.
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blindsquirl
Compliance is not a virtue
10:39 PM on 11/14/2011
Teachers are like cops...they defend the incompentent with the same gusto as the BEST performers.
Most teachers are lib arts majors because they are not focused or inspired by anything else other than getting a BA or MRS degree.
Most go into teaching to supplement household income or to escape boredom at home.
Some go into teaching because they are inspired to do so but lack the talent to be a "teacher".
There are those who ARE UNDERPAID (because of the failings of the other 2 groups), who possess both the desire and the skill to be effective AND inspirational.
This explains the great outcry (from most) when threatened with competency tests.
All our education system needs is MORE GOOD TEACHERS and far LESS emphasis on compliance and a strictly regimented curriculum.
The true measure of a TEACHER is the person who can get the INTEREST of their students and when the talking is over, the students have LEARNED something because they were engaged and have been LED to an UNDERSTANDING of the content.

"Beu ler.........Bue ler.....Bueler.....?".
11:58 PM on 11/14/2011
Could you answer the questions i ask below?
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01:12 AM on 11/15/2011
Francisco...the best reply I can come-up with, in response to your questions is:
Not only are our schools failing us, our politicians are the products of that failed system and therefor lack the education and/or the intelligence to deal effectivly with these problems and their own inconsistancy.
11:36 AM on 11/17/2011
I agree!
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08:33 PM on 11/14/2011
Public school teacher pay is in line with that of other college graduates in similar professions. Accountants, for example, make a similar rate of pay. However, I think that the problem is that many bright college kids are not interested in an education degree, because it requires a huge number of inane, useless courses that seem to be set at the level of junior high standards. The hoops are numerous but low to the ground. The only hope is to break the stranglehold the NEA has over the education system. Anyone with a college degree, in any subject, should be allowed to apply. Pay can be merit based, with top performers earning six figures. And you can be fired at any time, just like any other job. (or any other private school teacher) The reason teachers don't want this is because many of them are simply not good enough to cut it, and the know it. A few real stars quickly lose faith in the system and move on to other fields. There are many other things wrong with the system, but the main one is what I just said:

The hoops are too numerous and low to the ground.
09:07 PM on 11/14/2011
I have a few questions i hope someone could answer them:
1) Equity Project charter schools pay their teachers 125,000 dollars per year and they can be fired any time but only 31% of the students at this school pass the new york standardiz­­­­­­ed tests, why if this school is supposed to get the best teachers money can buy?
Link: http://pro­­­jects.ny­t­i­mes.co­m/­ne­w-yo­rk-­sch­oo­ls-t­est-­­score­s/co­u­ntie­s/n­ew-­yor­k/­distr­ic­t­s/new-y­o­­rk-city-d­­­istrict-6­/­­schools­/t­h­e-equ­ity­-p­roj­ect-­cha­r­ter-s­choo­­l
2) Why KIPP and SUCCESS charter schools suspend almost half it's students?, if they hire the good teachers and fire the bad ones suspension­­­­­­s are not supposed to happen in charter schools, period!
Link: http://www­­­­­­.exam­i­n­e­r­.­­co­m/­ch­a­r­t­e­r­-s­c­ho­o­ls­­-­in­­-was­­­hing­­­t­on-­d­c­/k­i­p­p­-a­d­­mit­s-­t­­­o-h­ig­h­­­-stu­de­n­­­­t-attri­­t­­­­ion-­rat­es
http://art­­­­­­icles­.­b­a­l­t­­im­or­es­u­n­.­c­o­m/­2­01­1­-0­­3­-3­­1/ne­­­ws/b­­­s­-md­-­k­ip­p­-­s­tu­d­­y-2­01­1­­­033­1_­1­­­_kip­p-­s­­­­chools-­­k­­­­ipp-­uji­ma­­­­­-vil­lag­e­-­a­­­cade­­my-­w­e­s­­t­ern-­­m­ic­h­i­g­a­n­-rep­­o­­rt
3) If good teachers are supposed to being capable of teaching any kind of students and charters schools are center of educationa­­­­­­l innovation , why they reject special education students?
Link http://www­­­­­­.nyti­m­e­s­.­c­­om­/2­01­1­/­0­7­/­11­/­ny­r­eg­­i­on­­/cha­­­rter­­­-­sch­o­o­l-­s­e­n­ds­-­­mes­sa­g­­­e-t­hr­i­­­ve-o­r-­t­­­­ransfer­­.­­­­html­?pa­ge­­­­­want­ed=­a­l­l
4) If politician­­­­­­s complain that bad teachers hurt students, why they do not complain when special education students are rejected by charter schools?
Link: http://www­­­­­­.splc­e­n­t­e­r­­.o­rg­/g­e­t­-­i­n­fo­r­me­d­/n­­e­ws­­/spl­­­c-co­­­m­pla­i­n­t-­c­h­i­ld­r­­en-­wi­t­­­h-d­is­a­­­bili­ti­e­­­­s-face-­­d­­­­iscr­imi­na­­­­­tion­-in­-­n­e­­­w-or­­lea­n­s­-­­s­choo­­l
02:04 PM on 11/14/2011
Thank you so much for this article. When i read that recent study it made me sick to my stomach. I come from a long line of teachers and everything in that study just made me want to cry. If people only knew just how much teachers have to do, how many hours and hours of work they put in, how much money comes out of pocket, and some of the terrible things they have to deal with. And to top it off, they really dont make all that much money. Your article points out just how flawed that study was, and I for one, appreciate you bringing that to light.
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10:55 PM on 11/13/2011
I am a teacher. I would like for anyone who thinks that teachers are overpaid to take my schedule for a week or two and then see what you think. It's not easy and we are not overpaid. I make 52K with 25 years experience.
10:14 PM on 11/13/2011
PART TWO

