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Rev. Barry Lynn

Rev. Barry Lynn

Posted: March 29, 2010 01:28 PM

The White House is now pondering recommendations offered by its Advisory Council on Faith-based and Neighborhood Partnerships. I've written here before about inappropriate financial self-interest on the part of numerous members of that Council. However, what were the overall merits and demerits of the final report presented to President Barack Obama in the Oval Office on March 9?

One major section provides 12 recommendations on how to strengthen the "legal and constitutional basis" of Obama's version of the "faith-based" initiative. When former President George W. Bush created this program in 2001, it lacked critical civil rights and civil liberties protections. The Council advises the Obama administration to make some of the changes that I have advocated for years, but the recommendations fail to include all the alterations necessary to bring the program into compliance with the Constitution.

When Obama was a candidate in the summer of 2008, he announced his vision for a dramatically revised "faith-based" initiative. And before Obama took office, Americans United and numerous other organizations presented his transition team with a concrete set of changes that could have solved all of the problems Bush had created.

Instead of moving on those changes, Obama created his Advisory Council, a body made up mostly of religious leaders. He tasked this entity with, among other things, looking at an array of legal and policy questions. In the meantime, the President did not change a single rule from the previous administration. This Bush-era regimen has since governed the distribution of billions in social service funding. In effect, the creation of the Council has had the effect, intended or otherwise, of perpetuating a deeply harmful status quo.

Many of the issues the Council tackled resulted in consensus recommendations that I support. First, the Council urged strengthening the rules requiring the separation of religion from government-funded programs. Any federally funded program must be separated in time or space from any religious activity in a facility. People being served have a right to refuse to attend any religious activity occurring there. The Council also asks the President to adopt separation rules that would be applied to all federally funded programs and to vast numbers of sub-grantees as well.

Second, the Council unanimously urged the President to strengthen protections for social service beneficiaries. The recommendations state that beneficiaries who attend publicly funded programs operated by faith-based organizations must have a right to an alternative religious or secular provider and must be informed of this right when they first enter the program.

Third, the Council urged the President to increase transparency and monitoring. Council members admitted that "it has not been easy for us to locate and access information" and documents. Imagine, then, how difficult it would be for an average citizen to find grant applications or documents. Thus, the Council requested that government agencies be required to post information, including the identification of recipient groups, on the internet. The Council acknowledged that the government has a "constitutional obligation to monitor and enforce church-state standards" in federally funded programs.

Posting information about who received grants and how the money will be used would make it easier for civil liberties activists to get a heads-up on grants that seem constitutionally or otherwise legally suspect. For example, a U.S. Government Accountability Office investigation indicated that many religiously oriented groups that got grants and contracts during the last administration flagrantly ignored prohibitions on using funds to promote their religious beliefs. (Some were reportedly surprised to learn they had any restrictions.) We have found groups using public funds to purchase Bibles and Jesus key chains, and some faith-based ministries take public funding for "secular" efforts while proudly proclaiming on their internet sites that they are Christ-focused 24/7.

To my disappointment, however, the Council failed to reach consensus on two major issues. By only a one-vote margin, the Council recommended that houses of worship that seek to receive federal funds must form separately incorporated entities to use them. (This could include setting up a tax-exempt 501(c)3 charity or other appropriate structure.) This is necessary to protect the autonomy and integrity of the religious institution as well as ensure that federal funds are not used for religious purposes.

Opponents claimed this would be too burdensome. Curiously, however, no evidence was actually offered that any groups that would decline federal aid if required to set up a secular arm.

Most troubling is that 16 Council members asserted that "the Administration should neither require nor encourage the removal of religious symbols where services subsidized by Federal grant or contract funds are provided." In the view of most scholars, the Constitution forbids government to send religious messages to beneficiaries participating in publicly funded programs through signs, symbols or iconography. Only nine Council, however, supported a standard mandating that such religious messages be removed, at least where "feasible."

Why is this such a big deal?

Frankly, the whole point of separating evangelism from secular services, such as serving meals and providing job training, is that rock-solid First Amendment doctrine forbids government entities to advance religion. What is a more potent promotion of any religious system than having the central symbols of that faith (a Christian cross, for example, or religious statements like "Jesus said, 'I am the Way, the Truth and the Life'") on the walls of a soup kitchen or counseling center?

