Who Will Stop Bush's Doomsday?

Posted November 8, 2007 | 10:27 AM (EST)



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It was just before Halloween that President Bush trotted out the specter of World War III. Somehow, his remark that "if you're interested in avoiding World War III, it seems like you ought to be interested in preventing [Iran] from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon" was more in the spirit of the holiday than he probably intended. It was certainly scarier than any costume or haunted house.

If he wants to play war games, let's do it. Undoubtedly, there are dozens of people around Washington playing scenarios, so we might as well join in. Consider this one version of the Bush Doomsday Scenario.

In the not-too-distant future, there will be a large attack on U.S. forces in Iraq or Afghanistan. It will probably be a bomb, or multiple bombs. Casualties will be many, and it will be messy. Evidence will be discovered in the carnage that the weapons came from Iran. This isn't new, as the Bush administration has made the allegation before. But now, with the increased damage, Bush, Vice President Cheney, and congressional Republicans step up the rhetoric.

"My duty is to protect Americans," the president will say. "Iran is a danger to us all. They are endangering out troops. Their desire to have nuclear weapons endangers the world." He will trot out Secretary of State Rice to warn the Iranian government to open their borders to permit inspectors or face the consequences. She earnestly wishes for "productive diplomacy." Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad rejects the American requests.

The rest of the world starts to get nervous. Crude oil prices start to rise to $110, $125, $130, in anticipation of a U.S. strike. Gas at the pump reaches $5.50 per gallon. Layoffs ensue, the recession picks up.

The president will come on TV to announce that he has new evidence of Iranian involvement in Iraq and in Afghanistan, and that he believes the government is on the way to acquiring nuclear weapons. He orders a "surgical strike" at suspected development facilities as a warning to Iran.

Iran, a country four times the size of Iraq, with a population of about 69 million, retaliates. It has an army of about 345,000, or about twice the force size of what we have in Iraq. Iran conducts a massive counter-attack across the Iraqi border, coordinating with Shi'a militia inside Iraq. U.S. troops and the private security guards take heavy casualties as their undermanned positions are overrun. Even the Halliburton cooks are given rifles, although they are useless as soldiers. The butcher's bill is steep.

The president will come on TV again, this time to report the grievous losses of our troops, to blame the tragedy on Iran and to say we must renew our commitment to fighting the global war on terror, and orders more strikes into Iran and more troops to the region.

There is no limit in sight to the rise in oil prices, our people are getting killed and the economy is plunged into free fall. The Middle East is aflame. Israel is on alert, Pakistan descends farther into chaos.

Freeze frame. It's easy enough to continue developing the scenario, but here's the key question, asked in all seriousness. What is to keep this from happening? You have a president with a messianic complex and a vice president who hungers for power and control. They get their way at every turn using their toxic, but effective, brew of patriotism and fear.

Would Congress do it? How many senators or representatives would be bold enough to step in and say that we escalated the war and it's time to leave before the disaster is total? Maybe a bare majority of Senate Democrats, and even that's in question. What is not in question is that Republicans won't. They and Joe Lieberman will stick by their president and will speechify that "islamofascism," whatever that is, must be stopped by any means and our troops must be avenged. Republican senators would block any efforts to cut off funds or otherwise withdraw our troops. Republican presidential candidates would chime in with the same tune.

Democrats can't stop a war by themselves. They haven't so far. In this admittedly pessimistic scenario, what would the Democrats, particularly the Bush Dogs who supported the Iraq war down the line, do as the country plunges into turmoil? What would the "moderates" do? Would they try to stop a war, or, more likely, would they be afraid of being seen as weak and not "supporting our troops," -- of abandoning the country in its hour of need? A Congress, which continually kneels before a president who has a 24 percent approval rating, deserves its own 11 percent approval rating.

Will any Democratic presidential candidates, particularly the leading ones, have the fortitude to say it's time to take a strategic retreat, or will they defend the spending of more human lives? Or would most of them find justifications for the conflict as our country and the world economy deteriorate?

We all hope none of this comes to pass. But it's worth taking a few minutes to think about.


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What we have is a very basic kick-back scheme.

