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New President. New Congress. No Change. Here is the latest evidence of what our country is losing under the law that prevents gay men and women from serving openly in the armed forces of the United States.
Lieutenant Colonel Victor J. Fehrenbach, a fighter weapons systems officer, has been flying the F-15E Strike Eagle since 1998. He has flown numerous missions against Taliban and al-Qaida targets, including the longest combat mission in his squadron's history. On that infamous September 11, 2001, Lt. Col. Fehrenbach was handpicked to fly sorties above the nation's capital. Later he flew combat missions in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has received at least 30 awards and decorations including nine air medals, one of them for heroism, as well as campaign medals for Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq. He is now a flight instructor in Idaho, where he has passed on his skills to more than 300 future Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force weapons systems officers.
Since 1987, when Fehrenbach entered Notre Dame on a full Air Force ROTC scholarship, the government has invested twenty-five million dollars in training and equipping him to serve his country, which he has done with what anyone would agree was great distinction. He comes from a military family. His father was a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel, his mother an Air Force nurse and captain. Lt. Col. Fehrenbach has honored that tradition.
And the Air Force is about to discharge this guy, a virtual poster boy for Air Force recruiting, because he is gay? Someone has to be kidding. This is sheer madness.
But Lt. Col. Fehrenbach does not have to be discharged. There is something the Pentagon can and should do now. Lt. Col. Fehrenbach's commanders and senior commanders can retain him in the service. Individual commanders are allowing many gays and lesbians to continue to serve openly in the armed forces. They are doing so because these are good service members who are doing their jobs. Lt. Col. Fehrenbach is no danger to unit cohesion, or to morale, or to good order and discipline. He goes to work every day, does a fantastic job for his country, has all the medals and job performance evaluations to prove it, and he should be allowed to serve.
Is the discharge of an officer with such critical and valuable skills, whom the government has spent millions training, is that really what Congress intended when it gave us "don't ask, don't tell"? Only last week, Defense Secretary Robert Gates told members of Congress, "If we don't get the people part of this business right, none of our other decisions will matter." Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Congress, "This is how we take care of our people."
He should have said, "This is how we take care of some of our people," because neither Secretary Gates nor Admiral Mullen could have been thinking of the 65,000 gays and lesbians in uniform today. Certainly they were not thinking of Lt. Col. Fehrenbach when they talked about "getting the people part right" because they got the "people part" wrong.
Watching Gates and Mullen on the Hill last week, you could see what President Obama is up against. They know how to deliver great performances. They know very well that their new Commander in Chief wants to get rid of "don't ask, don't tell." They know the President needs their help to accomplish it. So far, to put it gently, they have not been particularly helpful. "Dragging their feet" best describes what they've been doing, and the President, waiting on his military, finds himself in a box.
In an Associated Press story this afternoon, reporter Lara Jakes quoted Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell as saying that both Secretary Gates and Admiral Mullen are "aware of where the President wants to go on this issue, but I don't think that there is any sense of any immediate developments in the offing on efforts to repeal don't ask-don't tell." Does this mean they know where the President wants to go but they're not going there? It doesn't sound as if the President has made a lot of progress in getting the Pentagon players on his team.
The impending discharge of Lt. Col. Fehrenbach, an 18-year combat aviator, and the likely discharge of First Lieutenant Dan Choi , an Arabic speaking Army platoon leader, put real faces on this sad unfolding drama. These two service members and scores of others are paying an enormous price while grown men and women in Washington do their political dance. And make no mistake, Congress is in on this dance, too. It is their "don't ask, don't tell" law. They passed it; they own it. Only they can repeal it. Let's be fair and accurate here. This is far more complicated than a simple stroke of the presidential pen. If an Executive Order to temporarily suspend DADT discharges would work on all fronts, for all service members, I would be all for it. But we need a real, lasting fix.
A law is a law, even a bad law. Our country and service members are suffering the consequences as we watch this theater of the absurd play out. We need this new 111th Congress and this new President to engage each other immediately and with a sense of urgency to stop this obvious madness.
What is happening in the United States military today is not the 17th century witch trials in Salem - nobody has been hanged on Gallows Hill - but it's not what most Americans think of as just or fair in a country that prides itself as having the best justice system in the world.
Lt. Col. Fehrenbach has just made his case before the American people on MSNBC's Rachel Maddow Show tonight. Let the 25 Million Dollar Aviator serve! Watch his interview with Maddow below.
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Maddow spoke the guy up for two minutes and forty-five seconds before bringing him out, pardon the pun. I don't think the guy showed get canned but from the pub. he will make a lot more money now w/ this outcome.
- Please show where you got the data that women are suddenly being raped more than in the past (as opposed to maybe it being reported better now) or when we hit the "unprecedented rate"?
- You don't know he did "NOTHING to anyone" just that Rachel Maddow used him (and Lt Choi) for a sensationalistic piece that doesn't conatin all the facts. What we do know is that he was investigated for something. When we know what that is, then we can have an intelligent, not emotonal discussion about this. You don't even know that he served honorably--again, just what you saw on this video.
"Bush subverted the Constitution every chance he got, including spying of American citizens w/ no court orders, and he signed off on torturing prisoners w/ no legislative nor court orders, and he tried to subvert all gay citizens' basic human rights."
- Someone please refer back to facts. Like when Bush enacted LEGAL presidential powers,, when congress granted permissions to do things he did, etc. Quit bashing people or jumping on the bandwagon with emotional non-fact based arguements.
We ask the military to represent the people of the United States. I don't think that is a social experiment. Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and all other people of color have and can serve this country honorable. Women can and have also served. Since when is equality a social experiment?
