The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents.

Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.

Because these particular statements by Rev. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. Wright and my membership in the church. Let me therefore provide some context.

As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. I knew Rev. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.

Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.

The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.

Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.

With Rev. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. And while Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.



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The Press needs to investigate this one more closely. Where exactly was Barack Obama when Reverend Wright was spewing his hateful sermons? He says he was "not in church", but it would be extremely damaging to the Democrats to find out this is not true should Obama be the Democratic party's nominee. We do not need this thing to blow up in the general election. So, let's get some proof behind what Obama says. If it is true, we know we won't have a problem. If it is a lie, it will be exposed now rather than in the general election. The Republicans are going to look very closely at this if he is their opponent. Better we should now NOW if we have a problem or not.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 03/27/2008

Mr. Obama,

His comments should not be a reflection on you and your persona, at all, however, if we want a better America, we need to be able to point out the flaws. I'm not saying his comments were appropiate, but I also don't like the patriotiotic behavior that some project that America is perfect and does no wrong.
You can count with my support.
Gemma

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 03/21/2008

Mr. Obama,
You cannot lead the country very well at all, if you continue to deny truth. Your clergyman is right when he condemns America.

Dr. King said it best in 1967: the United States is the greatest purveyor of violence on this planet.
It is still.

So what are you going to do? Take the reins of power and continue that?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 03/21/2008

I grew up in a church very similar to the one Barack Obama belongs to. The preachers in my church delivered sermons comparable to the now controversial messages of Rev. Wright. These sermons served a very important purpose. Our ministers were acting as our therapists. They were giving us an outlet to release the rage we felt inside about how we were being treated in our country and the unjust governmental policies. Our preachers knew if they did not address this rage aggressively, many of us would end up in jail or dead.

Rev. Wright is a black man who grew up at a time when he was not even considered a human being. He is a wounded soul who has been able to help many other wounded souls make it through just one more day.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 03/21/2008
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Thanks for appearing on the huffington post, many of the other democratic candidates have posted here, hillary probably never will because she can't take tough questions. I really applaud you for your speech on race.

It's just like John Stewart said, you talked to us like adults, not through fear-mongering like Hillary with the lame 3 am ad or whatever.

I voted for nader twice, the first was a mistake because I was in a swing state, the second wasn't because I wasn't, but this year I will vote for you. I however won't vote for Hillary under any circumstance, and I hope she knows there are many of us who feel that way. I feel you have always kept your cool, know the issues, despite a supposed lack of experience hillary talks about, despite the fact that you technically have more than her and first lady doesn't count to me.

you will be able to unite the democrats, and this country, but hillary will unite the republicans and divide this country just like bush.

I hope you win the rest of the primaries from here on out so the delegates from michigan and florida can be seated and not swing the race the other way because of their rule breaking. and i hope you win the rest of them by a lot so we see you as the clear winner and hillary can't claim any sort of victory.

People forget that speeches do matter. roosevelt told us we have nothing to fear but fear itself, kennedy told us to ask not what our country can do for us, but what we can do for it, and they inspired us americans to do things like joining the peace corps, or whatever. speeches do matter, especially by presidents, because we need inspiration and frank talk about the issues, especially after this current president.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 03/21/2008

Thank you wallstreet nobody for pointing out to White America what is so abvious to Black Americans. During my lifetime America has changed for the better for African Americans but historically this hasn't been true . Why is this so hard for people to remember that African Americans were brought to this country against their will ,as slaves. White America doesn't want to talk about this but to Black American's this history is carried with us. Why does it seem so outrageous that a Black American especially anolder one would have these negative feelings in regards to this country. I have no problem with what Michelle Obama said about her feelings about America. She was yes, BEING HONEST. This perspective that to be a patriot one has to feel pride in our country at all times is a very White American perspective, or maybe just a silly one.
The few things that I have heard come out of Rev.Wrights mouth have not made me proud, but angry. At the same time however, I think much of what he has said is true. Unfortunately he said it in a way that makes him appear hateful, bigoted and hurtful.
For many white americans the u tube video has succeeded in doing what it set out to do and that was to move Obama from being seen initially as the Peoples candidate to the Black peoples candidate. This is the tactic that the Clintons have tried to use from the beginning. Too bad that most Americans can't see that they are being minipulated into seeing Obama as an enemy. I have lost all respect for the Clintons and I fear they will do anything to make sure Hillary wins the nomination.
Obama is probably the first candidate I have ever felt who is actually who they say they are(other than Jimmy Carter). I believe that Obama is a man who loves this country and will make a great president.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 03/21/2008