I retired from the private sector last August, age 63, after 20 years in private industry.

Pension:$10,689/month ($128,268/year).
401k: $300k+,

Fully paid lifetime benefits for two and SS in 3 years, ($2k/month) as well.

Private sector work: Much easier and less time consuming than teaching. Weekends off....and far less stress.

She will get 75% + benes for the rest of her life should I die first.

As a teacher, after 40 years I would be making $75,828 in salary and now a pension of $60,006. Medicare but no SS.

To those who think teachers are overpaid or that their pay is comparable or even higher than private sector jobs requiring similar schooling and training and credentials, I say
"Ptui !!!!!

I have been fortunate but I am not an exception. 50% of teachers leave teaching for the private sector within the first 5 years.

When my eldest graduated in 1993, he wanted to become a teacher. He would have been a great teacher. I encouraged him.

However, he took a corporate job at $32k, intending to get his teaching credential at night. But he rose steadily through the management ranks and at the age of 41 he makes more than $340,000. No Master's, no MBA.

We lost a good teacher because we could not compete with the private sector.

So, are teacher salaries comparable to or higher than private sector salaries? Nein, nein, nein!

NEXT: salary perspectives
01:54 AM on 11/14/2011
PART ONE

I wrote a couple of days ago that I was not a teacher or a retired teacher.

What I left out was that I WAS a teacher for 20 years.

I started teaching in 1972 in California. My salary: $6,800 3 coaching stipends.

Benefits: Medical only. For me. I had to pay for my wife and two children to be covered.

I worked 28 hours a week in a liquor store in downtown Oakland. Full time summers..

I left teaching in 1992. Salary: after 20 years, $38,700.

I found a private sector job starting at $75,000. Nearly 2x my highest teacher salary. I loved every minute of teaching but I had one child in college and two very close. I wanted to help them.

To be continued…..
02:30 AM on 11/14/2011
OECD: Underpaid! We pay teachers much less compared to other countries.

The mission of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) is to promote policies that will improve the economic and social well-being of people around the world.

The OECD provides a forum in which governments can work together to share experiences and seek solutions to common problems. We work with governments to understand what drives economic, social and environmental change.

The Study: (2010) A little international perspective. This year, the OECD released a long report on ways to improve education worldwide. Part of it looked at teacher pay across different countries.

The Conclusions: Worldwide, teachers tend to make less than other college graduates. According to the OECD's findings, we pay our teachers about 60% of what their educational peers earn. That's way less akin to developed countries like Germany and Australia, where pay is closer to 90% less, and more in line with Italy, Poland, and Slovenia.
09:12 PM on 11/13/2011
Dear Mr. Duncan,

Just an idea: The granting of any four-year degree should require teaching time within the public k-12 structure. Kids would get more attention, college degree would have more meaning, graduates would have a shared experience of being in the trenches, of first-hand knowledge of the system in need of "change". Pay portions of their loans back based on teaching time. The authentic teachers may even stay.
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10:50 PM on 11/13/2011
tenspot:

You are fanned for an original idea. However, you will find, as I have, that teachers, at least those who blog on this site are absolutely, and adamently opposed to any changes in the structure of the public schools.

They have "flamed" me for suggesting that all elementary school provide free breatfast and lunch to all their students. Too much work. Too much change.