The politicians direct public funds into the pockets of the corporations, and a certain per centage goes back to "our elected representatives" in the form of "campaign contributions."
It will take a genius to figure out how to break that(very vicious)cycle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 11/09/2007

Bush does not have the attention span for peace negotiations. He likes war, as does Cheney. He likes referring to himself as Commander-in-Chief. It has a certain authoritative ring to it. Americans will be lucky if we get to elections without a strike on Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 11/09/2007

Why do y'all dislike wars so much?
Don't you want to support the WAR PROFITEERING NANNY STATE FOR THE RICH that's Bush-Cheney's mission accomplished??

What, you don't want CORPORATE WELFARE QUEENS shoveling all your tax money out of the USTreasury?

How unpatriotic of you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 AM on 11/09/2007

Has the Fascist Criminal Enterprise of Bush/Cheney received their thank you letters from the oil companies, large investors and oil producing countries for Bush's verbal attack on Iran about WW III. Yes indeed, the Bush verbosity has helped increase the price of oil for a lot of Cheney Bush's criminal cronies. He has basically said "F-U to the consumers"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 11/08/2007

Your situation is ridiculous. Inventing a sudden "attack" on US forces? Are you saying that we're going to murder our own soldiers to attack Iran?

Then, Iran overrunning the US in Iraq has got to be the laugh of the century. Wars aren't fought like WWII anymore, where there's lines and foot soldiers. Iran has an OK military, but they wouldn't fare so well against Nato forces. Iran would be conquered in under a year, with heavy losses, but not the meat grinder fest that you described above.

This "Doomsday" is nothing more than a hoax perpetuated by fear-mongers who want us to believe that Bush is some Satan-like entity. When will you stop believing the internet hype, and realize that Bush is just a terrible President, and nothing more. He knows that an Iran attack would be political suicide, and they're not going to create some massive conspiracy to get around this.

An evil regime devout of morals we are not. Your situation is excellent book material, but not possible in real life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 11/08/2007

Well, how do you feel about growing stuff, like
sugar cane? Can your hands tolerate the blisters
and stuff? The lesson here, I think, is Brazil.
WAaaaaaay back the FIRST time OPEC tried to
screw us, Brazil said 'skip YOU', and started
making their OWN fuel out of booze. Smart
people, those brazilians, probably pretty fun
to hang out with, on a Saturday night, too.
We did something differenter. Japan rode to
the rescue with higher MPG cars, and Detroit...
well, they made something called a Gremlin,
and a Pinto, and some other completely hideous
yet somewhat fuel-efficient cars, and the
Hitler-wagon, the VW bug, carried millions
to their destinations for years without complaint. But, long about the mid-80's those
automakers and their oilboy shareholders
realized that Something Was Wrong, these little
fuel-sippers just weren't ramping up the old
GDP, there, so back came the v-8's. Also,
trying to climb hills in a gutless wonder
with a Peterbilt riding your ass really isn't
the most fulfilling life experience you could
ever ask for, so More Power was decreed. By
1990, we started back toward Muscle Cars,
autos that could get all jiggy with the 0-60
time, and DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAG RACING!
started to come back into vogue. By '95
all those eco-hippie-commie wagons were
leaving the road because they couldn't keep
up with the steadily increasing average
highway speeds, and the econo-makers shifted
toward PERFORMANCE. Fuel mileage dropped,
speed and GVW went up, and the price of a gallon
of gas valiantly hung on at about a buck-twenty
or so.

This oil crap has gone on long enough
and it's time for some of our university types
to stop playing political science, and get
into the actual science of how to make a car
consistently get 35-45MPG. and then do it
again minus the gasoline completely. At that
point, they can charge 18 penzillion dollars
a quart for their crap, and no one will care.
Doomsday? Nah. New Day In America? Yep-pers...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 11/08/2007

I used to hate listening to bush speak; it has been painful hearing his stumblings and fake texas accent. Now I have grown to love it. Why? I just finished reading Wm. Shirer's "The terrible years 1930-1940." If bush had half the charisma and spellbinding speaking ablity of Hitler, we would already be into WW III and millions more would be dead. I still cannot listen to bush speak, but now at least I appreciate his inability to articulate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 11/08/2007

The vital question is: What did George W. Bush have going for him when he entered the Oval Office? A sketchy resume of drilling Texas dry holes, and a lackluster trek through the Texas statehouse, where he arrived to a black surplus and left a black hole behind when he was catapulted into the White House. No leadership experience. No foreign affairs experience. No budgetary restraint experience. But plenty of cocky frat house piss and vinegar; a complete lack of interest in world affairs and the inability to read a TelePrompTer without stumbling over the English language. The man has learned nothing during his tenancy, is as intellectually anorexic as the day he left college. And this is the leader the country and the world expects the bring about peace and stability? An old Russian proverb says that a country without a czar is like a village without an idiot. We lucked in in spades.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 11/08/2007

You people continue on and on about impeachment. How about asking for the tooth fairy to leave 1 million dollars under your pillow. They have the same likelihood. The definition of insanity is expecting different results from the same repeated action. Well, your leaders are insane if they expect a different result other than a larger Iraq type mess when they ambush Iran.