Well spoken, Bostonsomebody. "The perspective that to be a patriot one has to feel pride in our country at all times.......Freedom of speech isn't just about the right to sell 'gansta rap.' It's about our duty as Citizens to speak out when our leaders aren't living up to what we expected of them when we voted in our free elections. It is, indeed, unfortunate HOW Rev. Wright expressed his opinion of our history and it is questionable that he used his pulpit and position to do it. A street corner soapbox might have been more appropriate.

In Sen. Obama's defense, not every parishioner in every church whole-heartedly believes everything that comes out of the preacher's mouth. And the preacher is there not to brainwash, but to give people something to think about. To think about the way we treat each other and to think about how we want our government to treat us is something all Americans need to hear in an election year. And every year. Further, we want to think about how our friends and neighbors in the rest of the world think about America and Americans. Because this is the year we choose the person who will represent us; how we believe and think and treat the rest of the world will be embodied in the person we choose.

As a black American who grew up during the times of greatest change of how we are treated in this country, the one thing that is pervasive through all of this is that while we can legislate equality and equity, we cannot change people's hearts with the law. I can sit at the lunch counter, but I can't make a law to make the server enjoy having to serve me.

Perhaps, in a way Rev. Wright didn't even intend, he gave us a fine example of what we as Americans don't want..... We don't want leaders that lead with hate and we don't want leaders that lead with fear. We don't want leaders that lie to us, to the world and to themselves when they blindly (or not so blindly) condone or endorse how we treat other countries, how we treat our prisoners whether they are political or not, and how we treat each other as groups and as individuals.

Groups and individuals. Perhaps Sen. Obama will be the one to finally lead us to see that we are not black Americans, white Americans, Italian Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic Americans, etc. Perhaps he will be the one to lead us to see that we are Americans, once and for all.


favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 03/22/2008

Trinity needs to start releasing transcripts of Wright's sermons from throughout his career.

Everywhere I turn I am hearing the pastor painted as a guy who spewed racial hate from the pulpit every Sunday.

Having known personally people who've attended Trinity, I know this is far from the truth.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 03/20/2008

Having grown up in the Chicago area the Rev. Wrights sermons are well known on the street and yes they were anti American and filled with hateful and hurtful rhetoric often. There is no way that Barack Obama did not hear them while he attended services there. He also could not have just become aware of the existence of the videos and the statements that Rev. Wright made after 9/11 because they have been brought up in the media for the past two years on FOX News, MSNBC, and others, including overseas publications dating back to 2001. Obama himself alledgedly sat in during a racialy hot sermon back on July 22, 2006 and was alledgedly seen nodding his head in agreement as Wright blasted "White America"! I am equally sure that a video of his attendance at one of these racist rants exists somewhere. Why is it that Rev. Wright is left untouched for his bigotry, yet last spring the African American community and the american media and public demanded the ouster of radio talk show host Imus after he spewed an insensitive and demeaning remark concerning an African American women's college basketball team. Imus was removed immediately, and he aplologized for his ill spoken bigoted words, yet Wright has never been reprimanded, has never aplogized (too little too late!), and up until last week he was on Obama's campaign staff - Why the pervasive double standard? A racist of any color is still a racist, and we surely do not need a leader that supported this behavior for over twenty years, and now expects the victims to just let it go unpunished. I guess the hope that Obama is bringing to this election is the hope that hate can still be kept alive, and just how uniting is that? No wonder Oprah attends this same Church, I suppose she also agrees with the Reverends racist intonations too. Jesus was a peacemaker not a hater, which is why the words spoken by Rev. Wright are not the words of a man who gave his life for us, a man who never saw the color of ones skin - he saw the heart and the soul within, and loved everyone. Please tell me what kind of love was Wright preaching about if it was based on fomenting hate? Hardly a true Christian value, it sounds more like the hate the Terrorists had for our Democracy and our freedoms on 9/11, than an actual biblical lesson.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 03/20/2008

