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Did Jesus Exist?

Posted: 03/20/2012 7:25 am

In a society in which people still claim the Holocaust did not happen, and in which there are resounding claims that the American president is, in fact, a Muslim born on foreign soil, is it any surprise to learn that the greatest figure in the history of Western civilization, the man on whom the most powerful and influential social, political, economic, cultural and religious institution in the world -- the Christian church -- was built, the man worshipped, literally, by billions of people today -- is it any surprise to hear that Jesus never even existed?

That is the claim made by a small but growing cadre of (published ) writers, bloggers and Internet junkies who call themselves mythicists. This unusually vociferous group of nay-sayers maintains that Jesus is a myth invented for nefarious (or altruistic) purposes by the early Christians who modeled their savior along the lines of pagan divine men who, it is alleged, were also born of a virgin on Dec. 25, who also did miracles, who also died as an atonement for sin and were then raised from the dead.

Few of these mythicists are actually scholars trained in ancient history, religion, biblical studies or any cognate field, let alone in the ancient languages generally thought to matter for those who want to say something with any degree of authority about a Jewish teacher who (allegedly) lived in first-century Palestine. There are a couple of exceptions: of the hundreds -- thousands? -- of mythicists, two (to my knowledge) actually have Ph.D. credentials in relevant fields of study. But even taking these into account, there is not a single mythicist who teaches New Testament or Early Christianity or even Classics at any accredited institution of higher learning in the Western world. And it is no wonder why. These views are so extreme and so unconvincing to 99.99 percent of the real experts that anyone holding them is as likely to get a teaching job in an established department of religion as a six-day creationist is likely to land on in a bona fide department of biology.

Why then is the mythicist movement growing, with advocates so confident of their views and vocal -- even articulate -- in their denunciation of the radical idea that Jesus actually existed? It is, in no small part, because these deniers of Jesus are at the same time denouncers of religion -- a breed of human now very much in vogue. And what better way to malign the religious views of the vast majority of religious persons in the western world, which remains, despite everything, overwhelmingly Christian, than to claim that the historical founder of their religion was in fact the figment of his followers' imagination?

The view, however, founders on its own premises. The reality -- sad or salutary -- is that Jesus was real. And that is the subject of my new book, "Did Jesus Exist?"

It is true that Jesus is not mentioned in any Roman sources of his day. That should hardly count against his existence, however, since these same sources mention scarcely anyone from his time and place. Not even the famous Jewish historian, Josephus, or even more notably, the most powerful and important figure of his day, Pontius Pilate.

It is also true that our best sources about Jesus, the early Gospels, are riddled with problems. These were written decades after Jesus' life by biased authors who are at odds with one another on details up and down the line. But historians can never dismiss sources simply because they are biased. You may not trust Rush Limbaugh's views of Sandra Fluke, but he certainly provides evidence that she exists.

The question is not whether sources are biased but whether biased sources can be used to yield historically reliable information, once their biased chaff is separated from the historical kernel. And historians have devised ways of doing just that.

With respect to Jesus, we have numerous, independent accounts of his life in the sources lying behind the Gospels (and the writings of Paul) -- sources that originated in Jesus' native tongue Aramaic and that can be dated to within just a year or two of his life (before the religion moved to convert pagans in droves). Historical sources like that are is pretty astounding for an ancient figure of any kind. Moreover, we have relatively extensive writings from one first-century author, Paul, who acquired his information within a couple of years of Jesus' life and who actually knew, first hand, Jesus' closest disciple Peter and his own brother James. If Jesus did not exist, you would think his brother would know it.

Moreover, the claim that Jesus was simply made up falters on every ground. The alleged parallels between Jesus and the "pagan" savior-gods in most instances reside in the modern imagination: We do not have accounts of others who were born to virgin mothers and who died as an atonement for sin and then were raised from the dead (despite what the sensationalists claim ad nauseum in their propagandized versions).

Moreover, aspects of the Jesus story simply would not have been invented by anyone wanting to make up a new Savior. The earliest followers of Jesus declared that he was a crucified messiah. But prior to Christianity, there were no Jews at all, of any kind whatsoever, who thought that there would be a future crucified messiah. The messiah was to be a figure of grandeur and power who overthrew the enemy. Anyone who wanted to make up a messiah would make him like that. Why did the Christians not do so? Because they believed specifically that Jesus was the Messiah. And they knew full well that he was crucified. The Christians did not invent Jesus. They invented the idea that the messiah had to be crucified.

