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Wishful Thinking for a Hillary Clinton Presidency Is Based On Faulty Premises

Posted: 11/23/11 03:02 PM ET

It's November, so that means this year's annual Doug Schoen and Patrick Caddell op-ed calling for President Obama to step aside in favor of Hillary Clinton is upon us. Write Schoen and Caddell in, this time around, the Wall Street Journal:

Not only is Mrs. Clinton better positioned to win in 2012 than Mr. Obama, but she is better positioned to govern if she does. Given her strong public support, she has the ability to step above partisan politics, reach out to Republicans, change the dialogue, and break the gridlock in Washington. [...] If President Obama is not willing to seize the moral high ground and step aside, then the two Democratic leaders in Congress, Sen. Harry Reid and Rep. Nancy Pelosi, must urge the president not to seek re-election -- for the good of the party and most of all for the good of the country. And they must present the only clear alternative -- Hillary Clinton.

Schoen and Caddell are easily dismissed. The two pollsters, who write as self-described "patriots and Democrats," can more frequently be seen concern-trolling on Fox News than anywhere else. But the idea that Hillary Clinton represents some sort of liberal, Democratic savior is one that has currency. In late October, Time magazine touched off cries of "buyer's remorse" by including the Secretary of State's name in a poll of potential 2012 matchups. During last summer's debt-ceiling negotiations, complaints that Clinton would have been a "more effective negotiator" or was "tougher" than the President frequently cropped up in left-wing media.

The combination of nostalgia and wishful thinking that elevates Hillary Clinton to the status of would-be liberal lion is perplexing. For all of Clinton's success at the State Department, the chaos and lack of discipline surrounding her failed 2008 campaign suggest a leader who would not have been without her own faults.

There is no reason, for example, to assume that Mark Penn, Clinton's pre-eminent 2008 strategist, would not have had a role in a Clinton administration. Liberals who "want to see a blood on the floor" and pine for a president who will stand up to his critics would have been horrified by a White House major domo urging total capitulation on tax policy. "[T]he people who vote on taxes are the people who pay them," Penn reminded the National Journal's Ronald Brownstein earlier this month, registering his fear that the sort of harsh economic talk liberals crave might turn the upper middle class against the Democratic brand.

Indeed, it is worth keeping in mind that the most frequent targets of progressive fury within the Obama administration have been the holdovers from Bill Clinton's White House. Ron Suskind's "Confidence Men: Wall Street, Washington, and the Education of a President," published in September, detailed the role Robert Rubin, a former Clinton treasury secretary, Larry Summers, recently the chairman of the National Economic Council and Bill Clinton's last treasury secretary, and Rahm Emanuel, Obama's former chief of staff and a former Clinton staffer, played in frustrating major financial reforms in 2009. In a poignant moment, the book details North Dakota Sen. Byron Dorgan's December 2008 complaint to Obama that "[y]ou've picked the wrong people!" Does anyone doubt that Summers, Emanuel and Rubin would have been prominent actors in a Hillary Clinton administration?

Much of the pining for Hillary Clinton seems to be premised on mis-targeted liberal nostalgia for a version of Bill Clinton's presidency that never happened. Writing for New York Magazine, Jon Chait points out that President Clinton responded to the same general challenge Obama has faced -- an intransigent Republican Congress -- by pursuing right-of-center goals such as welfare reform, a crime bill and NAFTA and giving up the fight on health-care reform and inclusion of gays in the military.

This is not to say that Hillary Clinton could not have been an excellent president. The State Department has been a relative model of achievement and efficiency under her leadership, and her success during her tenure as a senator from New York suggests a genuine ability to negotiate the tricky halls of Congress. There is no reason to believe, however, that the challenges that have plagued and at times overwhelmed the Obama administration would not have deviled a Hillary Clinton presidency. And there is certainly no reason to think that President Hillary Clinton would have shed herself of the same advisers she has relied on for years, and who are responsible for so much of the incoherence of Obama's first-term financial policy.

 
 
 
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Grechen Allen
06:12 AM on 11/29/2011
She would have been a better president than Obama. If she ran now, if Obama stepped aside she would lose because it would show weakness int he Democratic Party.