Hi militarywifemom, can you provide links to back up the following claims you have made?

"He also could not have just become aware of the existence of the videos and the statements that Rev. Wright made after 9/11 because they have been brought up in the media for the past two years on FOX News, MSNBC, and others, including overseas publications dating back to 2001"

"Obama himself alledgedly sat in during a racialy hot sermon back on July 22, 2006 and was alledgedly seen nodding his head in agreement as Wright blasted "White America"!"

I think you should back those claims up. Until you do, i can only see your post as being libel.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 AM on 03/21/2008

I'm a white guy in my early 30s and work on Wall Street - a place that is almost completely white. And I have never realized how racist so many white people are until reading these comments as well as comments on many other sites with regards to Rev. Wright's speech. I grew up going to church every Sunday, I think my church was 100% white, and I constantly heard sermons talking about the sins of America and how they were trying to destroy the "blessed" people. So its ok for white people to hate a group like gays but it isn't ok for black people to hate slavery and racism? Fortunately I live in a place where most people are highly educated and successful and I haven't heard this kind of nonsense, I'm only hearing it on the internet so maybe its just a bunch of trolls everywhere (e.g. right-wing fascists parading as Americans).

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 03/20/2008

"Sunday, I think my church was 100% white, and I constantly heard sermons talking about the sins of America and how they were trying to destroy the "blessed" people. So its ok for white people to hate a group like gays but it isn't ok for black people to hate slavery and racism?"

You are misconstruing the objections to Wright's sermons, the vast majority of people who object ot Wright are not concerned about hating slavery and racism they are about his comments such as the US government gave people of color AIDs or that the US should be known as the US of KKKK... (If the KKK were running the country do you think we would have affirmative action or Obama would have gotten this far..? Hardly)

As for your other point, If I were in a church and a minister started condemning gay people I would walk out. Obama stuck around Jeremiah Wright (who he called his mentor..) for 20 years. I know there quite a few Whites who attend churches that rant about "Homosexuals" and all I can say is.. I wouldn't want a parishioner who tolerated that nonsense as my President either.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 03/20/2008

As an intellectual exercise -

Then we shouldn't have a Catholic or Christian Fundamental President (abhors homosexuality and abortion)?

Is it that much of a leap of faith that the US could have been experimenting with AIDS when the Tuskeegee syphillis study ran from from 1932 to 1972 - 40 years - and only ended when it was leaked to the press? I was 13 in 1972 - if I had found out that my government was experimenting on my people for FORTY YEARS - denying adequate treatment, even though the penicillin treatment became available in 1947 - I could see me making that connection, no matter how ill-informed or wrong it is. After all, didn't Reagan think that AIDS was God's way of punishing gays? HIS preachers sure did.

Al Qaeda bombed us partly because of our presence in Saudi Arabia. In effect, our arrogance with respect to foreign policy in the Islamic world, and unflinching support for Israel (Why is that we have regular disagreements with almost all countries but never Israel?), is in part to blame for 9/11. DO NOT misinterpret my remarks here. I do not in any way excuse or condone any of what happened, and the blame for 9/11 rests firmly on radical fundamentalism; however, we must, as a nation, recognize that nothing exists in a vacuum. As for the "chickens coming home to roost" sentiment, well, he lifted that straight from Malcolm X for impact.