One may well choose to resonate with the concerns of our modern and post-modern cultural despisers of established religion (or not). But surely the best way to promote any such agenda is not to deny what virtually every sane historian on the planet -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim, pagan, agnostic, atheist, what have you -- has come to conclude based on a range of compelling historical evidence.

Whether we like it or not, Jesus certainly existed.

Bart Ehrman is the author of 'Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth,' now available from HarperOne.

 
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01:06 PM on 05/15/2012
I am glad to find that you are researching this matter. I personally have no doubts that Yeshua (Lord Jesus) is the Messiah of the Jews and those of us who believe. I attended an Orthodox Shul for two years and four months and learned the Hebrew davening etc. My purpose in doing so was to go back to the roots of Yeshua, since he grew up in a Jewish home, learned Hebrew, went to the shul etc. I was praying to Yeshua the entire time I attended the shul, but I never disclosed that to anyone. Last month I attended two Orthodox Passover (Pesah) seders at the beginning of April. After that I talked to the Rabbi and told him I believe Yeshua is the Messiah of the Jews. He said I have to deny that to be Jewish. I told him I can never do that. I told him the Jews are praying to the same Shehinah (Spirit of God), the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is ONE God. But Jews will never accept this. He said it is idolatry to believe in Yeshua and that God can't die. I personally don't worry about the details. I know Yeshua is true and I find my strength in life by worshipping him.
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08:17 PM on 05/09/2012
Until I see the evidence, it is all a myth, to me.

And even if concrete, provable evidence exists, the fanciful tales associated with him are pure buncombe. People do not rise up through the sky, unassisted, period. In my view, the best thing that ever happened to the New Testament was what Thomas Jefferson did to it.

And the backstory? God, Himself? Can't prove that one, at all, Mr. Ehrman.
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11:01 AM on 05/03/2012
Greetings,

Considering the multi-dimensional nature of words, symbols and the universe at large and even sometimes man, to maintain this false dichotomy of either Jesus exists or Jesus does not exist completely ignores what the contents actually mean.

It may be likened to a professional mechanic who knows how to rebuild gasoline enjoins however has never seen or driven a car.

Metta,

Ananda… http://twelve-limbs.blogspot.com/
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Daniel Lasris
Just here for the TRUTH! And you are WRONG!
12:14 PM on 04/24/2012
I keep looking in the fiction section of the Library and book stores and still can't find any of his books or the other books written by theologists! I think they keep misplacing them!
04:29 AM on 04/24/2012
Moreover, Bart, you are a very intelligent guy, but I pray that the Holy Spirit convicts you to stop damaging people's faith and causing them to stumble. What you are doing and the claims you are making ("They invented the idea that the messiah had to be crucified") constitute a great way to make a lot of noise and a few bucks on this earth, but little else. The intellectual issues you raise about God and Christianity have been addressed countless times over the past 2,000 years; there is nothing new under the sun and your assertions do not bring the conversation any farther than was reached a few hundred years ago. Zero new evidence has come out to damage the truth of Christianity. You know in your head that these things are true. I pray that your heart will submit as well so you may rejoice.
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Daniel Lasris
Just here for the TRUTH! And you are WRONG!
11:35 AM on 04/24/2012
"Zero new evidence has come out to damage the truth of Christianity"