They have only three suggestions, which they repeat over and over again. Two are very fundamental. More Pay, No Accountability, and the third is less work.
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11:18 PM on 11/13/2011
That may not be such a hot idea. If I had experienced the inside of a classroom while still an undergrad, I would have changed my major. I only taught for a short while and it's been many years ago, but I know that if I couldn't take it then, I most certainly wouldn't be able to bear it now - I've seen the children of today. Unless you're some extremely idealistic person who actually likes ill mannered, screeching heathens, teaching is not a profession I would wish on anyone. Teachers should not only be paid substantially more, they should also get hazard pay.
11:42 PM on 11/13/2011
Sorry to burst your bubble, tenspot, but federal law accommodates needy students with breakfast and lunch. The work is for the cafeteria people. Are you suggesting that teachers make lunch and breakfast for 35 kids as well as teach all day? Your comment is just a bit too crazy for this teacher of 25 years to comprehend. I'm not sure what your idea of change is, but I can tell you this, the way people like you are bashing education, change is coming. That change will mean empty classrooms, because nobody wants this thankless job anymore.
11:50 AM on 11/14/2011
I don't know how it is across the country, but at least in Rhode Island "teachers in training" must teach in a public school and be evaluated before they can become certified. I would amend your idea and suggest significantly more time pre-teaching and less time on idealistic pedagogy that is often useless in real teaching situations. Unfortunately, from my own experience, it is difficult to find teachers and schools who are willing to take on un-certified, green teachers when districts across the country are worried about their bottom line, i.e. test scores. I had a very difficult time finding a school that would take me under its wing.

I think the real changes need to be made in how teachers are trained beyond going into the school as you suggest. I have a degree in English and Political science, I graduated Cum Laud. There is so much I don't know English, about literature, grammar, literary analysis, etc. I find that I am often forced to google answers. I have taken it into my own hands to educate myself in areas I feel I lack proficiency in, however, many of my classmates are not doing the same and I know they struggle in the same way I do. The education program should be addressing these issues.
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Brash and Harsh
01:05 PM on 11/14/2011
Msjriff:

You are speaking as an educated person. You are aware education in a field does not teach you everything, or even mostly everything in the subject.

It merely educates you as how to find the answer to a question to which you do not know the answer.

But you are speaking as an educated person. not a public school teacher. I suspect, horrors of horrors, that you are actually an intellectual!

The problem is not the teachers. The system is totally disfunctional, and is, objectively a failure.

There are so many families, and children in thos families that are FUBAR [Google the term], that a complete overhaul is required.

Close down 80% of the public day schools, and replace them with full service, neighborhood, voluntary boarding schools.

An idea totally unacceptable the educational industry. Therefore, any caring parent with think long and hard before putting their children in a public school.

Michelle and Barak Obama made the correct decision for their children.

Fanned for original thinking
11:44 AM on 11/17/2011
I agree with you Msjgriff!! There is to much time and money wasted on pedagogy and theory. More emphasis needs to be placed on pre-teaching, content, classroom management, and mentoring from good, proven classroom teachers.
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08:55 PM on 11/13/2011
I don't know about the American Enterprise Institute, but the Heritage Foundation starts out with an anti-teacher political bias.
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06:13 PM on 11/13/2011
I read that administrators and unionized educators were now making into the low 6 figures. I'd like to see a hotlink to a detailed wage and benefits breakdown, please, state by state. Education's one of our national sacred cows, just like 'defense', and the gravy train keeps a-rollin' along...and the people running it really don't care if you get taxed out of house and home either.
07:54 PM on 11/13/2011
so if it's such a gravy-train, why don't you buy a ticket? What's that? Not up for eight years of study, continuous professional development, and a stress level through the roof in exchange for a salary that makes a middle-class lifestyle a stretch?
DianaLynn1967
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04:51 PM on 11/25/2011
Although, at this point, most of us have salaries that make a middle-class lifestyle a stretch. But yeah, teaching is no gravy-train. Even a casual acquantanceship with teachers teaches that.
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08:03 PM on 11/13/2011
Can you provide a link so that my wife, who's taught for 15 years, manages several after-school programs for students, put in no less than 60 hrs each week, won countless teaching awards and is recognized by the community as having "saved" a large number of kids that had been written off by the administrators....can apply for a job in one of those districts that pay in the low sixes? I'd love to see her salary doubled or more.
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10:51 PM on 11/13/2011
nastywolf:

Too bad you don't have access to the internet. Or is it just that your wife doesn't believe in using the internet?
05:08 PM on 11/13/2011
Of course, studies like these are fodder for those who want to privatize education (as well as everything else). It amazes me that so many in the USA seem to enjoy demonizing and disparaging the teaching profession. Finland has some of the best education results in the world. In that country, teaching is a highly esteemed profession, and an education degree is one of the most difficult in which to be accepted. Our country is becoming increasingly regressive.
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thorolyfedup
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08:58 PM on 11/13/2011
These "studies" were written strictly for the purpose of supporting the privatization of education. Of course, nobody wants to admit that privatizing education will do nothing BUT create 6-figure incomes for teachers.
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03:52 PM on 11/13/2011
Classic example of far-right pseudo-science in which fake "studies" are done backwards, that is to say, starting from a foregone conclusion that matches their narrative, and then searching for "evidence" to support it.
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thorolyfedup
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08:59 PM on 11/13/2011
My statistician wife has a t-shirt that fits this perfectly -- "If at first you don't succeed, manipulate the data."
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Down the rabbit hole and through the looking glass
03:43 PM on 11/13/2011
"many talented and committed young people are reluctant to enter teaching for the long haul because they think the profession is low-paying and not prestigious enough."