The Obama speech was brilliant as a treatise on where theings stand and why. I do, however, have a problem that has not been adequately answered by Senator Obama - while I can understand a black politician with political aspirations attending a 8,000 strong black church and taking controversial statements with a grain of salt, once your kids are born, why still attend? I cannot fathom allowing my children to hear filth from the pulpit. At some point, your own moral compass has to take over. His answer that he can no more disown Rev. Wright than he can the black community rings a bit hollow. Along the same lines, while he may not have physically been present during the "You Tube" sermons, he had to have been told about them, given his celebrity status in the congregation.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 03/20/2008
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Senator Barack Obama's Speech
I think Senator Obama gave the speech of a lifetime. I would equal it to one of my greatest heroes: Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. However, the thing that troubles me about this whole race thing and religion is how easily it has been for white America to try and make blacks feel guilty for sermons delivered from the pulpits of their churches. Also how easily the media tried to hold Obams'a feet to the fire for not leaving the church because of those comments. Traditionally, that is not something blacks do. It was in those churches that we learned about the KKK and other marauding murderous white militiamen. It was in the black church that we learned how to protest during the Civil Rights Movement. That is where we learned about non-violent protest.

Had it not been for those type of sermons,(not necessarily the words used by Rev. Wright, but the fieryness) we would still be living under the rule of jim crow. I think the whole thing has been blown out of porportion. Had the members of the reverends congregation taken it seriously, they would have been rioting in the streets. They were not. Racism is not dead in this country, though we would like to think that it is.

In 1995, I was run out of business and driven to the point of near insanity because the town found out that I owned my business and was not running it for my white landlord. I lost a sizeable amount of money. When I sought legal help, I was told that there was not a lawyer within 100 miles of that city that would sue a white citizen for a black person. He was right. Fortunately, I had an excellent psychologist in Sacramento who helped me to not judge all of white America by the deeds of those few who had so damaged me. I am still struggling.

Despite the media's attempt to make Obama a mirror image of his pastor, because of association, Senator Obama is not racist, neither is his pastor a racist. Rev. Wright is a product of his early childhood in a racist America which shaped his views, just as they have shaped mine.

Senator Obama has sought consistently, throughtout this campaign to bring this nation together. He has sought to rise above the race issue. He has gathered an army about him that is truly representative of the fabric of America. He is a candidate I feel that I can trust and rely on. Not because he is black, but because he refuses to allow his opponent to drag him into the mire of underhanded deeds. The Senator is right, America cannot just walk away from the problem, it has to be openly dealth with.



favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 03/19/2008

Read your comments and found them very compelling and I began to think....what we as americans are experiencing now is the manipulation of partisan politics. I have been watching all the candidates and by the time the primary came to my state I had researched a lot of the misstatements and made my decision. I can only hope that those who are supporting individual candidates will carefully think about what we arein for should the Republican Party win another four years in the White House. It will be very hard for those who have lost jobs, loss of homes and the possibility of not only extended stay in Iraq but a possible strike at Iran.

Some Republicans are so busy trying to keep the fear of electing Obama or Hillary....I think that those who support either candidate should not fall for the rhetoric and steadfastly continue their support for whomever until the Convention at which time one is nominated. After that nomination, we need to support that nomination.

Personally, I am not going to allow partisan politcal rhetoric to take me off focus of what I want and that is not to be swayed by them to either sit out the election or vote for their candidate in a way of showing my displeasure for whoever the Democratic nominee is.

I would hope that Senators Clinton and Obama would focus on the issues and the only way that can be done is by voters asking them at rallys specific questions regarding the economy, health care and the war. I am a grandmother with a 19 year old granddaughter serving in Iraq and I pray constantly for her safety along with all of her fellow soldiers safety and return.....when I pray, I pray for all the american soldiers and for those in that country should find peace. My greatest fear is that we the voters will allow right wing pondents to take us off course to change the party that occupies the White House in January 2009.