That is because there is not truth to Christianity that can be damaged! There has been tons of evidence to disprove a lot of claims in the bible! Do your research! I will anti-pray for you to gain some reason!
03:10 AM on 04/24/2012
The comments on this post are unbelievable. We have far more evidence that Jesus did and said these things than we do for most other events in ancient history. The only difference is that if Jesus really did and said these things, you would have to change your entire life. Not the case with Julius Caesar's invasion of Gaul for example (for which we only have 1 manuscript from 900 years after the event, for example -- no one seems to doubt that!). At least everyone seems to be on the right track -- they are either offended, frightened, or hate Jesus (most people on this post)...or they declare Him as Lord, just as they did 2,000 years ago.
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Daniel Lasris
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11:37 AM on 04/24/2012
You are completely off the wall! There is no evidence that Jesus did or said anything except for what man wrote in the bible 100 years after his death! Also they never claimed him as Lord, that didn't start until about 200 years ago. You really need to close the book and open your mind and do a little research, as you know nothing of what you are talking about!
12:44 PM on 04/24/2012
This is pointless because you have clearly already made up your mind without examining the evidence, so I'll let you have the last word, but the gospels were written around 70 AD, and Jesus refers to Himself as Lord in the synoptics, which is about 1600 years before when you seem to think that started. The epistles of Paul were written in the 50s AD. This is all within the lifetime of the eyewitnesses, and there certainly was no "silence gap" between when the letters and gospels were published and the resurrection of Christ. No one will ever argue you or anyone into belief. Only God can change your heart.
04:12 PM on 04/23/2012
I haven't read your book, but, I wanted to congratulate you, Bart, on a great article, and I'm sure a good book, I'm not a Christian ~(or the Mythicists in the comments section will probably tell themselves I am!), but, it's great to see an actual scholar attack the issue of Mythicism, still, I'm sure the Mythicsts will just ignore you, and will continue on saying "Jesus didn't exist, Jesus didn't exist", as I'm sure you've seen some of the more "famous/infamous" ones do already (although, does being famous on the internet really count as "famous"?, I guess the notion of "celebrity" really is being watered down).
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09:14 AM on 04/20/2012
Richard Carrier on Did Jesus Exist?

"I was certain this would be a great book, the very best in its category. And I said this, publicly, many times in anticipation of it. It’s actually the worst. It’s almost as bad, in fact, as The Jesus Mysteries by Freke & Gandy (and I did not hyperlink that title because I absolutely do not want you to buy it: it will disease your mind with rampant unsourced falsehoods and completely miseducate you about the ancient world and ancient religion). I was eagerly hoping for a book I could recommend as the best case for historicity (but alas, that title stays with the inadequate but nevertheless competent, if not always correct, treatment in Van Voorst’s Jesus Outside the New Testament and Theissen & Merz’s The Historical Jesus). I was also expecting it to be a good go-to rebuttal to the plethora of bad mythicism out there, so I could just refer people to this book every time they ask me why (for example) Freke & Gandy suck[...]"

More, much, much more, here: http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/1026
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10:40 PM on 04/18/2012
Harry Potter was inconveniently a tosspot, therefore he existed.

Paul did NOT write about Jesus and knew nothing about him. The brother (James) was was also the name of the brother of Jesus of Damneus (the High Priest that Josephus writes about). Strange coincidence? or post-added?

Attis was ALSO a "crucified messiah", as was Horus and Mithras.

Bart Erhman is NOT a historian but achieved his PhD in THEOLOGY.
02:29 AM on 04/19/2012
1.Harry Potter does not claim to be eyewitness testimony to historical events, the author's stated intent is that it is a fictional work, and it has always been considered by society as a fictional work. While it's a cute comparison (about time for me to re-read the series), Jesus and Harry are completely different scenarios in terms of historicity.

2. Oh, of course he did. He may not have known Jesus personally, but he certainly knew of Jesus as an historical person who was descended from David, had siblings, had human friends and followers, broke bread with said friends, and was executed - in addition to any theistic ideas he had as well. As for James, there's no reason to think that the two Jesus' there in Josephus (the only place a son of Damneus is mentioned) must be the same person. Jesus (technically Yeshua,)was the most common name in first century Palestine.

3. No, no, and no. If you can quote a specific pre-Christian source, or a citation about such a source (preferably one I can read in full), I'll reconsider. Even then, you'd still need to demonstrative a causal link between the two.

4. True, and to a certain extent, a valid criticism. However, theological/biblical studies overlaps a lot with historical study because of the nature of textual criticism in particular, and there's also the simple fact that Ehrman is but one voice amongst many others with degrees in history who agree with him.
07:27 PM on 04/15/2012
so... evidence of jesus, is in the one and only book about Jesus. How convenient.
04:53 PM on 04/10/2012
You can see a whole list of writers who should have, or could have, mentioned Jesus, here :

http://www.atheistguidebook.org/kapyong/nomention.html

There is a couple of DOZEN writers who could have mentioned Jesus, but did NOT do so. It's easy to explain away ONE writer, but when DOZEN of writers from that period failed to do so, it brings Jesus' existence into doubt.