Many religious groups promote the idea that a single encounter with the core message of the faith can lead to spiritual conversion. Is someone seeking shelter going to have the courage to report that this faith-saturated environment makes her or her children feel unwelcome and very uncomfortable? And, in most parts of the country, how long will it take to even locate some alternative provider? In reality, her real choice may be whether to face the symbols of a faith not her own or go cold and hungry.

The Council report and the process for faith-based reform are now back in the President's hands. There should be no more studying, and no more delays. I hope that President Obama will act expeditiously to fulfill his campaign promises to place the faith-based office on sound footing.

This means accepting the Council's good recommendations (which were agreed to by every Council member from the past president of the Southern Baptist Convention to the religious outreach director of the Human Rights Campaign) and toughening the ones I've addressed here.

We've seen lately that executive orders -- even on contentious issues -- can literally be written overnight. That's all it would take here.

 
 
 
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06:23 PM on 04/24/2010
pretend you are alive when the Thomas Jefdferson was a live. with what you ignorant people are saying you would be disagreeing with all of them. I guess you all would be applaud that Jefferson held church services in the CAPITOL. fact is, it was the largest church around. separation of church and state has been twisted like a pretzel to mean what you atheist need it to mean. you have helped to stop printing books that educate Americans on what our FOUNDERS said but i have plenty. the atheist and homosexual agenda is coming to a CLOSE. then America will see the true promoters of violence and hatred from where it really is. the deluge of referencing the tea party as raciest is being ignored even as Mlk ignored in knowing that the TRUTH would come out . very simply put, all of you are either atheist or socialist not their is much difference. how do you explain that the founding congress approved the printing of 10,000 bibles to be used in schools. Jefferson started many churches. your definition of deist is different then what the founders used. all the founders signed, in the year of our lord. Jefferson signed, in the year of our lord, CHRIST. either you are ignoring the truth or you just don't know it. for you atheist, their is to much evidence you just choose not to believe it. that is the only reason anyone would choose to be a fool. foolishness...
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Mark Twaine
12:39 PM on 04/01/2010
Come on now, someone at HP just slipped these words into Rev. Lynn's article as a sick April Fool's joke:

" ... a U.S. Government Accountability Office investigation indicated that many religiously oriented groups that got grants and contracts during the last administration flagrantly ignored prohibitions on using funds to promote their religious beliefs. (Some were reportedly surprised to learn they had any restrictions.) We have found groups using public funds to purchase Bibles and Jesus key chains, and some faith-based ministries take public funding for "secular" efforts while proudly proclaiming on their internet sites that they are Christ-focused 24/7."
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01:41 PM on 04/01/2010
and this is what is wrong with giving them public money in the first place; and it is part of the evangelical right wing's attempt to reinvent US history to give themselves special rights. Constitution, we don't need no stinking constitution, except the one we get to decide on every teensy detail. These people were given legitimacy by the Bush admin. that they do not warrant in any legal fashion, and it needs to be taken back
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Mark Twaine
05:15 PM on 04/01/2010
Yes.

I want my RIGHTS back!!
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Jennifer Mead
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04:30 PM on 03/31/2010
Oh is so sad that Obama follows in the foot steps of Bush on so many policy levels. This one for sure. I was so pissed when Bush got this started up. Now to hear that Obama is just sitting on it, like so many other things. Now he wants to drill of the coast of America? He campaigned against that! Argh.
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Mark Twaine
10:51 AM on 04/01/2010
The oil plan doesn't bother me because the drilling, I believe, is unlikely to happen, but the FBI giveaway does because it is happening now!