People, I urge you to stay strong in what you want the election outcome to be.



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favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 03/20/2008

I can't believe anyone gives a rip about this! How in the
world can Sen. Obama control what other people say?

Why aren't we talking about what the definition of "is"
is? You think 35 years in Washington hasn't made the
Clintons beholden to people? ...please... I hope Hillary
supporters can see that 35 years in the "business" isn't
something to be proud of; she's had 35 years to dig
herself in to Washington politics - this is what America
needs LESS of. 35 years does not equate to experience, it
equals "knowing how to manipulate the machine."

The only thing Obama knows how to do is to talk? GOOD!!
What does a president do?!?! HE HAS TO TALK! How sick and
tired are we of the knucklehead in the whitehouse now? Do
HIS words inspire people with confidence?

And if that's all his words do is inspire, isn't that a
good thing? Don't we want people to be inspired? Isn't a
president supposed to use his words to change political
minds in Washington? To influence lawmakers?

Make note of this date: A democrat has hit one out of the
park and it's continuing around the world with no sign of
stopping.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 03/19/2008

Just think of all the children that are subjected to that hate on a weekly basis in that church and it's easy to see how racism begins.

Too bad his speech did not denounce the pastor. Saying "I can no more disown him then disown black america"...what???

I wish someone would ask Obama if he believes "white america" put Aids in the black community!
I now believe Clinton is correct... Obama does think you can fix everything with a speech. Now we can see why Obama''s wife hates America and calls Americans "sloths" and says we are all "mean". They are both disgusting and he should never be President of a country they apparently have so much disdain for.

If he didn''t pick up something from his insipid preacher over 20 years of going to that church it is apparent his wife did.

To bad we had the media pushing their own agenda for so long and only now are we finding this out.
The democrats will never win the white house back now.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 03/19/2008

I thought the Democratic party was meant to be the progressive party, party for liberals? What you are basically saying is that you don't empathise with Rev. Wright because of the tone he used to say it, even though the majority of what he said is based on fact?

About the AIDS comment, a poster above said it best

"is it that much of a leap of faith that the US could have been experimenting with AIDS when the Tuskeegee syphillis study ran from from 1932 to 1972 - 40 years - and only ended when it was leaked to the press?"

I thought true democrats were those that stood for justice and equality. If you see a fellow democrat being bullied into submission because of his race, shouldn't you be sticking up for him? What you are basically saying is the democrats should abandon the fight for justice, and pick the safe option. That is, let's give in to the bigots and the racists.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 AM on 03/21/2008

Obama is very long on moral authority he takes for granted because of a few votes that have yet to be tested by nomination preference or general election.

His pastors remarks were not so different than those he spoke. Asking America to accept wholesale white guilt, or saying they must accept it because he says so is ridiculous. Who is he to be telling Americans what they can, should, or must think?

Just because he isn't as passionate as his pastor doesn't mean they aren't saying the same thing.

Telling people what they ought to think doesn't sound like a good plan to get where he wants to go.
In fact, it's every reason not to elect him.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 03/19/2008