BTW -
I wrote that essay under the name of Kapyong.
'Kapyong' is a pseudonym for ME, Toby J Whiteman.

Toby
01:27 AM on 04/11/2012
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Apart from the the transience and randomness of the historical record, specifically the fact that what we have access to now is but a fraction of what was written then (even the key works of church fathers like Papias only survive today in second hand quotations), there are a host of political and social reasons that someone might or might not record an event. Specifically in the case of Roman and Jewish historians, it doesn't take a lot of thinking to imagine why they might downplay or ignore altogether in their official histories the existence of a cult that followed a crucified man that was particularly heretical with respect to Jewish and Hellenistic theology and moral practice.

In your specific case of Philo, given we know remarkably little about Philo's own life (dating where exactly he was at any given time is basically impossible), it's hard to take his lack of attestation at all seriously as a threat to the existence of Jesus. His seeming obliviousness to Christianity in general is further evidence for this - no one disputes the existence of Christianity as a movement in the first century regardless of origins, and yet Philo makes no mention of it either. Either he was oblivious or for whatever he reason he did not commentate/record it himself. An argument from silence is just that - silence.
06:55 AM on 04/12/2012
Ninja Man wrote:
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. "

It most certainly CAN be, especially if :
* evidence is expected
* there are many examples of the lack

Which is exactly the case with Jesus -
* we would expect someone would write about him
* there are MANY examples of lack

Consider the claim that a UFO landed briefly on the white house lawn.

If we found NO mention of it in the news, no eye-witnesses, no physical evidence etc.
then the lack of evidence WOULD mean evidence of lack.

The MANY writers, including contemporaries DOES aregue strongly against a historical Jesus.

Toby
04:47 PM on 04/10/2012
Another early write who could have mentioned Jesus was Plutarch.

Plutarch of Chaeronea wrote many works on history and philosophy in Rome and Boetia in about 90-120 CE.

Plutarch wrote about influential Roman figures, including some contemporary to Jesus,
Plutarch wrote on Oracles (prophesies),
Plutarch wrote on moral issues,
Plutarch wrote on spiritual and religious issues.

If Plutarch knew of Jesus or the Gospel events, it is highly likely he would have mentioned them.

Toby
04:46 PM on 04/10/2012
Another writer who could have mentioned Jesus was Seneca :

Lucius Annaeus Seneca wrote many philosophic and satirical books and letters (and tragedies) in Rome.

Seneca wrote a great deal on many subjects and mentioned many people. He was a Stoic, a school of thought considered sympathetic to Christian teachings.

In fact,
early Christians seemed to have expected him to discuss Christianity - they FORGED letters between him and Paul.

How else to explain these forgeries, except as Christian responses to a surprising VOID in Seneca's writings?

More evidence that Jese did not exist.

Toby
02:56 PM on 04/06/2012
Actually there is a Masters of Judaic studies where you learn all of this, most of it is in Aramaic, and the classical languages, and it's at Brandeis, the other places are well Israel. I still cannot find historical evidence to prove the existence of the Christian version of Jesus. If someone can find actual historical claims then by all means cite and provide them.
09:03 AM on 04/03/2012
Listening to this joker on NPR. It is amazing how he really has no evidence besides just waving his hands and saying "because I so". His assumptions are gigantic.

I mean, using Paul as a historical record? Paul invented Christianity. Of course he is making stuff up as he goes.

It really is amazing. Guys can just make up stuff. Write a book. And declare it Gospel. Happened back then. Happening even now.
12:45 AM on 04/04/2012
Paul did invent , along with the Council of Nicea, the Christianity that we know today but there was a real figure, Jesus, on whom the religion was based....Look up "The Song of Roland" on Wikipedia to understand the evolution of mythology...
02:46 AM on 04/13/2012
Out of interest, why do you propose they would have made this stuff up?
05:19 AM on 04/13/2012
"Out of interest, why do you propose they would have made this stuff up? "

Why were the Greek myths made up?
Why were the Egyptian myths made up?
Why was the Bhagavad Gita made up?
Why was the Book of Mormom made up ?

Seriously - history is full of myths that people believed.

Toby