This unaudited slick political payola slush fund is pumping life blood into the bodies of organizations which exists to rob people of their civil rights and liberties.
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Kevin Atlanta
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10:04 PM on 03/30/2010
This "Faith-Based Initiative" is an inexcusable trashing of the United States Constitution and it is the primary source of funding of the most recent Cults of Jesus Inc of Catholic, Evangelical and LDS/Mormon flavors that spent $42 million of Taxpayer dollars in their pogroms of Hate and Fear Mongering against the LGBT Community and that continue to Lie and Discriminate against LGBT Citizens as a matter of their "Faith and Religious Freedoms."
I've spent the past 6 months in active research looking at the statements from the 501c divisions of the Catholic cults of Jesus, The Evangelicals like Saddle Back Church of Rick Warren "Kill the Gays" in Uganda fame and of course the ever present LDS/Mormons who traditionally blur the lines as a normal course of business.
These Faith-Based Liars appear to intentionally misdirect funds to their own Hate Campaigns and provide services inflated in cost to nearly the $900 toilet seat level of the United States Military.
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Mark Twaine
11:00 AM on 04/01/2010
I support your analysis. The Faith Based Initiative is a boon to these organizations' religious missions or they wouldn't be competing with each other for the funds. Their missions are in direct conflict with the beliefs, personal choices and practices of many citizens and therefore puts the government in the business of promoting religion.
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01:37 PM on 04/01/2010
you are completely correct-fanned
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One more Thing
08:28 AM on 03/30/2010
So our President is a constitutional law professor:

Per the author, " ... recommendations fail to include all the alterations necessary to bring the program into compliance with the Constitution."

Seems to me the president did no better job selecting members of the Advisory Council than he did with his first round administration appointments!
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Mark Twaine
11:36 AM on 04/01/2010
Excellent article. Finally, it is reassuring to know that someone with an objective mind is expressing concern about this little Obama secret.


Why are no reporters asking Robert Gibbs and other WH staffers about this give away program? It's almost like there is something sacred about it!
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bklynsparrow
creating reality from unreal things
12:49 AM on 03/30/2010
I'm no fan of faithbased programs that are used to proselytize. But the funds from these programs are for community service programs like soup kitchens, and alcohol and drug treatment, or providing safe havens for abused women and children. The money does not go into a church operating fund. It's earmarked.

And most of this money goes to smaller churches that work hard in their communities, trying to do good work. In poorer communities they are a lifeline, and in cities they help ease the burden on social services. I have my problems with a few things in how the programs are run, but condemning them all out of hand as rightwing fundamentalist Christians trying to impose on the rest of us is a totally inaccurate picture. And no- I am not a right wing fundamentalist. Not even close.
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From the Raft
08:03 AM on 03/30/2010
I just find it difficult to think of the Constitution as a bowl of clay to be re-molded to suit every personal whim.
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bklynsparrow
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10:48 AM on 03/30/2010
Tell the to the Supreme Court. They interpret the intent of the Constitution- recall their latest? Corporations are now considered as "individuals?" Show me where in the Constitution or Bill of Rights it says Walmart is the same as Joe the Plumber.
10:02 AM on 03/30/2010
It is true that churches can and have done "good works" in our communities. That is not the issue though. The issue is first that it is Constitutionally suspect and does cause some recipients of the recipients of these services to be discriminated against with tax dollars that should NEVER be given to a church or religious group. I worked for a secular charity that lost a govt. grant to a church for services that would have been provided by the secular group. The secular group eventually had to close and the church "ministries" to the poor got huge.
Of course there is the fact that churches have a hard time keeping religion out of their services anyway. That is one reason for the separation of church and state. You may not have a problem with it, but even having to bow your head for prayer before getting to eat at a soup kitchen is humiliating for a non-Christian or Christian not of that denomination. Most will do it to get to eat and have learned to keep their mouths closed as to their real beliefs. Perhaps that was one of the goals of faith based initiatives. I see this and experience it on my job. I am a social worker who is not a Christian and more and more required to have church as part of my life. My clients have to visit their children removed by the state at a Baptists Church!
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bklynsparrow
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10:39 AM on 03/30/2010
I understand all this- believe me. I worked for the Salvation Army during the WTC recovery and we faced exactly this problem every day. I won't tell you all the horror stories with out of control evangelists on the site and the insults slung my way because I wasn't "Christian" enough. Being Jewish put me far out of the circle. There were even people from the Salvation Army who, despite their rules of not proselytizing when doing disaster relief, allowed many other religious groups to come in who had no qualms about using the site to promote their churches. Even some Sallie Anns were pretty despicable.