With all due respect, Sen. Obama, you must have felt uncomfortable at times when your beloved pastor disparraged against the Jews! I am a Catholic, and I would. I believe fervently in the Most Holy Trinity. But I always mistrust people who, like your pastor, exhibit hate for the Chosen People! The Trinitarian God has chosen the Jews! No trinitarian pastor should hate them! There is nothing in your speech that condemns this hate! You go on a tangent, bringing up the race issue. But the race is not the issue! The only problem I see with your pastor, and with yourself for not seeing it, is that your pastor has a big mouth in the wrong way! He is theologically impaired! He is unable to distinguish between hating people and hating sin! For this, he would have to convert to Catholicism. We no longer make such mistakes! Your pastor prays that America "be damned." You sit in the pew, ... and mindlessly applaud! You are guilty, by association! Your pastor is dead wrong: it's evil in America that deserves condemnation, not the American People! If I were your teacher, I would give you an "A" for delivery, an "A" minus for composition, and a "D" for the critical inability to focuss on the core of the problem! And believe me, critical insight is what America needs in the next President!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 03/19/2008
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I do not disagree with the political statements that the reverend made ( I voted for Ron Paul here in NY)
I found the remarks on race harsh but I suspect they were made in the reverends zeal to support you Obama.I thought the contrast he made between Hillary and yourself was an attempt to make some folks who felt you were not black enough,understand that you were.but the other statements kinda wacky,but who doesn't have some wacky ideas ? I spent nearly 3 years in foster care from the age of 3-6 where I suppose I first heard about Jesus.But,I was raised mostly by a mother who is a self proclaimed witch,but she never stopped me from going to church,so long as I found my own way there and didn't come back preaching to her.when I was 9 years old,in SanJose Ca.we had moved yet again and as was my habit,I went looking for another of "gods houses" a church.I found one near enough for me to walk to,I stood outside waiting for it to start.people started coming and standing outside,I asked one of them what time church started,she looked at me and smiled and said " are you sure you want to go to THIS church,honey?"I thought it was a strange question ( why wouldn't I,it's was God house,right?)so I told her "yes".Well I went to the service,and there was a family there with a little girl about my age,they kind of took me under their wing.it wasn't until about 5 weeks of going there ,that I was looking at everybody while they sat and listened to the preacher ( peoples reactions to things always interested me) and I suddenly realized that I was the ONLY white person there ! wait no..the organ player was white.Point is..no one pointed this out to me,no one told me that I couldn't go to this church because I was a white girl,they treated me very kindly,and I will never forget that.
As I said before,I don't disagree with some of the political view,the reverend expressed.I do disagree with Where it was said,I always felt that church is an earthly representation of Gods house,and I disagree with politics spoken of in any church.I also strongly disagree with anger or rage being expressed in the way it was,there.I'm 40 now,I no longer go to churches looking for God,I think none of them stay true to the bible they are supposed to preach.I listen to a man named Harold Camping the president and co-founder of "Family Radio Worldwide teaching Ministry( China even allows them to broadcast there).Harold Camping has never talked politics in his bible studies,he will not comment on any political figure ,or the politics of any in the world.there is no talk of race eigther.The people that listen to him are white ,black,chinese,hispanic.I've met them at bible conferences.Harold Camping does have controversial teachings within the world of christianity,but they have nothing to do with politics or race.They have to do with what he feels the bible say's about the churches of this time in history,of the great "falling away",and about of course Revelations,which he does not interpet as speaking of any actual country,but rather Peoples.I do not agree with everything he Teaches eigther,I don't know if he is right or wrong on what people consider as the "wacky" interpretations of revelations and how they relate to now.But,I agree with most everything else he teaches.The main thing I like about him is his humilty and desire to stick strictly to the bible and let it interpret it's self.No Politics,no sermons on social issues,just pure Bible.The bible alone and in it's entirety.After all,it's not about THIS world,but about the kingdom of God.And God's house is not some physical building ,as I thought as a child,but it's a spiriitual house,made up of all true believers from The beginning to the end of time.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 03/19/2008

Being a Christian or a Muslim should not be the test of a Presidential nominee. I'm sorry every time Obama rises to the bait, because it drives a wedge between the Christian and non-Christian (which is basically everybody else!). The mere fact of having to describe one's religious affiliation is divisive. I would prefer to vote for a secularist. The likelihood that a secularist would not get elected is itself a defeat for spiritual liberty.

"I have no difficulty believing him a religious man, yet he was not a Christian!" -- Lincoln's friend and law partner Ward Hill Lamond

"I am sure one or the other is mistaken in that belief, and perhaps in some respects both." -- Abraham Lincoln declining to pledge his fidelity to the Evangelicals, who were both Confederate and Union at the time.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 03/19/2008

Google either quote....