And you people are equally insane if you think writing "Impeach, impeach" every day will make it so. Your Congress is unwilling and/or incapable of doing so. The "powers that be" running your country do not read, nor care, what is posted on sites like Huffington Post.

You will have to explore other options to remove the madmen from power.
But you won't. We know that American courage was replaced by American greed and ignorance long ago. Any country that creates shows like American Idol that score such high ratings is too far gone to survive.

Only problem is you will take half the planet with you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 11/08/2007

You should have taken the consequences beyond the freeze frame. The first thing the Iranians will do is sink a few ships in the Straits of Hormuz, and no oil tankers will jmanage to pass. Guess what, folks....no oil. Then their allies in Hezbollah and other groups will have their people in the US set loose suicide bombers in our shopping malls and crowded cities. Russia, in opposition of the attack on Iran, will surreptitiously sell or give them a couple suitcase nukes to be used to take the war to the US.

You know, I really don't want to see that happen. I think Iran, like Europe, is pursing atomic energy. We don't really realize this, but Europe is heavily dependent on nuclear power. I think Iran is looking forward to the time that their oil wealth starts to seriously diminish, and then what?

If you read the Tom Friedman book, The World Is Flat, his point that vast oilfields are more a curse than a benefit to a country, for various reasons. Little other industry develops....quick, name some products that you buy that are made in any oil-rich nation....give up? Maybe some textiles from Indonesia, but I can't really think of much else.

So, point made, I hope?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 11/08/2007

Impeachment is the only way to slow this cabal down PLEASE,I am begging now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 11/08/2007

WHEN GEORGE W. BUSH TALKS ABOUT ***AVOIDING*** WWIII...

Given his record of truth-telling, I start getting VERY nervous, figuring he probably means exactly the opposite of what he's saying and is really looking to START WWIII....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 11/08/2007

"Freeze frame. It's easy enough to continue developing the scenario, but here's the key question, asked in all seriousness. What is to keep this from happening? . . . ."

I usually don't like to answer a question with another question. But exactly what are the alternatives?

The administration is criticized from put together a plan of attack to prevent Iran from going 'nuclear'. But the administration was criticized in Iraq for not planning after toppling the government. So is planning for every possible scenario prudent and acceptable or not?

If we abandon the contingency of attacking Iran then what? Nothing changes on the ground and they continue to interfere in Iraq costing lives, both innocent and military. I was in college when the Iranian hostage 'crisis' occurred. Believe me when I say that I have absolutely no skepticism about Iran operating inside Iraq to our detriment. For me I would need dead-bang proof that Iran is not doing what has been reported.

My guess is that neither of our questions will be resolved to our satisfaction. Just as Iraq was no Afghanistan, Iran is no Iraq. Personally I would prefer being ready and, hopefully, not needing to use the plans. Does anyone really think that not having a plan would prevent this administration from attacking Iran?

If, and only if, we should need to prevent Iran from going 'nuclear' I'd rather do it right, have a plan, and minimize casualties all around (us and them).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 11/08/2007

In a few years, these wars between religious factions will be a part of the American dream right here with, perhaps 15 or so states to the West, belonging to China. The rest will be waiting for some sort of rapture as was prophethized back in the 1800's by someone, with too much time on his hands and a very narrow imagination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 11/08/2007

I think that this, more-or-less, is the neo-fascists' "wet dream." A huge military confrontation. Just the sort of huge military thing that their huge military machine is supposed to be geared-up to fight; not this messy business of bombs going off in the street.

To think that (say) Iran's response would be this kind of military nonsense, however, is short sighted. What if, instead, the government of Iran simply stated that from this day forward oil must be bought and sold in Euros, and that trades executed in New York would no longer be accepted or honored?

All of America's warships now in port, many of whom still burn oil, would be sent out to sea and would no longer be allowed to refuel anywhere in Arabia.