Further, your statement is not about homosexuality. This is about assault, a person trying to take advantage of someone who is vulnerable. In your situation someone who is asleep. Women face sexual assault by hetero men in the military and it has gone under reported, under penalized, and under investigated.
Gay (and I assume you mean men) may not look at heteros as sexually available or attractive. They just want an opportunity to do their jobs and to serve this country while living their lives.
But it is as if hetero males fear that gay men will sexually prey upon then as hetero men continue to prey upon women. If that is the case, outlaw sexual assault of all kinds in the military, investigate it, penalize it and imprison
President Obama PROMISED he would end DADT. Do it already! We are losing the brightest and the best while everyone acts like a coward -- including the guys who are so afraid of an uninvited sexual encounter. Aren't these men adults? They obviously grew up with gays all around them -- just didn't know it. So if the military got tough on sexual predators of all stripes there wouldn't be a problem. I am not getting why the military lets rapists run wild and the brave woman who just want to serve their country have an ever greater risk of being molested (at least). But, oh gee, a guy maybe getting molested and so a whole class of people are being fired just for BEING who they are, they don't even have to do anything WRONG. But a woman gets raped and all the guys in charge just let it go. They know they have a problem with hetero men and they really don't care.
This is clearly a case of longterm learned, indoctrinated prejudices, just like those existing against people due to differences of race and nationality and class and religion and every other dumb reason to automatically mistreat another person. Hate is wrong. Continuing Injustice sorely harms our servicemen and servicewomen and this delays the inevitable day when all children will learn that we are one human family sharing one small earth and that we must help ourselves and we should also help others to live their own lives in freedom and dignity as well.
It's a win/win strategy we need.... Right now we all need to voice our support for these fine young men and women who are gay and are serving the cause of defending the freer world and the US Constitution and we need a President who will lead from the front and keep Lt Col Fehrenbach and Choi without further delay..Exec. Order NOW....please sir.
END DADT TODAY !!
DADT is duly passed legislation. It is the LAW. Moreover, within DADT, there is a requirement that it be implemented and applied if regulations are promulgated. There are regulations. The President cannot ignore the law nor should he. That is how we are in torture gate . . . Bush ignored our laws and treaties.
Men and women in the military should not be encouraged to ignore or rewarded for ignoring the law. DADT is the law. Choi, at least, violated the law and now seeks the President to also ignore the law. I say nay. Follow the law as long as it is law.
The president has committed to repeal DADT.
Repeal DADT. Lobby Congres. Better still, repeal DADT while also lobbying for full equal rights for gay men and women who serve so that their partners and loved ones have full benefits.
DADT can and should be overturned by Executive Order Today, and yes President Truman ended segregation by race in the military by Executive Order, and yes there were laws on the books forbidding this practice.
Bush subverted the Constitution every chance he got, including spying of American citizens w/ no court orders, and he signed off on torturing prisoners w/ no legislative nor court orders, and he tried to subvert all gay citizens' basic human rights.
So yes, if W can and did do it, and got away with it, and if President Truman had the courage to end segregation by E.O. so can our current President. That he has no inclination to do it only proves he's under the thumbs of the military and the spin doctors of religious totalitarians. Gays are human beings, entitled to the SAME EXACT RIGHTS as heteros.
I will not vote for O next time, bet your boots on that one. He allows our rights to be trodden down today. He lied in his pledges. We're just his patsies and pawns, just like always.
Prove he believes what he said "“And it lives on in those Americans -- young and old, rich and poor, black and white, Latino and Asian and Native American, gay and straight -- who are tired of a politics that divides us and want to recapture the sense of common purpose that we had when John Kennedy was president of the United States of America.”
Social experiment? Tell the fondling fellow to get lost or press charges. One guy does not represent the entire population of gay men.
they get in the way too many times
you disagree will rules for speeding...
change the rule OR DON'T speed
you disagree will rules for breaking and entering...
change the rule OR DON'T B&E
you disagree will rules for mugging...
change the rule OR DON'T mug
As for failing a physical fitness test-you get more than 1 try.
As for being overweight, you get enrolled in the "fat boy program" to lose weight in a supervised fashion.
Fraternization results in an Article 15, at least, and maybe a courtmartial, but not necessarily discharge. I knew plenty of people that voluntarily were discharged to be able to maintain their relationship.
I started out thinking that you were familiar with the UCMJ, but, obviously, your version, not the actual document
If you believe that the lesser outcomes that you list are factually accurate and Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airman are not being discharged for all of the above infractions, it is you who is not familiar with the military. Chapter separations are definitely being done daily for each and everyone of them. A trial, Courts Martial, is not necessary to separate someone from the military as you, hopefully, are well aware of CS.
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Which is, of course, one of the primary problems with DADT: the meaning of "Don't Tell" is exceptionally broad, and that of "Don't Ask" exceptionally narrow.
“When I was in the military, they gave me a medal for killing two men and a discharge for loving one.” Matlovich's tombstone at Congressional Cemetery is located on the same row as that of FBI director J. Edgar Hoover.
Technical Sergeant Leonard Matlovich (1943–1988) was a Vietnam War veteran, race relations instructor, and recipient of the Purple Heart and the Bronze Star.
Matlovich was perhaps the best-known openly gay man in America in the 1970s. His fight to stay in the United States Air Force after coming out of the closet became a cause célèbre around which the gay community rallied.
At that time they needed bodies and really didn't care about your sexuality, despite the regulations.
In such a limited case, it caused no problems since there were so few open gays, and he kept his sexuality to himself without flaunting it. That would change with an official policy of allowing gays to serve openly. We already have enough problems with heterosexual harrassment in the military. I know that gays are NO better than the rest of us when it comes to such matters as well. It will get even worse, if the policy is changed.