"I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievanc and
animosity against my mother's race."

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in
an ugly direction

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 03/19/2008

Have you seen this video...

watch the entire thing... you'll see during God Bless America...

Obama refuses to put his hand on his chest....

hummmmmmmmmmmm WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS AMERICA...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5N-1-g90bW0

Posted at March 17, 2008 4:45 AM in response to I want to hear why
you support Clinton (really)

Have you seen this video...

watch the entire thing... you'll see during God Bless America...

Obama refuses to put his hand on his chest....

hummmmmmmmmmmm WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS AMERICA...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=5N-1-g90bW0

Posted at March 17, 2008 4:40 AM in response to Source: Obama Tells
Donors That Losing Pennsylvania By Less Than 10 Points Will Be
"Victory"

Google either quote....

"I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievanc and
animosity against my mother's race."

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in
an ugly direction."


favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 03/19/2008

Here are two things for you to go and work on then come back here and
write another article telling us how you think that someone with
these
connections and his lying background... should be America's
President:
++++++++++++++++++++++++
1. The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in
Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going
to come out of the closet...you don't take these classes unless
you're muslim...this is what obamas friend in high school has told on
him..why did obama go to school in jakarta under the name of BARRY
SOETORO

2. C'mon people - Obama Baracks cousin, Raila Odinga, is running for
a political spot in Kenya. There is much mass murder related to this
election - please check out the facts - google raila odinga. Is this
the person that we want to be the next US President????
Intellectually, I know that BO will not be president, but it scares
me as to how close he came. America - what are you thinking????

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favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 03/19/2008

That sounds like the kind of stuff I get sent by my wingnut relatives, and it's usually written in 18 point red font! Have you run any of it by Snopes first? Yet we know for certain that the Clinton 'Co-Presidency' turned a deaf ear and a blind eye to the Rwanda genocide. In light of that, do we really want to give *them* another shot at the White House?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 03/19/2008

Went to one church during college once... this is so funny. My
girlfriend and I went in and we started looking for a place to sit.
When we entere the pew area... the right side was full, there was no
place to sit and on the left there were only about 15 people. We
asked a lady standing there if there was something special going on
that we should know about since we were trying to find a church.

Do you know what she said? lol

She said, oh you probably don't want to sit on the left, that side is
only for sinners!

AND WHAT SHOULD THE MORAL BE: HUMMM

WELL, OF COURSE, SINCE WE DIDN'T AGREE WITH THIS, AFTER THE
SERMON...WE JUST HAD TO STAY AND SEE WHAT THEY DID NEXT! Come on we
were college girls... Almost the entire sermon when talking about
sinning and this and that the preacher directed to the left side...
(we stood in the back...lol)

Okay, so if I was Obama... I would have just stayed.. But I wasn't
and I knew this was wrong and we never went back. And we told as
many people as we could!

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OBAMA STAYED FOR 20 YEARS AND GAVE A DECLARED $25,000 LAST YEAR
ALONE!


Posted at March 16, 2008 2:54 AM in response to Source: Obama Tells
Donors That Losing Pennsylvania By Less Than 10 Points Will Be
"Victory"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 03/19/2008

I don't really watch T.V. so I missed most of this Wright kerfluffle. Thus I was very curious to know what the preacher said that was so dang controversial. I imagined all sorts of mortifying things...but the reality is that I haven't read too much of his spiel that hasn't essentially been said over and over in a variety of ways by most of the liberal/progressive community---especially over the past 7 years!!!

Clinton voted for the Iraq war even though a substantial number of her peers voted against it, 137 I believe. For the past 5 years liberals/progressives have opposed this war with righteous outrage, and I find it absolutely inexplicable that anyone would now want someone who voted for it as the Democratic nominee for President! Conservatives always charge that Democrats don't stand for anything, and to have Clinton as the nominee would surely validate that charge.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 03/19/2008
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