What if Chinese businessmen grew nervous about their expensive container-ships, and ordered them all to leave the Port of New York, of Los Angeles, of Houston and everywhere-else that Wal-Mart goods now come from, and to go home? Peacefully?

Just a good business decision, you know, and under these conditions, an entirely sensible one. By the way, your Wal-Marts are now devoid of merchandise.

Being one of America's biggest stockholders, these same businessmen decide to sell about 300 or 400 million shares of "everything," all in one hour's time. Ooh, how prices fall! By the way, your stock market just crashed. But once again, under present circumstances, a sensible business decision.

What if, in other words, America tried to start World War III, and the World =didn't= play along?

"Think outside the 'bang!'"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 11/08/2007

The lunatic and Mephistopheles are planning their next move. The Democrats are doing nothing. The Republicans are in denial.
The electorate is fat and cozy. The Media is morally bankrupt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 11/08/2007

"Freeze frame. It's easy enough to continue developing the scenario, but here's the key question, asked in all seriousness. What is to keep this from happening? . . . ."

IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT IMPEACHMENT

Support Dennis Kucinich.



    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 11/08/2007

Since Bush has never faced the consequences of his actions, his ability to foresee the resultant disasters of his many plots never enters his mind.
That Congress is blind to all consequences too, one has to wonder what they're pumping into the air that erases their conscience with such consistency.
Who is going to STOP these maniacs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 11/08/2007

Who will stop Bush's Doomsday?

Dennis Kucinich.

Who will stop Dennis Kucinich?

Mass media including Huffpo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 11/08/2007

When it became apparent to the German military where their madman was leading them, they had the courage to attempt an assasination. I wonder how far our military leadership will allow our madman to go before they take action to save their military and their nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 PM on 11/08/2007

You speak to the very nightmare I have of what this one man with the power given freely to him can do without a joint action in congress. I fail to see what it is that keeps the republicans voting time after time to keep Bush and his ax with our blood on it chopping away at the very constitution they agreed to protect. What is this beyond self service?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 11/08/2007

And the value of the dollar will decline so far that shoppers will go to the grocery store with a wheelbarrow full of cash to buy a loaf of bread.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 11/08/2007

In his article "Terrorized by 'War of Terror' - How a Three-word Mantra Has Undermined America," published at the Washingtonpost.com on March 25, 2007, Zbibniew Brezinski, national security adviser to President Jimmy Carter points out that the War of Terror has created a culture of fear in America. The GWOT is a national mantra that has a pernicious impact on American democracy, psyche, and standing in the world. In fact, it has undermined our ability to confront the real challenges we face from fanatics who use terrorism against us.

He cites the vagueness of the phrase so as to stimulate the emergence of a culture of fear. Terror he says is a technique of warfare. The phrase itself is meaningless but intentionally calculated by its sponsors so that the fear can be drummed in to our heads. Demagogues, i.e., "politicians" mobilize the public behind policies they wish to pursue. Unlike, the Nazis or the former Soviet Union, the threat of terrorism is not on the same order of magnitude yet it consumes our every thought and half of all discretionary spending of tax dollars. Plus the concept of perpetual war allows the curtailment of civil liberties.

The attack on Iraq will be followed by an attack on Iran, says he. President Bush absurdly claims that they will cross the Atlantic. Security entrepreneurs, the mass media, and the MIC are the only beneficiaries.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 11/08/2007

Smaller cross Iraq-Iranian border attacks in the name of force protection will precede the larger attack that kicks this whole nightmare off. We've already built a huge base 7 km from the Iranian border named Combat Outpost Shocker to interdict weapon smuggling.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2007/09/mil-070928-rferl01.htm

Wouldn't take much for the CIA and their off-the-books contractors in dark glasses to stir things up there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 11/08/2007

I've always wondered why, in 1930's Germany, a large modern and educated population did not recognize what Hitler was doing and stop him. Somehow he was able to ignite a global conflagration that resulted in the deaths of 60-million people and his people let him. It was a progression that took over a decade should not have come as a surprise to anyone. There had to be supporters, as well as those who were simply duped in to believing the government was acting in their best interests and, like the proverbial frog in boiling water, no one noticed until it was too late.

If we could look at ourselves from the viewpoint of the year 2000, what would the America of 2000 think of the America of 2007. I think aghast would be an understatement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 11/08/2007
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