But the majority of them were amazing. The Red Cross refused to continue services because they wanted to work out of St. Johns- a nice college building. The SA had no problem pitching a leaky tent in the middle of the road and going to work. They and the Southern Baptists do disaster relief all over the world and they do not proselytize when doing this work. And the bring world class people with them-many who ae not SA but are trained disaster responders.
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frankg3400
11:07 PM on 03/29/2010
As far as I'm concerned, they should do away with "The Faith Based Initiative" unless they can actually verify where the money is going. I see it as nothing but a windfall of money going to the right wing religious groups who are using the money to get their "Faith Based" crews elected to school boards, local governments, governor, Senators etc. instead of what it is supposed to be used for which is helping people not to win elections.
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From the Raft
08:13 AM on 03/30/2010
You got it! The funds are used for selfish objectives of each individual organization.

If you can't trust a highly visible conservative organization such as Michael Steele's RNC with public funds (topless night club in LA) only a fool would trust the FBI organizations with these "hidden," secretive and unaccountable grants.
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RedDogBear
01:23 PM on 03/30/2010
I agree except I would remove the "unless". They should do away with "The Faith Based Initiative" period. Separation of church and state to me is pretty simple, the government has no business teaming up with specific religious organizations.
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Mark Twaine
11:06 AM on 04/01/2010
So simple, yet so stupid! If this keeps going on congressional seats will have plaques on them with the name the religious supporter for whom they got the most money from the FBI program!
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From the Raft
09:56 PM on 03/29/2010
The President's Faith Based Initiative is like a monarch's royal slush fund which is doled out as favors to appease right wing religious conservatives.

The conservatives could say, "Thank You, Your Highness Obama," instead they just say, "No!"
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bklynsparrow
creating reality from unreal things
12:39 AM on 03/30/2010
Yet again- this program was instituted under the Bush administration. The right wing Bush conservatives are the ones who wanted it and got it. Cracked open that history book yet?
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From the Raft
07:59 AM on 03/30/2010
Candidate Obama announced during a campaign campaign stop in Zainesville, Ohio that he would continue Bush's FBI program clearly indicating this was a policy choice and political move directed at evangelicals.

There was no obligation on Obama's part to keep this program.

Also, as Rev. Barry Lynn indicates in this article the President clearly understood there were some "Constitutional" problems with the Bush program, promised to change them and has failed to deliver on his promise.

Meanwhile, he receives no appreciation from conservatives for whom he became a hypocrite!
09:49 PM on 03/29/2010
Faith Based Inititaves=faithless, base, indiferrence & inertia. It's kind of a bigoted boondoggle. Will the fellowship's cat house on C St become the DC Refuge for Unwed Fathers?
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09:58 PM on 03/29/2010
It was!
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Mark Twaine
12:13 PM on 04/01/2010
I like that "bigoted boondoggle" when it was founded. It has become Obama's " Boondoggie!'

As for that house on C Street, it's Washington's version of the Vatican.
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grailknight
is happily godless
07:01 PM on 03/29/2010
The solution is simple: end faith-based initiative and prayer breakfasts.
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08:56 PM on 03/29/2010
You are a knight in shinning armor, now solve that pedophilia problem!
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grailknight
is happily godless
09:15 PM on 03/29/2010
See some of my posts on blogs about that!
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DavidShort
09:04 AM on 03/30/2010
I'm with you. But at the same time, government should be getting out of the charity business et al. Let the legitimate charities reassume their role, while the government does the same.
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bobby99
06:54 PM on 03/29/2010
I'm sick of spending our tax money supporting the promotion of those icons and their particular version of holy ghost. Lets spend it educating our children on things that are REAL, you know, like science! Math! Reading!

I am tired of my tax money going to pedophiles. I'm tired of it going to people who sit around all day claiming their god is real but no one else's is. That everyone else is a sinner. That if you don't listen to them you'll go to hell or whatever other kooky fantasy place they've come up. People - none of it is real!

Why we continue to accept people walking around claiming to know a fantasy being exists and that we need to listen to them is beyond me, but fine, let them believe whatever nonsense they want. Just don't continue to make me pay taxes to support it.