If you believe only the advisers from the Clinton era are to blame for the failures of Obamas white house, than maybe you can agree with this article. However, the fact is that Obama ran on Hope, what kind of political campaign is that? He is a populist, he never really stood for anything, that is exactly why he faltered so much. In recent weeks he has gotten bolder with his words, but thats has always been his M.O. He can say it, he never does it.
09:22 PM on 11/26/2011
Ron Paul should cross file.
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Charles Queen
I am a disabled nam vet
07:39 PM on 11/23/2011
No,she won't be running.Yes I am not a big fan of her,never have been since the savings and loan scandals took place and she walked away free and unscathed even though she played the most important role of ripping off coultelss amounts of people of millions of dollars.Billy boy seen to it that she didn't get nailed and the money never surfaced.Then there's the long line of body's they left in their wake while in the wh as well.If I had my way she wouldn't be where she is now,but hey,thats just me and I respect everyones opinions and all about her
05:59 PM on 11/23/2011
I agree that Reid and Pelosi should and must urge President Obama not to re -seek the election or step down for the good of the Nation . It was obvious ever attempt and all his policies didn't work at all. Such a waste of time to let the same drama continue for another four years. Please think global.
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07:51 AM on 11/25/2011
I think the nation would be better off if Reid and Pelosi didn't seek re-election to leadership posts, or even to their respective seats in the Senate and the House. They are not leaders but have been installed by the profiteering corporations to make noise and then assure that NOTHING changes in DC. They are skilled at protecting the status quo for the greedy 1%, not serving the interests of the nation, average citizens, employees, investors, voters, consumers.

We need bold, creative, collaborative leaders who have the skills to persuade or bully majorities to SOLVE problems.
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Grechen Allen
06:14 AM on 11/29/2011
Its a congress thing...the majority are millionaires on both ides of the aisle.
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Bisharama
04:48 PM on 11/23/2011
I would vote for Sec Clinton in a New York minute. Times are tough. We can't afford to have anyone but the very best and most qualified leading us.
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08:06 AM on 11/25/2011
You had your chance to vote for her, as did the rest of the nation and 15 million or so did it in the Democratic primaries and caucuses. Hillary just didn't have sufficient support at the ballot boxes, in the caucuses or financially to win.

Even with multi-millions from her ill-gotten private fortune, her lack of leadership resulted in defeat. Hillary had more advantages than any political candidate in history: a highly experienced, hand picked, "dream team" of staff and advisors, a huge war chest and fleet of bundlers, a private mega million dollar personal fortune to use when her supporters failed her, a media drum beat of "inevitablility," and the unprecedented resource of a former, popular Democratic president campaigning for her full time in the primariies. Yet, as voters saw and heard her, really got to know her and her stands on issues, more and more said "no thanks."

I hope Hillary will resign soon, announce her candidacy in 2012, loan herself another $50 million or so she can re-assemble her fiercely loyal, ineffective and back-biting and hugely expensive "dream team" and lead another failed campaign.
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Bisharama
12:36 AM on 11/26/2011
I hope so too b/c Barack Obama has been the worst president of my life. I can't vote for him. You've got to be kidding yourself. We've never been in such trouble. A year from now it will be either president elect clinton or romney. Your buddy Barack Obama is a flash in the pan. thank God. What a total disaster. disgustingly incompetent. He does have nice teeth but then again so does Jimma Cata. Flash in the pan. God help us.
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Grechen Allen
06:18 AM on 11/29/2011
At least she took a stance..Obama didnt.

Another thing that got Obama elected is that he is black. Black people tend to have a strong community sense based around race, whereas women do not. A black person will tend to vote for a black person (this applies to Democrats...not Republicans), whereas a women doesnt necessarily vote for a woman.

Also, there are more people that would rather see a man, regardless of race be president than a woman, regardless of her knowledge.
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04:26 PM on 11/23/2011
Very interesting commentary from Asher Smith

The Schoen and Caddell on which he comments seems laughable in so many ways, including the mere suggestion that [Hillary Clinton] "has the ability to step above partisan politics." Don't they mean step out of Democratic politics to warmonger and serve corporate profiteering in alliance with the worst of the GOP? I also think there are Republicans still itching to take Hillary on based on her "record" and all the Clinton baggage. What a circus her candidacy and campaign would be and so huge a distraction from issues that matter.

Even if President Obama decided not to run for re-election, Hillary would not be a good candidate. As Asher notes "the chaos and lack of discipline surrounding her failed 2008 campaign" testified to her own faults.

The only people still wishing for a Hillary Clinton candidacy and and presidency are the hapless, sycophantic (or is that psycho-phantic) Clinton gravy train riders and hangers on who have made careers out of Clinton campaigning and political payback public appointments. I'm sure they are wondering who will ever be their meal ticket once Hillary retires.
03:48 PM on 11/23/2011
This is a very well-written and well-argued piece that accurately describes how the "Hillary for president" pining is based on nothing but pie-in-the-sky nonsense.
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MinneMike
I am 1% deal with it
03:23 PM on 11/23/2011
Perhaps. But its is not based on false premise. Obama has been a disaster.
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Bisharama
12:37 AM on 11/26/2011
no doubt about it. Peace MinneMike.