This is the problem, isn't it? I mean, how are we supposed to have an educated populace if we do not value the ones teaching them? Oh...right. the current GOP and their rulers don't want an educated populace...makes us harder to fool.
05:23 PM on 11/13/2011
What I think we should do is pay all areas the same.Because it's no harder to understand/teach physics than government.And,we have equual supplies of all areas. Then,make sure there is no way to pay outstanding teachers more than mediocre ones. Have tenure stay in place rather than renewable 5 year contracts so teachers can have lifetime security.And,ignore evidenced based research. If we do these things,education will be outstanding and those 'parents' will quit selfishly sending their kids to charters.
It's so simple.
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thorolyfedup
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09:01 PM on 11/13/2011
Sounds like a good solution -- completely take away any and all motivation for anyone to ever want to become a teacher.
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02:47 PM on 11/13/2011
"By the end of this decade, more than half of America's 3.2 million teachers are expected to retire. That demographic shift presents a stiff challenge and a special opportunity. States, districts, and schools have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to modernize the teaching profession and expand the talent pool. But doing so will require dramatic change in the way we recruit, train, support, evaluate, and compensate teachers."

That being the case, what sense does it make to amputate and alienate the "next generation" of teaching prospects, all at the expense of the current tenured teacher's income? Budget are slashed. The corrective measure should NOT be to hack off the next generation, who will be KEY if the above statistic rings true (3.2 million retirements), so that current tenured teachers can keep the discretionary part of their salaries. We should be doing what we can to INCLUDE the young teachers, not only for future, but for the quality of education! Tenured teachers and their yearly family Disneyworld vacation fund be damned.
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thorolyfedup
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09:03 PM on 11/13/2011
My niece will graduate next month with a degree in special ed. When I asked her where she plans to go from here, she told me she has already made a deal to work for Target as a store manager. What does this say about the way our country treats its educators?
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01:06 AM on 11/14/2011
And assuming your niece is a good teacher... how sad is that?

We should actively seek out good teachers to employ and grow. We shouldn't have a system in place that basically disallows schools from even considering good candidates, simply because they haven't a certain seniority level. How utterly stupid is that?

For the record, I'm not in favor of dumping (senior) teachers based on age, or salary level. But to blindly employ everyone of a certain seniority level, just because they managed to make it that far... while totally ignoring the quality of their work, or the quality/potential of any new candidates... is the definition of futility.

This is the system that teachers support, BTW... take that as you will.
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02:28 PM on 11/13/2011
Mr. Duncan the right-wing has no indention of paying more to attract higher quality teachers or doing anything to improve public schools. Their goal is to destroy public education and replace it with publicly funded Christian schools. Since the mid-1970's the right has had 2 goals first to destroy the Soviet Union and then the make public education Christian. If the later was not possible then public education was to be destroyed and replaced by publicly funded Christian schools. But first teachers had to be shown as the bad guys and so far in the public eye this is working. Next will come Charter schools and those will be replaced by vouchers to religious schools and non-Christian schools need not apply. It may take several more years but the Republican base will continue to push push push and cut funding for schools.
03:06 PM on 11/13/2011
The base of the Republican Party wants private religious schools to replace public schooling. The rest of them want private schools period. The goal is to eliminate public education specifically to eliminate public funding on the theory that people who want their children educated should pay for it themselves. The initial stage is to convert to vouchers which won't cover the entire cost of a private school education. As time goes on, the goal is to eliminate the vouchers entirely.

What they actually want will result in an America which is firmly ensconced in the third world but they believe that won't happen because the poor will presumably go without food and shelter in order to pay for the education of their children. It's the usual right-wingnut survival-of-the-fittest regime which entirely rejects the concept that a successful society is one in which there is opportunity for everyone...one in which everyone has a stake and isn't just kicked to the curb because they aren't wealthy.
04:01 PM on 11/13/2011
You've got that right. I'll be curious to see if they allow vouchers if you can use them at a Muslim school.
02:18 PM on 11/13/2011
What if you simply underwrote every teachers' pay with another $100K from the Federal government. And raised taxes accordingly. Whatever each teacher is paid today, add another $100K to it. And give it to them tax free. Just tax everyone else to pay for it. It's a win win for everyone.
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thorolyfedup
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09:06 PM on 11/13/2011
Aside from being totally asinine, what's your point?