If you want to do charity work as a church, awesome, get the same tax break as nonprofits who do nothing but charity work, and get it *for your charity work*. But to pay you people to have a fantasy battle for 'souls', I just can't stand it. We pay churches to go out and convince people nonsense stories are true.

Believe whatever you want - on your own dime!

Shifting of child molesters from one parish to another - YOU PAID FOR THAT. Paying the child molesters, *while they were molesting children* - YOU PAID FOR THAT.
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From the Raft
09:00 PM on 03/29/2010
I am extremely disappointed that Barack Obama has tainted his administration, character and intelligence by approving this unconstitutional religious program!
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bklynsparrow
creating reality from unreal things
12:31 AM on 03/30/2010
That was Bush who instituted this faith based initiative. Obama is trying to make it work since so many religious organizations provide valuable community services (soup kitchens for instance, programs for abused women and alcoholics). Should all of these programs get shut down, the local communities and states would be even more overwhelmed than they are now. Bush instituted it to be pragmatic- Obama is trying to make sure it isn't an abuse of separation of church and state.
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BoyInBOYCOTT
06:11 PM on 03/29/2010
FIX IT = turn off the tap

not another dime, for these thugs who blackmailed DC they wouldn't care for homeless people if gay marriage passed.
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From the Raft
09:03 PM on 03/29/2010
Yes. Turn off the tap even if the DC archbishop agreed to stop the rape of boys by priests.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
05:59 PM on 03/29/2010
Yup: let's fix it to a stake at low tide and wait six hours.
05:14 PM on 03/29/2010
So where are all those "Constitutionalists" protesting about how their tax dollars are supporting religion through the unconstitutional Faith-Based Initiatives Program?
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05:50 PM on 03/29/2010
well right here- I am one, and I am strongly in favor of taxation of what John Adams called our "ecclesiastical corporations". To give such religious institutions special tax status infringes on my right to not give them any monetary support. Only the actual charity work done by churches should be tax exempt, and only donations to those tax exempt works should be deductible as charitable donations.
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From the Raft
09:14 PM on 03/29/2010
Check out "The Tax Exempt Gravy Train:"

http://indieregister.wordpress.com/2010/03/06/stop-the-tax-free-gravy-train/

Did you know the Watergate Hotel in Washington DC was owned by the Vatican??
Read the article!
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Mark Twaine
12:19 PM on 04/01/2010
Please, please keep your voice down. We don't want the Supreme Court to come with any new corporate rulings based on "ecclesiastical corporations!"
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From the Raft
09:24 PM on 03/29/2010
Don't know of any groups protesting, but here are links to some groups:

http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=columns&page=links

Go fight!
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bklynsparrow
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02:33 PM on 03/29/2010
I agree with most of what you're saying but I really don't see why a church or synagogue or mosque (or any place of religious faith) should have to remove all symbols of its identity. My main concern would be that they do not sue the program to promote their religion- no handing out tracts with the soup or sitting down and trying to have a religious discussion with someone who is seeking counseling. You can remove every religious symbol but if program operators don't follow the rules, they deserve the blame. If those of other faiths are made to feel unwelcome, it is not the icon, its the human behavior. But there's no purpose in stripping a religious institution of its icons. They shouldn't need to hide what they are- but on the other hand if they persist in unlawful bheavior, they should not be given any funding.
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From the Raft
09:30 PM on 03/29/2010
The icon AND the human behavior would need to conform according to Constitutional scholars, what part of the Constitution do you not support?
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bklynsparrow
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12:28 AM on 03/30/2010
I support all of it but i don't support hypocrisy that says we should make them take down their own icons within their own buildings in an effort to pretend we are giving money to faith based organizations. It's also unconstitutional to demand a religious organization take down its icons with in its private religious domain. What part of freedom of religion do you not support?
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Mark Twaine
12:33 PM on 04/01/2010
I don't suppose you would have any objection then if local Tea Bag marchers took a little detour and dropped into a local soup kitchen to man the meal serving line!
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bklynsparrow
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01:01 PM on 04/01/2010
Nope- as long as they shut up while they do it and just serve the food. When evangelists served on my food line at Ground Zero, if they started in with any religious stuff, I kicked them off the line and off the site. There were plenty of very religious folk who didn't abuse the privilege of serving- I'm still friends with them.